Achaean-Hittite Conflict (1400 BC) - Battle of Zippasla & Mycenaean Expansion into Anatolia

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Achaean expansion into Anatolia brought them into conflict with the Hittites. In this video, we talk about the Mycenaean prince Atreas (Attarsiya), Hittite king Tudhaliya and his general Kisnapili, Anatolian warlords Madyattes (Madduwatta) and Kupanta-Kurunta, and the first major conflict between Mycenaean civilization and Hittite empire.
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@mikecavallaro466
@mikecavallaro466 2 жыл бұрын
This is the period of history when the classic gods of mythology were born.
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын
Dman you must be the only one covering these events massive respect
@sprc155
@sprc155 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Today, the Northwest province of Peloponnese, Elis, is split into two with the south still called Elis and the north, Achaea. However, the root province of the Achaeans is Argolis (northeast), with its old capital Mycenae. The capital later changed to Argos, which is also the root place of the dynasty of Alexander the Great.
@HistorywithCy
@HistorywithCy 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, so this is great... I've read a little bit about possible contacts between the Hittites and Mycenaeans and supposed letters between the two from the archives at Hattusa, but never came across something like this with such great detail, maps and machinimas. This is honestly a great video, thanks so much for creating this and shedding light to this extremely interesting by mostly unknown history. I mean, we've all heard of the Trojan War, but most don't know the real history of Bronze Age Greece and the nature of their presence in western Anatolia. Looking forward to the next one!
@WanaxTV
@WanaxTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, really appreciate the support! Yes, I have a collection of those letters. Basically all the Hittite correspondence concerning or mentioning the Achaeans that I could find. There will definitely be more videos concerning this topic!
@JackAnna2024
@JackAnna2024 3 жыл бұрын
@@WanaxTV, are the Acheans specifically mentioned, or do you refer to a name that sounds similar?
@deuratusanimatedhistory10
@deuratusanimatedhistory10 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that you do it all by yourself is impressive, it looks really good.
@WanaxTV
@WanaxTV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I really appreciate it! I've just seen the videos listed on your channel and I will for sure check them out!
@seanzibonanzi64
@seanzibonanzi64 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that according to Hittite records, the Achaeans had 100 chariots in this army and scholars think it may have ended in a duel as only 1 casualty from each side is recorded
@LouAlvis
@LouAlvis Жыл бұрын
very very interestied in the Luwians, who seem to have survived the collapse
@beowulfaegirsson4362
@beowulfaegirsson4362 10 ай бұрын
I really like your summary about the bronze Age expansion of Acheans in Anatolia but could you tell more about the sources enabling to tell this story please ?
@TheDrownedEarth
@TheDrownedEarth 22 күн бұрын
These videos tend to mix mythology with pre-history in a way that is highly misleading, and present a lot of things which are very poorly attested or hotly debated by scholars as fact. They create a nice narrative, but give a really inaccurate representation of what we know. Presenting Acresus as a historical figure rather than a mythological one is just one example of a very misleading presentation here.
@beowulfaegirsson4362
@beowulfaegirsson4362 22 күн бұрын
@@TheDrownedEarth Thanks for your comment about History accuracy, but at the same time can we really neglect the fact that in the depth of myths or ancient traditions there is still a basis taken from the reality... ?
@Bogey1022
@Bogey1022 3 жыл бұрын
Bro... ... So immersing, interesting
@WanaxTV
@WanaxTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother. I appreciate the support! Soon enough I'll make a poll on some ideas for future videos!
@vonzuchter
@vonzuchter 3 жыл бұрын
All our legends and myths come from this era but most Greeks know nothing about this era. Classic and Hellenistic Greek history dominate our school system. Bronze age was covered in a few chapters in the sixth grade when I was at school. After this nothing.
@WanaxTV
@WanaxTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dimitrios for stepping by! There will be definitely more videos on this era, especially since it doesn't get much coverage. All the best!
@Jippa_33
@Jippa_33 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I can’t believe it took me this long to find ur channel. Glad I’m here 🎉
@silentbullet2023
@silentbullet2023 2 ай бұрын
great job bro, well told.
@weltvonalex
@weltvonalex Жыл бұрын
This was very interesting!
@egillskallagrimson5879
@egillskallagrimson5879 Жыл бұрын
could you please include in the description the bibliographic sources? that would be like the cherry on top of the pie👍
@vangeliatsihlakis7146
@vangeliatsihlakis7146 3 жыл бұрын
SO INTERESTING ISSUE! THANKS, A LOT! I APPRECIATE SO PRESIOUS INFORMATION!
@adriancarrazco6829
@adriancarrazco6829 3 жыл бұрын
These vedios are awesome. Everyone in the world should know this, of the Great Hittites
@thewolf-sb3mq
@thewolf-sb3mq 2 жыл бұрын
You have such a gentle voice ..this video is so informing .. can you make a video of the history of ancient Greece..like its first settlers
@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319
@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319 Жыл бұрын
At last, I was hoping you'd bring up Attarsiya ❤
@douglaskingsman2565
@douglaskingsman2565 Жыл бұрын
Vast speculation & extrapolation from known facts here, but I have to admit the manner in which the dots were connected is both possible & satisfying. So it *could* have happened just this way.
@virginias.poston4308
@virginias.poston4308 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, but I tell my students they should include their sources of information. Could you include a list of where you found the translated Hittite documents? Are there any other historical documents that you used? I would like to share this with my students.
@WanaxTV
@WanaxTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! One of the best sources for this would be the Indictment of Maduwatta. It's covered in a book "Ahhiyawa Texts" by Gary M. Beckman.
@590730115
@590730115 5 ай бұрын
It seems that Achaeans prefer to make weapon almost similar to weapons of King Hittite of Hatustusa/Ahhiyawa,the three holes at the base of King's sword.That's two holes at the base of my Achaeans copper/bronze Tongue-like sword.
@morriganmhor5078
@morriganmhor5078 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. But I wonder what of this is supported by some documents and what is your hypothesis?
@minka866
@minka866 Жыл бұрын
Hitites documentos only
@TheRealTomahawk
@TheRealTomahawk Жыл бұрын
Who was the king of Mycenae in 1450 BC, who sent a delegation or who went to meet with Thutmose III? Was it King Abas?
@JackAnna2024
@JackAnna2024 Жыл бұрын
What is a Colflict?
@constantinuslefug2874
@constantinuslefug2874 Жыл бұрын
What are your sources for this conflict?
@Linduine
@Linduine Жыл бұрын
Hittite cuneiform tablets
@TheDrownedEarth
@TheDrownedEarth 22 күн бұрын
You're dealing with such interesting subject matter. But this information is HIGHLY speculative. It's a real shame that your desire to present a coherent narrative overshadows your desire to present the subject accurately. At the very least you should state your sources clearly, and clearly label speculation as speculation rather than fact. I enjoy your videos and you're doing a great job with the production values. I can see that a lot of effort goes into them.
@spartanlion2819
@spartanlion2819 2 жыл бұрын
That Madyattes guy must have been the most treacherous coward of that time lol. Running away and backstabbing ALL his neighborhood.
@kameraldbahrul3432
@kameraldbahrul3432 Жыл бұрын
Wait , isnt war in middle east and aegean is dominated by chariot warfare and rarely pure infantry battles?
@JesusRocksTryPrayin
@JesusRocksTryPrayin 11 ай бұрын
Knossos looks and reminds me of gnosis.. weird :D
@antoniodaguiar392
@antoniodaguiar392 Жыл бұрын
Lykia?????
@whyukraine
@whyukraine Ай бұрын
please create a playlist of all your videos together.
@gyulaerdei3180
@gyulaerdei3180 3 ай бұрын
Ki van ... Előtte...korábban ..... ..... Ki az őse..... ? :)
@oskareriksson2202
@oskareriksson2202 3 жыл бұрын
And after this video, and the other about the mycenaean society, it's time to open up laptop, and put up a coastal raid on the Anatolian coast in bronze age TW. (ROME 1, not the mod for Rome 2 where only custom battles are available). Or maybe against the northern villages? Only poor peoples live there, few gold, but are a good source of slaves. An easy prey, the Asian cities are well defended instead. Whatever area I will raid, it's clear that we all hate the hittites here. 😂
@HAIRDAM
@HAIRDAM 2 жыл бұрын
𒄩 𒌅 𒃾 𒊭 𒀫𒀸𒋩
@Linduine
@Linduine Жыл бұрын
I am impressed
@HAIRDAM
@HAIRDAM Жыл бұрын
𒆗𒃲𒇺𒄙𒈤 𒄣𒄯 𒄭𒆪𒌌𒂊𒊭
@sprc155
@sprc155 Жыл бұрын
Linear A?
@Linduine
@Linduine Жыл бұрын
@@sprc155 Cuneiform
@sak594
@sak594 11 ай бұрын
​@sprc155 no Google translate 😅
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