W163 ML320 rear shocks & spring Bilstein upgrade

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Offgrid Nomads

Offgrid Nomads

2 жыл бұрын

ML320 W163 - Upgraded the rear shocks and springs of the ML320 W163. New shocks: Bilstein heavy duty BE5-2985
New Springs: Bilstein heavy duty 36-202126
With all the added camping gear, rear bumper, spare tire etc...car is heavy. Replacing the rear shock and spring made sense. In this video I show you how I replaced the pair in the back.
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@johnh2937
@johnh2937 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to show this.
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
You welcome John
@geraldabrahamian323
@geraldabrahamian323 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing and providing detailed information. Appreciate your tips and techniques. working to upgrade my ML in the next few weeks. Also love this first gen ML as they are very classy.
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
Parev Gérald. Thank you for the kind words. Nareg my friend who is the owner, will make more of these soon. Best.
@hipolitoa.gonzalezm.4633
@hipolitoa.gonzalezm.4633 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that video. I did one month ago more or less the same, with Profender shock absorbers. I thought my car wasn't going to lift so much but now is so high. I hope the joins and the transmission will handle it well. Thank youuuuuu
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
What specific parts he used with Profender?
@trainingrevolution2031
@trainingrevolution2031 4 ай бұрын
Very helpful tips here, thank you!
@johnh2937
@johnh2937 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing. I'll be referring to this in the future.
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John. We will be adding more ML mods and to's as well.
@taffy7hfa897
@taffy7hfa897 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for uploading.
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@matyyyes1s899
@matyyyes1s899 6 күн бұрын
Hi, thank you for nice details. Well done buddy
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 5 күн бұрын
You are welcome and thank you for subscribing.
@luisangelito4232
@luisangelito4232 Жыл бұрын
GRAN VIDEO! Great! Thanks!!!
@peterstanczak3130
@peterstanczak3130 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Thank you for sharing. I am in the process of lifting my ML500! Building front bumper will be next. I really like your custom bumpers especially the front. Can you upload some photos or videos about bumpers built? Big thank you, and keep up the good work :)
@caccialou2011
@caccialou2011 2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain the difference between the Bilsteins 3 painted square and the 4 painted squares? I did my 2003 ML350 2 years ago using Bilstein 3 painted squares and it seems fine. Not easy getting the shocks disconnected on top on a rusty NY vehicle. After doing brake lines,fuel lines and 4 shocks 2 years ago it hasn't cost a dime. Pretty good for a 173,000 mile outside kept NY winter driven vehicle. I am 64 years old this vehicle has been my best vehicle so far and fixing it myself without a lift is possible for most things. The things I had to replace were not too difficult. A not too expensive scanner will point you in the right direction for most things. Stable at 100mph and better off road than given credit for,and fixable when it does break is what makes it a good machine. Nice informative video.
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
The 4 square springs are just a tad stronger than the 3 square springs. I've noticed the ride height has settled a bit since doing this project so the search is for an even stronger spring without killing the comfort.
@randypayawal9642
@randypayawal9642 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Can you provide a link for the strut spacer?
@jurassicperth6764
@jurassicperth6764 2 жыл бұрын
🦖 Nice 👌🏻
@benlav7151
@benlav7151 27 күн бұрын
I pull a trailer behind my ML400 I am already 1´´ lower in the back then the front with the empty car. Time to replace the rear suspension, but not an easy task. I am looking for something which can hold much more weight, had a look at adjustable ones with pneumatics, but lots of people say they are not very reliable, lots of problems, on top of that I will load more then usual. There are several kits with pneumatic adjustment, but none works for Mercedes ML´s. If some of you figured something let me know.
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 26 күн бұрын
Hi Ben, please reach out to sales@hst.global with your inquiry. He can assist you. Thanks
@criticaljim1
@criticaljim1 2 жыл бұрын
I worked with plain wrenches on my ML430 suspension before, but you should really add ratcheting wrenches to your christmas list, it's a day and night difference.
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
We do :)
@cyronader
@cyronader 2 жыл бұрын
Did you compress the coils yourself or had a shop do it? I just got a pair of rear B6s and I need to swap the coils from the original struts. I was told that these coils are very difficult and dangerous to compress with the standard hand crank compressors. Also I noticed that the B6s have what looks like 1/16 inch thick ring where the bottom spring plate sits on. Does that thin ring really support all that coil force? Seems crazy to me as the original struts has the bottom spring plate welded to the strut assembly. Can you confirm this?
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
For safety I used a shop spring compressor, not the $35 DIY units. They are not difficult to compress but you need the right tool. The ring is fine. It'll stay in place. In the event that something happens, the plate will go down a couple inches to the bottom of the shock where there are weld marks that will hold it in place.
@SenorReso
@SenorReso 11 күн бұрын
How'd that alignment go? I had a crazy amount of negative camber with 30mm spacer from Tema and OEM replacement struts. I'm not sure if they preloaded the upper control arms before setting down. I'm assuming this can happen in the front too after torsion bar lift?
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 11 күн бұрын
@@SenorReso Yes it can happen on the fronts too. Currently have -1.5 camber on the fronts. One of these days may want to elongate the adjustment slots to get a bit less negative camber.
@saulduranrueda3127
@saulduranrueda3127 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT VIDEOS, WHAT IS THE MEASUREMENT, BRAND OR CODE OF REAR SHOCK ABSORBERS THAT MAKES THE MERCEDES BENZ ML 320?
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 Жыл бұрын
Hi Saul, it's Bilstein 24-029858
@mr22guy
@mr22guy 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't show tightening the nut on the bottom of the strut (the ball joint). What's the torque on that?
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
It's 65 lb-ft but hard to get a torque wrench there so you may need to do it by feel. Get it tight by hand with a large spanner and it should be fine.
@RichardVac
@RichardVac 2 жыл бұрын
How does it ride? Any issues with vibration? I would like to add 1 1/2 " SPACERS TOO, please advise if I should with out any other modifications, will this ware more the drive shafts? Please advice thx
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
Ride is excellent. We have no vibrations and my expedition buddies using mostly Jeeps are always envious of how comfortable the ride is whenver they use this car. The axle shafts are fine because they are not at steep angles. Two years of hard use and still zero problems. That's a testament to how strong the car is actually.
@RichardVac
@RichardVac 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! For the info, I already installed them with new struts, the ride much improved.. I tried to replace them my self, but the nuts on top ware rusted out and had to take it to a shop, they charged me $440 to replace them, the mechanic had to cut them out with fire
@MyMathex
@MyMathex 2 ай бұрын
where do I get the 3 mark springs or whats the part number for the springs?
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 26 күн бұрын
Hi MyMathex, please email sales@hst.global. They can help you with the part number.
@dcomputers
@dcomputers 2 жыл бұрын
How's the bilstein b6 yellow shocks doing compare to the regular bilstein b4 ? Any better damping?
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
Never had B4 but my guess is given all the extra weight it's probably good to use it.
@moed7213
@moed7213 2 жыл бұрын
@@offgridnomads377 does it make the ride rough using these yellow shocks?
@Todor12345
@Todor12345 2 ай бұрын
I also wonder that because i put brand new sachs shocks but ride is still soft and bounces on the back, on the front i put hummer kyb monomax and great but rear is soft
@davitmnatsakanyan1271
@davitmnatsakanyan1271 2 жыл бұрын
cost?
@RichardVac
@RichardVac 2 жыл бұрын
How did you take off the upper nuts, with so little space
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
We used this tool www.harborfreight.com/metric-flex-head-combination-ratcheting-wrench-set-5-pc-60592.html
@RichardVac
@RichardVac 2 жыл бұрын
@@offgridnomads377 Thank you, I already have the 1.5 " spacers but I was afraid to try to get the nuts out of the top with so little space to work with
@suprbikfixr
@suprbikfixr 2 жыл бұрын
Do you still have the 3 mark springs? I just bought B6’s for my 320, looking for springs
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
Yes we have, thanks
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
Please DM me if ur interested. Thanks.
@suprbikfixr
@suprbikfixr 2 жыл бұрын
@@offgridnomads377 sent you a DM on IG thanks!
@boyontheshore6684
@boyontheshore6684 Ай бұрын
I want to do exactly what you did to you ml500 to mine but I can find those shocks can you help
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the inquiry. Please contact sales@hst.global they will help you with getting the parts and kits for the ML project.
@johnh2937
@johnh2937 2 жыл бұрын
Probably want to preload the suspension to near normal stance before torquing the upper control arm bushings.
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever you lift this car it’s important to bring out the upper arms all the way to the end of the adjustment slots. Depending on the height, you’ll end up with slightly positive camber or just about right. The car needs to get aligned anyway. If you load the car and then torque the nuts, you’ll push the arms into the other end of the adjustment slot and end up with something like 5 degrees of negative camber. This is one of the reasons that a lot of so-called techs never were able to align this car properly. The important place to preload is on the lower bushings.
@RichardVac
@RichardVac 10 күн бұрын
What tire size are you using?
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 10 күн бұрын
@@RichardVac hello Richard these are 285 70 17
@hanglhof
@hanglhof 2 жыл бұрын
OEM shocks in the front?
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
No they are custom Bilstein 5165 remote reservoir shocks.
@CLVannoy
@CLVannoy Жыл бұрын
@@offgridnomads377anything special to make them work?
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 Жыл бұрын
@@CLVannoy no just installation.
@CLVannoy
@CLVannoy Жыл бұрын
@@offgridnomads377 can you let us know where you got them from please mine are for a f150 and the stem is bigger then the stock shocks so none of the metal washers or rubbers for the top will switch over I’ll have to drill them all out to size to make the one I got work thank you in advance !!
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 Жыл бұрын
@@CLVannoy I have access to washers and buffers which made it work. Possible your mechanic if he has any parts laying around will make it work too. It was kinda "frankensteining" but no drilling cutting. Just whatever I had in my garage which was a direct fit. But I heard Bilstein also sells individual pieces which may work for you. If u give their CS a call. But to be honest, you can find pieces which may work for you.
@bymbikbymbik2885
@bymbikbymbik2885 2 жыл бұрын
Привет из России, 285/70/17 не трут передние арки?
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
Немного делает на передних
@bymbikbymbik2885
@bymbikbymbik2885 2 жыл бұрын
@@offgridnomads377 thanks you
@dcomputers
@dcomputers 2 жыл бұрын
Those are amg calipers?
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are.
@dcomputers
@dcomputers 2 жыл бұрын
@@offgridnomads377 Any improvement in the braking with those? Was it a direct fit ? I know the front require the bigger knuckle
@offgridnomads377
@offgridnomads377 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcomputers Replaced them with AMG knuckles. Needed both front and rear. Brakes are stronger but then again the car weighs a lot more.
@dcomputers
@dcomputers 2 жыл бұрын
@@offgridnomads377 you also need the bigger rims. I was looking to upgrade to the amg calipers but I'm still thinking.
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