Yet another well shot, well produced, informative review, Shane. Great to see the different camera angles and overlays. It really adds to the overall experience. Keep it up!

Shane, you are a legend. The screen shot at 12:46 allowed me to solve the lack of comms from Zwift to the climb. I was using BT but not getting a response. Tried ANT as shown (looked for the FE value) and I'm all hooked up. Your videos have been instrumental in getting me up and cycling with my wahooligan set up. Cheers

Great Video, really helped! BTW. I just set up my Climber with my KICKR. The rise and drop of the Climber in Zwift Watopia was spot on. I did not feel a lag.

at 13:44 we see the MAMIL in his artificial environment react to the new toy with a spontaneous, genuine, happy-smile going on :D ...now I can't wait 'til mine gets delivered to my LBS!!! I'll be up there before they can hang up the phone when they call to tell me it's arrived. Great vid, Shane; you're always perfectly thorough. Thanks!

Great video/explanation again Lama. I just got this and really like it. The benefit I'm getting is the diverse set of body position that helps for longer hours of indoor riding.

Just got mine. Takes a little getting used to but it really makes Zwift even more immersive. Great video as always.

Nice review (as always). Thinking about getting one as loving my Kickr trainer and Zwift but keen to add an extra element of realism. Love it how the instruction manual is quickly discarded during the unboxing!

Just wanted to say thank you for making this video, it was very helpful

Excellent review Shane. Same can not be said of the music choice :) That lag needs to be looked at before release but it's still pretty cool.

You look so happy when you go riding :) real love there

Woah. Look at that awesome bar tape! Excellent review!

Digging your cycling room. Looks so clean. Unfortunately I am not going to have a room that looks like that for a long while. Great review. I think you are getting better and better, but I know it takes a lot of time in post edit to mash all of the videos/audios together. Fantastic job. I am still learning the ropes in the KZfaq world.

Awesome review. My dream cave just added another component!

Thorough stuff Shane, really good insight into set up and how the unit performs. Yet to work my way up to even a Kickr yet, though it's firmly on the wish list (probably a Wahoo refurbished gen 1 mind), but perhaps one day I too can play with up and down buttons while riding my bike...

Comprehensive Lama review, most excellent.

Cheers Shane great work as usual

Excellent review. Not sure I’m going to invest in that though. For those curious how to convert angle to gradient: Gradient [%] = Tan(Angle[°]) × 100

Great video and awesome aero tuck!

Excellent as ever, like popping round a mates house to see his latest toy, then trying to work out if you can justify one yourself!! Now where's my piggy bank??

great video as usual Shane!

Thanks Shane invaluable info as always , cheers.

I am really looking forward the setup + rocket plate. cannot wait it! Great review. Fortunately, I am using neo right now. Kickr climb is useless for me currently lol.

Another great video Shane. Would like to see you re-ride your TT course map you made a video of a few months ago, and see how it compares with the Climb installed.

Excellent review.

Man for that money I think I will get a better riding experience with a rocker plate.... top content as usual Shane! 👍🏼🍻

Nice one mate, very useful and detailed

I can see this being a good thing for comfort on the saddle as well and moving your contact points around throughout a ride.

Looks like fun! Thank's for the review :-)

I hope tacx guys get one built soon.and compatible with the tacx neo

Your full motion teevee mounts need to move with this 😂

Looking forward to other brands (Saris) taking this idea and making climb devices for their respective smart trainers.

Good work mate. Cheers 👍👍

Great video!

Well done Video!! I am looking forward to the rocker and Climb together.. I think if the rockers become more popular, hopefully The smart trainer manufactures will get smart and build there own rockers..

Thanks Motti Pikelny! We’re lucky to have a few old bikes to put on a trainer. They have 10-speed drive trains, have short cage derailleurs, and small cassettes. I wanted to replicate 15%+ grades without slipping to

My kid just said, “that Lama, always opening presents from his grandma” :-)

15 years ago when Computrainer was the hot setup we raced on NetAthlon. (Think 8 bit avatars!) Someone had invented & patented a climbing device that worked with the CTrainer. It was $800 at the time.......I almost bought it.....

2:05 probably the best part of the review.

As always, great video review. Any info on using it with Tacx NEO .

Hi Shane, thanks for the video, they're always great. I'm looking at the product at the moment. Have you had any information on the belt failing on the unit? Seems to be a bit out there across the net about it. Thanks in advance, and thanks for all the great info you put out.

Now I won't wear out my front tire after a full winter on the trainer.

Good on!

I have watched you from the start and I have to say Cycling maven might get jealous soon as your subs are getting very close to his and might surpass ;-)

Curious if they will be able to improve the kickr climb Zwift integration as you mentioned. I thought the Climb just takes the data directly from the Kickr, so Zwift doesn't even know about it. I hope that it can be resolved though! I am looking forward to this.

Is it worth it when specifically training for cycling in the mountains? I mean when cycling uphill your balance shifts and it’s hard to adapt to that when everything near you is flat

Ultimate set up. What's the all in cost for the entire kickr range you've got?

Finally... Woohoo! Now when will the damn thing ship?! I've been waiting (and constantly wearing down my F5 key on Wahoo's website) since Black Friday... Glad to hear they're making sure to get it right for sure, but good lord am I getting angsty waiting for this thing! Also glad to see you can change the axle height AND the wheelbase since that changes what angles correspond to what - that was a concern I hadn't seen previously addressed. For a taller ride I know I think it'll only be able to go to about 16%, but I doubt he would complain about ONLY 16% lol. I'm also curious to see the desk solutions people come up with. Looks like the Wahoo desk works OK-ish, but not as well as before where you could slide it back over top of the hoods, and instead now it looks like you have to just stretch out every time. Lastly - you said pre-orders are open, but where? On Wahoo's website you can still only sign up for email notifications... www.wahoofitness.com/devices/bike-trainers/kickr-climb-indoor-grade-simulator

I have a climb and I generally like it. The biggest problem is that Zwift often fails to deliver the gradient info to the unit. I’ve done all kinds of experiments and there’s no rhyme or reason to when it works and when it does not. You often won’t know that anything is wrong until 5 minutes into a Zwift ride because they usually start at 0%. So as soon as you warm up... nothing. You have a $650 front wheel stand. 🤷🏽‍♂️

trying to find the recommendation of the wifi/way to turn the power on/off with a remote? thought I saw it on this video, can't find it.

Cool, I want one. Can you do a video showing the "Trainer Difficulty" interactions? Will it move more when you crank it up?

Hi Shane - great review. So now we are removing front & rear wheel, just thinking whether I should then keep my old steel framed bike permanently setup...or are you better Zwifting on your good bike?

Great video. Your thoughts on this setup vs. the Tacx Neo? Which would you ride more often on your own time?

Hi there! Nice video. I love your reviews. Let me know, is kickr climb working on zwift workouts or only on free rides? Thanks

Nice review Shane. Looks like there was more side to side motion using the Climb than when on the trainer block. Was this bothersome and did it have any affect on wattage? Thanks!

Great video Shane, any reason why you use a front wheel mount with the wahoo? I thought you didn’t need to.

i dont have the money so its not really an issue for me, but i was kinda dissappointed in seeing the speed at which it went up and down. Whats the max gradient it goes up to? It didnt look that steep.

Nice Work Shane. I am interested in your experience on the climb in relation to the screen height. Like you, I have a wall mounted TV and I am keen to know if you had any difficulty with neck strain etc when the climb changed gradient. This would probably be at the worst on maximum downward gradients. Is there an optimal height for the screen when using the climb?

I want to ask the following questions: Why didn't you do a full out sprint? Why do you use the block for the front wheel? And is it compatible with other trainers? BUT I actually read the comments before I ask questions, and seeing as you answered them all 20 times I'll leave you be lol Great review as always Shane!

Llama! Thanks for the review! - I recently crashed and sprained both hands (a small fracture on one of my wrists) I was thinking of getting the climb to set it to max climb so the weight of my body is not so much on the hands while staying seated. Is that something I can achieve w the climb?

What size adapters ones for a normal road bike with the quick release?

Good review 👍... in your opinion which would be a better set up for a more immersive zwift experience.. tacx neo or kickr snap 17 with a climb?? (Both set ups around £1000 uk)

Great review Shane! I'm interested in getting one for myself. However, I have a few concerns. At 16:33, when you started jumping out of the saddle, the fork was flexing. Another closer look at 17:10, your frame in general flexed laterally. I understand bike frames do flex, especially when riding on trainers. With the fork mounted, the flex is magnified. I'm concern about prematurely fatigue stressing the frame, especially when the frame has small defects, which could lead to delamination. Any input? Did you try to all-out sprint on it? If yes, how stable was it? Keep up the good work!

Cool video. Question - it looked a little unnerving watching it move around. Obviously it’s locked in and the rear axle is locked too but did it feel any different from a wheel when actually in use?

Great review! I was curious about any delay.. Wahoo.. if you're reading.

Great review Shane, looks like a fun bit of kit but what about the supposed physiological benefits of riding at different angles engaging slightly different muscles, would a test with some pedal analysis software reveal anything perhaps?

Shane, with manual mode can one use the climb with other trainers? Great detailed video!

I just bought this and am very excited to use it. I am struggling with the adapter choices. You don't mention the size you choose that I can understand. I have 700x25 tire size quick release non disk brakes, I see numbers like 12x100 with the Blue sticker and so on. This is my struggle. I. don't know which one is for me

Does this Climb turn easily, such that you can use it with Zwift’s turning feature? Great review and demo video, thanks!

Shane any chance of a review of a rocker plate? They look cool and might also add to the ride experience

Great video - thanks for posting. So when I tried your "tip" to hold the bars and let the unit swing and settle mine is very stiff (brand new) and doesn't swing freely - any tips/ideas for this, QR too tight perhaps?

Compatibility note: we discovered today that the Climb does not work with Trek bikes that have a recess in the fork for a SpeedTrap speed sensor (vs. in the chainstay for a DuoTrap speed/cadence sensor). On those bikes, the forks have a larger-than-normal diameter, which causes them to rub against the housing of the Climb as the it raises and lowers the bike.

I'm curious to know how stable it feels when doing sprint type efforts. It looks stable, but if you jump out of the saddle and throw down hard does it feel properly planted?

Shane I.just checked out a vid on.fit rocker plates, you going to knock a set up with your diy skills ut should be a breeze. Eagerly waiting.

is there any point in buying a kickr 4 against kickr core if you already have a power meter with cadence and an additional cassette? and I also won't be using the higher power of the first, because I'm no pro :) I imagine that kickr core with kickr climb would be more than enough? why are you though using the kickr 4 instead of core? thank you very much Shane for all your hard work making high quality videos about smart trainers!

Missing the major selling point entirely - engagement of different muscles due to the different angle the bike is on during climbs and descents - ergo, better training for the real world as you're building muscles (that wouldn't ordinarily be engaged on a trainer) on the trainer that more closely resemble real-world muscle use. At least, that's what they were touting at Eurobike.

Nice. 4K :)

Great review Shane what is the weight limit of it please.

Hi Shane, I am coming to this a year later, so did they sort out the lag between Zwift and the climb so there is no delay in the end? Also, have there been any changes regarding ERG mode please? Thanks for the great review as always :)

KICKR CLIMB is the top. The only thing I don't like is that it's compatible only with KLICKR trainers. I don't want to change my top trainer Elite Drivo to have the climb experience

With your close relationship to wahoo do you think they will bring out “adaptors” so the climb could be used on say tacx neo etc?

What's Apl du Zwift like riding with the kickr. Just ordered one.🤘

You were talking about two settings on the Wahoo Fitness app. (timer 10:30), One was type of bike (axle height), the other you talked about (wheel base), which I don't know other than my height.Can you tell me what setting you were using as I will be using a road bike as well. My climb is coming in August.

@Shane - does the Zwift Trainer Difficultly setting impact the Climb? For example, if you have he Trainer Difficultly setting at 50%, will he Climb simulate half of the in-game gradient?

Hey Shane! First things first: thanks for all the good stuff! Might be a silly question: that Thule-desk in your videos...do you know the model of that? I tried to find something like that everywhere and found nothing. Would be great! Cheers from Switzerland and have a good one mate

When I stand on the pedals I usually put a lot of pressure on the handlebar, what are the weight limitations of the climber?

Thanks for a great video [as usual]. Possible to get the shipping box size and weight? I'd have to carry one back to India from the US.

To get the Climb to move the correct amount in Zwift, you can leave the difficulty at 50%, and just double your wheelbase length on the Wahoo App for Climb Setup.

How are you using two televisions in your setup? Is there another bike that was pulled out of view for this video, or are you using two screens for one Zwift experience?

Shane what would happen if you try and use this with a Kinetic Rock N Roll turbo? Would you fall over?! Or would it be super dope realism? Hmmmm...

Since this unit works from data transmitted from the trainer does the trainer difficulty slider in Zwift affect the climb unit??

In your honest opinion, which has more training benefit? Tacx NEO road feel or the Kickr Climb?

Do you know if a new version of the climb is coming out this year?

Does it work/pair with other than Wahoo trainers (from Tacx or Elite)?

you proberly get this question a million times but im looking for the best high end trainer where noice level is a concern, what would you recommend?

Shane how well would the KICKR Climb work on a rocker plate? Would it be stable enough?

I wonder if it works in conjunction with competing trainers from Elite and Tacx, as well.

What’s the diameter of the climbr power supply plug connector? I have found one without the supply

Power consumption would peak at 240w but on average it probably would consume less than 25w over a 1hr session so a couple of cents. Tacx neo with a self powered climber? So from what I can gather this climber only works with the latest version of kicker and not other smart trainers? If do that is disappointing. I can see a hack app coming shortly to get around it or perhaps Wahoo have but in an unlock protocol if they should decide to sell it as a bolt on. Oh a final question, will.the kicker get quieter because it seems very loud compared to.my whisper drive or the.neo. You can't hear the climber Shane over the whirring.

Any reason the Climb wouldn't work with a Tacx Genius (or other Tacx wheel-on trainers where the back wheel is held in place with two cups "grabbing" over a special Tacx QR skewer)? I can lift up my front wheel freely all the way until the bike is vertical (even longer if it weren't for the wall behind the bike) while the bike is on the trainer. No restistance or grinding whatsoever. Of course I mean using the remote to manually control the grade of the Climb, I know I need a Kickr trainer to make it automatic.

Hi Shane, I already posted this as a reaction to another Kickr Climb video. (Kickr) Indoor Trainers and ROCKR Plates so far so good, but the climb might turn out to be a problem for a lot of riders using it in the near future. Let me explain this. If you angle your setup into a climbing position, all the load moves back into the saddle. toes and feet get lighter, likewise irl on the road. Sitting in a climb, the steeper you go up, the more load moves back to saddle. Load in the saddle means the spine (esp the lower part with the discs, muscles and nerves, down to the sciatica) has to compensate this kind of load. IRL your bike is able to move in bidirectional positions, left/right and back/forward. Back and forward movement in a climbing position on the Kickr Climb is not possible in almost every setup I saw. So far only the new cycleops rockr plate gives this kind of motion. Unfortunately the risk for getting serious back problems and pain with the Kickr Climb is very high, cause the load for the spine will increase dramatically while climbing in a sitting position. To be honest, I am not sure, why no other orthopedician or physiotherapist came up with this to date. I won't even think about, how untrained riders and beginners in indoor training, with no suitable trained back muscles, will sum up after using the Kickr. Also I find it a little bit strange, that there is Zero health issue warning from Wahoo's side... Just my 2 cents! Beside that, have fun and ride on!