So you got the Q5 polymer version?

I got to hold one and try the trigger at a match this weekend. Super trigger!!! Home Run.

I wish they would make one of those with the paddle style mag release.

@@sclegalcarry7979 Apparently Walther makes an adjustable competition trigger for the PPQ series that bypasses the drop safety to deliver a sublimely sensitive trigger with a light break, but there is some issue about importing it to the U.S. as designed. Liability issues or something.

Purchased one a couple of weeks ago. Love it. Red dot on today. Super accurate. Good vid.

@@davidolmsted6057 Which optic did you choose?

Any link about this information?

Worth twice the cost in my opinion....and I haven't even fired it yet 🤷‍♂️

Where did you find the guide rod?

Thanks!

17 round mags same as standard ppq mags except for the base plate. Obviously would be double stack at this capacity because if it was single stack the mag would be like a foot long out the bottom of the gun.

KSGunGuy if one can afford it, yes.

I have the polymer version and it's amazing. I can't see how the steel frame is worth almost double the price.

Ryan Jones just got it today. I could have purchased the SF. But I am happy with my choice.

@@ryanjones628 research metal work vs plastic production costs/methods. Then you will know why. Especially when building a match firearm.

@@DrRosko I understand the cost for materials is higher. The point I was trying to make is it cost double the price of the polymer frame but it's not twice as better. The original q5 is a hell of a gun and probably the best competition pistol to come stock from a factory. Is the gun a little more higher quality? Yea, but not by much. Definitely not worth double the price.

Because originally (before rails) that part of the frame was only to cover the gap between the muzzle and trigger guard to prevent debris from getting into the action.

I was concerned too, but the steel frame grip is even better imo.

The stock SF grip is a bit larger than my PPQ 4" and hitting the mag release is a little slower for competitions. But there are 3rd party grips out now which you can tune (LOKgrips is what I'm trying now). Steel frame shoots a lot flatter and with a RMR my accuracy and times are way up.

@@GBGuns Great to know because I like the Polymer grip.

The PPS M2 is an excellent single-stack

Graham Baates I got the G43 when it first came out, and not two months later the PPS M2 came out, and I was kicking myself for not waiting. Fun fact, when I first got my PPQ, I asked Walther on their Facebook page if they could make an M2 version of the PPS with the same grip texture, palm swells, front cocking serrations, & push button mag release. About a year later they debuted the M2 at SHOT. I went back and my comment had been deleted....

The G43 is my least favorite single stack. Way too snappy

Graham Baates I hear ya. Gonna be getting a SS guide rod to see if that will reduce felt recoil. I’ve got an X10 Elite to measure recoil. I was a LEO disabled in the line of duty, and started this channel to help disabled outdoorsmen (and women) find ways to get back outside and back to their passions.

The polymer version won't depreciate either, it's 1of the best guns on the market.

Why would anyone change the trigger?

It is compatible, but the blue trigger as funky as it looks is the best stock trigger there is on the market with its 1 or less millimeter reset resulting in tight groups and extremely fast shooting.

Yea but so is the polymer filter almost half the price lol

Those are in separate videos. Search the channel page for "Walther"

The Blue Trigger is the best stock Trigger of any polymer gun in the market right now, the reset after firing is 1 millimeter or less resulting in highly accurate groups and fast firing for competition. Check out some more reviews on it :)

@@VargVikernes1349 I don't doubt it's an excellent trigger. The COLOR just cheapens the LOOK of the gun.

I never mention prices as they change and the video can not, plus commenting a price leads KZfaq to believe I'm trying to sell which is incorrect. If someone is seriously interested they should look up the price in their region at the time they are looking to buy. Several of the guns I have reviewed have fluctuated wildly in price since their respective videos came out. If your intent was to complain about the price difference you should look up the cost of squirting plastic into a mold versus CNC machining steel.

Why not???

Move out I did last year. The fees, taxes, oppressive laws, shrinking job opportunities, awful schools, and rampant criminality will only get worse.

Jason Schmidt rampant criminality? So it looks like their gun laws/crime is working for them then.

That depends on the holster material and type. To be safe I'd get a different holster.

@@GBGuns thank you sir

AL KOSMO I paid about $850 for the polymer last year, I’ve heard the steel frame is around $1500.

Which one is the M5 then??? Lol

With better reliability.

I have the 4006 and agree with you

CZ Shadow is on another level, can't compare the CZ against a Walther, not even close. They're both great platform but in the competitive world, CZ is king!

I'm really not that impressed with the CZ Shadow 2. Cosmetically, it is superior to the SP 01, but the SP 01 has better ergonomics ( for me) and a crisper trigger. Overall, I don't feel it is worth nearly twice the price. The Walther q5 steel is interesting, but I doubt it is better than the CZ tactical sport.....

Get both. I did and both are great.

Check out our slow motion comparison video

The muzzle flip is more than a Glock but to me it's not a deal-breaker. In the end it's really just about your affinity with a certain gun. Though what I can tell you is that the steel frame version is a waste of money. Past a certain skill level, there will be no difference in split time and a lighter polymer frame would only give you advantage in draw speed and target transition.

If you think there are no all steel heavy .22 lr you're sorely wrong

I don't waste my time or yours with specs that can be found on the manufacturer's websites

@@GBGuns is that why you wasted our time with what's in the box. ?

@@omikeyutube if you watch the little red line at the bottom of the screen you have the ability to skip past any section of a video.

@@GBGuns it's a wonderful feature of KZfaq isn't it :-)

Yeah, it's a little hard to swallow. At this price I wish the trigger was even crisper and lighter than the stock ppq even if it was just by a little bit. A lot of guns it's competing with have sub 3 lb triggers. This is full blown msrp though so hopefully if walther makes enough of these supply will go up and the price will come down.

@@stevezatrine7747 apparently there will be spring kits released for it

It is a PPQ, its a PPQ Q5 Match. Making this the superior PPQ model.

We shoot quite often. Did you miss thee several videos in which we shoot these pistols?