Knife Grinds: Comparing Hollow, Convex, and Flat Grinds

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Walter Sorrells

Walter Sorrells

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In this video knife maker Walter Sorrells explains the difference between various types of knife blade geometries. Their advantages and disadvantages will be discussed, and explanations will be given about how they are made.
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@jmstrings
@jmstrings 8 жыл бұрын
I've watched many other videos on different grinds and their uses, yours is by far the best. You really keep it simple and to the point. Another great video.
@RikthDcruze
@RikthDcruze 3 жыл бұрын
I've always been an advocate of the Flat grind. Easy to produce, mentain, & use. Also very versatile. not just that, It's the only blade type you should take on your epic adventures.
@johnfroehlich3461
@johnfroehlich3461 8 жыл бұрын
This was a great video, would you do one on different knife tip types also (i.e. drop point, tanto, dagger, bowie, etc.) Thanks, Johnf
@AustimosPrime
@AustimosPrime 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve known the pros/cons and the shapes of these grinds for a long time but seeing the techniques used to attain them really solidified my understand. Thank you for this video.
@tooterr101oldgeezer4
@tooterr101oldgeezer4 8 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you taking the time to explain the different grinds you mentioned. thanks for sharing,
@MrGalenkelly
@MrGalenkelly Жыл бұрын
Like others have noted, this is an extremely easy to understand and useful video! It cleared up a few misconceptions I had instantly. Really great to see how the grinds are manufactured: I think that's necessary for the differences to truly click. Many thanks!
@josephjasonsantiagolacour
@josephjasonsantiagolacour 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated, Sir Walter. And I absolutely love how you stage your photos.
@leetester9170
@leetester9170 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to put this video together. Very informative 👍🏻
@willieboy3011
@willieboy3011 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The photos of the different grinds, the advantages and disadvantages of the different grinds, and the different blade shapes are both shown and explained well.
@griffinrevell9455
@griffinrevell9455 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! There is a lot of conflicting information out there about the specifics of the different grind types. You did an excellent job clearing it up. All of your videos are truly excellent and I am extremely appreciative of all of your efforts!
@Chillykitten42
@Chillykitten42 5 ай бұрын
Such a well done video. Awesome explanation and examples, thank you!
@HurleyJ13
@HurleyJ13 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Not lengthy. Perfect.
@BryGuy418
@BryGuy418 2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow. Simple, clear, and straight to the point. One of the best presentations of information I’ve seen in a while. Thanks for the info, keep up the great work!
@donaldtaylor8287
@donaldtaylor8287 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Simple, yet very informative. Again, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@javierantoniovarasgenestie5313
@javierantoniovarasgenestie5313 6 жыл бұрын
Your videos are by far the bests! Many try to explain this but you make it so funny and aesy. Thanks for sharing
@davidsewell7846
@davidsewell7846 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video Walter. Really clear explanation. Keep it up.
@Rprecision
@Rprecision 8 жыл бұрын
I prefer a fine convex however a full flat grind with a convex secondary works well too! Thanks for getting this video done.
@The24degrees
@The24degrees 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos Walter, I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work!
@sebastianacacia7621
@sebastianacacia7621 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video Walter! This helps sooooo much! Thank you!!!
@freeman3061
@freeman3061 6 жыл бұрын
Good solid video . Right to the point and explained well with good examples .
@adamcorn8833
@adamcorn8833 6 жыл бұрын
Great videos, Walter! I’m learning a lot from you.
@darrenporter1347
@darrenporter1347 8 жыл бұрын
Great vid, Thanks. I just started trying out convex grinds, seem to work well for me.
@Gpknives
@Gpknives 8 жыл бұрын
Great overview of the basic different grind types!
@Skidz1818
@Skidz1818 2 жыл бұрын
I love your website!
@paranoy69
@paranoy69 8 жыл бұрын
Good video and good explanations... like always... Best regards
@GreySquirrelly1016
@GreySquirrelly1016 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I’ve got a British Army MoD survival knife. I put a Convex edge on it using a strop and progressive grit sandpaper.
@kellyhansen6496
@kellyhansen6496 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this information.
@waltersmith4743
@waltersmith4743 3 жыл бұрын
hi thanks for all the info,love knife making,GREAT hobby,you have taugh me a lot thank walter smith
@vinnyoutside8936
@vinnyoutside8936 8 жыл бұрын
Great information, thank you! That helped me a lot.
@jarlove
@jarlove 8 жыл бұрын
I love the convex grind :)
@mdj391
@mdj391 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative video as always! Domo arigatogozaimashita!
@robertlombardo8437
@robertlombardo8437 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! I know what grind to put on my straight razor and my kitchen knife! Also, that transition looks and sounds like something out of Home Improvement. Hehehe!
@MrRabarbarabarba
@MrRabarbarabarba 8 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Quality never decreases on this channel. So i'd like to express a wish for the next knifemaking video. I'm interested in making a Bowie knife and would like to see your "interpretation" of one. Would be nice to watch.
@bibleredpill
@bibleredpill 2 жыл бұрын
Cleared that up. Thanks.
@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234
@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing us
@nnnndrop
@nnnndrop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, This is some great information.
@philipdunn7538
@philipdunn7538 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as usual. Thank you for putting in the effort. That fighting style blade with the false edge on spine l@@@@@Ks amazing.
@Tappar1
@Tappar1 8 жыл бұрын
cool video, very helpful as a knife noob I didn't have any idea what the differing grinds were good for :)
@jameskirkup1384
@jameskirkup1384 8 жыл бұрын
great video - I'd love to see a future video on making a scandi grind bush afr knife!
@patrickgermond2750
@patrickgermond2750 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are almost at 300,000 subs. I remember finding you 5 years ago when I started making knives
@aktrapper6126
@aktrapper6126 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Walter, your videos "cut through" all the bs and just give pure good information.
@AdamCraigOutdoors
@AdamCraigOutdoors 8 жыл бұрын
i dont make knifes or even care to make knifes. but man i love watching your videos. i do like knifes and own a few custom. thanks for explaining the grinds.
@GBall_Vision
@GBall_Vision 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@jodyfree953
@jodyfree953 2 жыл бұрын
Great info!
@richhoule3462
@richhoule3462 5 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot. Thanks!
@colsoncustoms8994
@colsoncustoms8994 8 жыл бұрын
Scandi grind is also pretty solid.
@Ponto22lr
@Ponto22lr 8 жыл бұрын
+Colson Customs Scandi grind is my favorite one for utilitary knives
@rylanreasons7221
@rylanreasons7221 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a weak grind but very sharp
@gordonterry199
@gordonterry199 7 жыл бұрын
thank you. I can't count the number of times I've researched this video to refresh my memory.
@enoughofyourkoicarp
@enoughofyourkoicarp 8 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you. :)
@darthfloyd7948
@darthfloyd7948 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips Walter. Could you make a video showing how to do the different grinds by hand and could you include how to make a serrated blade. Thanks.
@farmermike9262
@farmermike9262 7 жыл бұрын
looks like the best knife edge is subject to great debate. I guess ill have to own both a saber and a scandi and take to the woods and let all the hot air out on a piece of wood. Thanks for all the information. Now I can move forward with confidence
@michaelrobinson1341
@michaelrobinson1341 8 жыл бұрын
Walter Sorrel, are you on FM radio anywhere? Seriously dude, the world needs to hear your voice. You would be doing us a favour.
@walkonking
@walkonking 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Walter
@pabloolivero2783
@pabloolivero2783 6 жыл бұрын
Very good video
@Lars1540
@Lars1540 6 жыл бұрын
I would have liked it if he could have compared scandi vs sabre vs full flat. These are the top 3 most common grinds for outdoor knives. I'd like to know the specific advantages and disadvantages to each of those grinds.
@samaker4
@samaker4 8 жыл бұрын
thanks Walter. I always thought the hollow grind was the only true grind. I'll try some of the others.
@juanelcazador300
@juanelcazador300 7 жыл бұрын
Thank Mister Walter
@daisy8luke
@daisy8luke 8 жыл бұрын
I agree about the flat grind limiting the sharpness. But lately I've been putting the secondary bevel on a really shallow angle, making the cutting edge quite thin and , therefore, sharp. With proper heat treating, I've been able to produce a really good zone between being too thin and not being able to take the beating to being thin enough to get and stay razor sharp through the beating.
@NiceTubeAccount
@NiceTubeAccount 6 жыл бұрын
+1 best movie about this topic with machines examples
@gokartsminibikesandmore9925
@gokartsminibikesandmore9925 8 жыл бұрын
Wow just when I needed help.with grinding
@adshwartz
@adshwartz 8 жыл бұрын
You're awesome! Thanks
@zeangelinofishing961
@zeangelinofishing961 8 жыл бұрын
Realy nice video! great learning videi too !! but didnt you forget the scandi gring? cheers keep the nice work!
@twotonanchor
@twotonanchor 8 жыл бұрын
That's cool, man. Thanks.
@CKKnifeandTool
@CKKnifeandTool 8 жыл бұрын
Hey there Walter, can you give us a few ideas, tips and references regarding finishes on wood scales? Penetrating oils, stains, lacquer, etc..? Thanks
@kaizoebara
@kaizoebara 8 жыл бұрын
Regarding the convex grind, these are fairly easily sharpened by proper application of the 'mousepad-method' - the mousepad is used as a flexible backing for different grades of SiC-paper; a drywall hand sander works even better since it has clips to hold the paper. Once the convex edge is sharp, a strop will give it the final finish and also be useful to maintain the edge for a long time.
@otobotrecords
@otobotrecords 9 ай бұрын
Sharpening a convex grind is pretty easy on a whetstone. That mousepad method is some masochistic but somehow funny phenomenon.
@jordanmahara7513
@jordanmahara7513 8 жыл бұрын
I find a flat grind without secondary bevel (where the cutting edge is at the same angle as the flat) is a fairly good balance between hollow and convex but allowing very sharp edges as well. Particularly noticeable in wide blades where the angle of the flat is really steep.
@lol49031
@lol49031 7 жыл бұрын
convex grinds can be made on contact wheels/bench grinder by moving the blade up and down as you grind, its way faster than slack belt grinding but tends to give a wavy pattern on the grind line
@jackdaniels7913
@jackdaniels7913 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thank you for sharing! 🥃cheers🍻
@polarweis
@polarweis 8 жыл бұрын
With Hollow grind you also keep a thiner edge right after sharpening? Where a flat grind keeps getting thicker a hollow gets thick and then slim again.
@FALpwn
@FALpwn 7 жыл бұрын
you should do a video on knife points like clip point, drop point, tanto, etc. sorry if you have already done this.
@richardstrouth2359
@richardstrouth2359 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This was a very good video. I wanted to know what a hollow grind meant. One question. How would you classify the scandi grind like on mora knives?
@deanhickmanii5589
@deanhickmanii5589 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@carlantaya175
@carlantaya175 8 жыл бұрын
Love concave grinds.
@jamessethmoore
@jamessethmoore 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@KeleMen125
@KeleMen125 8 жыл бұрын
can you make a video about different flat grinds ? If i'm correct there are a few different grinds that can be made and I think they all fal under flat grinds. Like scandi grind, or duble grind ( secondary grind), U grind ( not as shap but lasts longer, good for chopping, usualy on axes) and some more
@rocktcop
@rocktcop 8 жыл бұрын
Good info, however; I would have to disagree on the convex. I find my convex blades and especially those other grind knives with their secondary bevels "converted" to a convex edge the easiest to maintain. No precise angles to worry about. All you need is a somewhat flexible surface and some light abrasive. In a pinch, out in the field, some silty mud from the creek bottom rubbed on your thigh of your jeans and you got an instant strop for that convex edge. Like some of the others have stated, I am also somewhat partial to a Scandi grind as well for out in the bush.
@Rakadis
@Rakadis 8 жыл бұрын
Scandinavian grind for life.
@dieselstruck
@dieselstruck 8 жыл бұрын
I used to hate the look of scandi knives. That is, till I tried one. Impressed really.
@christiankirkenes5922
@christiankirkenes5922 8 жыл бұрын
+Rakadis Til Valhalla!!
@harrisonking8156
@harrisonking8156 8 жыл бұрын
Scandi is literally a partial flat without a secondary bevel, in theory it sounds terrible but it works so good! Scandi's are awesome for bushcraft :D
@dscrive
@dscrive 8 жыл бұрын
+Rakadis I recently discovered the scandi when I bought a mora to carve a whole sale order of a few hundred figure 4 traps. easy to keep wicked sharp, and the steel holds an edge fantastically. I love it for woodworking, but I prefer a beefier blade for general purpose.
@Rakadis
@Rakadis 8 жыл бұрын
+dscrive Try the more traditional blades. Most Mora blades are mass produced as disposable work tools. Most are never sharpened. Just discarded. Try the Helle Viking instead for instance. 3.7 mm thick carbon steel blade. With proper care it will last until it is sharpened it in to dust. I have had mine for about 6 years. Perfect knife for the mountainous boreal forest areas in western Norway that I call home.
@mavos1211
@mavos1211 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Walter I love your work, what type of grind works best for a carving knife?
@MysticKnight38
@MysticKnight38 8 жыл бұрын
Considering I can sharpen my scandi grind (deeper flat grind) in the field with emory cloth pinched between my thumb and forefinger. I'll stick with scandi. The other advantage is you are taking equal amounts of steel off both sides at the same time.... it would be very hard to move the edge off centre. The downside, it isn't as fast as a belt grinder... especially if your knife is a very hard steal.
@EkoTheMasterPlayTheGame
@EkoTheMasterPlayTheGame 8 жыл бұрын
can you make a video on how to make the marble fade or the rainbow stains I've seen on knives?
@terrillschneider3778
@terrillschneider3778 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@germ4bass
@germ4bass 8 жыл бұрын
hay walter im new to the knife making game and i enjoyed your how to make a knife out of a file video and when i get the time im going to try to make one . but i was wondering if you have made a knife out of a hedge clipper Blade before . the Damascus steel blade you make look really cool.
@johnkotlarchick707
@johnkotlarchick707 8 жыл бұрын
can you please show how to grind a tanto!!! I'm having so much trouble.
@TimothyRyanFisher
@TimothyRyanFisher 7 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the Scandi Grind? It's the only grind I can sharpen with confidence, I use a flat stone. How does it compare?
@greasemnky27
@greasemnky27 Жыл бұрын
There's a tool for every job 🤘
@larrytipson4585
@larrytipson4585 8 жыл бұрын
What kinds of sharpening stones do you use? I saw a few interesting ones in this video.
@kerrythetruth5091
@kerrythetruth5091 8 жыл бұрын
thanks
@tristanfreel7774
@tristanfreel7774 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Walter I want to know how do you know long your stock will become when forged for like knives, sword, katana, and etc.
@cheapmovies25
@cheapmovies25 8 жыл бұрын
In my xp, full flat and convex are better at slicing like cardboard and soft stuff, hollow seems to not be as good, but is better for skinning game and cuts well, just not a great slicer. Its why most kitchen knives are not hollow grind. Also, I'm referring to mostly a half hollow grind, one from the spine is on par with flat, maybe more support on spine. Full convex can be sharpened easily with sandpaper and soft pad as well. The nice vid
@johnnyboy1586
@johnnyboy1586 11 ай бұрын
Yes but kitchen knives are thin over all which makes then good slicers,overall a hollow is the best slicer as the point of contact is at the cutting edge and the spine leaving the hollow part friction free
@37hud
@37hud 6 жыл бұрын
I find all the grinds useful in some way or another. But I have to admit that I find the hallow and flat grinds most useful. Aside from chopping witch I don’t do with my knives anyway.
@4nhk066
@4nhk066 5 жыл бұрын
full convex or FFG with a slight convex micro bevel is the best for me
@StodOneR
@StodOneR 6 жыл бұрын
@Walter Sorrells I wonder if you will see this comment , not to mention it is on an older video , but how would you hand sharpen a convex grind after it is dulled , I am not sure about the blade terminology , but usually on a knife there is a parallel part , then one angle and then third the edge , I know to sharpen knives like that , but when it has a convex grind and only that one big edge , I dont get how to sharpen the knife without making that "third" edge ... I hope you get me xD
@bosse641
@bosse641 8 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't the Scandi mentioned? Such a great grind. ....and so easy to sharpen. .....even a child can do it.
@TaskMaster1983
@TaskMaster1983 8 жыл бұрын
He did mention it. Scandi grind is also known as a Sabre grind.
@bosse641
@bosse641 8 жыл бұрын
+TaskMaster1983 ltwrightknives.com/grinds.html
@daisy8luke
@daisy8luke 8 жыл бұрын
+TaskMaster1983 I think the one little difference, though, is that the scandi grind doesn't have that secondary bevel for the cutting edge. It goes straight on down from the primary bevel to the cutting edge. I'd prefer the technical saber grind to the scandi grind.
@LastBastian
@LastBastian 8 жыл бұрын
+John Grytbakk Easy to maintain the bevel angle, but it is the most labor intensive and time consuming of all grinds to sharpen.
@bosse641
@bosse641 8 жыл бұрын
Bastian ....I don't find that to be the case at all. ...it's so easy and quick.
@mohammedzaidulla8063
@mohammedzaidulla8063 8 жыл бұрын
Hello can you tell me how to use water stones and which is the best stone to Sharp knife's and swords
@houseoffire72
@houseoffire72 8 жыл бұрын
My two favorite grinds would be "Scandi" & the "Convex"
@CalculusVariations99
@CalculusVariations99 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I AM EDUCATED! :D
@tmpace9
@tmpace9 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder how a knife with two different types of grinds would preform. I want a beefy knife for light wood processing, but also for making feathers sticks and crafting. So I thought about making a know with a convex side for chopping and a scandi grind (which shouldn't be too bad while chopping) but I want to be able to get the correct angle for feather sticking. That's hard with a convex grind.
@slchang01
@slchang01 2 жыл бұрын
If I were you, I'd get an axe for wood chopping, and a flat grind for woodworking...The knifes are relatively cheap now a day, maybe you can get two knives to get what you want to do...
@ricLPHDMC
@ricLPHDMC 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Walter, is coconut palm Wood good for a knife handle?
@lqs0092
@lqs0092 8 жыл бұрын
can you show us how to use the table grinder because i dont have a belt grinder .☺
@thomasnoack2525
@thomasnoack2525 8 жыл бұрын
thks :)
@ronagoodwell2709
@ronagoodwell2709 3 ай бұрын
Did I miss the Scandi grind?
@TheOnyxMage
@TheOnyxMage 8 жыл бұрын
Would you make a straight razor for craps and giggles?
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