Wanda and Stephen Deserved Better - Doctor Strange in The Multiverse of Madness - Fix It

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Jay and Adam react, review, riff, and rewrite the sequel to two Marvel properties, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.
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@macfine
@macfine 17 күн бұрын
The only real fix it needs is to make it more clear that the darkhold had corrupted Wanda in her search for her kids, and was influencing her. That seems to be the most missed aspect
@AlbertoMartinez765
@AlbertoMartinez765 17 күн бұрын
But its NOT, unless you have your head up your But, Steven Literally says this when he see's Wanda has been studying the Book.
@macfine
@macfine 17 күн бұрын
@@AlbertoMartinez765 a lot of people don't seem to get it though from my travels on the web. Wanda isnt the villain the darkhold is.
@zippomage
@zippomage 17 күн бұрын
@@macfine that's a dismissal i don't feel is fair. There was an entire series to redeem her as a person, and this movie was like "no she's just a murder machine" it's dumb. period.
@TheKrazyguy75
@TheKrazyguy75 17 күн бұрын
I disagree. The issue was that it just doesn't make sense, story wise. Wanda had an entire series about letting go. Having a magical mcguffin go "and now she's undone all of that off screen" is bad writing no matter what. Not to mention the ultimate lesson learned is the literal exact same one that Wanda learns in Wandavision. No, I think the better setup would have been to simply have it be a different dimension's wanda.
@thedefinitionisthis
@thedefinitionisthis 17 күн бұрын
@@TheKrazyguy75 But even then, despite "Wandavision" essentially being this journey about her letting go, the very ending of the series showed her already becoming corrupted by the Darkhold, and being thrown this lifeline by the essentially the Multiverse. No matter how you slice it or how the show was trying to frame things, Wanda is absolutely the villain of "Wandavision." As brief as the outcome seemed, I personally felt her being the villain in "Multiverse of Madness" was a logical progression.
@scailliet
@scailliet 17 күн бұрын
My biggest issue with this movie wasn't that Wanda was the main villain, but that it was OUR Wanda that was the main villain. It should have been a variant of her who had given in fully to the Darkhold. Thus serving as a cautionary tale for our Wanda, to inspire her to continue on her healing path that she began at the end of WandaVision.
@thedefinitionisthis
@thedefinitionisthis 17 күн бұрын
Eh, I think it was the bolder choice to have "our" Wanda be the villain. Scarlet Witch in the comics is very much a wild card, in that while she can stand alongside the heroes of the Marvel Universe, she is also capable of causing the most damage to everyone because of the scale and scope of her powers. I liked that they finally were leaning towards that in the MCU. Hell, I don't care how "Wandavision" was trying to frame things in terms of her dealing with her guilt, or how Monica was sympathetic to her loss; Wanda was without question THE villain of that series. The people of Westview rightfully looked at her as a monster. While she might have come to accept her loss by series end, that very series also ended with her clearly becoming corrupted by the Darkhold which was already established to be a hazardous relic to study within the MCU. My only gripe was that her arc within the movie didn't end in a satisfying manner. While things can be left up in the air, there was nothing in the film to suggest as such.
@dreamwalker2865
@dreamwalker2865 15 күн бұрын
She is helped Hydra and Ultron commit crimes for world terrorism, brainwashed the hulk to rampage on South Africa city, and enslaved and brainwashed Westview. She is more of a villain than a hero.
@JsnMil
@JsnMil 17 күн бұрын
The way they treated America was the same like how they treated Riri in Black Panther, and that celestial in Eternals - has huge potential effect in the MCU as a whole, but was just used as a plot device then dropped and never mentioned again. Bummer
@DarthTingleBinks
@DarthTingleBinks 16 күн бұрын
What? Just because we haven't seen them again within a few years means Marvel just dropped them never brought them back? How do you have that thought and think it makes sense?
@jack_rabbit
@jack_rabbit 17 күн бұрын
all the work that was done on wanda to build her up and this film just makes her a straight up villain. she somehow magically unlearns all that she learned from wandavision... but if teenagers think its sick that she being all evil and shit, then sure whatever raimi and feige, you know best right?
@AlbertoMartinez765
@AlbertoMartinez765 17 күн бұрын
Wanda is mentally unstable, she always has been, and messing with the Darkholde always leads to Bad news as It actively corrupts you which Steven tells Wanda, her Chaos Magic makes her mentally Unstable as well. Its Why she the Villain of several Marvel story arcs from House of M to the Whole No More Mutants Saga. Same story with Jean Gray and the Phoenix Force. Mortals aren't capable of handling that Kind of Power and NOIT going Crazy.
@jack_rabbit
@jack_rabbit 17 күн бұрын
@@AlbertoMartinez765 yeah but its shit character building though, to tear down everything you worked towards with a character. NOW she is ACTUALLY unlikeable and unredeemable. sorry, i don't buy into the book mcguffin... she knowingly straight up murdered people. i can no longer sympathize w her bullshit. great job marvel.
@christianmichael3120
@christianmichael3120 17 күн бұрын
Good though, that’s real life. Not everything ends in smiles and happiness for people, most often the opposite. I also don’t see how Wandavision is meant to “redeem” her as that show basically just showed how mentally insane she really is to magically enslave an entire town, and by the end when she loses Vision *again* and her fake kids, that’s when she snaps. She became the villain by the end of Wandavision, when we literally see her reading the darkhold. There was no instant flip in MoM that everybody seems to think there was.
@Grandtheatrix
@Grandtheatrix 17 күн бұрын
I would LOVE a Wanda given the X-Men '97 Magneto treatment.The Darkhold might have manipulated her and amplified what was there but it's bad and boring character writing to make it entirely the Darkholds fault. I would love to watch her go on this rampage having justified every step that led her to this moment so that in the moment, while you are horrified, you also understand how she got there and have to ask yourself if you would have done different. That's not what we got. And the REAL tragedy is that it was perfectly set up to be exactly that, but they just... Didn't. Didn't use it, didn't care about it. It's infuriating.
@daltonmeadesmith
@daltonmeadesmith 17 күн бұрын
They took a risk with Wanda, and it beyond worked for me. The moment I realized that she was actually the main antagonist since the beginning sent chills down my spine. I love it when a movie manipulates me like that. The seeds were all planted in WandaVision. She was a lonely fugitive who lacked a support system and felt vilified by the world. Add in the new sense of self bestowed upon her by Agatha, and we've got a perfect storm. The final confrontation between Wanda and Monica becomes infinitely more powerful after watching MoM. MoM actually made me reassess the WandaVision finale because the film enhances it in hindsight. There's also an entire year gap in the timeline, which I wish they addressed in the film.
@macfine
@macfine 17 күн бұрын
I understand the criticism of Wanda having her growth undone... But the truth is people often fall back into old patterns, old flaws, repeat old mistakes . That's a very real thing
@crimsonghoul8983
@crimsonghoul8983 17 күн бұрын
In my opinion, the movie doesn't establish that Wanda is regressing. At least not in an appealing way. You often see Wanda missing her kids, when in fact she should be missing both her kids AND Vision. Also, from a person who started opening up the Hex when she realized she was harming civilians, to then start killing people who are essentially protecting themselves and their world, that kind of shift is jarring when there is no context behind it other than "Yeah, the darkhold corrupted her".
@Grandtheatrix
@Grandtheatrix 17 күн бұрын
You can write that, I wanted to see that, but that's not what this was. Contrast to the arc Magneto gets in X-Men '97. We get to watch him try every step of the way, showing restraint with the insurrectionists, inviting Rogue to rule Genosha with him to have someone whose superpower is empathy to balance him. And then Genosha happens, and he is done. I want that for Wanda. I WANT to watch her kill the Illuminati, but have her point of view look as justified as Both Cap and Starks point of views looked in Civil War. They know how to do this, but just didn't. Wanda started this movie The Bad Guy. Boring. Badly written. If the story is Wanda getting corrupted by the Darkhold, I wanna watch her Fight and then Get corrupted by the Darkhold, not start the movie with all that having happened Off Screen.
@crimsonghoul8983
@crimsonghoul8983 17 күн бұрын
@@Grandtheatrix This. Thank you.
@artloveranimation
@artloveranimation 16 күн бұрын
The people making Doctor Strange 2 had NO CLUE and just didn't care at all about the purpose of WandaVision.
@nickk1424
@nickk1424 17 күн бұрын
The biggest problem with all these good characters turned evil is that they DON'T lay the groundwork properly. Wanda's turn to villiany was like Daenerys turn to madness. Rushed and nonsensical. Compare them to Willow Rosenberg (BTVS) during her Dark Willow reign of terror. The audience had six years to identify with Willow, her strengths and more importantly, her FLAWS. One of them being her overconfidence and her over indulgence in her magic. Willow wasn't stupid or foolish, but rather cocky and ego driven. They hinted at this through multiple seasons so it wasn't surprising when she snapped after 1. Been through months of magical rehab. 2. Had the love of her life (Tara) be killed in front of her. 3. Her inability to properly let go of her anger after Warren was killed. Simply put, Willow's fall from grace was perfectly planned. Wanda's and Daenery's was half done and poorly execeuted. Setup is important people. Otherwise the story flops.
@Grandtheatrix
@Grandtheatrix 17 күн бұрын
YES! THIS! ALL OF THIS!
@TheKrazyguy75
@TheKrazyguy75 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, this. Chekov's gun doesn't exactly work when the gun isn't shown on screen until the moment it is used.
@wtimmins
@wtimmins 15 күн бұрын
Also Wanda's villainy was like a seesaw. They kept trying to pitch her being sympathetic after she had straight up murdered bunches of people. Uh, no. You can't jump to genocide and then try to be coy about it.
@edgarcia4794
@edgarcia4794 17 күн бұрын
Wanda Vision was a good enough wrap up. I would have liked Wanda to instead go off with America Chavez through the multiverse to find her parents and a reality Wanda can be with her sons that need and will love her.
@AlbertoMartinez765
@AlbertoMartinez765 17 күн бұрын
I mean Yeah there has to be a Universe that has a Wanda that Died and her kids need a Mother.
@DarthTingleBinks
@DarthTingleBinks 15 күн бұрын
Anson Mount is not only the actor who portrayed Blackbolt in both Inhumans and Multiverse of Madness, but he DID, in fact, play Christopher Pike in Discovery Season 2, a few of episodes of Short Treks, and is currently playing him in Strange New Worlds.
@FrankWilliams-wi8zs
@FrankWilliams-wi8zs 17 күн бұрын
Raimi and Waldron were right thinking that Wanda as a villain would be box office gold. However storywise, it is problematic. Also it would have been even bigger box-o9ffice having her go up against the Avengers in something like Civil War. Also the problem is that they refuse to do a Scarlet Witch solo movie which could conclude WandaVision. She is a popular character yet they have nowhere to put her in.
@tomimdawodu6808
@tomimdawodu6808 17 күн бұрын
The movie needed fixing in the story, even Elizabeth her self took shots at the writers and Sam rami for not watching Wanda vision to PROPERLY continue the story of Wanda. At the end of WV when Wanda was using the Dark Hold, she heard her kids CRY for help that’s what motivated her to find them ! in the movie they easily could’ve had the story be Wanda Tearing through the multiverse because she needs find her kids because they are in DANGER not because she can’t let them go but she’s being manipulated by the dark hold to some bigger threat or plot ! through Wanda tearing through the multiverse causing damage and starting incursions that causes a disturbance that Dr strange detects and it starts to effect the 616 universe and that’s what brings in the Illuminati! To interfere and stop this 616 Wanda ! ( also you can add in the Illuminati had to stop a different Wanda before because she killed all the mutants which almost destroyed the multiverse and any form of the Scarlett witch is a OMEGA LEVEL THREAT ) there’s you plot to the movie !
@Grandtheatrix
@Grandtheatrix 17 күн бұрын
I literally wrote a few scenes that fix this. You can fix this movie by massaging 3 scenes: when Strange and Wanda first meet in the Orchard, the attack on Khamar Taj and the Illuminati trial scene. Wanda hearing her children's screams is so much a better motivation than her just wanting her kids back. And that's what WandaVision set up. I don't know Why or How they just Chose to do something else that was Worse.
@jasonstrickland9245
@jasonstrickland9245 17 күн бұрын
Jay I love you buddy but I am with Adam on this one. There are conservation efforts like the Irwin Zoo, and while they do make money the zoo isn't exploitive. The problem is that many are expliotive and only out for money. Any who haven't I applaud them, but too many have crossed that line.
@dreadpirate677
@dreadpirate677 17 күн бұрын
I'm lucky enough to live near the National Zoo in Washington, D.C. That's a good example of a zoo that does some very good work and it is free to everyone. I get that they're not all like that, though.
@hayvenb
@hayvenb 17 күн бұрын
Zoos are weird. A decade or so ago, in New Orleans Audubon Zoo is right next to Audubon park, which is just a regular city park but not part of the zoo but still next to it. My friend and I decided to smoke weed in the park and listen to music. Probably Marley or Floyd or something chill, I can't remember. Then we look up and see 3 giraffe heads staring at us, and if im going to be honest....we might have been just high, or they might have been just vibing but we were all in it. I always thought it was weird the zoo didnt have security for that though, if we were bad people we could have done some harm. But then again what psycho would want to harm a giraffe for gods sake. Crazy experience I'll never forget though.
@ryangarner7721
@ryangarner7721 8 күн бұрын
Congrats on the most successful episode of Fix It! on the main channel ever (and also almost in all, just 100 under the Spider-Man 3 fix on the old channel)
@rl-cx6kf
@rl-cx6kf 17 күн бұрын
They did such an incredible job of building Wanda up for so many years only to absolutely torpedo the character and flip a switch with 'oh, she's now evil and how typical of a woman.' It felt like misogyny to me.
@ecrulis6954
@ecrulis6954 17 күн бұрын
Yeah the complete erasure of Wandas character development from Wandavision was so so so frustrating
@wtimmins
@wtimmins 15 күн бұрын
I don't normally get angry at movie choices. This made me really angry, combined with all the other problems. And extra when it turns out they just didn't bother to review WandaVision. like... what?
@Blinkptx
@Blinkptx 17 күн бұрын
I love -good- zoos, but I've been to a couple of zoos and aquariums that were a little shady. Depends on how the animals are aquired, contained, and treated. I'm not a fan of seeing elephants, primates, octopi, dolphins, and whales. Basically, anything considered to be really intelligent. Especially if their enclosures are too small.
@macfine
@macfine 17 күн бұрын
The guy asking him about it being the only way...wasn't just a random guy. It was his rival dr from the first movie
@mrmikeshea
@mrmikeshea 16 күн бұрын
TRUE STORY: the Riverbanks Zoo in Columbia, SC has a prairie dog exhibit by the big outdoor food court. It’s behind a wall of glass so you can see their little tunnels and watch them play while you eat with your kids. You can also feed giraffes. And that’s awesome.
@k3n12ock
@k3n12ock 17 күн бұрын
ITS .. PREVIEW'D!!!!!!!!!!!!
@celadore
@celadore 16 күн бұрын
Mordo thinking the problem is too many sorcerers and Strange thinking only he can hold the knife. The only way either can be saved is for them to learn to trust and lean on others.
@kevenpinder7025
@kevenpinder7025 17 күн бұрын
Years ago I had a coworker who was a deep dive Harry Potter fan. As part of her honeymoon, they went to the Harry Potter theme park in Florida. Of course, they went to Ollivanders, only to find that they were ALL OUT OF WANDS. How effed up is that. Whatever interest I had ever had in going floated away like a fart in the breeze.
@galmorzu
@galmorzu 17 күн бұрын
I would argue that Jay should add that some zoos are better than others and not all animals have it Good. I was at a place here in Atlanta last year with a porcupine standing and just swaying back and forth against the glass over and over. Parents and their kids were dancing in front of it and laughing thinking it was was silly. When I got closer, the porcupine’s nose was rubbed so raw on the glass it was actually smearing its own blood across the glass. And all the mulch in the ground under where it was moving back and forth was actually moved around it was just bare plastic that it was standing on (the enclosure material under the mulch they covered it with). I’ve been to some amazing zoos that treat the animals really well and are incredible experiences. But it’s important (as Jay later mentioned) that there are the places doing it for the $$$ and nothing else. Usually the smaller places.
@Clairevoyant101
@Clairevoyant101 17 күн бұрын
Jay is surprisingly informed on zoos and how important they are to conservation
@TheChiraagG
@TheChiraagG 17 күн бұрын
The fact that "Wongers" has stuck means Madisynn should be in one of the movies he's in. This is the way.
@danielchevere
@danielchevere 17 күн бұрын
Hey Jay, last week I went with my 2 year old nephew to the Bronx zoo and he had an absolute ball. It’s good to take them when they can understand what they’re seeing. He started screaming when we saw the giraffes, that’s his favorite animal.
@Atrulion
@Atrulion 17 күн бұрын
Comment on zoos: Yea, zoos often give animals a great place to live, *however* sometimes that's not the case. The one time I went to a zoo, there were penguins who were always inside in a small glass area underground with plastic blocks and a tiny water section. They never get to see sunlight, and they live in that tiny area for the rest of their lives, a tiny area which can be observed through a single photo. That to me was quite horrible. So I think this is based on personal experience. If I had only seen monkeys in trees in a big area or something like that, my opinion would be different.
@stephenmorris6590
@stephenmorris6590 15 күн бұрын
If your ever in Pittsburgh, our Zoo is awesome.
@Tcarr2080
@Tcarr2080 11 күн бұрын
I think this movie works because of Wandavision. She didnt deal with her grief. She knew she had to let go of her illusion but then, through the Darkhold, she realized "her" kids arent an illusion, they are just in another universe. Agatha had just told her there is only 1 SW in the multiverse and her being that she knows she can "protect" her kids she just kinda lost better than any other Wanda. Plus as the SW she feels a bit entitled to be as happy as lesser Wanda's. It wasnt until she saw the pain in her kids eyes... much like Vader and Luke, that she knew she had become everything she wanted to protect her kids from. Love broke the spell of the blackest magic...just like Vader breaks free from the Darkside.
@fusanomj
@fusanomj 17 күн бұрын
My wife almost walked out of the theater she hated this movie so much. I was torn because it had all the characters I loved and loved them in their previous movies, but this movie felt like a cartoon joke or something. I felt like I should like it because of the characters but thought it was a cheesy horror, comic book movie mess
@misterderp4566
@misterderp4566 17 күн бұрын
Hotchie motchie, I have a story or two about the Vienna Zoo. If y'all ask I'll send the photos I have of the tiger (who was acting like a kitten) and the jaguar (who was definitely not). Or the Calgary Zoo, where there's a whole dinosaur park and ELEPHANTS. (The correct answer to any animal question is "elephant"). You can go right up to them and pet them and everything!
@Rated314
@Rated314 17 күн бұрын
Okay... hear me out. Dr. Strange comes in 1 of 2 flavors, either ordinary and good or a sorceror and evil. The movie opens with Wanda approaching strange, "What do you know about the multiverse?" and she hands him the Darkholde. The impetus? Wanda knows that her kids are out there, because she can hear them, but needs Strange's help on how to figure it out. This gives us some universe hopping for Strange and Wanda... where they are popping into the other versions of themselves, with no control... but gradually gaining more and more. We start seeing the pattern of magical Stranges are always thirsting for more and darker powers, while the ordinary Stranges are well adjusted and at the center of community. When we leap into the baddest Strange who is trying in the middle of trying to unalive America, to steal her power in order to gain the power to physically jump between realities. This in essences Starks Strange... he's terrified of that Strange and starts pouring into the Darkholde to learn a way of defeating him... This is where Wanda leans back into what she learned in Wandavision about how holding on too tight perverts you in ways that you can't see amd before you know it, you are what you're trying to stop. As Strange is diving further down the rabbithole, this is when America pops in now shes trying to unalive Strange... informing the audience that if he has magic, he is the bad and Wanda makes the plea that it isn't too late and they can save him... using her WV character growth to make the argument. Wanda basically acting as spoiler in the fight between Strange and America, fighting both, trying to restrain both. Final act, we see Strange becoming the Evilest 3rd Eye Strange... and now we are on that heroes journey of Strange learning the lesson to cement that he is the only Magical and Good Strange, leading to him fighting to separate himself from being entangled with Evil him... and then we get the big battle at the end with Evil Strange vs Strange, America, and Wanda.
@TimGildersleeve
@TimGildersleeve 17 күн бұрын
psst: Wanda's heel turn was the best and scariest part of this movie.
@JonathanMartinez-ei4up
@JonathanMartinez-ei4up 17 күн бұрын
Tell me more about this Vlistarian Zoo. I’m imagining with the knowledge that Vlistaria has a pact with Cthulhu that the Zoo’s wild life population is probably buck wild. Sure, you have the traditional animal attractions we all know and love…But, if Hellboy has taught me anything, there’s certainly a lot of Frog-Men. Many deep sea creatures in the ponds that shouldn’t be seen by the eyes of mortals, but they are. Saber-tooth lion chimeras, beetles the size of hippos, and horses of a different color.
@andrewchristian5406
@andrewchristian5406 16 күн бұрын
Red pandas and pig-lizards
@JonathanMartinez-ei4up
@JonathanMartinez-ei4up 16 күн бұрын
@@andrewchristian5406 Every animal from Avatar (TLA, and LOK)
@EchoStationWhiskey
@EchoStationWhiskey 17 күн бұрын
But she tried to burn the world down for kids she made in Sims…. That pothole stayed with me the whole film.
@TheDailySchwab
@TheDailySchwab 17 күн бұрын
If the movie was another 30 minutes it would’ve been perfect, gives you a big enough window to add more exposition/development for Stephen without detracting from the existing plot I felt most of it was good just needed more breathing room
@chaosowner4507
@chaosowner4507 17 күн бұрын
The post credit scene needs to take place in the Bluey universe
@darrekstorkson2528
@darrekstorkson2528 17 күн бұрын
Jay said Bowling Alley Food!!!!!
@Heritage367
@Heritage367 17 күн бұрын
This is probably my least favorite MCU film, although Love and Thunder might be worse. Interested to see how you guys FIX IT!
@Phantom_Fireside
@Phantom_Fireside 17 күн бұрын
Fricken same
@fortworthteacherlaffiteau862
@fortworthteacherlaffiteau862 17 күн бұрын
I agree and want to make just a few adjustments I hope you like my fixes and any suggestions(I am trying to be a better writer because I am making books) Also please please please go back to two different pitches as it leaves an opening for your joke fixes and more fun plot development. I still go back to your older fixes because they were better. Our Mordo is worried about all of this magic hopping and breaking of rules especially since Stranges last scene was him almost making an incursion for Spiderman's wish. Act 1 has a lot of other Mordo fighting Chavez in the different multiverses and each time they lose him for a second but see him at some point in our near a Sanctum The other Mordo is trying to Kill/Extract Chavez's power to start his Strange Rampage because the chaos in the multiverse is partially due to most dr stranges. Every time his Staff gets near Chavez it causes her to use her powers. 2 times this happens when Mordo sees a different Dr. strange that is approaching him or them. The 5 Universe the illumanati and 2 Mordo start fighting our team midway through the fight they turn on Other Mordo when they find out Other Mordo tricked illumanati to being on their side. Other Mordo should have by now found a weapon that can absorb magic and memories as to make sure our Dr. Strange and Chavez will not regain their magic that he used on Illumanti Mordo. Illumanati pull in their magic people to send all visitors back to Dr. Stranges world and say that they have band all of them from doing multiversal travel as they don't trust Strange or Mordo now. Act 2 is other Mordo is in a Sanctum Prison cell chatting with Our Mordo who is guarding him. Our Mordo sees his point but just wants to have an uneventful universe that stays out of all the magic universe breaking fights and if that means eliminating sorcerers then fine. "Chavez I must thank you for letting me see so many universes before my access to the multiverse was restricted." It becomes apparent that other Mordo wanted to be captured because of magical items that he had left in other multiverses Sanctrum cause massive chaos and give him a way out and a few magical being to assist. Act 3 Our magic people (Wong Wanda Strange and trainees) vs Mordo"s team and you can guess who wins. At the end Our Mordo is in charge of decommisioning other Mordo's items and chooses to kill other Mordo with it because sending Mordo home leaves a chance for the news of our universe to spread and everyone would be better off with less magic travel and less magic in this universe.Other Mordo should have by now found a weapon that can absorb magic and memories as to make sure our Dr. Strange and Chavez will not regain their magic.
@ArtByDesign80
@ArtByDesign80 17 күн бұрын
Got distracted, then wondered how they got into a 14 minute discussion about Zoos. Lol
@andrewchristian5406
@andrewchristian5406 16 күн бұрын
It was the roll for convo this week.
@Drakoni23
@Drakoni23 17 күн бұрын
Love your fix. For me the MCU is at its best when it's characters. That's why I like Iron Man 3, because we get to spend time with Tony Stark the engineer, not just the suits. Even if it has some issues. My favourite Avengers scenes are the heroes doing mundane things and talking. But this way actually paying off the post credit of the first one and still giving the option to set up villain Wanda. Maybe we can already see some hints of Wanda using the darkhold. Just using some powers we haven't seen before or that seem off. Instead of it being an offscreen 0 to 100 change.
@danieldavis2347
@danieldavis2347 17 күн бұрын
Zoos are great. Adam's concerns should be targeted towards Sea World. Sea World is horrible. My favorite animals at the zoo are the polar bears and the otters.
@kevenpinder7025
@kevenpinder7025 17 күн бұрын
Boy, did they ever.
@SS-rk2me
@SS-rk2me 17 күн бұрын
I couldn't figure out why you were discussing Zeus!?? 🤦🏻‍♀️
@bluejaysforever3627
@bluejaysforever3627 17 күн бұрын
I really liked this film
@jpbenson99
@jpbenson99 17 күн бұрын
That's comics... Characters get handed off to different writers who have their own ideas for them than the previous. Michael Waldron said that making Wanda a villain was a "selfish decision" because she's his favorite villain/anti hero and he wanted to write her being a villain and having Sam Raimi as director encouraged that decision. I saw it as Wanda dealt with her grief of Vision but that got replaced with new grief in the form of her children "dying" and I could tell from the WV post credit scene that she originally read the darkhold to learn about herself and she clearly believed that she could resist the darkness but everyone gets corrupted eventually. Wandavision takes place 3 weeks from Endgame and M.O.M takes place 6 months after EG. A lot can happen to a person even in that "short" amount of time. I personally liked this movie I call it one of Marvel's "bangers" along with Black Widow, Shang Chi, and Spiderman from phase 4
@dennisbay3035
@dennisbay3035 17 күн бұрын
I think the problem that the awsome WandVision show created.. is everybody loved Wanda.. so.. although she may have been a super baddie in the comics.. Turning the Wanda that the TV show created to evil did sit well for many. Maybe if they added in a bit more of her journey to the dark side it would have been better.
@Pathfinder-jk7gh
@Pathfinder-jk7gh 16 күн бұрын
@dennisbay3035 Except that she is a hero during most of her time in the comics, isn’t she? Yeah, I know about House of M and M-Day, but aren’t those the literal worst moments of her character in the entire history she has? I think the problem is that a lot of it could’ve been better in the movie if they actually expanded on the Darkhold and the author as neither of them are something to scoff at, except that is literally what the movie seemed to do. Instead of having a prominent role as a Ring of Power type item or Chthon’s influence being similar to Reaper Indoctrination, we got a few throwaway lines that doesn’t tell us much at all and the movie doesn’t show much either. Yeah, I agree that Wanda was one of the villains of WandaVision, but she also clearly stated that her only goal for the future was to make sure she didn’t lose control again. As she was at the end of the show, Wanda wouldn’t have done what she did in MoM as it goes against key parts of her character at that point. They even threw out the idea of her trying to find Billy and Tommy because she thought they were alive and in danger, as we see when she hears them calling out to her.
@bbanner2356
@bbanner2356 15 күн бұрын
As awesome as Spiderman No Way Home was, you should fix that as well. I want the og villains to actually talk to og Spiderman, like that would be emotionally better. Sure we got Doc Oc ask8jg Peter how he's been BUT Green Goblin messed up Peter the whole trilogy. I feel like it would've been awesome to see the horror on both Peter when he sees him after all these years, and Norman when he founds out what Goblin has done not only to Peter, but to his son Harry.
@andrewchristian5406
@andrewchristian5406 17 күн бұрын
Steak Count: 1 Steak 🥩
@wtimmins
@wtimmins 15 күн бұрын
All the fights and action sequences the guys like... I don't, mainly because stylistically they just jumped way off from what had appeared in all the previous shows. It's part of a broad pattern of having absolutely no concern or respect for being part of a larger property.
@TheWindwall
@TheWindwall 17 күн бұрын
Washingtonian here. I miss the pandas. 😢
@noteasybeingweezy
@noteasybeingweezy 17 күн бұрын
The secret of the cheese is that you buy the canned nacho cheese sauce and mix in a can of Rotell
@michaelstevenson4081
@michaelstevenson4081 17 күн бұрын
Sorry guys, Agatha has The Dark Hold in WandaVision and uses it on Wanda. Wanda takes it even knowing the outcome of the small town she just mind washed. It's a selfish act, she just leaves Westview and practices dark magic in the apple orchard.
@Pathfinder-jk7gh
@Pathfinder-jk7gh 16 күн бұрын
@michaelstevenson4081 Wanda only took the Darkhold because it was the only thing that had not only information on who she is or her magic, but also on the prophecy of the Scarlet Witch. That is the only reason she took it; to understand and control her powers so that something like Westview wouldn’t happen again and to keep that very same prophecy from coming true. What was she supposed to do? Turn herself in when someone like Ross is clearly still in charge? She’d be lucky if all he did was put her in a medically induced coma for the rest of her life, considering both what he used to contain her when she was maybe 25% as powerful and that it would be one of the few things he could do given her power level after Westview. Or he could just skip all of that and just execute her, but that would mean him voluntarily giving up a weapon he could use himself.
@thatbigdudewithglassesmusi6796
@thatbigdudewithglassesmusi6796 17 күн бұрын
Philadelphia represent!!!!
@gabrielleroux2333
@gabrielleroux2333 14 күн бұрын
I’m the opposite of many fans, I really liked this movie, with the exception of the “music fight” which I think was the worst part of the film, and the second most “wtf” moment in all of MCU , just behind Bao, god of dumpling 🙄
@Fantasyremix
@Fantasyremix 17 күн бұрын
I'm curious what you guys are about to say, because almost every aspect of this movie is horrendous. Bad directing, bad writing, bad editing, bad acting, everyone looks like $%&#, they skipped over Doctor Strange 2 and went straight to Doctor Strange 3, everything was truly awful.
@davygravy5802
@davygravy5802 17 күн бұрын
finally nice to see someone acknowledging this garbage movie. It was my most anticipated movie, more so than No Way Home, and when watching it my face was blank the entire time. That’s when my love for the MCU ended. I still like everything before, but since that film i’ve stopped caring about any new installations. Even Deadpool & Wolverine can’t hype me up enough to spark that fire back
@TheKrazyguy75
@TheKrazyguy75 17 күн бұрын
Agreed. I think it kinda killed the MCU for me. There's a lot of other MCU films that I found underwhelming, but this was the first one where I actively wished it had been deleted. Like, sure, Thor Love and Thunder had a ton of stupid moments... but at the end of the day, it's not a huge issue to move on from it. But this literally kills off Wanda; any attempt to move on from this will be a literal retcon. It's literal character assassination; she dead.
@alexkramerblogs
@alexkramerblogs 17 күн бұрын
Fix it!
@neodigremo
@neodigremo 17 күн бұрын
The best way to fix it….. drop all of the multiverse stuff from the MCU and never touch it again. Multiverse stuff is terrible. Hell dimensions like Dormammu or the mirror dimension can work but not a multiverse. Do that and half the problem is sorted
@legionkahn
@legionkahn 17 күн бұрын
Everyone keeps saying the ruined Wanda because she delt with her grief in Wandavusion. She didn't. She enslaved a whole town then only released them when she had too. At the end of the show she was still obsessed with her imaginary children and was using the most evil book in creation to achive ger goals. The Wanda in this movie is the logic result of all het past decisions. Her brother was dead. Her lover was dead. Her imaginary children were gone. She was totally off her rocker.
@Pathfinder-jk7gh
@Pathfinder-jk7gh 16 күн бұрын
@legionkahn Except that she didn’t have to. Given her status and power as the Scarlet Witch, she didn’t have to give up anything in Westview or she could’ve just kept the Hex up around her house if she really wanted to. There were many options available to her on keeping her life in Westview and she didn’t choose any of them, choosing to let that life go. She gave her family up to free Westview from her magic and they were real given that she is literally altering reality. They had minds and souls of their own, they were not following a script. Her taking the Darkhold was an attempt to make sure she wouldn’t lose control again along with wanting to prevent the Scarlet Witch prophecy, why wouldn’t she focus more on those instead of the drama queen title? The reason she started looking for Billy and Tommy again is that she heard them calling out to her meaning that she believed they were still alive somewhere and that they were in danger. All of that from the show is dropped by the MoM writers because they wanted to make her a complete villain with only a few throwaway lines about the Darkhold or its author that show/tell very little.
@AlexsonP
@AlexsonP 15 күн бұрын
Good cinematography. Easily the best in the MCU. Decent Raimi effort but a sign of a man just beginning to flex his muscles while working with the machine. Script was bad.
@legaultrants
@legaultrants 16 күн бұрын
With much love and respect to everyone.... animals should not live in captivity and animals born in captivity (ex ones born through zoo breeding programs) can not go into the wild (ya know where they belong). They are caged and live their lives to be looked at by humans. If you want conservation. It's not zoos. It's wildlife sanctuaries. And even that kinda sucks. All these are captured animals (or offspring of) that people took (usually) far from their homes/natural habitat to live in cages. It's animal prison. It's sad and gross, and we humans are awful for doing that... Sorry for the long tirade, I'm just really passionate about animal mistreatment... :(
@Shortyd17
@Shortyd17 13 күн бұрын
Huh?
@salmeza85
@salmeza85 17 күн бұрын
The MCU is dead. You can't fix it. Needs a full reboot. What the hell is a she hulk.
@wtimmins
@wtimmins 15 күн бұрын
I think the Illuminati folks being all summarily killed could have worked fine, it was just terribly written. And that's most of what I hate about this movie; it was really really REALLY badly written.
@justonjenkins1589
@justonjenkins1589 17 күн бұрын
Good morning fellas, I loved this movie. I wouldn't change anything
@TOTALCATCH1
@TOTALCATCH1 17 күн бұрын
It don't neet to be fixed
@tomimdawodu6808
@tomimdawodu6808 17 күн бұрын
Yes it did ! The story was super inconsistent with the story they told Wanda vision and no pay off for Dr Strange
@user-zg6cv2ek6x
@user-zg6cv2ek6x 17 күн бұрын
absolutely right!!!!!!
@slowodanx
@slowodanx 17 күн бұрын
@@tomimdawodu6808 Nope, it doesnt. Get over yourself.
@cooperhunt9797
@cooperhunt9797 17 күн бұрын
As a low-key defender of this movie, I've always thought that Raimi succeeded at giving Strange a strong personal character arc about self-discovery that feels very much like his Spider-Man movies with Tobey. Stephen's whole deal is that he's kind of a self-loathing jerk, that was a huge part of his origin & his role in Infinity War & especially No Way Home... but this movie finally confronts that and explicitly asks him "Are you happy?". Beneath the messiness of Wanda & the multiverse, there's an endearingly empathetic & campy Sam Raimi superhero movie about a man learning to be a better version of himself that he can like and be proud of, not hung up on his past or his ex, not intimidated by his possible self-destructive fate, just on the road to being happy as himself. Even though lots of stuff didn't work about this movie, it was the first & (so far) only time I've ever actually liked Stephen Strange as a character. This is a superhero and a man I can root for like our classic MCU trilogy. And yes yes yes Jay, the casual hop over the balcony with the cloak is super badass, one of the coolest moments in MCU history. Very Tobey Spider-Man!
@kevinz3905
@kevinz3905 17 күн бұрын
The movie would not make sense if WandaVision didn't happen. She didn't have children until WandaVision. Multiverse wasn't about her grief over Vision. It was about her, feeling like a villain after finally realizing she was holding a town hostage, and being possessed by the Darkhold. Sure, half the movie was about the villain, but so was Infinity War.
@kevinjohnson7631
@kevinjohnson7631 17 күн бұрын
I love you guys, but when we were 15 minutes in and we're still talking about the zoo, you lost me.
@MisterMooo
@MisterMooo 17 күн бұрын
Perfect sequel to Wandavision.
@The_Scienceboy
@The_Scienceboy 17 күн бұрын
I love you both but you are getting a bit curmudgeonly, overly negative, like you want to prove the a-hole that calls you a Disney shill wrong.
@slowodanx
@slowodanx 17 күн бұрын
Movie doesnt need fixing, so nope. Wanda was the best part about this movie.
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