''I'm curious, what's the limit of mortality?'' Ken are you an Orokin by any chance?

Damage reduction CAN go higher than I've shown - I just drew a line at a billion fold reduction in damage!

Ken are probably the Warframe content creator that I really enjoy. Not having a click bait title (super OP melee weapon that u can't miss), and having a human voice (this is kinda important if u decide to watch the video multiple time), and backed up his video with statistic and analysis. Not hating on other KZfaqr, but this is just my cup of tea. Its narration is clear enough for a non-english native speaker for me to understand. I am a science student myself, so I really enjoyed this kind of presentation. Thank you Ken, really wished you didn't bend to the trend when you hit that 100K subscriber.

Oh… now I understand why Adaptation is so good. That last bit with Endurance Drift actually helps put things into perspective.

Ancient healer should be an honorable mention because it gives 90% DR to any frame

Love it. As always very well researched. You forgot that the MIGHTY SEER gives a million free armour when equipped

Love your approach for all the videos, I'd love even more to see your take on the damage reduction mechanics for bosses/liches/demolysts and strategies to counteract it

Titania gets 50% evasion in Razorwing, that might explain the extra DR you noticed. Also, how about a video on enemy DR? Liches/Sisters and things like the Plague Star boss don't use the standard formula I think

Absolutely love your videos mate. Not only do you provide awesome tips/advice, you go into the minutiae as to why things function as they do, which (for me at least) helps me understand the mechanics so much more than other Warframe youtubers. Keep it up lad 👍

Amazing video! Please do one for enemies, especially those pesky steel path demolishers, acolytes and liches/sisters!

These kinds of videos are exactly why I'm subbed to you. Good one.

Honestly it works how I thought it did. But I'm really glad you did this video with the testing to know for sure. Nice one Kengineer.

I use a meme armour build and adaption for Grendel and a load of blue shards. Even without armour from eating enemies he is a tough nut to crack. Just charge in and melee away.

I always smile when I see another Lavos main. Nice to know somebody else noticed my favorite nuker/tank hybrid.

Thanks for another great upload, this is really amazing 🔥😊

If you like stacking damage reduction, try baruuk: his third ability gives up to 90%, fourth gives 40% and his passive gives 50%. To gain that 90% on the third ability you need to have 9 daggers on yourself, which is not a problem giving that at 300% ability strenght he generates more than 20 daggers, they are slow to proc, and you can go with negative range to keep them on like 3 meters max (using your first doubles the daggers range if you need to use them more). Add adaptation for +90% damage reduction and change his second ability for eclipse, +75% reduction in the dark and +400% bonus damage when in the light. Immortality achieved without losing damage or any arcane/buff

What about Hellminth Invigoration effects on abilities that have scaling DR? Because I seem to recall some youtubers testing Duration invigorations with Nova's Nullstar and finding that it allows her to go to 100% DR

You are actually the best Warframe KZfaq period. So informative yet keeps you intrigued, and always brings me back to watch more. Keep up the great work man!

Now that you have done Warframe Damage reduction, I'd be interested in a video about Acolyte damage reduction. I couldn't even find anything on the wiki.

Had to come to this video cuz I felt crazy after arguing w someone who tried to tell me adaptation was worthless on any frame that already had damage resistance on it cuz like 😮‍💨

Ty for this type of videos

Nice video, I do notice titania being a loooot more tankier which is also why I use her for index runs, also if you don't mind what's your Mesa build?

Thanks for this video. I'd heard something about how it worked for years being revamped recently; the Eidolon 100% strat being nerfed and the new Null_Star invigoration strat. So Mod DR is no longer additive? (Eg Aviator & Lightning_Rod) Not that that 100% single type DR was ever very useful. Also, I thought Adaptation gave stacks for all damage, but only applied reduction to the dominant type on each shot? Though I heard something about that being reworked too.

Great explanation.

Great video

I did not know adaptation did that to the endurance test, I've always just used my OP's void mode.

See, what I'm getting from this is "Just slap Adaptation onto every Warframe build and you'll be good."

I kinda thought this was how armor worked out, but it's nice to have confirmation from someone who didn't give up on math in high school

Can u make a vid on most effective and efficient progression path for warframe to exp all content even after star chart :) Love ur vids ✌🏻

Ever since archon shards have been added I've been sticking in blue shard to lavos. I'm at 2/5 tauforged right now and with adaptation, umbra mods and psuedo-shield gating. I can tank steelpath while rocking the MIGHTY SEER

Great video ken. unfortunate how their isnt many options for extra dr on shields these days.

Kinda shows why i don't usually use adaptation, the fact you only get one damage type per enemy type. In some cases enemies don't deal one of the three physical damage types very often so your left with no absorption at all to that damage type. It's also why having low rank adaptation, while sounding still fine on paper, means if you get the rare missing IPS resitied it now only lasts a few seconds and you need to be hit by it a lot.

“What’s the limit to mortality?” Damn, I didn’t come to play Warframe for this kind of question.

Hey Kengineer, I'm actually using a damage reduction Mag by stacking Aerodynamic and Aviator. DE supposedly changed damage reduction stacking since update 30.5 (released July 6th on Switch) and it now a single instance each. However, the build I made still pretty much feels like 89% (25% from shields + 24% from Aerodynamic + 40% from Aviator) rather than 65.8% damage reduction (which isn't worth making a build for). The wiki page on Aviator has been updated on August 5th, before it said: "Can be used with Mod TT 20px.png Agility Drift to grant a 52% damage reduction while airborne. In addition, can be used with Agility Drift and Aerodynamic to grant 76% damage reduction while airborne. This type of damage reduction is capped at 90%." Which in theory should be outdated, but at 65.8% damage reduction my shields should be super weak. However, the Mag is chilling in the air in Steel Path long after the patch. It makes me wonder if aerial damage reduction is an exception in the code, since it is the one special case where they manually capped it at 90%. However, it could also be survivor bias: maybe the Adaptation and aim glide (adding evasion) is doing so much work it makes it feel tanky. But I'd imagine that 65.8% damage reduction shields would be almost one-shot in Steel Path, which it isn't. Hard to say.

It give the Option to use Schock absorbers + Adaptation to became Physical immune the countig to the same time !!

It also shows how absurdly unusable armor tanking is, not only is the basic armor mod extremely weak and the frames with high armor extremely rare, without more armor and healing from arcanes and abilities its never enough. Because enemies can easily deal over 50k in a shot at level cap, you would need 99.99 DR just to survive taking damage, thats why the damage mitigation strats with shield gating and rolling guard are far more build efficient and actually suited for any frame with shields. Also the focus school that makes the frames invisible is a usable option to get a break.

So, i"m a HIldryn main; so shock absorbers MIGHT actually be a good mod to look into, in favor of one of the smaller shield expanding mods I think I have equipped.

Odd question that couldn't get an answer for in testing with adaptation it always picks the biggest as the 1 that get reduced but what if the highest gets reduced below another damage type from the attack like 90 slash and 10 puncture at first slash would but once you get 90% on slash would it reduce puncture

Interestingly, Null Star is NOT capped. it says its capped because you can only reach so much duration normally, but with say a helminth invigoration you can achieve 100% damage reduction with ANY frame... until a star flies off so youre forced to run the augment.

Ok I have numbers I’m struggling to figure out because my chroma prime when his vex armour is full and I use cold elemental ward has 18,000 armour so what would his damage reduction be ? I also use adaptation

Interesting finds and great video

Fun fact: void dashing to ur warframe with vazarin gives u 100% dmg reduction

Could you break down how these things work specifically with iron skin on rhino? I think Nezha’s defense skill works the same way. I’m not aware how damage resistances or armor impact those extra health bars or if you just add a huge amount of raw health that the enemies need to burn through.

Reduction stacking is viable just barely because all frames need 1 slot for str and 4 for null star duration and 1 augment. (Because Im out of slots on Mesa Prime) I used Gara in sp infested incursion, she had no problems tanking those nasty toxin clouds

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Hi Ken, very late question, can you confirm whether or not armor reduces damage of status effects? Something like electricity status effect that does damage over time

0:35 i need that volt build

I found a build that can give valk prime a total armor of 9647 and a total health pool of 1350 HP and her EHP is 44942, not quite immortal but still up there in tankiness and this is also without adaptation since I couldn't fit it in there

this i might be a change since made video When damage is reduced from armor, each damage type has a minimum damage of 1. E.g. a Braton Braton will always do a minimum of 3 damage against an armored target regardless of how high their armor value is, as it has 3 different damage types. Non-Armor sources of damage reduction do not have such a behavior. - warframe wiki 8:41 said would take no damage.

Trinity 99% bless, miss you

mumbo jumbo of warframe is back

Its weird that theres both the innate resistances and also several enemies have hidden damage reduction

quick question, do you think firewall would do much on the parazon. It has a 75% damage deduction while hacking, but I'm not sure if I should use something else instead

:Explains how the math works for DR so people can understand it and theoretically test their own builds outside of pure meta or bugs/exploits. Explicitly states more than once that he isn't referencing immortality states: "Naaah, bro, you can just go invincible by doing this bug and exploit [youtuber x] said!" It's like some folks don't even watch videos and go straight into the comment section.

I forgot Shock Absorbers with a thing. Primed Shock absorbers when?

Can someone tell me what is the armor cap in the game? If theres not how far can you go? For example Inaros prime has a base armor value of 225 with scarab swarm he boosts that to 450 (its not affected by mods I think) with arcane he can get plus 2400 and with mods in a normal build another 600 so thats around 3500 armor + adaptation 90% since my Inaros has 9000 hp thats means I have 1140000 EHP (pls correct me). And my last question is does it worth it? I don't have the arcanes yet so I just want to know if I should get them into my build or it will be too much.

3:35 I wonder what would happen to the game if you could get a perfect 100% stacking reduction. As you get closer you get to 100% (or just 1) the EHP gets exponentially larger. Mathematically speaking, a pure 100% is impossible because then you would be dividing by zero (1-100% = 0). I'm sure that's probably why the game won't let you actually achieve a pure 100% stacking reduction.

U can subsume chroma's ability for even more armor. On u, or one of ur teammates.

Do you report your findings (bug wise) to the forums?

Why not mention Baruuk? He has (1 - ( 1 - 50%) [Passive] * ( 1 - 90%) [Desolate Hands] * ( 1 - 40%) [Serene Storm]) * 100 = 97% DR BASE KIT, which beats out Mesa. He takes 40% less damage and he has 50 more armor. Which is a lot if you don't add extra on either frame. He is my go-to SP frame, because he can be pretty much immortal with just adaptation on top. Good video, but I'm a bit sad...

It shuold be noted that with invigorations, Null Star can provide 100% DR, but that's effectively immortality.

if you use an unintended duration(?) bonus with null star (basically only helminth) you can scale it so it gets enough stars to give you 100% resistance anyway

I'm a bit sad that rolling is only 20% dr anymore - it feels rather small for the fact that you're giving up shooting for that time and lock yourself into a rather stiff movement.

7:50 Me as an actual engineer by profession: congratulations, u just achieved the 6th sigma level for damage reduction.

coaction drift bugged? well thats important news... and here i was thinking i was quietly slightly boosting my whole squad with it

spoiler: it reduces the damage u take 😳

Can you show on Titania?

apparently now adaptation now has a max of 99% damage reduction.

So i created a grendel 3k hp infinite energy with 90% damage reduction on my second week of playing this game?

You say you get 20%DR when rolling, I thoought it was 75%? Do I have the wrong info or was it nerfed?

New players: Come on, it can't be that difficult, it is just a single value like 30% . TheKengineer: Are you sure about that?

May i request for liches enemy reduction too?

What about over-guard

Valkyr has absurd DR from her natural armour and the WarCry ability, on top of immortality with Hysteria. She really hates dying huh?

Laughs in Gauss

hey mr. kengineer sir, i got 2 video ideas if ya wanna try em out if ya like to and wanna here your personal opinion; best bonus elements on kuva/tenet weaponry. best stances per melee category. (having a hard time lf the best stances with good 'flow' and nice dps)

i just ran mesa prime, umbral vitality, intensify and fiber, all rank 8. 51.7%armor, 1255 HP, effective hp of 2828. 187% power strength got me 95%DR on shatter shield. if i did my math correctly, she has 56560 effectiveHP on health. is 56k HP not enough for void storms in veil proxima? i keep getting decimated by electric procs, and i'm not sure what is hitting me with electric procs.

How to calculate the average DR from Adaptation? Why is it 80% in this case?

ahh yes very, very cool, now how about evasion? 🤔

Frost base armour is 500 👀

Wait, I thought damage resistance in the air was capped at 90% or is that only for stacking air resistance mods?

What’s the glaive prime build

Rhino be like What kind of witch craft is this ?

As far as I know the most tanky warframe in terms of pure ehp is nidus prime who with the right build can hit a total of 3.9 million ehp. Dont know of any other frames that can come close to that.

please post your fumin build dude

2 Things: 1.) You Didn't factor in The Helminth buffs. 2.)Can you do this kinda thing for Oberon, i wanna see the theoretical hightest stat i can get for Renewal.

hildryn has 300 base armor, let that sink in

Here's a fun thing that i found out by another KZfaqr recently You can actually get 100% dmg reduction If you have nova subsume antimatter and a invigoration with duration nothing will dmg you as long you dont lose the charges

eh... you forgot shields of shadows augment :) it can be better lol

Me eyeballing warding thurible and adaption to become immortal

Obviously the best damage reduction in the game is the ALMIGHTY LIMBO! Damage reduction is moot when you can ignore all damage entirely.

Warframe is the only game i know where players actually have to do maths to optimize their gameplay.

I love how he said "B E C O M E G O D" at the end. Ghost Data would be proud 🤣

Novas null star can make you immortal. It says that the dr is capped at 90% but that’s only cuz the highest lvl of duration will only get you enough balls to give you 90% but if you get a 100% or a 200% duration invig and max duration on the frame u put null star on you can become invincible

Nic3

and Baruuk? where is Baruuk?

as a wise man once said; "IM FUCKING INVINCIBLE"

I love coding

You test this and get 99% damage reduction omg dud there is no way you get 99% damage reduction. Damage reduction works like this adaptation 90% and the enemies does 10,000 damage 90%-10,000 =1,000 damage then if you use an ability like mesa shatter shield 95%-1,000= 50 damage then your armor reduction take remaining 50 sir this is how damage reduction works in the game it break down the the damage giving u more reaction time with shield gating