There you go...not a patch on the BSA...well you certainly get what you pay for... 😉

Awesome review again Andy

Hi Chris, thankyou for time, in making your film. Personally, I love the look of the R10. In my humble opinion, BSA are where they should be with this rifle. I'm a great believer in, you get what you pay for. I've heard issues with leaks, with yhe R10's, but this may be an issue in transportation from factory, to individual outlets. They're not allowed to be transported with air inside. So with no pressure inside, the seals may move. When charged up again at the shop/store, obviously, the seals may have moved and won't seal. The Air pressure would have kept the seals in place. If the gunsmith doesn't check them over, there will be air pressure issues. From what I can see from the reviews, the new R12, released on 1st Sept, this year, the action is a one piece block, so hopefully less seals will be required, and less chance of problems. The R10 and R12 both look fabulous kit and when you think, what BSA have done for us, they are where they ought to be in air rifle manufacture. The two BSA's are fabulous air rifles. Thankyou Chris and BSA.

Chris, don't "chase the dot". If the first shot is a flyer, your screwed! Fire at least three before adjusting your aim. All in all, fantastic video! Thanks, again, for the time you put in making these. Kudos!

Great , looking forward to the review.

Another useful comparison test, both great guns, but I'm not sure the R10 is worth the extra cost, for my money I would buy the RM8 as it seems superb value. Thank you for taking the time to bring us these vids. Subscribed.

I have the RM8 that the shop recommended for my budget. A bit heavy. But I love it. Great video. Love the way you say you don't care. That's what it's all about. It's personal.

I think this shows the importance of your projectile and it’s weight...it also shows how good the rm8 really is...I think that the rm8 will shoot as well at that range with the bisley magnums....so many variables in this sport which keep it interesting.great job again👍👍👍

Just some thoughts, having watched a few back to back tests now as I'm in the market for a PCP. Even though you have the rifles in a gunvice, your table is wobbling all over when you reload, and I can see it move when you fire. The trendy stick on targets look great but the traditional 25 metre type of target make it much easier to measure a group size. Watching holes appear in a piece of paper in real time gets tedious - how about speeding the video up (like Bloke on the Range does) till we have a group shot? Interestingly I owned one of the first RM8s, and used JSB Exacts - but it was the pellet head size that could make a very noticeable difference to accuracy and grouping, as I tried three different sizes to get the best match to the barrel; could you perhaps mention pellet head size where it is known? I hope that can be taken as constructive, not a moan or a troll. Having watched your vid, I'd be happy to spend my £ on the RM8 though! Take care.

Thanks for the video. On your utube video I got myself the rm8 for hunting could not afford the r10 thanks Chris

My R10 is regulated , 2nd hand and loves the JSB 4.5 8.4 gr .

Thank you for another informative and fun video. I have a R10,had it for around 5 years or so and I love it, I recently bought a Gamo coyote for £385 new i believe it's made in the BSA factory? the accuracy is on par with the R10 which is brilliant for the price. I bought a (sample pack) of pellets and found the rs super domes work well in it. thanks again please keep them coming :)

Nice video, just bought the TH. Subbed 🤘

My BSA R10SE ( FAC) shoots everything excellent above 10gr. It has a longer barrel, 19 inches. I get 50 shots, or 30 for the tightest extreme spread. 10.65gr running around 885fps average. SD 3 to 5. Its deadly accurate and totally reliable. Hi from the USA.....🎯

Nice video mate. M owning both the r10 and the rm8 and agree with you👍. But the r10 and the bucaneer which I have is still moi favorite guns of all time.

Fab thank you so much for the test ive bought the bsa r10 th

I had a .177 r10 aadf were great in it, jsb exact had to be 4.52 otherwise it was a shotgun. It didn't like anything heavy . Love the honest way you present, subscribed too

Good review and try jsb heavy and hn ftt in the r10 you might be amazed at that 40meter range

good video and love these comparisons, nothing to apologise for the last portion of the video, the scope is good for hunting with a .22 LR out to 100 yards , but not much chop for target shooting accuracy with an air riffle, in the time you gave yourself, but good effort all the same. The video has also pushed me towards the BSA R10 . would ideally want to know the ideal pellet over 10 yard increments 20 -50 y. pretty sure your followers would be interested as well.... willing to help

I did notice in your vid is that the rotex shots sometimes cracked off louder shots which is when you got the flyers. It could be your mike or was it inconsistent with the air release. Thanks for your review 👍

My question was right between these two weapons, in the end I decided the BSA R10SE, over the Walter Rotex R8. The R10 groups in a magnificent way, but I noticed that Walter's stock has a small picatiny rail at the end of the stock that does not have the R10 does not have and that is missing to be able to mount a bipod, for the rest I do not regret having chosen the R10 Saludos desde Chile

I have both. The r10 stock is stunning. Its slightly more accurate , but does jamb now and again. The magazines are a little finicky on how they're loaded. The rm8 isn't as pretty, the bolt is more clunky, but it's never jambed up on me. And doesn't get fliers like the one you've reviewed. But it is an older style one with wooden stock.

pellet diameter is very important , i can fire air arms 5.52 through s410 and titan manitau with good results the titan also likes h&n ftt 5.53 but the s410 does not like those at all and both a walther barrels wether they are the same rifling i don't know? i would imagine that lead hardness is a factor too depending on how many rifling groves they are and how deep ?

Only problem with PIO matching POA is once you lose your aiming mark the group always open up, that why benchrest shooter alway aim off; keeps the groups tighter 👍

I've used the Express 7.87gr & the Heavies 10.34gr in my S200AA & the HW-97K, been using them as my standard amo for the longest time! Yes, it is incredible how important it is to find the right pellet for your airguns! That R-10 BSA is beautiful AND with the right amo, I'm sure it would be a pellet on pellet rifle for sure. Nice video thx! :-)

I know it’s not practical- but a wider choice of pellets is needed for a gun v gun comparison and there are so many other factors like were the pellets all weighed and shot by weight grouping? Ergonomics- of the individual Rifle-not just shooting from a rest (which looks extremely wobbly!) are important comparisons, a single shot tray would also be fairer as some mag systems mangle pellets more than others . A fairer tardy would be a Weirauch KT100 against the BSA

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Hi. What scope is on your RM8?

To eliminate unconscious bias in pellet comparisons, it would be a good idea to have someone else load your magazines and fire blind (as it were). A lot more confidence in results would be gained that way.

Every time you pulled back I watched the tip of the rifle barrel and on both guns the positioning “even with shooting stand was very unstable and never seemed to return to its original point…..that has to make a difference.

Try using target's with a bullseye no bigger than the size of the pellet. A few clicks on the windage of your scope will stop the bullseye being destroyed. Take a look at pellet sample packs on eBay if you want more options when testing. Take your time shooting. Considering getting a bubble level to make sure you are not canting the rifle. 👍

Do you have a link for the farm you mentioned.

My ultra in 177 does not like jsb magazine fouls one in 15 shots Change to h&n ftt amazing transformation, well done Chris. I actually think until you find the right pellet for a particular gun these tests are not fair on the gun and more to the point not fair on the person who is after buying a particular gun

Would like to see who shoots the best out of the FX DREAMLINE and the BSA R10 or 12.

Have you tried making sure that the target doesn't slip out of place when you shoot it :)

Exactly the same as my R10 , except mine dislikes ALL JSBs , Biz Mags in mine .. it's the only ones it likes ... the .22 on the other hand is happy with any quality pellet .. strange , but true .. subbed

Do more reviews comparison with pellets

R10 is a fab little rifle

I own both in .22 and can say with the right ammo at 30 yards both are tack drivers. I shoot pest up to 60 yards with my R10 but not tried the R8 at that range on live prey. If I had to choose one it would be the R10 but the R8 is far cheaper gun so maybe better value. Pays your money and take your choice.

I have ordered the RM8 in 1.77 what pellets do you recommend for 60 to 80 yards ?

Shame you didn't do the 10.34's!!

Just goes to show how good the Rm8 is. Similar accuracy ( pallet depending) at about half the price.

.177 or .22 which are you testing

I find with PCP air rifles they are all pretty accurate there not that much differance in them , it tends to be in qaulity of stocks and triggers ect , but i would never pay over £600 for a air rifle i just dont think the performance out of a £1000 plus air rifle like a daystate or FX is all that much better to be honest . Its the same with Rim fires as well my £325 Cz452 easliy keeps up with rifle that cost triple that.

I got the gamo coyote it is very accurate and cheap

Which rifle is better? Neither the Gamo phox will shoot them both under the table

My criticism of that is that the table you were resting your garden I’ve noticed it quite a few times moves it wasn’t stable enough it wasn’t solid enough and I think that’s why you were getting the groupings that you were getting that’s my opinion LOL

it was a good video the air gun s stock was cool and it was a good group beatiful air gun tums upp

I have an RM8 UC and it prefers the JSB Exact 8.44gr in 4.53 size, not 4.52 it can be that fussy to get the best from the gun.

I've been looking at buying a RM8 but I'm not sure now and I'm quite disappointed in the R10 I thought this gun was really accurate considering its twice the price

Hi chris you called the weather a raine but its a rotex rm8 colin

I would check the crown and the silencer alignment on that R10. Something not right there.

Great vid! Is the R10 the super carbine? Subbed 👍

why do not write the distance down in the target?

I'm in 2 minds about getting the RM8 or the Gamo Gx40. I heard the Gx40 is freakishly accurate but has a shot count of 70 before needing a refill but the RM8 has a 180 shot count. Which one would you recommend?

I know the BSA r10 is regulated as I have one in 22 but is the rm8? I know it's a lot cheaper 👍

for Walther Rotex RM8 only jsb heavy is perfect try it and you will see

Usually light pellets for springer's and heavier for PCP with exceptions of coarse! If you suddenly get a shotgun patern always check the suppressor is tight and the internals are tight as most are can be stripped so check both end caps and remove the silencer and check with a torch for lead marks on the inside edge of the exit end, You did not mention head sizes, unfortunately for our wallets this is a pain but so worth it buy a couple of mixed test sets, Generally Weihrauch 4.51 or 5.51 in .22. Air Arms 4,.2 or 5.52 in ,22. FX toss a coin! BSA variable from model to model and I will stop there as your probably bored by now, call me a know it all but I am 60 and been shooting for at least 50 years including firearms the silencer problem happened to my Father in laws .22 rim fire and he was pulling his hair out, when I wandered in and showed him the lead marks he was delighted it was fixed but I think he hates me! I don't know which part of the country you live in but would love to meet up for a shoot.

I think you need to secure your target first and change the backstop.

R8 How much

What calibre are both rifles and are they Sub 12.ft/lbs

Don’t use jsb pellets in testing as they are not the best for quality control. I test with mainly Bisley/H&N these days(namely LRG, baracuda ft/8, FTT).

sir test with px100

Try to clean rotex it will eliminate inaccuraci

Im not being rude fella but you aren’t exactly delicate with your reload style “I mean that respectfully” just look at the silencer tip when you pull on the bolt and it never seemed to go back to home/post sighting position….just an observation……love the channel either way.

You definitely need a sturdier rest!

Great review! Thanks for doing some pellet testing. It makes such a difference! R10's are great, especially the Super Carbine you've got. I'd go for the black soft-touch version, just so you can be a little more carefree when in the field - wouldn't want to damage that lovely Minelli Walnut. Maybe you could get your hands on an HW110K as another slight upgrade from the Prof's RM8? Really enjoy your work! Shoot well and stay safe. Grey

Both eyes open

At 30 meters I wouldn't call any of those groups particularly good and certainly not exceptional, I've used both the R10 and the RM8 both are capable of far better accuracy than you can shoot.

trying not to seem like an ass you should definitely tries the JSB 10.34

Rm8 was under a lot of movement and re positioning so not a fair. Trial

There you have it folks the super carbine is rubbish over a standard r10 lol ive never seen groups that bad since i had my r10 super carbine hence why i sold it and my r10 mk2 now the worse groups are like the r10 in this video at its best groups lol

To cut a very long story short.................simply buy an FX Maverick .25 tuned at 65fpe & 33grn ZAN slugs.............everything you could want from an airgun.

Is the rm8 in your experience any good for hunting

Loose the tripod and get a decent one, bench rest shooters wouldn’t give those plastic things houseroom!.

I love my R10 with a vector veyron scope it’s accurate and looks beautiful I’m sure the rm 8 is also accurate but my god it’s ugly 😖

The prat forgets to lock the catch for the mag and then wonders why the group is not very good. der.

never never the RM8 is so bad ! i think here is a battle england vs germany and england must win...

Don’t see the point in comparing 2 guns where one is twice the price ?? & I don’t care what u think ??

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Hard to trust your shooting ability.

Bad result from a £ 1100 rifle! A £450 GAMO Coyote does better!

Love your reviews but have to give you an 🙄 for your " this is my thumb " drives me nuts when people do that. Please have a 5p with you, that is something I have and is a standard size. Thumbs on the other hand😂😂😂😂😂 keep up the good work

Stick to British. Your money will put British families in work. And you get value for money.

The R10. No need for the video.