Wahoo KICKR BIKE: Virtual Groupset and Gearing Setup // Part III

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Shane Miller - GPLama

Shane Miller - GPLama

4 жыл бұрын

Wahoo KICKR BIKE Virtual Groupset and Gearing Setup // Part III. Wahoo call this 'Reality Shift' where we can choose from Shimano, SRAM, or Campagnolo shifting functionality. I cover all the details along with gear ratio options for this Smart Bike.
Wahoo KICKR BIKE - The latest release from Wahoo at Eurobike 2019. Based on years of smart trainer experience this looks to be the most fully featured Smart Bike released to date.
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Wahoo KICKR BIKE Details:
Power Accuracy: +/-1% (No calibration!)
Power: Up to 2200W
Grade Simulation: +20% / -15%
Noise: Virtually Silent (Belt driven)
Groupset Function: Shimano Di2, SRAM, Campagnolo. (Customisable)
Gearing Simulation: Fully Customisable.
Status Indicator: Grade. Gearing. Connectivity.
Crank Length: 165, 167.5, 170, 172.5, 175
Adjustability/Fit: Quick Adjustment. Full Setup Guide. Made for multi riders.
Customization: Saddle, Bars, Stem, Pedals. (TT/Tri bars)
Connectivity: ANT+ / ANT+ FE-C / Bluetooth Smart
Data: Speed, Power, Cadence, (+Trainer Control).
Downhill Simulation
Braking
Shipping: October in US. Europe/etc early 2020
Price: US$3499
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@spfunnell
@spfunnell 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that front / back brake levers were different depending on country. Every day's a learning day.
@sworks7124
@sworks7124 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video with great graphics!
@anthonybryan7315
@anthonybryan7315 4 жыл бұрын
Just pre ordered mine for early 2020. Expensive but less chance of being stolen.
@chrisholton1381
@chrisholton1381 4 жыл бұрын
Always end up having to come back to thumbs up the videos, you should use Ray's approach and remind forgetful viewers like me 😀
@ChristopherHague
@ChristopherHague 4 жыл бұрын
I think I’ll start saving my money for gen 2
@F1TZGER4LD
@F1TZGER4LD 2 жыл бұрын
Has gen 2 arrived yet do you know?
@philchapman6021
@philchapman6021 4 жыл бұрын
What would be really helpful is for the bike to adjust position automatically for different individuals in your household (or gym). You would tap on the app your name with prior inputted measurements and the bike would adjust position (saddle height, fore and aft, bike length and handlebar height) using small inbuilt motors. Also the ability to weight the rider would be helpful for Zwift and monitoring sweat loss during a session. For $4K there needs to be much more to entice the market than the same old stuff you get for just the usual (much cheaper) smart trainer.
@JohanTeddy
@JohanTeddy 4 жыл бұрын
I hope wahoo will release virtual groupset that we can use on IRL bike frame (for indoor use of course)
@jasonahlstrom769
@jasonahlstrom769 4 жыл бұрын
Will this have the same problem as the kickr climb when it comes to trainer difficulty (that is, in Zwift if trainer difficulty is set to 50%, the climb will halve the gradient unless you futz with the wheelbase length)? If so, I'd probably keep trainer difficulty at 100% and end up with a virtual triple front chainring. Granny gears for me!
@lehtjug
@lehtjug 4 жыл бұрын
I just think that Kickrbike is also like a fit bike for home, if you can afford that of course. Easy to make different kind of adjustment experiments and compare those measurements to your current bike if it need any changes.
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 4 жыл бұрын
And all this for group ride or weekend spin. Good way to overspend you money for sure.
@thankyoujesus2836
@thankyoujesus2836 4 жыл бұрын
Jan Kowalski good for people in cold or rainy climate
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 4 жыл бұрын
@@thankyoujesus2836 Cycle in the rain, cold or wind is a part of cycling itsel... Oh no wait... lol. That`s make sense. Maybe next time UCI will do Tours on this when weather will be shitty. Seriously it`s a one from the most funny arguments to date.
@mattcostall5321
@mattcostall5321 4 жыл бұрын
Shane, is the ride-through coming? Interested to know your feelings compared to your own steed on a session
@129cjc
@129cjc 3 жыл бұрын
In you video you talk about the need for the wahoo app to be on so the weight is correct and the ride feel is accurate to an individuals weight. My zwift would not connect when I had the app open. Does it need to be open or does weight just need to be up to date? Also my wife and I will share the bike, how will it know its her on the bike and not me?
@leoaudette8210
@leoaudette8210 2 жыл бұрын
hi Shane just wondering .. i just got my kickr bike back in Nov and i am wondering i have it setup for the shimano Di gearing setup .. all standard .. i only use the right hand to switch gears and when im going up i get to 1-8 then it goes to 2-6 and i have to bring it back to 2-4 quickly any ideas why it does this or is this just normal? the way im riding? as i have never seen my gearing go 1-11 only 1-8 then it upshifts to 2-6 once i get to 1-8 ... thanks so much
@PaulMi11s
@PaulMi11s 3 жыл бұрын
I have had nothing but issues with Wahoo Fitness App for setting up the Kickr Bike Cassette... its so frustrating that the app never remembers what the setting you defined previously, is, so each time you log in you have to 'remember' what you set it at before, So a small tween to the cassette means you have to remember how you defined the teeth before.
@F1TZGER4LD
@F1TZGER4LD 2 жыл бұрын
Other than having experience on a standard spin bike with no gears and only a MTB with 9 gears, I’ve never had a go of a road bike, so the gearing seems alien to me. Do you have any videos for new comers like me and what the numbers for each gearing system means? I’m looking at getting a wahoo kickr bike myself so any info would be appreciated, thanks in advance for any replies.
@craigamey7843
@craigamey7843 3 жыл бұрын
It's not campag-nolo it's campan-yolo. Also when configuring Di2 is there any option for S1/S2, it's going to be confusing if everything is identical except for those modes (auto shifting rear when big ring changes).
@leedorney
@leedorney 4 жыл бұрын
Id soo love this trainer-bike ;)
@robin_stevens
@robin_stevens 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use the unassigned buttons to control a head unit, just like with a real di2 system?
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
No.
@hellopsp180
@hellopsp180 4 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting concept. I would like to try one but I wouldn't ever buy one. It costs too much. If there was a way to borrow it for a few days to try or rent it out type of thing I would choose that
@thankyoujesus2836
@thankyoujesus2836 4 жыл бұрын
Ian R and then you like and then what?
@alanmayes6822
@alanmayes6822 8 ай бұрын
New question. Is anyone having issues updating firmware from the app. It says this is needed to enable wifi. Thanks all
@Kref3
@Kref3 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Nice video. If I understand this correctly you cannot modify the DI2 buttons, right? Because I don’t like the standard setting of DI2 I have reprogrammed mine: Rear buttons control cogs - left easier (bigger), right harder (smaller) Front buttons control chainring and again left easier (smaller), right harder (bigger) Reason for this is that I don’t need the chainring often when in the drops but mostly the cogs only an the rest buttons are easier to reach. Would be nice if this trainer could be set up the same.
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
No Di2 reprogramming at this point. Just defaults.
@alanmayes6822
@alanmayes6822 8 ай бұрын
Hi, once chosen groupset and ratios on the app how do you get back into setting to change them. Tried looking around and it's not obvious how to do it? Do you have to delete app ans set up again? Thanks :)
@alanmayes6822
@alanmayes6822 8 ай бұрын
Replying to own comment, found it by selecting sensors and the bike. It took me back to same set up screen. Now not spinning out at 24mph!
@johnburgess506
@johnburgess506 4 жыл бұрын
All my training is in the TT position will there be a way to change gears from the aero bars ?
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
Optional addition soon
@drmohitb
@drmohitb 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Shane 😎. Which is your most preferred gear set for steep climbs like alpe du zwift radio towers
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
34 or 36 on the front and a 28 or 30 on the back.
@firstcardioperformance9621
@firstcardioperformance9621 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if you could use the Kickr bike for VO2 Max Testing?
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Sure. It gives accurate power to do this with.
@129cjc
@129cjc 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to configure one of the buttons to do power up? sorry if this is a repeat question
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
Not yet.....
@jma3686
@jma3686 4 жыл бұрын
Tanks you for your vdo. I'm looking for a such bike and it's very useful to see what we can do with it. Is it possible to set up several bike, like b1 b2 b3 with different cassette mapping?
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
There's no bike profiles, no.
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 4 жыл бұрын
You gonna pay extra 1k for this in Gen II xD
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
Remember to hit subscribe here to know when any new features and firmwares are released.
@Chruchfeeld
@Chruchfeeld 3 жыл бұрын
I have freezes of the shifter, you know anything about this? Whaoo does nit help ne, support ignores my request
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
You’ll need to contact Wahoo Support. This is their product they provide support for.
@stephanestaelens5914
@stephanestaelens5914 4 жыл бұрын
is there a possibility to do a set up with oval shane rings?
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
I don't believe so.
@karlwebb8914
@karlwebb8914 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great videos on the KickR bike which I have just bought. Being a newbie to gear ranges etc coming to road bikes off Mountain biking! What does the ranges do after I select the front and back cogs sizes and number of gears in the cassette please? Looking forward to hearing back from you best wishes Karl in Oz .
@gplama
@gplama Жыл бұрын
Ranges... same as gearing on a bike. Bigger cogs on the back for hills. Bigger rings on the front for flat/not hills. :)
@karlwebb8914
@karlwebb8914 Жыл бұрын
@@gplama thanks again Shane does that mean the range selection is what gears are on the bike ? I.E. 50/34 being the front cogs? Cheers Karl
@gplama
@gplama Жыл бұрын
Correct. 50/34 are options for the two front chainrings.
@karlwebb8914
@karlwebb8914 Жыл бұрын
@@gplama great thanks then I select 12 gears for the cassette and it's the next option that I don't understand where it gives you a range ? Sorry to be a pain Shane with asking so many questions! I owe you a few beers 🍺 👍😊
@gplama
@gplama Жыл бұрын
@@karlwebb8914 Rear cassette is the same as MTB/Road/etc. 11t is hard to push, 30 (or even a 50) on the back is easy to spin up hills. If you have 12 gears between 11-50 there's bigger jumps between each gear.
@jonathanzappala
@jonathanzappala 4 жыл бұрын
70-10 😳
@ridewithridewith8499
@ridewithridewith8499 4 жыл бұрын
How about Di2 synchro shift, can you configure that too?
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
Mentioned near the end.
@ridewithridewith8499
@ridewithridewith8499 4 жыл бұрын
@@gplama great way to check who watched the video till the end! I guess I failed ;)
@sofrontudor7381
@sofrontudor7381 Жыл бұрын
Hello - any information if gearing information will be sent via Ant+ to the head units? 🙂
@gplama
@gplama Жыл бұрын
No
@sofrontudor7381
@sofrontudor7381 Жыл бұрын
@@gplama but why, but why? :((
@gplama
@gplama Жыл бұрын
@@sofrontudor7381 Because no smart bike implements any kind of ANT+ Shifting standard. There's no reason they shouldn't have standardised it for better integration for all software platforms... but that'd take more work and more time... two things that prevent getting products on the market fast and cheap.
@asketienne8684
@asketienne8684 4 жыл бұрын
getting ahead of DCRM since his is still stuck at custom
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
He picked it up today! See his Strava and Facebook! It's freeeeeeeee!
@asketienne8684
@asketienne8684 4 жыл бұрын
@@gplama free the kickr bike!
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed 4 жыл бұрын
etienne beney yea if you buy it from facebook its free
@asketienne8684
@asketienne8684 4 жыл бұрын
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed GPL used the word free as of not stuck at custom
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed 4 жыл бұрын
etienne beney ha ha ha 😂🤣😆😋
@inferno4001
@inferno4001 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad for the price tag. I'm still saving for a new direct drive trainer. As most of us, you also need to upkeep all your bikes, and maybe its just me, but it's getting pretty hard to explain at home where all the money has gone....
@Ekzt21
@Ekzt21 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry what is the full name of the app, wahoo fitness?
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
Yes au.wahoofitness.com/fitness-apps
@Fidasaind
@Fidasaind 4 жыл бұрын
Have to use the app if multiple users share the bike? But what if I want to use my wife's profile. 5'2"... petite build. I can only imagine how easy hills feel for her. One of these days I want to use her Zwift account and ruin her AdZ PR. For me my PR is 82 minutes which was about 280w (probably would struggle to average 250-260 today) aka 2.5 w/kg. At closer to 4.3 w/kg (at wife's weight and my best average power) I bet I could get a time she could never hit :p Even if I were having an off day and say was closer to 4.0 on her account... And of course not tell her I did that.
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
The requirement to set the Kickr BIKE user weight won't change your in-game speed which is related to your w/kg (watts from the bike, kgs from your Zwift profile).
@Fidasaind
@Fidasaind 4 жыл бұрын
@@gplama Sorry about the wording. 2 separate things. 1 is I'd love to feel what climbing feels like to her. The other is while I'm at it. I should ruin her PR on some climbs. For revenge for all the times she drags me up South Mountain or Bartlett near Phoenix
@MD0886
@MD0886 4 жыл бұрын
what's with thumbs down?!
@njrcdan
@njrcdan 4 жыл бұрын
Eventually smart bikes and trainers will be able to calculate your weight just by getting on the bike. Only way to truly level the playing field and get rid of the cheaters.
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
Until they put their hand on a desk beside them, or fudge the zero setpoint of the scale. This isn't an easy one to solve.
@DeanJohnson67
@DeanJohnson67 4 жыл бұрын
@@gplama true! though adding the sensor would keep it more accurate.. I think adding adding virtual wind to rides both head and tail would also be cool since in the real world those can be major factors...even if it was as basic as a random sudden 1 mile straight stretch where the wind was 20 mph in your face along with all others in the same section
@jimhansen5395
@jimhansen5395 4 жыл бұрын
It's no different than any other video game. As long as the hardware and client software is in the hands of the gamer, people will find a way to cheat.
@sportme6734
@sportme6734 4 жыл бұрын
secord
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
You'll get first if you smash that subscribe button! :)
@johnora3857
@johnora3857 4 жыл бұрын
Buy a wahoo kickr, a canyon al roadbike with 105 and you got the same functionality AND still got a bike you can use as secondary bike. And 500 quid in your hand. Something is wrong with the pricing i think. Where is the REAL benefit??
@michwoz
@michwoz 4 жыл бұрын
You won't get same functionality like that. Not even close.
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed 4 жыл бұрын
A regular trainer goes up to around $2,000 we're talkin about a good smart trainer a regular trainer goes up to around two thousand dollars were talking about a good smart trainer. let's see here you take your 2 , 3 ,4 $5,000 dollar road bike and put on the trainer. After a few months your screws and everything metal starts to rust. Your bottom bracket starts to make noise. For people that take cycling as a sport would rather not abused their bikes and get one of these Wahoo bikes to use indoors. Most of us have two to three bikes anyway why not get the Wahoo bike as an indoor training bike. In the long run you will be saving money not abusing your more expensive bikes. I mentioned before that trainers can go up to $2,000+ this wahoo bike comes with a lot more than any trainer. This bike cannot only be used as a personal training bike many people who fit and train others can use this bike for there job to fit others. Its very good and the price in reasonable.
@sworks7124
@sworks7124 4 жыл бұрын
Add up the cost of your Kickr or Neo, add in Kickr climb add in cost of a rocker plate, add in a cheap aluminum bike. Now if you have multiple riders in the house x that by that amount. I have a new Sworks Venge that I will not put on a trainer for long periods of time for indoor training just because the data is not out there on how these trainers stress the stays out. For what the Kickr bike does I would say it is fair pricing as long as the unit is built with quality to last. I also like that it is like a retul fit bike so I can experiment with geometries of different bikes before I buy bikes of different brands.
@jimhansen5395
@jimhansen5395 4 жыл бұрын
What if there are three people in your house that all ride different size bikes?
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Vu ypu can even see what size cranck arms you like. The longer the arm the better for grinders the shorter the arm the better for spinners. I think its great if i had the room i would get one. I might just make room 😂
@tomwieselblad1352
@tomwieselblad1352 4 жыл бұрын
It's all good, but you sure are milking the maximum out of this.
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
Of course I am. It pays the bills. The alternate is one 40 minute video nobody will watch and resorting to clickbait video crap. These videos are stand-alone resource videos that people can refer to now and in the future.
@gplama
@gplama 4 жыл бұрын
And feel free to subscribe to support the channel.
@jimhansen5395
@jimhansen5395 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't this the exact kind of content people come to this channel for? I mean, it's exactly what Shane does. Anyone seriously considering spending this much money on a trainer bike will appreciate every nugget of detail he gives.
@tomwieselblad1352
@tomwieselblad1352 4 жыл бұрын
As I said, it's all good, I just want you to get to the experience of it! 😊 Thanks for your effort.
@JanKowalski-pe9lo
@JanKowalski-pe9lo 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimhansen5395 they shouldnt as they are over wealthy or just dumb enough to spend such a money for toy
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