21 Cringeworthy Errors in the Movie TOP GUN

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Ward Carroll

Ward Carroll

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, one of the greatest aviation movies of all time, but full of technical errors nonetheless. (I KNOW it's just Hollywood, but we care about tech details here, especially when they apply to the F-14.) Ward reviews the 21 most cringeworthy among them. WARNING: Once you watch this episode you may never view TOP GUN the same again.
1. (5:00) RIO’s radar presentation shows a 360-degree PPI presentation. Tomcat’s radar only sweeps 65 degrees either side of the nose. (Wouldn’t want a radar that pointed back at the crews. That would be a huge radiation hazard, to put it mildly.)
2. (8:00) Cougar transmits: “This bogey’s all over me. He’s got missile lock. Do I have permission to fire?” Well, whatever the ROE, the question is moot until you do some pilot shit and actually maneuver your jet into an offensive.
3. (9:01) As far as Maverick’s “4-G inverted dive” (as Charlie later labels it) goes, if the two airplanes were that close the Tomcat’s vertical stabs would be jammed into the MiG-28.
4. (9:59) Merlin taps on a fuel gauge that doesn’t exist in the rear cockpit of the F-14, only in the front cockpit. (The RIO only has a fuel totalizer.)
5. (10:06) Cougar rips his oxygen mask off to breathe more oxygen, which would be in short supply at high altitude.
6. (10:12) Cougar has a photo of his wife and baby taped over the airspeed gauge to the left of the altimeter.
7. (12:27) There’s no way Cougar wouldn’t have been waved off by the Landing Signal Officer based on that wild approach. He gets at least five “power” calls during the pass. The Air Boss would have been very unhappy with the LSO after that.
8. (12:51) Cougar traps and immediately shuts the jet down instead of taxiing out of the landing area. Maverick is still airborne, low on gas, and needs to land but can’t now because Cougar has fouled the landing area and has to be towed out of the wires.
9. (13:00) Nice stateroom for a squadron CO. (He’s an 0-5, fer crissakes.) And later in the scene he says, “You can tell me about the MiG some other time” and dismisses the crew to head for Top Gun, thereby committing professional suicide by not getting the only information that anyone above him in the chain of command would care about that particular day.
10. (16:06) “Um, tower, there’s some dork riding a motorcycle down one of the taxiways shaking his fist at us.”
11. (25:52) A hangar isn’t the most conducive place for detailed flight briefs.
12. (29:53) Smoke effect is actually the Tomcat dumping fuel . . . a stupid idea when you’re about to enter a dogfight.
13. (31:31) Maverick “hits the brakes” by pushing the throttles forward, which would increase power, not decrease it.
14. (35:52) Maverick explains, “We weren’t below the hard deck for more than a few seconds. I had the shot. There was no danger. So I took it.” The hard deck simulates the ground, so basically Maverick is saying, “We didn’t hit the ground for more than a few seconds . . .”
15. (55:31) Why is Hollywood eating an orange on the flight line?
16. (57:26) Logic of the engagement is ridiculous. Maverick lets Jester go and then flies in parade formation behind Hollywood who’s saddled in super-close behind the other bandit. Hollywood whines at Maverick not to leave him when he should just shoot the bandit right in front of him, and then Maverick leaves to go after Viper and ultimately winds up getting shot because Goose does a shitty job of looking behind them for bad guys (at 59:23).
17. (1:06:56) Goose says “Shit, we got a flameout. Engine 1 is out.” The RIO has no engine instruments in the rear cockpit of the F-14.
18. (1:07:13) Iceman transmits, “Mav’s in trouble. He’s in a flat spin and headed out to sea.” When an airplane is in a flat spin it is not heading anywhere except straight down.
19. (1:26:50) Aviators wouldn’t get orders at the Top Gun graduation. They’d get them via a frustrating process of arguing with their detailers via email and the occasional phone call over the period of a few months.
20. (1:39:47) Maverick leads a two-plane fly-by next to the carrier with a wingman that’s been riddled with bullets and most likely has sustained major damage to the hydraulic system that powers the flight controls.
21. (1:41:14) Iceman says, “You can be my wingman any time,” which ignores the fact that unless he’s the ops officer or schedule officer or squadron CO who signs the flight schedule then he just needs to suck it up and fly with whoever he’s assigned to fly with.
We’re all looking forward to TOP GUN MAVERICK and the trailer teases the idea that the F-14 might just still be part of the fighter inventory . . . we’ll have to see.
For a longer list of TOP GUN movie flaws see: www.military.com/off-duty/201...

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@markdavis3346
@markdavis3346 2 жыл бұрын
I was the controlling LSO for “Cougar’s” pass. Filmed behind Carl Vinson in W-291. The actual pilot was LT Ben Schneider from VF-51. If you watch the video he starts rocking his wings hard for Hollywood and the spoilers dumped tons of lift immediately and he started coming down like a safe, very evident in the video.I gave him one hard power call and immediately waved him off. I was seriously afraid he might hit the water. If you watch the belly camera video you can see the waveoff lights. And no, he didn’t trap on that pass.
@sitbone3
@sitbone3 3 жыл бұрын
The Navy got what they wanted. A multi, multi million dollar recruiting ad.
@sitbone3
@sitbone3 2 жыл бұрын
@MichaelKingsfordGray …what ?
@TheSwedishSalamander
@TheSwedishSalamander 2 жыл бұрын
@MichaelKingsfordGray what the fuck bro
@rockhardnipple6633
@rockhardnipple6633 2 жыл бұрын
Between Top Gun and the long running Naval tradition in my family, it hooked me too. (Grandfather, mother, father and 5 uncles all served in the Navy)
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockhardnipple6633 that sir is one hell of a tradition!
@robm321
@robm321 2 жыл бұрын
And considering that 99.9% that sign up to be a pilot end up washing out and doing something else, they get many positions filled, other than pilots. There is never a shortage of people that want to fly. Navy wins.
@53kenner
@53kenner 2 жыл бұрын
As a Machinists' Mate, I was always bothered by ALL the catapults failing on a carrier AT THE SAME TIME! Trust me, if the designers of Nimitz class carriers worshipped one god, it was Redundancy.
@Datsamoutful
@Datsamoutful 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt due in no small part to failures like the one on the USS Kitty Hawk, where they were servicing one of the blast shields and forgot to place the mechanical braces. There was a hydraulic (or steam,not sure which) failure and the shield fell, killing one sailor who was working underneath it.
@MOTO809
@MOTO809 2 жыл бұрын
But but but... that would have meant more airborne fighters, and Maverick couldn't have been the hero who saved the day. (among probably hundreds of actual inaccuracies) While I find it amusing when people pick apart 80's movies, it's just that... an 80's movie. Comparatively, it's probably the most accurate to life movie ever made in that decade.
@Datsamoutful
@Datsamoutful 2 жыл бұрын
@@MOTO809 what about Back to the Future? That was totally realistic. Okay, maybe not, but Breakfast Club was way more accurate than Top Gun.
@ganjabobby
@ganjabobby 2 жыл бұрын
“Bullshit ten minutes, this thing will be over in two minutes. Get on it!” Even as a kid, I noticed how that was more to create tension than anything technically factual. Basically they want to convey that there’s no help coming for Ice and Maverick.
@B-A-L
@B-A-L 2 жыл бұрын
And that is why the Royal Navy uses ski-jumps Nothing to go wrong!
@wpmulligan
@wpmulligan 2 жыл бұрын
My father was an RIO in Phantoms starting in the mid 1960's. He used to say that Top Gun was one of the greatest comedies put to film.
@ace7843
@ace7843 2 жыл бұрын
I love the f-4
@EK-gr9gd
@EK-gr9gd 2 жыл бұрын
There are two reasons, and two reasons only to watch "Top Gun". First the F-14, second the music.
@jeffreymoore7729
@jeffreymoore7729 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest laugh was during the set of Top Gun Tom Cruise try to lay down a large sum of money in order to fly the plane himself! he got damn near laughed off the base by base commander what a joker (3rd party resources from a sailor friend who got to work on the set/ I was not present)
@coryjamesc
@coryjamesc 2 жыл бұрын
Well In Maverick he does get to fly
@jeffreymoore7729
@jeffreymoore7729 2 жыл бұрын
All time favorite, Coolest aircraft ever!
@scotthill7927
@scotthill7927 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a nurse and this is the exact reasons why I don’t watch medical shows on tv. It drives me crazy!!!
@dlee1947
@dlee1947 2 жыл бұрын
Any Tech movie, SciFi, Aviation, Medical, Space Travel will drive anybody nuts with all the errors in them. All one can say about Hollywood is that they make movies: Good, Bad, and, Ugly. Space travel is my great complaint.
@guhalakshmiratan5566
@guhalakshmiratan5566 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto! And the thing is - they have consultants. I understand "artistic license" but some of it is way too egregious and comes across as ridiculous (like "sedating" some one by jabbing them in the 'juggular' vein - perpendicular to the vein by the way - and using the wrong drug to boot! And forget ambu-bag, monitors etc!)
@BTillman48
@BTillman48 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! My wife's an RN and she's always yelling at the screen whether it's ER or something else: "DON'T LEAVE THE BED RAILS DOWN!"
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 2 жыл бұрын
@@dlee1947 The only modern aviation movie that even comes close is 'Sully'.
@main199
@main199 2 жыл бұрын
@@dlee1947 One word, Armageddon, excruciating movie.
@Abbeville_Kid
@Abbeville_Kid 3 жыл бұрын
Number 22: speaking coherently while pulling serious G turns.
@billhanna2148
@billhanna2148 3 жыл бұрын
Good point 👍
@klk1900
@klk1900 3 жыл бұрын
My mom pulls +12g and -6gs flying her aerobatic plane with no g suit and you would never know. Also all of her friends do the same thing. They maintain calm communication walking the back seat threw what’s taking place. It’s all about tolerance. My passion is helicopters but I do fly fw crop dusting and extra 300s as well. My dad flew in the navy and then nasa. My mom gives him shit about he doesn’t like negative gs at all. He comes unglued at -1g. Not uncommon I’ve found with military pilots. Something about being allergic to -gs.
@radugabrielpopa
@radugabrielpopa 2 жыл бұрын
@@klk1900 given this is the internet, proof of that?
@greif1779
@greif1779 2 жыл бұрын
@@klk1900 proof?
@ace7843
@ace7843 2 жыл бұрын
@@klk1900 maximum rated G pull for a fighter jet with G-suit=9 sure you can pull more but chances are you’ll only be doing that for a couple weeks
@roycelabor4339
@roycelabor4339 2 жыл бұрын
Great job Ward! I'm a retired Army officer & was teaching ROTC at The Citadel when Top Gun came out. I was the enrollment officer for the Army detachment & asked my Navy counterparts what impact the movie had on their enrollment. They were not fans because all of the cadets enrolling in the Navy program wanted to be Tomcat pilots which hardly met the "needs of the Navy." We laughed because we'd gone through the same thing with Rambo, everyone wanted to be a Green Beret.
@robbyddurham1624
@robbyddurham1624 Жыл бұрын
The recruiters have to have something to lie about to get the 18 year old kids to sign up.
@richardshipman2964
@richardshipman2964 2 жыл бұрын
As a former squadron safety officer, I was really impressed that the accident investigation team completed the complex investigation in what - one month?
@PeterJavi
@PeterJavi 2 жыл бұрын
They clearly hired NCIS, so they could get the whole investigation done within the week
@AKStovall
@AKStovall 2 жыл бұрын
fastest accident investigation ever. I guess when everyone gives the information, and the FDR is recovered and reviewed... oh what am I saying... the Navy can't do anything that quickly...
@waynefletcher9884
@waynefletcher9884 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Hollywood can finish investigations in 15 minutes 😳
@josebrown5961
@josebrown5961 2 жыл бұрын
Yea they got the accident investigation done in a couple of days and somehow Maverick got another plane. Maybe they have extra planes at Miramar. I was 21 when it came out and I saw that movie at least 10 times before buying the VHS tape.
@davidrendall7195
@davidrendall7195 2 жыл бұрын
If you listen to a later scene where Maverick has been cleared by the investigation, returned to flight duty and had trouble getting "back in the saddle" Viper reminds Jester the accident had been "only a few days!". I thought omnipotence was the preserve of wives and senior NCOs.
@prism8289
@prism8289 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did that quickly and not like Watchmojo or something like that and turned it into 30 minutes.
@IGI_Media
@IGI_Media 3 жыл бұрын
@Ward Carroll Disregard his comment, as the KZfaq algorithm uses 10 minutes as the baseline for the classification of clips. Keeping clip length above 10 mins will help you get discovered.
@martinruckdeschel695
@martinruckdeschel695 3 жыл бұрын
Would ALL of the catapults be down at the same time?
@siskokidd
@siskokidd 3 жыл бұрын
30 = 10 minutes of stated content, 20 minutes of repetition, plus alerting you that you will be given the stated content.
@bjornblackman2337
@bjornblackman2337 3 жыл бұрын
And watchmojo is shitty sometimes.
@MrJeffinLodi
@MrJeffinLodi 3 жыл бұрын
First thing I noticed. No explaining and the explaining what he just said.
@JamesSkools
@JamesSkools 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid my dad was stationed in Miramar. He liked to point out the scene where Mavrick and Charlie meet in an elevator. There were no elevators there...
@hfuy8005
@hfuy8005 2 жыл бұрын
That was, if memory serves, a reshoot. They'd have shot at the production company's offices, or something, and dubbed some engine noise on. That's why Kelly McGillis has her hair stuffed under a baseball cap - she'd dyed it red for a subsequent role. Same reason behind the blue light in the bedroom scene.
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 2 жыл бұрын
And not only that, someone matched the Pings with the opening and closing of the elevator doors and found out that in one instance everybody exits through a closed door! 😂
@ajwilson605
@ajwilson605 Жыл бұрын
My first thoughts when I watched "Top Gun" in the theatre release was, "How does "Maverick" get away with riding his Kawasaki Ninja in California without a helmet?" California was one of the first states with a mandatory helmet law, that came out in the '70's. I was enlisted Navy from '78 to '85 and just to enter SSC/NTC, North Island, or San Diego Naval Station you had to be wearing a DOT certified helmet. The Navy required helmets before the State of California.
@topgunaircraftsales4408
@topgunaircraftsales4408 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Job Ward, Error 22 there is no "Topgun Trophy" at least not when I went thru in F-4's in 81. Soupy
@antoniog9814
@antoniog9814 3 жыл бұрын
4:32 "Tower, there's some dork riding a motorcycle down the taxiway shaking his fist at us, and he's not wearing the appropriate safety vest." LOL
@Rhojin83
@Rhojin83 3 жыл бұрын
Or a helmet.
@JohnGuzik
@JohnGuzik 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rhojin83 White t-shirt not authorized as outer garment.
@Hopdvil
@Hopdvil 3 жыл бұрын
I never put that together and I’ve had to go through base motorcycle safety training.
@williamnett
@williamnett 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact... Tom Cruise wasn't in control of the motorcycle. During that scene it was attached to the back of a movie truck.
@jemakrol
@jemakrol 3 жыл бұрын
Or helmet, for that matter. But hey, at those speeds it's ok. What could happen? It's not like he's flying! :D
@bigginsd1
@bigginsd1 3 жыл бұрын
I thought every body was aware at this point that Top Gun is as realistic representation of Fighter Pilots as Indiana Jones is of Archeologists.
@eoincaomhanach1983
@eoincaomhanach1983 3 жыл бұрын
as someone who worked in archaeology and studied archaeology, i love this comment lol
@ChrisandEileen
@ChrisandEileen 3 жыл бұрын
This movie is no different than how Backdraft was for Firemen.. We all joked about it while in the theatre.
@rossbrumby1957
@rossbrumby1957 3 жыл бұрын
It is...... compared to Hot Shots. All things are relative.
@johnjones5354
@johnjones5354 3 жыл бұрын
Top Gun is to fighter pilots as Days of Thunder is to stock car drivers. Appropriate since they are the same exact movie, just different settings.
@johnjones5354
@johnjones5354 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisandEileen Or The China Syndrome is for nuclear professionals. One of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
@Muzikteechur
@Muzikteechur 2 жыл бұрын
When Maverick is riding alongside the jet taking off, you can see the tie-down strap on the front of the Kawasaki as well as the bed of the truck he's riding on. Still a great movie.
@blueskys6265
@blueskys6265 2 жыл бұрын
wow man, good observation.
@shannonchurchill4556
@shannonchurchill4556 2 жыл бұрын
I said that on another comment. That and the ham-fisted use of the clutch
@jasoncarswell7458
@jasoncarswell7458 2 жыл бұрын
Immediately upon rewatching it, right after the raised fist, he blips the clutch handle and the bike doesn't react at all... amazing the things you fail to notice in the theater. I guess that's the filmmaker's art, eh?
@DanielByrns
@DanielByrns Жыл бұрын
Missed one I remember the captain saying both catapults were down in the last fight but that carrier had 4.
@joemoore4027
@joemoore4027 3 жыл бұрын
I like the frontal shots of the pilot sitting in the ejection seat with the brass unlocking tool in place (behind his head on the left side) . The tool was used to unlock the seat from the rails when you pulled the seat out. Having worked for Grumman on Long Island building all models of the Tomcat the employees picked the movie to death, loads of fun.
@dash5257
@dash5257 3 жыл бұрын
It's called a star wheel. I was a ejection seat mechanic for the A6 Intruder. We laughed when we saw the star wheel on the seat
@johngarroch
@johngarroch 2 жыл бұрын
I was a tech on ejection seats. Hunter, Buccaneers, Jaguar and Tornado. We called that brass tool a top latch plunger wheel. I was surprised that the seat didn’t fall when they went inverted. 😂Great movie though.
@karlking6427
@karlking6427 2 жыл бұрын
I was an AME in VF-102 (‘93-‘98)and VX-9 Det. (‘98-‘00), and every time I see the star wheel, it’s like Dorothy looking behind the curtain.
@benjaminperez7328
@benjaminperez7328 Жыл бұрын
GRUMMAN IRON WORKS! You built some beautiful birds, Sir. 🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@Lozzie74
@Lozzie74 Жыл бұрын
No wonder Goose died!
@michaelbarton6444
@michaelbarton6444 3 жыл бұрын
I was a crew member 82-85 on USS Enterprise when they were filming scenes for top gun. In later years watching the movie I picked out most of the errors you pointed out. I am a retired AT2 Having supported the F14 in AIMD most of my career. Thank you for your service sir and pointing out the blatant Hollywood goofs.
@gregrtodd
@gregrtodd 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic debrief. Thanks! I'd add one more thing to that list: 4B Even if the RIO had a fuel gauge in the back, what would be the point of tapping on an electronic gauge? Was he worried that the LEDs had become stuck?
@krazykyfan
@krazykyfan 2 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic. I laughed just about the whole time you were presenting this because, as a kid, when you watched this movie, you were in awe. As an adult, you see the glaring flaws in the movie, even though it's still awesome. The same goes for Iron Eagle and all the silly/incorrect/ridiculous inaccuracies you see in that movie, which too is still an awesome aviation movie. Great stuff Ward!
@timg2088
@timg2088 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct! Iron Eagle was on a whole different level as far as inaccuracies go. Even as a teen, I found it impossible to swallow the fact a teenager would be allowed anywhere near an F-16. Training or otherwise.
@krazykyfan
@krazykyfan 2 жыл бұрын
@@timg2088 Dougie was the man lol.
@timg2088
@timg2088 2 жыл бұрын
@@krazykyfan WAS HE?!?!?! And then some! Had free reign of the base, and apparently all fighter aircraft, too! If we just had someone like him in the Pentagon! 😂
@highlander723
@highlander723 2 жыл бұрын
No because if they showed what it's like in real life it would be boring.
@duartesimoes508
@duartesimoes508 2 жыл бұрын
Iron Eagle was horrible.
@watchyourtimeco1
@watchyourtimeco1 3 жыл бұрын
"Why is Hollywood eating an orange on the flightline?" That one made me lol
@BobSmith-uu5kj
@BobSmith-uu5kj 2 жыл бұрын
:-) made me laugh too… an orange would never take down a fighter engine… they are even supposed to ingest a certain size of birds and keep running fine. Plus if no one can have a short sugar kick before a dogfight :-)
@Spanishfutbol2010
@Spanishfutbol2010 2 жыл бұрын
All these years and I’ve never noticed that
@romainepenton1832
@romainepenton1832 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spanishfutbol2010 me too
@doncarlton4858
@doncarlton4858 2 жыл бұрын
Oranges? Never, but gobs and gobs of junk food in paper wrappers? Totally acceptable says every Air Force pilot and crew!
@thomasneedham1512
@thomasneedham1512 2 жыл бұрын
Saw an A-7 try to eat a guy on the flight deck once. The A-7s and A-6s had the wicked jet blast that came on the bounce from the deck. Dangerous business being on the flight deck at almost any time.
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 3 жыл бұрын
#8. I love at the end of Hot Shots! When Charlie Sheen is trying to land and every one is on the deck celebrating, you hear him over the radio "Hey you wanna get out of the way we are trying to land."
@teejfalconaf
@teejfalconaf 3 жыл бұрын
Had I been in the production crew of "Hot Shots", I would have had Sheen call Winchester...land on the carrier....and get serviced (fresh load of missiles) and push-started off the deck by the Penske indy crew.
@SimonRaahauge1973
@SimonRaahauge1973 3 жыл бұрын
Hot shots is a 1000 times better than top gun! :oD
@michaelhawker2642
@michaelhawker2642 3 жыл бұрын
@@SimonRaahauge1973 Hey I agree with you 1000 percent! Just the fact that Hot Shots was made to "Fly in the face" of top gun made me say YAY!
@Muck006
@Muck006 3 жыл бұрын
Most relevant scene from Hot Shots is obviously the "kill count" one from HS2 ... which parodied all 80s action movies as "requiring a bigger kill count than their predecessors". Sadly Hollywood hasnt learned from this yet, but today it is the CGI and not the special effects budget that goes through the roof for sequels to make them "better".
@fredwerza3478
@fredwerza3478 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised how under-rated "Hot Shots" is --- one of the funniest movies I ever seen --- Lloyd Bridges is hilarious
@David-ty1xz
@David-ty1xz 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to see a 100% accurate movie, watch Office Space.
@garrisonnichols7372
@garrisonnichols7372 2 жыл бұрын
🤣👍 Yep!
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 2 жыл бұрын
2006: Idiocracy is satire! 2021: Wanna bet?
@altratronic
@altratronic 2 жыл бұрын
...or Clerks.
@rdablock
@rdablock 2 жыл бұрын
not even accurate, you'd get hauled to jail a day or week after pulling the money-skimming shit
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't need a million dollars and I ain't anything much to look at. ;)
@tekvax01
@tekvax01 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed most of those errors in the past and often wondered about them. Cheers for explaining them in such detail!
@johnm8961
@johnm8961 3 жыл бұрын
Number 22. Tom Cruze had to sit on a phone book to see out the window.
@fredwerza3478
@fredwerza3478 3 жыл бұрын
Oh snap --- I was scrolling down to find a joke about Cruise's height
@completewith7
@completewith7 3 жыл бұрын
Would TC even be tall enough to be a fighter pilot?
@ivanlowjones
@ivanlowjones 3 жыл бұрын
Cruze or Cruise?😖
@huddma69
@huddma69 3 жыл бұрын
@@completewith7 Pilot (seated) height can be a disadvantage with g-force "resistance". Not too mention you need to be able to fit in the cockpit. A tall pilot would have to fly a slower plane. Chad Hennings, a 6’6” defensive tackle who played the Dallas Cowboys out of the Air Force Academy had fly a warthog. He was too tall to be a fighter pilot.
@spudeleven5124
@spudeleven5124 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@Tom-kw6km
@Tom-kw6km 3 жыл бұрын
"You! You are still dangerous. But you can be my Motion Picture Technical Advisor anytime." "Bullshit. You can be mine."
@user-yq3fz9ch5q
@user-yq3fz9ch5q 3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂
@andrewkoss8463
@andrewkoss8463 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, sir. Very good stuff, Ward. Thanks for the memories and good gouge. I was a fleet A-7 guy (75-86), had a CAG ops tour, was CO of VF45 (Key West Adversary flying F16, F5 and A4) and finally AirBoss on the TR. Went on to enjoy flying a FEDEX. Be well, shipmate.
@daveperala4723
@daveperala4723 Жыл бұрын
Was in 45 back in 84-87, PR2. Only had A-4s {TA-J & E's} back then. Actually, it was VA-45 when I first got there, changed in late 84 early 85 if I remember correctly.
@schurb
@schurb 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact. Navy here. I went to AMS "A"School in Millington, TN back in 1988. There was a lounge room by our barracks. There was a VCR and a TV in the lounge area. Every day, Top Gun was on the tv, and and everyone would stop what they were doing and watch. We didn't know the facts at the time. It looked legitimate to out ignorant brains. Hindsight is always 20/20. Thanks Ward for pointing out the facts you know are wrong.
@scootskute
@scootskute 3 жыл бұрын
My dad was a firefighter at the crash house at NASF while the original movie was being filmed. I remember going on base to visit him and I saw a very small blue jet that I had never seen before. I asked my dad about it and he explained that it was a camera jet, and they were making a movie with some young hot shot star. Oh, and the flat spin happened about 15 seconds after we have a clear view of sand mountain, a convenient 300 miles from the nearest ocean beach, and about 500 from Miramar. I always laughed at how far he went while in a flat spin. That's the magic of movies. They film it hundreds of miles from the story's location and only the locals know. Basically, if you don't see the beach or palm trees in the shot, you are probably looking at Nevada.
@Muck006
@Muck006 3 жыл бұрын
They also get to "fall" for as long as it takes to say all the dialogue ... instead of "as long as it actually takes".
@tommitchell4570
@tommitchell4570 3 жыл бұрын
"Some young hot shot star" --- it's kinda weird that Tom Cruise was only known for dancing in his tighty whiteys before Top Gun came out
@scootskute
@scootskute 3 жыл бұрын
@@tommitchell4570 isn't that the truth!?! My dad didn't know him by name, and I'm not sure I did either. I knew The Outsiders, but he was far from top of the bill for that one. I knew Risky business, too, but I'm not sure if I knew his name at that point, though the tighty whiteys scene you mentioned was known to almost anybody. Top Gun was the first of several successful films that made his name a household name that anybody should recognize.
@grondhero
@grondhero 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Cruise had been in about half a dozen or so movies beforehand, such as Taps, The Outsiders, and Legend. I remember in middle school when we took a field trip to see Top Gun and all the girls were so excited as we were filing into the theater and screaming when his name came on screen. I didn't recognize him at the time, but apparently the females were well-acquainted with him.
@tommitchell4570
@tommitchell4570 3 жыл бұрын
@@grondhero --- Tom Cruise was apparently "hot" in the 80's --- girls were smitten with him --- this was before the Scientology stuff came out
@the_once-and-future_king.
@the_once-and-future_king. 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Jester should have been reprimanded for deliberately diving to the arbitrary hard deck simply because he didn't want Maverick to get a 'kill'. Unless it was a Soviet technique to fly into the ground rather than be shot down?
@agp11001
@agp11001 3 жыл бұрын
"You see Ivan, if you goings into ground like this, Americans can never shoot you down because you are below ground. Profit for glorious Motherland!"
@the_once-and-future_king.
@the_once-and-future_king. 3 жыл бұрын
@@agp11001 Holy crap I just immediately read that with a Russian accent!!
@jbx1967
@jbx1967 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@662wc5
@662wc5 3 жыл бұрын
In Soviet Russia, hard deck breaks you!
@rocketmann8333
@rocketmann8333 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO...
@trob1173
@trob1173 2 жыл бұрын
When one of the F-14s is shutting off one of its engines, the Vulcan 20mm in the nose is shown firing. That always annoyed me along with the throttle getting shoved forward to "hit the brakes."
@legodragonxp
@legodragonxp 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, was coming here to say that as well.
@michaelwerkov3438
@michaelwerkov3438 2 жыл бұрын
is this show in this video? i want to see, but i dont know where to look lol
@legodragonxp
@legodragonxp 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwerkov3438 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n8ebhqmJ0JrdoH0.html At about 6:23 or 6:24
@rickyokogawa6154
@rickyokogawa6154 2 жыл бұрын
That is the slowest firing M61 I’ve seen. Also seeing the AIM 9 coming off of the same rail twice! Otherwise a fun movie to watch!
@koori3085
@koori3085 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance of a Flight of the Intruder video? Love this one, except for the entire dogfight at the end. Especially when one bogey moves in closer to the other bogeys and then pops up on radar! Thanks a lot for these videos, great fun to hear from a pro! And, thanks for your service! 🇺🇸💪
@scottsee5766
@scottsee5766 2 жыл бұрын
Don't dare besmirch that movie! It was straight-up legit!! ;)
@koori3085
@koori3085 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottsee5766 It is a great movie, that's why I'd like to see someone review it before the Intruder community dissappears.
@chrisneumann4202
@chrisneumann4202 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't fly the A-6 but I was an Avionics Tech from 88-92. Not being a pilot I'm not sure about all of the nuances of actually flying it but as far as the technical details there was a lot of wrong going on. FOTI was set in 1972, a good chunk of the avionics see in the film was not period correct, the paint schemes were all wrong for the carrier scenes, and there were some pilot/BN actions that didn't make sense. For instance, towards the end of the movie I was always curious as to why the pilot decided call BINGO fuel, then turn on the canopy map light...during the day... Either way, still love the movie with all it's flaws. The one thing they did get right is the unique sound of the P&W J-52 engines and the background noises of the carrier.
@danielbyers9755
@danielbyers9755 3 жыл бұрын
From a former Plane Captain of the Tomcat with VF-1 (1986-1990), the one error that gets me is when Maverick was getting ready to launch from the alert 5, the plane captain was holding the signal "Remove Electrical power" while the Tomcat was in Zone five on the cats... That always gets me...
@THEgenART
@THEgenART 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the “index and middle finger of one hand pressing into the palm of your other”? I couldn’t find what that meant but thought it may have been a sign to confirm both AB’s were functioning before releasing the cat. Your comment makes sense since I couldn’t find that sign anywhere
@bobc733
@bobc733 3 жыл бұрын
The most laughable thing about Top Gun is that apparently flying close to a MIG fighter jet can get you laid
@mikaelbiilmann6826
@mikaelbiilmann6826 3 жыл бұрын
That says more about the lady then.... 😄
@Whiskey11Gaming
@Whiskey11Gaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikaelbiilmann6826 not going to lie, if a lady knows what a MiG is, that's pretty hot! ;)
@sasakalak4681
@sasakalak4681 3 жыл бұрын
there is nothing laughabla about Top Gun
@chipm2544
@chipm2544 3 жыл бұрын
Now she is for the other team. Had a nice restaurant in Key West, at least many years ago.
@aaronweiser5421
@aaronweiser5421 3 жыл бұрын
Alsoe that volleyball scene was all fake, they brought in a truck load of sand and a net,when production finished they dismantled it and that was the end of it.
@crashburn3292
@crashburn3292 2 жыл бұрын
Ground crew: *"Why is Hollywood's cockpit instruments all sticky again??"*
@patch5859
@patch5859 2 жыл бұрын
Smells like orange juice!
@mitchellkirkwood8772
@mitchellkirkwood8772 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought when the CAG/CO/Capitan who gave orders in the CIC the scene before, said "You can tell me about the MIG some other time" and dismisses them to Top Gun and being they were not in the U.S. dogfighting Migs, It would be a day or two before being near enough to a base that's within range of a C-2 Greyhound, so what was the hurry getting them out of his stateroom? They had plenty of time to give him their debrief of why a Mig got within 150 miles of the carrier task force
@jmowreader9555
@jmowreader9555 Жыл бұрын
I suspect the Carrier Air Wing Intelligence Team and the Operations Officer were standing right outside the Squadron CO's door while Maverick was in there getting his butt chewed...when the two of them walked out the door..."Gentleman, we need to talk. Right now."
@chrisgraeter373
@chrisgraeter373 3 жыл бұрын
You can #22 to the list. As a former ABE (Catapults And Arresting Gear ) sailor, the scene at the end where Maverick is being launched from the Alert 5 right before he is launched the hand signal for "Hang Fire" is given and then he is launched. A 'Hang Fire" is when the fire button is pressed by the deck edge crewman or on carriers that have the bubble by the Shooter and the catapult fails to launch the plane. This is a serious situation and a Suspend of the launch would happen and the plane would be moved off the cat and the catapult shut down.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@bigsarge8795
@bigsarge8795 3 жыл бұрын
Ok Karen. Picky picky.
@chrisgraeter373
@chrisgraeter373 3 жыл бұрын
I”m not a”Karen” just adding to the main subject of this video. Plus since I actually worked, Trained and spent my career working Catapults and arresting gear on carrier I wanted to point out the stupid movie mistake made that Ward also made a list to. So come on give me a break. Also ask yourself who is the really “Karen”? Not me so must be you. just saying!
@bigsarge8795
@bigsarge8795 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisgraeter373 calm down. I just having a little fun. I dont think anyone really took that movie verbatim
@FIREBRAND38
@FIREBRAND38 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigsarge8795 Way to fight for ignorance.
@wilfredrivera5963
@wilfredrivera5963 3 жыл бұрын
I was laughing my ass off when both planes were flying above each other and not touching tails.
@NaeMuckle
@NaeMuckle 3 жыл бұрын
They were inverted
@pppooppoo7763
@pppooppoo7763 3 жыл бұрын
@@NaeMuckle thats why they should be touching tails
@TheticCrime
@TheticCrime 3 жыл бұрын
@@pppooppoo7763 the Mig 28 tail would be in the middle of the F 14 tails
@662wc5
@662wc5 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheticCrime Their canopies are only about two feet apart. Look at photos of an F-14 and compare the height of the vertical stabs to the top of the canopy. See the problem?
@TheticCrime
@TheticCrime 3 жыл бұрын
@@662wc5 the discussion is about touching tails ( vert stabs ) since the F 14 is 4meter longer than the F 5, the tails wont touch, the F 5 tail will touch the fuselage before the twin tails
@prestonburton8504
@prestonburton8504 16 күн бұрын
5:41 "And, it looks like we have 'progress' here!" priceless! awesome analysis!
@just82much51
@just82much51 2 жыл бұрын
"Tower, there's some lunatic on the flight line on a motor cycle shaking his fist at us!"....That"s PRICELESS!!!!! 😂😂 Seriously though, I enjoyed your breakdown of "TopGun" just as I did on "The Final Countdown". Both happen to feature my all time favorite fighter, the F-14. I actually have a distant cousin who is an Engineer and back in the day, worked on the design of one of the TomCat's initial systems, I believe it was radar. Above all, thank you for making this video and most of all, your service to our country! So many people have unfortunately turned those few words into a cliche', but military service, especially flying, runs generations deep in my family and I VERY much appreciate your service!! How INCREDIBLE it must have been to spend that time in the cockpit of the F-14!!!! Please keep your video's coming! They are informative and enjoyable! Thank you again "Mooch" and God Bless!!!!!
@tekvax01
@tekvax01 2 жыл бұрын
hear hear!
@theodoregirouard7294
@theodoregirouard7294 3 жыл бұрын
The part that always bugged me was when Maverick is giving instructions to an angel under attack, "On 3 break right, 1,2,3, break right." I would have broken right on three.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Right!? Great point.
@jbx1967
@jbx1967 3 жыл бұрын
Murtaugh: Wait! Wait. Do we go on 3 or is it 1, 2, 3, and THEN we go? Riggs: It's your ass, Cochise...
@gateway1600
@gateway1600 3 жыл бұрын
Boohoo! Buzz kill
@Mike_Costello
@Mike_Costello 3 жыл бұрын
@@jbx1967 LOL this was the first thing I thought of when I read the post. Bahahaha!
@kwebster62
@kwebster62 3 жыл бұрын
Except he doesn't say "On 3, break right".....he said "Ice, on the COUNT of 3, break hard right. 3, 2, 1, break right". One could argue that a 'count of 3' is "1, 2, 3" I suppose.
@chrisaskin6144
@chrisaskin6144 3 жыл бұрын
There is a flying sequence scene in the cockpit, where you can see over the pilot's left shoulder, that the top latch wheel is installed in the ejection seat. The top latch wheel is a specialist tool which enables the armourers to remove and refit ejection seats - it's screwed into the top latch to withdraw a spring loaded plunger which lock's the seat to the ejection gun. It is ALWAYS carried in the toolkit, and is only used to remove the seat and place it on a maintenance stand. And of course to remove the seat from the stand and refit back in the cockpit - whereupon it is unscrewed immediately and placed back in the toolkit. If an aircraft flew with the top latch wheel installed, then the moment the aircraft inverted, the seat would slide off the ejection gun guide rails and probably through the canopy, initiating the barostatic release unit, the drogue gun, the rocket pack and main gun firing unit along the way.
@macblastoff7700
@macblastoff7700 3 жыл бұрын
Fave comment here.
@CincinnatiDan
@CincinnatiDan 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the best part of the internet is learning from real people with real experience. Thanks!
@JeffMTX
@JeffMTX 3 жыл бұрын
dayum, good eye!
@saphrys
@saphrys 3 жыл бұрын
Was an AME. And worked on those seats. Its the one huge mistake I see everytime that movie comes on.
@dash5257
@dash5257 3 жыл бұрын
I was a AME and when we saw the Star wheel on the seats we laughed. They gave Tom a flight and the pilot had him puking his guts out lol
@davidcampbell4174
@davidcampbell4174 Жыл бұрын
The thing that bothered me the most you did not mention. That whole plot point about going below the hard deck chasing Jester, when the entire fight seemed to be below the deck given the flight scenes used. One time goose even says ‘Watch the mountains”. It seemed like most of that fight happened below 1000’.
@SWOBIZ
@SWOBIZ 2 жыл бұрын
"Thanks for the foul deck, shipmate!" That killed me!
@sparekeiv
@sparekeiv 3 жыл бұрын
That scene where Maverick's plane is inverted over the Mig always bothered me, even as a kid. My immediate thought was "there is no way the planes could be that close to each other - the fins of the planes would be colliding"
@Muck006
@Muck006 3 жыл бұрын
Not just the fins ... the air turbulences COULD BE a problem ... and separating them again would pose the risk of having one plane in the hot exhaust of the other plane's engine ... which risks damage.
@dx1450
@dx1450 3 жыл бұрын
And not to mention that in order to fly that close without crashing into each other both pilots would have to be working together with nerves of steel... not knowing what another pilot might do like make a sudden maneuver, it would be suicide to attempt that.
@B-A-L
@B-A-L 2 жыл бұрын
Actually they wouldn't be colliding because the 'MiG 28' only had a single tail fin which would have been in the middle of the F-14 and the F-14 is so wide the twin tail fins wouldn't be touching anything.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 2 жыл бұрын
Fins won’t get damaged my exhaust. Look up the USAF thunderbirds flying the F-100s. The plane in the slot has a black tail from the leads exhaust. That’s after hours.. not seconds. Suction between canopies? Just counteract it with control. That’s literally all flying a plane is… flying with a reference (surface of the earth, instruments, or another aircraft) and using your controls to maintain that reference.
@AV8R_1
@AV8R_1 3 жыл бұрын
To quote Tony Scott when asked about errors in the details... “I didn’t make the movie for fighter pilots.”
@MoAndAye
@MoAndAye 3 жыл бұрын
One of these years somebody is gonna make a movie that whacks the shit out of how a Hollywood director really does their job, and when Hollywood directors whine in all their insider parties throughout the Pacific Palisades, that somebody can piss all over them by paraphrasing Tony Scott. The arrogance of any popcorn movie maker thinking that they can cut and paste together anything more terrorizing than the basic, professional, calm reality of a modern jet fighter cockpit in an actual dogfight....
@JamieSmith-fz2mz
@JamieSmith-fz2mz 3 жыл бұрын
@@MoAndAye They made millions. They entertained millions. That was their one and only goal. Not creating a training film or a documentary. Every subject Hollywood touches gets cartoonized for the masses. We all know this going in. They have two hours to tell an elaborate story. They take shortcuts.
@bartacomuskidd775
@bartacomuskidd775 3 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt have asked him to detail the type of person he did make it for..
@AV8R_1
@AV8R_1 3 жыл бұрын
@@bartacomuskidd775 that is the short version of the quote, but the gist of his statement was that he made the movie for movie goers who wanted fun action, and not a documentary, he specifically said that he knew fighter pilots wouldn’t like it, but he didn’t make it for them.
@Gamble661
@Gamble661 3 жыл бұрын
I'll start by saying that I'm a retired pilot as well and while I never flew the F-14 (wrong branch) I do know a little something about that type of equipment. I love Top Gun and I've obviously known from the first time I saw it in the theatre that it was a tad less than accurate. I can overlook that though because it's such a fun movie. My only gripe here is that he brought up some truly piddly stuff and left out some things that I've always found much more egregious about the movie. Receiving their orders at the Top Gun ceremony for instance; that's never bothered me as much as the inference in that scene that of all the pilots in the entire US Navy, those particular guys are the ONLY ones who can deal with the problem. The pilots that were already on the ship weren't up to snuff? Or the fact that there's a hot blond telling active duty F-14 pilots how to fly their aircraft and what they're doing wrong. Again, needed the hot blond for the plot but come on. Or the story about Maverick's dad as told to him by Viper, anyone else noticed that it made absolutely no sense at all? Just a few plot holes. The tech stuff didn't bother me because most people wouldn't know about it anyway so it's not as in-your-face as things like the above plot holes.
@wootle
@wootle 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I have a burning question though! This movie was made with US Navy assistance and input - how were these glaring errors not caught whilst the movie crew was literally surrounded by professionals in the field. I mean any pilot (let alone an F14 pilot) would have caught that max throttle to "slow down" error for example.
@DarkLordDiablos
@DarkLordDiablos Жыл бұрын
I guess you could say that they just didn't care as they knew that most of the people watching wouldn't have that knowledge so wouldn't pick up on it.
@grayhawkjl947
@grayhawkjl947 2 жыл бұрын
One of my biggest needs with the movie has always been the hard deck sequence. Before the final engagement when they are below the hard deck for “a few seconds”, as maverick is chasing they are clearly way below 10,000 ft flying through desert peaks and close to the ground
@madpatzz1
@madpatzz1 Жыл бұрын
Depends I’d the hard deck was ago or asl
@madpatzz1
@madpatzz1 Жыл бұрын
Agl or asl. F#$king auto correct
@mikepowers171
@mikepowers171 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen this movie maybe 40 times since childhood (37 now) and I never noticed the damn orange Hollywood is eating until this video 😂😂
@Toncor12
@Toncor12 3 жыл бұрын
It will bug you for the next 140 viewings!! That radar spinning is gonna freak me out when I watch it for the 63rd time :)
@vinceboston7451
@vinceboston7451 2 жыл бұрын
Orange= DEATH (See The Godfather) 🍊🍊🍊☠️☠️☠️
@PelenTan
@PelenTan 2 жыл бұрын
That's because it wasn't in the movie originally. It's a Mandela effect. Hey... I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't add in a conspiracy theory at some point.
@tekvax01
@tekvax01 2 жыл бұрын
I did... often wondered about that one too! It's about the same as cruise eating an apple as a JAG during a high-level meeting, in a few good men...
@koori3085
@koori3085 2 жыл бұрын
No shit, we're even same age, talk about FOD, fruity object debris!
@russ4AGE
@russ4AGE 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve been in aviation industry for 20 years thanks to this movie. It’s riddled with flaws, but I still love it. Thanks for the great video
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thx, Russell
@TRADINGARMOR
@TRADINGARMOR 2 жыл бұрын
That would have been pretty high tech to get an email in 1986! Awesome video!
@TheGrrson
@TheGrrson 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy this channel. As a kid, seeing “Top Gun” absolutely made me want to join the Navy to fly an F-14. Even though poor eyesight killed my fighter pilot dreams, to this day the Tomcat is still my favorite aircraft of all time. There’s just something about its design, and of course the swept wings, that just screams ‘badass.’ Thanks for the videos, Gypsy 214.
@gregssingletary
@gregssingletary 3 жыл бұрын
As a college freshman in 1986 I knew most of these having lived around Pensacola and watching the Blues fly for years. Still loved it and still love it. I recently spent a Saturday night with my Ukrainian goddaughter watching it so she would know why her dad and I say "Negative ghost rider" instead of no to each other.
@babboon5764
@babboon5764 3 жыл бұрын
You *really* wanted your Ukrainian goddahgter to know her goddfather's a card-carrying, died in the wool nerd didn't you?
@jbx1967
@jbx1967 3 жыл бұрын
You mean "Negative, Maverick." Ghost Rider was a Nicolas Cage movie.
@Lemev
@Lemev 3 жыл бұрын
@@jbx1967 did you really watch Top Gun? Or are you just trolling around?
@timm8973
@timm8973 3 жыл бұрын
I was one of those young guys that joined the Navy because of Top Gun. Was assigned to VF-213 seat shop 94-96. In the movie the star wheels are installed on the ejection seats as a safety measure. Enjoy your content sir. Thank you.
@TheHannukahZombie
@TheHannukahZombie 3 жыл бұрын
What would the star wheel do to save the seat? That just unlocks the main beam from the catapult.
@timm8973
@timm8973 3 жыл бұрын
Seats were probably pulled by the AME’s and all CADS removed. Just assuming. Yes, technically the star wheels were not a safety measure. Thanks.
@TheHannukahZombie
@TheHannukahZombie 3 жыл бұрын
@@timm8973 not technically, they aren't a safety measure at all. They are a disassembly tool. The star wheels were there probably because someone missed removing them during filming.
@brettlong8041
@brettlong8041 2 жыл бұрын
Cool Chanel. I was an F-14A/A+ airframer and flight deck troubleshooter, VF-211, GAG 9, Nimitz, 87-91. Love the stories. We had a flight deck fire Nov 88 in the I.O. Would love to see you do a video about that. The Ordies were working on an A-7 20mm, they thought it was empty, it was not. Hit a fully loaded KA-6. The fire was higher than the Island. 2 died. The KA-6 was pushed overboard the next morning, I helped push and watched it sink. And about a dozen aircraft were damaged, mostly A-7s, none ever flew again. HB-1 was full of burnt planes for the rest of the cruse.
@richborg45
@richborg45 Жыл бұрын
Very good video with all the errors. I was in VF-51 as a Plane Captain when we filmed the movie. When we got to see the movie for the first time as a squadron, we did laugh at things and said that was wrong. Over all, they tried their best to be accurate, but is is a movie.
@greggd2027
@greggd2027 3 жыл бұрын
When Top Gun came out, one of our local morning radio shows here did a funny skit about people joining the Navy because of the movie. It was a guy supposedly calling in to the station, yelling "I thought I was gonna meet Tom Cruise! I thought I was gonna be a pilot and meet hot women! I'm scrubbing decks and cleaning toilets!"
@solicitr666
@solicitr666 3 жыл бұрын
Reality
@dx1450
@dx1450 3 жыл бұрын
I remember an old Saturday Night Live commercial from the 70's about joining the Navy... showed guys scraping paint, peeling potatoes, mopping floors, and a bunch of other mundane, not fun jobs. Then at the end it said, "U.S. Navy. It's not just a job, it's $295 a week."
@msheakc
@msheakc 3 жыл бұрын
My number 22. I was an E2-C Flight Tech in training when TG came out. I watched it in a Norfolk VA theater in a crowd of mostly Navy personel. After they got their orders the next seen was at sea and text on the screen said "24 hours later in the Indian Ocean." Many in the audience chuckled at that as it was virtually impossible to get to the ship that quickly.
@fredwerza3478
@fredwerza3478 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait until "Top Gun 3" comes out in 2030 and geriatric Maverick is dogfighting aliens LOL
@SteamboatWilley
@SteamboatWilley 3 жыл бұрын
Which makes me wonder what those MIGs were doing out in the Indian ocean, nowhere near Soviet territory. I think the mission briefing says there was a support ship that had broken down and "drifted into enemy territory", but there are no Soviet states bordering the Indian ocean.
@alanwhite9126
@alanwhite9126 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too, you would think the 'makers' would check for such details etc:)
@jamesosburn3018
@jamesosburn3018 2 жыл бұрын
"Cougar's question is mute until he does some pilot shit".....classic lol
@XwhiskeysXgaming
@XwhiskeysXgaming 2 жыл бұрын
Haha “Some dork is riding next to the runway with his fist extended” lol
@markbeyea4063
@markbeyea4063 3 жыл бұрын
How about the fact that the "MIG 28" is completely fictional?
@Charliechorizo
@Charliechorizo 2 жыл бұрын
That's only what the public thinks.
@zhasnogirls
@zhasnogirls 2 жыл бұрын
u probably know this but the name is fictional but its actually a f5 with black paint
@caradellinowazer2988
@caradellinowazer2988 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhasnogirls close, but still a miss, the twin seater F-5 is called T-38 😉
@B-A-L
@B-A-L 2 жыл бұрын
How about the fact that if you look properly the MiG 28 changes from a single seater to a twin seater several times during the movie?
@eliasschanz6659
@eliasschanz6659 2 жыл бұрын
@@B-A-L that’s pretty normal. A lot of jets come in multi and single seat config’s so that makes some sense
@chrisrosado215
@chrisrosado215 3 жыл бұрын
This was so VERY awesome!!! Thanks for putting in the time and effort for this channel. You and CW Lemoine are captivating to listen to and learn from.
@reala-4edriver172
@reala-4edriver172 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ward. I was a Scooter Driver in Vietnam embarked in CVA-62 and CVA-42. By the time I flew my last Navy aircraft I had accumulated 700 or so traps. With the rather large number of "Holy S--t" moments one collects during flying off the carrier that long, I've especially enjoyed your commentaries about carrier aviation. Because of your demonstrated knowledge of the behind-the-scenes history of Top Gun, you may be able answer a question that's been bugging since the first time I saw the move in our local movie theater. James Tolkin's hard boiled temperament and bald head is damn near the spitting image of my CO in VX-5. Long before I checked into the Vampires everyone told me what a hard ass Capt. Muncie was and to a man each of them warned me to NEVER comment about his bald head about which he was very self-conscious. Do you know if Tolkan's character was patterned on Capt. Muncie? At our first squadron party in VX-5 I introduced my wife to the skipper. My beautiful spouse shook the Skipper's hand, looked up at the CO's shiny bald, looked directly into the skipper's eyes and with wry smile said, "So, I understand we're not supposed to talk about your bald head. Game, set, and match point to my bride.
@patavinity1262
@patavinity1262 Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't surprise me if they had retired Navy pilots as technical advisors on the film, and if so it's highly likely they served in the South China Sea around that time. Could well be some similar anecdotes about your CO got told to the production crew.
@rksnj6797
@rksnj6797 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I use many of these reasons to explain to my friends why Top Gun is unrealistic. Don't get me wrong, any movie with Tomcats is worth watching. Having been a maintainer on the F-111, the classified briefing in the hangar scene always makes me laugh. However now being in ATC, when a student pilot requests practice approaches or pattern work, it's so hard not to say "Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full" LOL! One thing you didn't mention is that the landing officer told Cougar he was well below glidepath then asked him to call the ball, and then rogered Cougar calling the ball. If Cougar was that fubared, would he have been able to call the ball?
@AKStovall
@AKStovall 2 жыл бұрын
Merlin called it I believe (It wasn't Cougar's voice calling roger ball...) which would be an error in itself...
@SteamboatWilley
@SteamboatWilley 3 жыл бұрын
Another one you've missed: Jester states in a voiceover that "the planes you are flying against are smaller, faster and more manoeuvrable, just like the enemy MIGs", but an A-4 is actually a lot slower than an F-14.
@THEgenART
@THEgenART 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s a weird one. I think “quicker” instead of ‘faster’ would have been better. I think the only MiG at this time that was absolutely capable of a higher speed than the F-14 was the MiG 25.
@Rogar79
@Rogar79 3 жыл бұрын
and there's something that i really don't understand in that sequence: the hard deck was 10,000 feet right? Yet they were near ground level the entire time until the last engage o.o ... still loved that film anyway ;D
@familyhelpdeskhelpdesk270
@familyhelpdeskhelpdesk270 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rogar79 10,000 feet asl does not necessarily mean 10,000 feet higher than the mountains in the area. it would be correct to set the hard deck to a height that was safe clearance over most if not all of the terrain. still a stretch, i know, but......
@Rogar79
@Rogar79 3 жыл бұрын
@@familyhelpdeskhelpdesk270 understood! Thx man!
@spudeleven5124
@spudeleven5124 3 жыл бұрын
The reason the Navy chose the A4 for adversary was because of its maneuverability. Note that in air combat, speed isn't everything. This presenter's remarks about dogfights, which are fairly common among air combatants, are described as being a "knife fight in a phone booth". The A4 was later supplemented by the IAI Kfir at Miramar because of its superb maneuverability as well as its resemblance to then-contemporary adversaries, many of which were flying French aircraft, of which the Kfir was a derivative. Captured Iraqi and purchased post-Soviet MiGs provided additional adversary training. Never underestimate the ability of an aircraft: an exceptional plane can perform poorly in the hands of a crummy pilot, but even a marginal/unremarkable plane can be lethal when flown by a very good pilot. This is what Top Gun (the training program, not the movie) was all about.
@mmckenzie9367
@mmckenzie9367 3 жыл бұрын
First, thank you for serving our country, and second, thank you for your humility and professionalism. I've seen too many videos by so-called experts that seem to love the sound of their own voices. You, sir, have earned my respect. Subscribed.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome, sir. And thank you.
@jeffleake1960
@jeffleake1960 2 жыл бұрын
I found your channel last night and have been fascinated by your content I stayed up late into the wee hours bing watching . Haha , so thank you for messing up my sleep pattern
@jcfc8197
@jcfc8197 Жыл бұрын
I enlisted in the Navy in Nov. 1986. I was an AW/SAR Swimmer. It was the best 20 yrs of my life.
@Black-Opal
@Black-Opal 3 жыл бұрын
In a lot of the flying scenes over the ocean, suddenly mountains appear in the background.
@koori3085
@koori3085 2 жыл бұрын
There are mountains outside San Diego, just not those mountains! And they go from desert to ocean without crossing Orange Co! 😁
@erhman2004
@erhman2004 3 жыл бұрын
I was already in the Navy for 2 years when this came out. My folks came to visit me Hawaii where I was stationed and we went to see it at the theater. I was on a submarine, so all this aviation stuff did not mean a lot to me, but I was checking things out like uniforms and ribbon placement when I could see what they had for accuracy I thought it was a fun movie and when it was released on VHS, everyone got a copy and played it all the time at the barracks . Good times. "Talk to me Goose!"
@jamesbruce1183
@jamesbruce1183 2 жыл бұрын
Flat spin sequence - Goose says "Engine one is out" The following video shows engine 2 losing thrust.
@CaliforniaFly
@CaliforniaFly 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a Monty Python version of Top Gun. Heck, maybe I'll do it myself.
@michaelc9155
@michaelc9155 2 жыл бұрын
@@CaliforniaFly Hot shots! is (almost) what you are looking for
@CaliforniaFly
@CaliforniaFly 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelc9155 Roger Dead Meat!
@fcaughli
@fcaughli 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that also, surprised Ward didn't mention it, but there were probably quite a few more anyway. The movie after my one foray was plenty for me.
@tekvax01
@tekvax01 2 жыл бұрын
that always bugged me too!
@vinceboston7451
@vinceboston7451 2 жыл бұрын
Email? In 1986? We didn't really use email for that purpose in the Navy in 1986. "Aviators wouldn’t get orders at the Top Gun graduation. They’d get them via a frustrating process of arguing with their detailers via email and the occasional phone call over the period of a few months."
@stephenbritton9297
@stephenbritton9297 3 жыл бұрын
1) engine flame out... Goose says No1 engine, but from the video, it was the right hand, #2 engine. 2) you should do this with The Final Countdown also!
@elkarlos1
@elkarlos1 3 жыл бұрын
Being an F14 fan myself, I have DVDs of both movies, The Finial Countdown is by far the best movie if you love watching F14s flying.
@redsabreanakin
@redsabreanakin 3 жыл бұрын
@@elkarlos1 couldnt agree more. I love Top Gun...but the Tomcats vs the Zeroes with John Scotts music? Its just too awesome
@Shrike200
@Shrike200 3 жыл бұрын
The Final Countdown is the best F14 movie. I've said it before, I'll say it again....
@kensnyder3311
@kensnyder3311 3 жыл бұрын
@@elkarlos1 Love that movie!
@elkarlos1
@elkarlos1 2 жыл бұрын
@@kensnyder3311 Ken what did you think of the Supercarrier movies that came out soon after ?
@Neeso97
@Neeso97 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if this would be considered an error, but everyone in the movie is dripping in sweat every scene.
@Dunedain313
@Dunedain313 3 жыл бұрын
The two locations are Southern California and the Indian Ocean so....
@jonathannagel7427
@jonathannagel7427 3 жыл бұрын
So true, even when not playing volleyball!
@babboon5764
@babboon5764 3 жыл бұрын
Bab Boon Of course they're all sweating - That's because the director kept telling everyone how much each days shoot was costing.
@fredwerza3478
@fredwerza3478 3 жыл бұрын
Except Kelly McGillis --- she was wearing that sexy white blouse and not a drop of sweat anywhere
@jonathannagel7427
@jonathannagel7427 3 жыл бұрын
@@babboon5764 imagine working with Tom Cruise now, after that meltdown he had against the entire crew about masking up. Not raising a mask debate, just saying he went from an actor to producer with a lot of clout, much like his character Les in tropic Thunder
@cramersclassics
@cramersclassics Жыл бұрын
Your presentation style is excellent Ward. Great to get the inside story on the first one we all loved. As pilot, I cringed at the second Top Gun, Maverick. They lost me at the Mach 10 ejection and the silly mission. Non-pilots I spoke to loved it. What say you?
@cdmorrissy3692
@cdmorrissy3692 Жыл бұрын
I was in Vf-124 (Top Gun) in 1974, and I spent the last 3 years of my service in VF-1, so I do have a bit of knowledge about F-14's, and when I watched "Top Gun" in 1986, I spent a lot of time saying "That's bullshit" and "Oh, come on". I still liked the movie, but it did take a lot of "liberties" with reality.
@rogerkay8603
@rogerkay8603 3 жыл бұрын
Have carried the nickname "Mav" for 34 years. Love it, though I actually failed my RAF flying tests at Biggin Hill so have never flown a fast jet (prop jobs only). Another great video from you Ward, best subscription I've made in years. Despite its flaws, still an awesome film and must have been the best recruiting aid the USN ever had.
@rumrnr78
@rumrnr78 Жыл бұрын
We have a sim opening there (BH) for CAE if you want to teach!
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody got orders through email in 1986 lol. Great video though.
@aaronl5723
@aaronl5723 2 жыл бұрын
#12 the fuel dump.. Man the things Hollywood will do for effect... Scratching my head... Thanks for the download Ward.. Always interesting watching your video's.
@antr7493
@antr7493 Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was funny they got orders at the Top Gun graduation ceremony becasue there is a "emergency". They waited 24hrs for the pilots to get to the carrier and then they can go cover the rescue. I guess Principal Strickland(Back to the Future) was like Danny Glover's character in Flight of the Intruder.
@andrewpowers7034
@andrewpowers7034 3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised he missed this one - when everyone in the fighter pilot bar started singing Loving Feeling in unison. As an ex F4 jock I’ve been in a lot of fighter pilot bars and at no time did everyone start singing in unison.
@starga-fr7qx
@starga-fr7qx 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure WW1 and WW2 pilots did a lot of singing in unison around a piano..
@dbl2269
@dbl2269 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly this is an F-14 jock thing.
@frankbizzoco1954
@frankbizzoco1954 3 жыл бұрын
F-4 is my favorite jet of all time, and I envy you. I first saw pictures of F-4Ds my pop took when he was stationed in Thailand, and even as a little kid I knew that jet was damn awesome. You're pretty awesome in my book lol.
@johnfritz8571
@johnfritz8571 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an ex-Phantom Driver too and we never sang in the O-Club...until this movie came out. Then for a year or so after it was pretty commonplace!
@fredwerza3478
@fredwerza3478 3 жыл бұрын
I've been in a fair number of bars frequented by military and I never saw women as hot as a young Kelly McGillis LOL
@LucidDreamer54321
@LucidDreamer54321 3 жыл бұрын
You could have included the Top Gun trophy. There is no Top Gun trophy and never has been one.
@erickborling1302
@erickborling1302 3 жыл бұрын
Do all who complete some level at the Top Gun" school at NAS Fallon get an insignia to have sewn on their flight suits?
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 2 жыл бұрын
That one seemed odd to me even as a young teenager with very little knowledge of how the military worked. I knew they handed out decorations, ribbons, patches... but I was pretty dubious about a trophy. Trophies are for sports.
@thomasvaughn3511
@thomasvaughn3511 16 күн бұрын
I just watched Top Gun again in preparation for reading this post. Thanks for the chuckles! I remember you noting in an earlier post that the aviators' call signs would not have been on the top front of the flight helmets but on the bottom at the rear, so I have been paying attention to that. In the scene where Maverick flies with Sundown as his RIO, Sundown's call sign is, sure enough, on the top front of his helmet while he's flying. However, when he and Mav are arguing on the tarmac immediately after landing, his call sign disappeared from the front of his helmet. Then as he walks away from Mav there is a brief instant when it looks like there are letters on the bottom rear as you described, but I couldn't make out what it spelled. A continuity error, no doubt.
@AzMz6
@AzMz6 2 жыл бұрын
Very honestly without the exact details I knew there was a ton of technical errors, but it still doesn't change the entertainment value. I certainly appreciate your exact details though. Thank you so much for sharing!
@lloydlynn8084
@lloydlynn8084 3 жыл бұрын
As a famous Australian once said. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
@jemakrol
@jemakrol 3 жыл бұрын
The truth is only interesting if used to motivate viewers to watch the movie - despite possible shortcomings: "based on a true story" or if it's really far fetched (or bad): "inspired by a true story"... =)
@HarvestrX
@HarvestrX 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Democratic party said that!
@serinatang4184
@serinatang4184 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Mark Twain was Australian...
@lloydlynn8084
@lloydlynn8084 3 жыл бұрын
I ll save you all the trouble. It was gangland murderer Mark Ckopper Read. He wrote several somewhat suspect books on his activities..en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_%22Chopper%22_Read
@sgriffiths1448
@sgriffiths1448 3 жыл бұрын
@@lloydlynn8084 was said LONG before Chopper Read. Kinda fitting quote tho to attribute to someone else. Ironic
@RTS907
@RTS907 3 жыл бұрын
I wish we could watch “Maverick”, they have been talking about it for years now. Thanks for the error count. The “flat-spin heading out to sea” has bugged me every time I’ve seen it. The sad thing is the great pilot forcing the spin died while attempting “just one more time!” Its a movie, people shouldn’t die for a movie, although lots do.
@leinbachjon
@leinbachjon 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ward I love the channel and enjoy learning from all of your insight and knowledge. While watching your video about common lingo and slang terms, you mentioned bingo was used for a fuel reference. While watching top gun (which I know is riddled with errors) I noticed one that you didn’t mention. Following the mig that iceman shoots down in the final dog fight, he says “bingo” following the shot. Me never being a navy pilot I don’t know if using a word like bingo in context to something not related to what it is usually stands for is and error in the movie, or is that not much of an error? Also I would love to see a video on some of the factual references in top gun (if there are any). Like for example some of the radio chatter and some of the other dialogue in the movie that might be factual and not just Hollywood. Thanks
@davidquinton-schein6486
@davidquinton-schein6486 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Ward, GREAT video(s). I linked your clips to my aerospace engineering class to help provide context for some of the concepts in class. Great stuff. That being said, since we are being pedantic, I have one (minor) correction to one of your claims: you address (starting at 2:15 and specifically at 2:25) that if the F-14 and the "MiG-28" (actually a two-seater F-5F) were in "a 4G inverted dive" at that range that their V-Stabs would interfere catastrophically. Sadly, that's not correct. 1) To start, the Tomcat has a tip-to-toe length of 62' 9". The Tiger II measured only 51' 4". That 11' 5" allows plenty of room behind the Tiger for the Tomcat's V-Stabs to just hang out there. Additionally, with the Tomcat having two V-Stab, they would have been oriented wide enough to not be torched by the exhaust of the Tiger (more on that in point 2). 2) While the planes are in a very odd orientation considering their wings would be at an 8.87° convergent angle and tip-to-toe, they'd be at an overall 5.59° convergent angle, that can *maybe* be controlled by elevators and some tricks with the wings, so it's not really anything to be completely bugged about, but more on that later. What is noteworthy about that orientation, however, is that it would give additional room for the "MiG-28" V-Stab to not hit the rear fuselage of the F-14. The F-14, as you pointed out, had essentially a "lifting body" (as many fighter planes do, including to a degree, the F5F), the "hips" of the Tomcat are wide from the top, but low when viewed from the side. In other words, combining orientation and geometry of the aircrafts, the Tiger's VStab wouldn't interfere with the rear fuselage of the Tomcat. Then, of course, as noted above, even IF the Tomcat only had one VStab, this orientation would put it beyond the reach of the Tiger's exhaust, further insulating the "vertical tail planes." 3) Finally, as you imply/state in your video, many of the scenes (including this one) show the aircraft flying horribly close together. Sadly, that's mostly a consequence not of Hollywood camera/post-production tricks like those used in Harry Potter and The Hobbit/Lord of the Rings to fiddle with the scale of the size of the actors, but rather director Tony Scott's insistence that the planes actually fly in such tight formation. While the pilots didn't love the idea, they were actual Top Gun instructors who were able to perform those maneuvers while being filmed from chase planes. The in-cockpit shots were on the ground, in studio. At the orientation shown (convergent 5.6° or 8.9°, depending on measure; we are not shown relative AOA, I don't think), the cockpits are almost parallel (likely the goal of the cinematography). That puts the Tomcat's apparent angle at 1.3° and the Tiger II's at -2.27°, a *divergence* of 3.57°. When compared, then, to the actual convergent angles of the planes, 4) Based on (3), since we see Tom Cruise and Anthony Edwards through the canopy, that shot was, pretty much guaranteed, done in-studio and stitched together with post-production love. However, as noted in (1) and (2) it *could* have been done (though it would be ridiculously stupid and pointless from a tactical standpoint and the "MiG-28" would probably have flown up into the F-14 anyway, due to the convergent angles of the crafts and the low pressure that should exist between them, pulling them even closer together. However, suppose the crafts were oriented such that their wings were parallel- arguably easier to maintain the distance, then the MiG would have appeared to be at a 6.8° down angle while the Tomcat would have appeared to be at 5.64° up angle, a combined divergent angle of 12.44°, which would have likely caused the audience a great deal of confusion while they, uninformed of how tandem seat airplanes are typically arranged, argued that the planes *should* have been flying away from each other if they were in those relative orientations. Conclusion: Respectfully, I submit that you are incorrect about the stab-slice, though highly likely correct that this event could not have occurred in the way that they portray it in the highly Hollywood-ized film.
@bikkies
@bikkies 3 жыл бұрын
This was a lot of fun. It's always good to hear from someone that actually knows what instrumentation is visible from which seat. I also boggle at that scene where Mav just "hits the brakes". Let's slow this thing down by applying full thrust, that sounds like a plan.
@techgunz275
@techgunz275 2 жыл бұрын
Well by applying the power to full you need that thrust to push you up and not stall when you pull up
@mjw1955
@mjw1955 3 жыл бұрын
And don't forget having the F-14's cannon sound like a machine gun, when it's a gatling gun which would go BRAAAAP!
@laurentzduba1298
@laurentzduba1298 3 жыл бұрын
During my ROTC days back in 1989, I was assigned to spray cooling water to an M-61 Vulcan 20 mm gatling gun being fired from a parked Northrop F-5. Only worn minimal earplugs and almost got totally deaf and instead of my ears ringing, I hear only white noise - akin to the blank spaces on the FM tuner for 2 weeks. Luckily, my hearing returned to normal. BTW, the sound the M-61 Vulcan makes is akin to the bass riff intro of Elastica's Connection - only its a really, really loud WRRR....
@bronco5334
@bronco5334 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurentzduba1298 No you didn't, because the F-5 didn't carry an M61. It carried two M39 cannon. (Or in the case of the F-5F, a single M39). M39 are single barreled, multiple chamber "revolver" cannons, not gatling guns. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M39_cannon
@laurentzduba1298
@laurentzduba1298 3 жыл бұрын
@@bronco5334 our commandant said it was an M-61 Vulcan same one retrofitted on Vietnam War era F-4 Phantoms - unless I misread the plaque / badge of it. Back around 1989, there were already plans to replace the F-5s with F-16 the next semester in the airbase we were assigned to. After my ROTC stint, I concentrated on my carrer as a rock musician. If pressed, I can't even remember now how to tell apart the T-38 from the F-5.
@freddurst2758
@freddurst2758 2 жыл бұрын
The Final Countdown got the M61 sound right
@helifanodobezanozi7689
@helifanodobezanozi7689 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are all wrong. At no point in the movie Top Gun does a F-14 ever use guns! Only the "Mig-28" ever uses it's cannons, which fires frozen turkeys at 300 rounds per min!!!
@boonamai8926
@boonamai8926 6 ай бұрын
I am almost 100% sure he moved the manual wing sweep forward to act as an airbreak, not the throttles
@barbaradavis393
@barbaradavis393 2 жыл бұрын
That was fun, Ward. I picked up on most of those, except the cockpit instrument details. As an engineer, I annoy my friends going "No, no, no!" when I see stuff like the inverted F-14 playing dueling fins with the "Mig." Keep it up.
@johnbarton7168
@johnbarton7168 3 жыл бұрын
I still love the fact that when Mav hits the breaks during the first top gun engagement - a rather expensive camera rips off the F14
@samanthashafer1742
@samanthashafer1742 3 жыл бұрын
Wait really? Oh my god that's hilarious. All the stories I've heard about the filming were Tom's first ride in a Tom cat, Anthony Edwards flipping a circuit breaker behind his seat, and how Michael Ironside saw the filming of the pass with the Tomcat flying at rooftop level.
@williamsimmons7417
@williamsimmons7417 3 жыл бұрын
Iiiuuuuhuuj
@happypapi1903
@happypapi1903 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure a lot of Russian pilots laugh at this attempt at the Cobra maneuver.
@FreeFlyerUk
@FreeFlyerUk 3 жыл бұрын
Brakes
@davetee116
@davetee116 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone breaking down the technical facts of the movie. I am not a pilot but found the description of actual flight controls in certain situations fascinating. You're right. I will never watch Top Gun the same way again. It will be Interesting to see how much the director gets right in the new movie. Thanks for your analysis!
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for watching, Dave!
@davidhigginbotham9042
@davidhigginbotham9042 Жыл бұрын
So just I am on showtime and before watching MAVERICK I thought I would watch the original to get a feel for it since it was decades past and was shocked to see so many illogical and idiotic things in the first sixteen minutes of that movie. I immediately thought Commander Ward Carroll RIO would have a lot to say about this "Hollywood suspension of disbelief." As always you never disappoint.
@bushwackcreek
@bushwackcreek 3 ай бұрын
Back in '86 I was a QM2 in a Reserve (skimmer) unit in San Antonio, Texas. Our Naval Control of Shipping unit seemed to be a landing pad for pilots and bubble head officers as there were no Air units in San Antonio. We welcomed an LT F-14 pilot who had just left active duty from a carrier in the Med... I think the JFK. Anyway, he set us straight on all the reality vs. cinema depictions. Having been active duty in the Coast Guard and actually conned a ship as a QM2, I was embracing my new roles in the Navy but felt that the "E's" and "O's in the Coast Guard were better trained and had more responsibilities and authority than my new Navy counterparts. As a CG watch officer at a rescue station on the Texas coast, I had the authority as an E5 to order CG aircraft to sortie out of NAS Corpus Christi to assist in our missions... at 22 years old. Heady stuff, but we were up to it.
@eldridgefelder3427
@eldridgefelder3427 3 жыл бұрын
"He wouldn't fly parade formation with a wingman who has been shot with a lot of bullets." - Ward. Good catch! I completely forgot he was shot to hell. Haha.
@WardCarroll
@WardCarroll 3 жыл бұрын
Thx, Eldridge!
@sparkyguitar0058
@sparkyguitar0058 3 жыл бұрын
Hay. Iceman stayed in the fight so it wasn't too bad. Maybe he thought it was a A-10
@mdmoore37
@mdmoore37 3 жыл бұрын
LOL... I love the movie but I never really thought about how ridiculous the parade formation would have been. Not only were they all shot up but I recall they even shut down one of the engines!
@CoffeeMatt10
@CoffeeMatt10 3 жыл бұрын
@@mdmoore37 that would also require a lot of functional engine and rudder correction, he should’ve been out of that fight after the first burst, but even better was after the second burst Iceman says “we’re hit again”, Slider replies “both engines are functioning we’re ok”... 🤷🏻‍♂️
@SPQRTempus
@SPQRTempus 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoffeeMatt10 I thought Slider said all systems not both engines, especially since Iceman had already shut the left engine down after the first burst.
@wendyhendricks7819
@wendyhendricks7819 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone missed the most important aspect of TOPGUN, the real TOPGUN. There were many women enlisted as well as female officers who really worked there, I was stationed at TOPGUN when the movie was made. I worked endless extra hours and went to many deployments to make this movie possible. Our squadron really took great pride and effort to make sure everyone was safe and it was a great time. The real TOPGUN has women working. When we were sitting in the premiere they did for us, and the credits rolled it was very hurtful that they did not recognize any of the women who made this movie, only the men. They went as far to ensure while filming no women were in any of the scenes nor were allowed to participate as extras in the background. Many of the background personnel were actual TOPGUN enlisted and officers. The migs in the movie were our Northrop F5’s that we trained the incoming squadrons pilots with while attending TOPGUN. The F5 planes were an integral part of the school, along with the A4’s used in the movies. They had the best simulation at the time for training purposes. The USNavy would not let them paint the F5’S black for the film due to the corrosive additive it would incur, so they were rubber coated for every flight. Watch the opening scene and look at the bottoms of the migs. You will see white spots where the coating is coming loose from the plane. They were peeled and resprayed for every flight and each scene. The two seater F5 is my baby, I was an electrician and a plane captain, and it has my name painted on it under the black rubber. It was a super fun experience, and being a member of TOPGUN was the best thing I ever did. I learned so much. What you also never see in the movie is how amazingly well the enlisted and officers worked side by side and what a close knit group this squadron really was. Not sure about now, but it rocked when I was there.
@jonathanstill4701
@jonathanstill4701 3 жыл бұрын
That's the sexiest thing I've ever heard a woman talk about. You are so cool,Capt.Hendricks. I'd follow you into the ladies room anytime...
@CincinnatiDan
@CincinnatiDan 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome perspective, thanks for sharing. Rarely do the enlisted airmen, soldiers, sailors get the respect they richly deserve.
@Fox2-Videos
@Fox2-Videos 3 жыл бұрын
My dad flies for TOPGUN now! It's now referred to as NAWDC right now, but TOPGUN is definitely better lmao
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A 3 жыл бұрын
How's the F/A-18 perform as an aggressor compared to its ancestor, the F-5?
@wendyhendricks7819
@wendyhendricks7819 3 жыл бұрын
Maverick followed Charlie into the ladies room. It’s a TOPGUN tradition. 😂
@1abc219
@1abc219 Жыл бұрын
another error - Charlie had a PhD in astrophysics - which is (according to google): Astrophysics is a branch of space science that applies the laws of physics and chemistry to seek to understand the universe and our place in it. The field explores topics such as the birth, life and death of stars, planets, galaxies, nebulae and other objects in the universe - and this is not related to aircraft design...
@jackwhatever4749
@jackwhatever4749 2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember the last time I had a good laugh like watching Top Gun through your eyes. Thanks my friend.
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