not bad sir, you make good content

You'll be fine...

dont worry Zarya is coming out... i mean Hyldrin

Funny they just uploaded an update

Not bad but i kinda think banshee could be allittle higher mostly because of quite shy's death wish build ive tested it with my not so good mods and even i can say its good but otherwise i like the list

Wukong 2 Electric Boogaloo

a Complete re imagining

Wukong is good for clubbing. If you get his colors just right his Iron Staff looks like a glow stick.

Yeah the only ability that doesn't need changes is defy... Even the passive with damage 3.0

Movie Adaptation too

Is there an actual number out yet? I'd love to hear it!

sadly no but its rarer than a pizza delivery on time

Once. I've seen him once in two weeks. Didn't drop anything either, no mods, no parts, nothing.

@Thej Yhome feel same when farming stalkers

Snow It’s going to raise as the nightwave goes further

SHE'S GOOD NO KILL ME PLEASE

I am vauban main and I think he deserves to be in valkyrs place he is not good but I love him

Naahh, the entire map isn't allowed to do anything if Vauban exists on the team; I can't really in good faith put him in doody tiers for that sole reason

@@TriburosOnline map isnt allowed to do anything as long as they dont have a nullifier...yea...the bubble needs to touch the grenade but they can reach it pretty fast while running, most of player doesnt even see them coming cause walls and such obscure the vision

i expected him to be in wukong tier as well, funny thing is that wukong is not entirely useless with the jab augment and arca titron, yes its kinda gimmicky...but it works pretty damn well

Nullies having to specifically touch the orb is probably his saving grace actually. They easily could have made it like Limbo where if you make a 60m Cataclysm, if a nully touches any part of it, it'll disappear. Remember that every frame has to deal with nullies. Vauban has a pretty nice advantage in that he's a little less effected by them because of that one caveat. But nah, in this case they have to get right up to the orb. Which is handy, especially because of the nully nerfs that have happened over the recent year.

Its the well know rivens mods i think

Tyrael 567 whooosh

You use viral? Newb

U Fuk Que? You no fight infested?

@Manuel Miko Delola nuh uh only nerd use viral and slash

@Tiny lil' Fire Cat ill raise your ivara with my chroma

That's a weird way of spelling THE MIGHTY SEER....

Nidus is not pleased

Nezha has better iron skin

*Flexes in Rhino

Laughs in exalted blade

Laughs in whipclaw

@@alraunedee8973 nice

*laughs in defy*

Hey now that's not true, I think the only poop fashion frame I have is my Nyx how dare u I spend a lot of time making my Hydroid a spooky ghoast pirate and my Mirage lookin like Jevil and even my Revenant looking like an actual Teralyst and my Atlas looking like some weird Grineer abomination project AND DONT YOU DARE NEGLECT MY NEKROS . . . . . I just like Loki better

The entire game would be better if armour scaling wasn't so horrble! ...But at this point, I have every right to think that DE doesn't understand how to properly scale things.

Ember lacks armor but has offensive abilities and that sucks. Loki lacks armor but has a wide cc kit and that's awesome.

Same because honestly despite being low tier most of them just shit on baruuk who's only saving grace is mediocre cc at best and even then he easily out classes by basic bitch builds on low tier frames

@@Falter007 For Ember the only defensive mod I use is adaptation and I keep Immolation on and it seems to fair well Except for Steel Path

Agreed, why waste standing on fishing rods when you can just shimmy in place before each cast

but... ivara can fish from wherever she wants?

o darn u right, gotta fix that up in part 2

@@KonoNana Explain this, you have intrigued me.

@@Imperiallife3349 navigator works with fishing poles (at least it did last time i tried it, also it isn't that useful, still funny once in a while)

True, that's why I main Nezha, tanky, big dps with chakram, and FAST missions, hope trib listen to ya

Personally, I find that her passive makes her easier to maneuver, and super fast, because air travel is much easier. Her 1 is the struggle for traveling in areas that aren't plains/fortuna. Volt I think stays down because he's so squishy, Nezha at least to high tier. or top tier because trap

agreed

+Loki has the fastest raw sprint speed in the game but triburos probably knows that being a loki main

Personally didn't have a problem controling zephyr. She handels differently, but only in that you have more control then what you are used too. Also we kind of have operatos if we want speed.

I feel the pain my friend. :'(

Valkyr is my most used frame, and i think she is in a great place. Valkyr is a beast that cannot be killed, can deal an insane amount of damage to single targets (bosses and highly armored grineer), her sound design isawesome and she can make any melee weapon enjoyable. I would (and do) take Valkyr every time over let's say Volt, a frame that i hate with a burning passion. Garuda is also pretty good. I use her from time to time and her loop is really fun.

Honestly I think Garuda works well. But remember that frames like Equinox and Saryn exist for wide damage coverage. Its hard competition for her Valkyr needs a rework badly after the nerfings she got, yeah

Triburos I kinda play Garuda as a Warframe that can heal people and take hits with no energy problems at all, basically, a support attacker, support with the 4 and 2, and Attack with 1, and use 3 when I need energy, I run Quick thinking and Rage with her, when she is healing herself, and taking hits, I get my energy back as well, I Guess I made her a Budget unlimited energy build

Triburos and I do hope Valkyr does get better, and Zephyr, Garuda and the other 2 are my favourite Warframe's that are at the lower tiers, which is a bit sad, I love how they look, and play, but sadly, they can' t do that much

I plan on getting Nezha. Can you give me a few pointers on how to mods him? Can he do both support and super high dps at the same time? How does he stack up against premier damage dealers? Also, all those roles that you mentioned..can he fulfill multiple roles at the same time?

I agree with all of your points, I definitely think he should have been rated higher. However, specifically in regards to his team buff with Safeguard, I think Gara's Splinter Storm is almost strictly better. Nezha's Warding Halo has great scalability through the 3-second invulnerability mechanic at the beginning of casting, but this can be extremely difficult to time correctly when casting on allies, especially in PUBs; this often leaves allies with relatively weak shields, which must be recasted often. Splinter Storm also provides a 90% damage reduction for teammates, but isn't limited by a health-pool. This gives it infinite scalability, and fewer recasts during high level missions. It also has the added benefit of of not requiring an augment, freeing up mod space. I think Nezha's strengths lie in his personal survivability, team damage buff, great CC, and the ludicrous amounts of health and energy orbs he can make using Reaping Chakram. Honestly, I only use Safeguard if I'm playing with new players. I generally find that I'm better off using the mod slot to boost my other abilities to better help the team. Still, the very fact that he has this augment just makes him even more of a jack-of-all-trades. I think he's one of the most versatile frames in terms of mission types he can handle, and he's definitely one of my favorite frames. Way more fun to play than Rhino or Gara, to be sure.

@@Tymbee the main problem I've had with gara's 2 is that it runs on duration. Because of the way nezha works, his 3 makes teammates a lot less dependant on him, wheras with gara's 2, you have to recast on a timer.

​@@shirshanyaroy287 (Apologies in advance for the wall of text) Yeah, he can definitely fulfill all those roles at the same time. He's one of the most versatile frames in the game. In comparison to other DPS frames: if you *just* want to kill things, there are probably better frames. Saryn has possibly the best AOE damage, and Chroma the best single-target. But in exchange for some straight damage, you get much better Survivability, Support, Speed and Crowd Control. And it's not like his damage is bad, in star-chart missions, you can easily straight up kill enemies, and even most sortie enemies. If you go like an hour into a defense, you'll have to rely more on your damage multiplier from your 2 if you can't instantly kill enemies, but you're still doing a s**t-ton of damage. This is my build here: goo.gl/U7VBYz , but it's a bit forma-heavy and uses Umbral mods. This is a very nice 0 forma build I just made: goo.gl/BmbHtN . His 2, Blazing Chakram, doubles as his primary support and DPS skill. It does damage by itself, but the important part is that it multiplies the damage enemies take, and makes them drop bonus health and energy orbs on death. The bonus damage is effected by power strength, in my build it does almost x3 damage. Using this, the whole team deals more damage, and gets health and energy. If you hit an enemy who's already under the effects of your 4, it spawns extra chrakrams which seek out enemies, potentially spawning more chakrams. You can wipe out huge squads of enemies by doing this 4-2 combo. His Reaping Chakram augment further amplifies its damage and health drops. In terms of modding, you want to have at least decent numbers in all 4 stats, so corrupted mods probably aren't a great choice unless you balance them out. -Strength is probably your most important stat, as it determines your damage, damage multiplier, and Halo-HP/survivability. Mine's at nearly 200%. -Duration is very important, as it effects how long your 2's damage multiplier lasts, and how long your 4 lasts (and also how long your 1 lasts, but his is easy to recast). I just use Primed Continuity for 155%, and that's good enough. -Range really only effects his 4, but don't underestimate it's usefulness. With enough range you can shut down entire rooms of enemies while you and your teammates pick them off. Like I said before, using your 2 on an enemy effected by your 4 spawns an extra seeking chakram, which can itself spawn more chakrams; this is how you apply the damage bonus to all enemies with only one cast of your 2. Simply put, more range means more enemies hit by your 4, and more enemies means your 2 does more damage (especially if you use Reaping Chakram, as this multiplies the damage). My Range is 175%, which gives my 4 a 33m radius. -Efficiency is somewhat important, because Nezha likes to spam abilities. I just use Streamline and leave it at 130%, but you could also swap Streamline for Flow/Primed Flow instead, and leave it at 100%. I definitely wouldn't put it below 100%. My final thoughts: If you only have normal Continuity, you might be better off dropping some Range in exchange for more Duration by replacing Auger Reach with Auger Message; However, I ***HIGHLY*** recommend you get Primed Continuity. Low Duration Nezha is a sad Nezha as you can't CC effectively, and your damage buff is spotty. Low Range sucks, because it makes him hard to play on large maps. Also, Primed Continuity is good for other frames, lots of them need Duration. Definitely worth getting. In the 0-forma build, I used Power Drift in the Exilus slot, but don't feel married to it. A 15% difference in Power Strength isn't going to make *that* big of a difference on a build. Just use whatever you like. I use Maglev in my main build because it stacks with Nezha's passive, making my slides ludicrously fast. If you have Umbral Intensify, you definitely don't need Power Drift. If you're having trouble managing your energy, Equilibrium is a nice option. With Nezha's 2 (especially with Reaping Chakram), you'll have health orbs out the wazoo. Though I find that his 2 alone gives enough energy orbs. Don't use Rage/Hunter Adrenaline, it's a trap. The amount of actual damage you take is so small you get nearly no return from it, and it also takes forever to get through your shields to damage your health. It's better for frames like Inaros, Nidus, or Oberon who take lots of health damage. Nezha takes barely any damage at all. If you're casting your 2 often, you shouldn't even need it. Adaptation only effects your actual health, your Halo still takes full damage. The only survivability mod you need is Vitality. Steel Fiber is nice because it increases the base HP of your Halo, but you're better off just increasing Power Strength. With Power Strength as opposed to armor, you get slightly less base HP for your Halo, but you get much more bonus HP from 3-second invulnerability period at the beginning of casting. This bonus HP is why Nezha scales so well. You can't rely on the baseHP in high level missions, it's too low. Plus, Power Strength helps your other abilities as well. Similarly, Health Conversion is a bit of trap as well. Because of Blazing Chakram, you can easily keep this up all the time, but it only effects the base HPof your Halo. Adding armor mods in general isn't a *bad* choice for defense, but in low level missions it's overkill, and in high level missions the base Halo HP isn't enough.

@@Tymbee do you have another build with the mod for the 3rd ability?

I will speak of mag she's a nice lass

Mag is a glass cannon therefore not worth using at high level content.

Have you ever bubbled a turret? Most satisfying thing in warframe

You're wrong, mag is at its best at high level, where you can CC enemies and still do loads of damage when every other frames output fell off.

@@MrShnazer most frames become glass cannons at high level content, doesn't matter if it's been a glass cannon from the start

yes..Volt. mines is so fast, my teammate got angry.

@@tatotiteta my volt have either 237% strength or the other build with 265% range i had a mr 14 dude who was so fucking pissed cuz i killed 90% of everything at hydron.

Volt's 1 is a horrible CC because it can't be re-applied to enemies already affected by the stun. It's one of the only CCs in the game that have that problem, and his 4 has the exact same problem where enemies won't even take any more damage or cc if they're already affected by a previous instance of it. Capacitance extra Shields for survivability are not the best choice unless you're Hildryn; toxin and slash procs will still kill you regardless, and shields don't have any way of reducing damage taken to them like Health has with Armor. Volt also lacks shield gating, so his shields are just as bad as everyone elses, except Hildryn of course. His shock shields being able to be picked up means nothing because you could just play something like Gara or Nezha and give your team 360 degree 90% damage reduction, they don't have to aim the shield at in-coming damage, Nezha's and Gara's can reduce damage from things that Volt's shield *can't* block, and they also aren't restricted to only using their secondary. Also, it requires yet another augment to give them the ability to pick them up, and even pub team mates won't even know you're running it most of the time. Best CC in the game is a complete outright incorrect assumption; what kind of CC can't be refreshed on enemies already affected by it? Volt does a lot of things relatively well, but there's far better choices. Remember that one of the major notations for those in Mid is that they're "often overshadowed, but can do their jobs regardless." Volt fits that to a tee. There's plenty of other frames I'd rather play, but he still works. But he's nowhere close to my top list.

Oh my gosh! you noticed me! All great things you bring up, and I understand your assessment far better now!

IMHO and short as i can. Volt's 1 is bad. Just bad. Speed is good with the right build. Adap and some armor mods (umbral volt xd) and capit will actually make volt decently tanky, more than any others in his category atleast, and adap works on shields. Volt deployable shields are how you endurance run. They can be grabbed augment free now thanks to a small buff, but the grab is a gimmick as opposed to using them to lock down a hall, shocking them with the 1(its only use) and firing thru that. Duration matters. Also why i think Geruda deserves atleast High tier because of ability shields (and bc no one knows how to use her 1 with her 4 to nuke whatever you want dead in seconds) but i digress. Capi is dank CC in the low levels but falls off a bit before sortie unless you are fighting corpus. Dont take procs, or be too fast to get hit, or focus on CC and only come up for damage when its out, and Volt will take you far long as your team is ready to clean shit up. Sure saryn is better CC but that's like saying red lobster is better than mcdonalds but you dont feel like lobster for the 80th day in a row. She's boring and she kills fun for a team. 80% of the frames can be made amazing and endurance tier though building. Das all.

@@TriburosOnline Can we at least all agree on the fact that Volt Prime has the *highest* energy pool in the game? Lol (actually I haven't checked the stats on the new frames they've been putting out, but far as I know Volt is literally the Energizer Bunny, especially with Zenurik). Whichhhh... brings me to another point, Volt built properly also has some of the highest usability in the game as far as his abilities too. Especially Capacitance builds that focus on efficiency and duration for just flat CC, speed costs nothing, shields cost nothing, and even his 4 is far less of an energy cost than other frames' 4 in any situation where it's in constant repetitive use. And Speed also boosts reload speed as well, another ability you'll be hard pressed to find elsewhere useful (save mods). It makes survivals cheese and makes 50 waves feel like 5 minutes, with the right weapon builds of course. With for instance a Zeni at a doorway, shield up, using a high output AOE like the Zarr for instance (which btw each of the pellets when the round splits gets the dmg boost from the shield as well), speed when reloading and running out to pick up loot without ever needing to use your operator save every couple minutes or so to regen some energy, all at a minimal cost and max duration. And to top that off, anytime you slip up, simply CC with Capacitance, overshield, thin/destroy the mobs, rinse repeat. With the correct weapon build you can do MOT solo for hours. And the best part is, Volt isn't even a tank, he just *is* good at outlasting and outdamaging/outkilling. He could at least be lower-High tier. Just my 2 cents.

Volt is practically best at killing eidolons, when your range goes to 265% u just need to run thorugh extermination and press 4 once every 10 seconds and then we also got one of the best meme abilities "gotta go fast" HIGH TIER.

Yes, that's what a rework does

Funnily enough wukong is still in wukong tier. Just at a different point of the tier.

He should still be in his own tier. But this time near the top of the list.

Penta... (said like "toasty" in MK) ;]

@Manuel Miko Delola ...pssst... do not detonate them grenades... ;)

Ever tried Exergis with her 2? It's beautiful

Yet her best ability, her 3, is useless on infested and her 4 is too much of an energy hog to spam. I still use her all the time though, she's great for 66% of the game I guess

@@sladikk 175% efficiency and zenurik are kinda needed for her, with those i never ran into any energy problems.

Nyx can eat 700 energy on an absorb and have problems killing level 50 enemies, the sad part is that novas antimater augment turns the ability into a ranger absorb bubble, and is 100% better for 50 energy, Octavias 1 ability also uses the same gimmick and is one of the most powerful abilities in the game

@@GOLANX I'd like for them to scrap her 2 and give a minor version of that buff to her 3. Also for them to take away the damage absorbed drawing energy and increase energy drained per second for balance. Her 1 is in a decent spot for now aside from controlled enemies going full derp.

Because she can be modded to be really efficient, I can stay in absorb for over 5 min.

@@QseftJohn whats the point doing that tho, its like pausing the game for 5 minutes and then dealing 500 damage lmao

**Sees profile image* I wonder what made you mention Limbo in particular. 🤔

highest dmg buff ingame

Not usually useful in gameplay

@@white_cactus6258 his reason was that it didn't work well with abilities

Yeah but the content where you need banshee is basically only 10 hours into a survival. otherwise just do chroma or if dealing with armor ash

@@silverzdk not saying she's top tier but I don't think she should be bottom

Why shouldn't he, he has a good cc nice damage output he is not a glass cannon and excalibur umbra can fight on his own

Not surprised at all :v a warframe that can deal a fuck load of damage, crowd control (and obliterate that crowd in seconds) and quite tanky on his own. How can a frame like that not being in a higher tier

Excal has been and always will be one of the top 5 strongest frames in the game. When he referred to Baruuk getting outclassed by a better version of himself in S tier, it would be Umbra. Dude's OP especially when you know how to synergy self healing thru chromatic blade with gas damage and howl. You nuke whatever you want, refuse to die, gain energy from taking minimalistic damage, and generally give no shits, on a max 2 forma build if that (3 for the blade but thats to be sweaty)

You should give Volt a Try. He was my starter and a lot of fun to use.

Valkyr's just great in general, even post nerf she is actually still essentially immortal, you just need to work a liiiiiittle bit harder. Also Eternal War is a thing. Nezha is best boi though, I do agree with you there. Too bad the halo augment doesn't fit into my main build. Mirage with Penta and both of its augments though.

@Kathy Kat At this point they need to refine Maim, too. Equinox has 8 powers and I've never seen one run something other than Maim. Ember DID need a change, I just think she needed more refinements in addition to the nerf.

@@Zevox144 I see we share similar, eccentric tastes in high explosives. I'm not sure I like tether grenades, but I usually use the adhesive mod for sticky grenades instead. Looking forward to the new augment!

@@TheAbyssoftheMind Tether mod purely because I can completely avoid self damage and go as explosive happy as I want with no repercussions.

Nekros only good for farming. The shield of shadows is mandatory for him if you want a """"Tank"""". And so no space for the desacrate augment. No damage output, some cc (Vauban is better) , a little tankiness. And he is mainly used for his 3, yeah we know, it can replave healt, but he is almost useless outside of farming

@@therekter7871 you know despoil + health conversion combo exists, right?

Nekros' loot potential doesn't really align much with our ranking critera here, though ofc his energy and health orb side of the ability was taken into consideration. The focus of this is just how well they can play the game. I took his loot potential into account for sure, but even without it he'd still be in mid. Nezha is in mid simply because other frames out-class him, not that his kit is bad or anything. Nezha's mission coverage isn't as good because he has to keep resetting his 4, he can't just do a normal re-cast like some of the other frames I'll mention later. He has good damage, but if you're a client, lag causes it to break very easily and cause the hoop to not connect with many targets at all. Nezha needs an augment to give his team defenses, but other frames can give them defensive shields without the need of an augment, and a certain frame can give their 90% dr to even *more* things than Nezha can. Health and Energy orbs are nice, but there's frames that can give those values to team mates way more effectively than either Nezha or Nekros. The definition of mid-tier is that the frames within it can be over-shadowed, but can still do their jobs. With other frame choices available to me, I can pick frames better than Nezha or Nekros.

Shut up nerd

I've been running umbral mind pointing me to a build?

Also aviator got fixed so that it works with razorwing, so that definitely will help a bit.

yeet

I think it would be more of a surprise if he wasnt in high tier. Like come on his only weakness is nullifiers

!!!PRAISE THE DIO FRAME!!!

he should be in a tier of his own like wukong, only on the top of the list

@@zaryojida32 im not sure hes worthy for that because limbo really doesnt like his own teammates. But i can definitely see limbo in s tier

Most rev builds go for the efficiency and strength, and i mean being low tier doesnt mean he is neccesarily shit. His abilities arent just as good as other's. He would probably reach a higher tier if his enthrall was immune to friendly dmg like with nekros

@@CG-yj7kx kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y62Pi8KkqMenhnk.html Watch that, you'll see a bit about what makes Revenant so strong. In reference to his thralls, in most cases, you WANT them to die, it creates a damaging turret spire and spreads to other enemies. Also, its, mentioned in that video, but to expand on what the poster of the original comment is saying, Revenant has the strongest armor in the game, as a charge completely ignores an instance of damage. Even rhinos iron skin, as ridiculous as it can be at low levels, has a limit.

@Selem Bradly defy. Nuf said

@@albertschoise8091 dedy only works on wu kong not his allies

Nezha is where he is because his CC is only better than rhino in the duration but worse in damage his tankiness is outclassed by rhinos his damage ability becomes good once he uses the augment but is limited for the same reason as limbo where it only becomes good when there are multiple enemies which the mesa kills rhino's damage buff doesnt have this problem as the damage is outright and because of how it works it can also be used in plains. Vauban makes his spot because he can do his job with little effort multiple times over which gives him use in the certain modes and when at a high enough lvl he can still cc even if enemies are so very strong that the dps frame falls off and above all he has an easier time with nullies

@@toiam8350 i don't think you've played Nezha if you think that his damage is inferior to Rhino's. I'll give you that Rhino is tankier than Nezha, not that Nezha has any chance of dying if you're paying attention. I'd say that their CC is about equal, except Nezha can chain more damage using his CC while Rhino's damage ability is completely separate and can't be chained.

@@Nedlius I don't think his damage is weaker when I play him I see his damage as limbos 3rd where is gets better as more enemies are affected he has higher damage potential than rhino but it is held back because it need AI tracking which can break from time to time and the fact that it needs high enemy numbers be get extremely high the reason and on top of that he is outranked by rhino's is because rhino has consistent damage that will always be there, it is more versitle as it can be used in plains and it has utility because of team buff nezha has great team utility for the energy and health orbs but that is still works off of enemy numbers. So basically nezha damage, utility and CC is godly in the face of rhino when the dps isnt doing there job

@@toiam8350 fair enough

@@toiam8350 but saying "rhino is a better nezha" cant also mean nezha is better than 80% of the other warframes. comparing warframes to rank them is great, but you cant just compare them to 1 other frame, you need to compare them to all other frames, and compared to ALL of them theres no way nezha is mid-tier

This is a must. Most of the best survival frames are in low category which doesn't match up with all late content, makes sense for sedna but not for sortee 3 30 min excavation survival anywhere past Pluto, or eso(metta or non metta runs)

Ya I main revenant and I run a 250 power strength build so I can one shot any enthralled enemy. It's so satisfying

Agreed. If you know how to build him right and use his abilities right he's pretty strong.

how do I make my revenant good? I still can't seem to easily kill enemies over level 60 with his 4 :(

@@notgray88 You don't mod him for 4. His murder tools are Enthrall plus Reave. In that order. His only downsides are his energy consumption and that he's just not a team player. For murdering Lv. 100s like Lv. 3s on a solo mission, Revenant is god tier strong. Just make sure your ability strength is high enough to have Reave deal 100+% damage on thralls.

Valk chokes on infested content above 80. She also chokes on heavy nuli runs. Shes great vs Grin. Shes firmly in mid tier.

Using a 250 strength I farmed equinox from regor in 2 hours. (5 min runs)

Yeah, but Volt just annoys everybody else. Constantly rolling backwards is extremely annoying.

@@jonathandubinsky9390 You gotta pump those numbers up. Mine runs with 400% strength.

@@Papierflugzeug95 I think that's because you're not used to the speed. get a volt and practice. The sooner you get used to it the sooner you'll see how convenient it is.

@@arcanethink Oh no, I am used to the speed. I play Volt myself from time to time. But if I'm not playing Volt, I don't want the speedbuff. Especially when I'm playing Nezha, because that combination is absolutely fucked.

Soz, Valkyr has to get inside each and every enemy's shirts in order to kill them with 4. She's vastly out-classed, especially by Excalibur. Chromatic Blade Exalted Blade is an extremely strong tool with far better range, and he can even boost his melee damage because his CC is a blind. He can also get finishers just like Valkyr can with Paralysis, but he can also even increase finisher damage with an augment if he wants. She's really not in a good place. Vauban atleast can render an entire tileset harmless and unable to oppose your team in things like Interception, Mobile Defense, Excavation and the like.

(of course it's just my opinion) but I still think valkyr is still mid tier because of two things: The Slide attack of the 4 And literal invincibility Of course is the small range bad because you can't kill as many enemies at once but If you don't intend to speedrun everything and you play something like exterminate she is pretty good (and her 3 is really good) I think in this case we have just different opinions (and that is absolutely ok)

I run her as a cc machine with her pull mod on her scream, I can just pull a room on me and with the huge finnisher % on it just pop enemies, downside is the ear rape from screaming XD

Triburos but in mobile defence and defences and well anything with a health bar, she can use her warcry to buff armour and make them practically invincible, she can use her Warcry augment to make it last forever if she can get a kill, and you always go on about how range is king so having a whip or pole arm on standby will be no problem for the typical valkyr user. Valkyr yes doesn’t have much range for her 1-3 and 4 but does have the added bonus of being invincible, making her a clutch Warframe in case a player goes down, and the range issue can be negated when going against enemy’s like infested but those sort of missions are uncommon to come across so I do agree her 4 is a little downgraded by that, but overall, why yes valkyr does deserve to be in that tier she at least needs to be higher than vauban

Yeah! I main her for so many missions, plus you can get her to be a vampire like health steal with her 4

Eternal war u mbral mods and adaptation make her ridiculous

Zephyr is a mid tier in my book. For anyone who never bothered to read the wiki, Zephyr's 4 DOUBLES crit damage to all the enemies caught in it. I have max efficiency and use her 4 like mag's 2. Her 3 is pretty nice, as long as you pay attention not to get melee or aoe damage, she can't die. So to me, Zephyr is a tricky damage dealer with survivability. She's mid tier in my book.

Zephyr is way underrated in the video. For being able to gain complete projectile immunity from a single ability, she really should be ranked higher. Especially good in open world environments. Air burst is also great for popping crates and even killing trash faster than Ember, since the ability has a fairly low energy cost, can be cast while other instances exist (unlike Cataclysm), decent range, goes through walls, and doesn't interrupt moment.

Yea i think people take tiers to seriously. Its kinda funny really

this is so true i mean for god sakes ive used zephyr in solos survivals going up past lvl 500 easy

Wukong has end game potential. He can't die. You can solo survival with him and just chill pretty much.

@@silverzdk true but lets be real wukong while good, could be much much better, imagine if he got better stealth or an EW with better stats, hes got potential, but he cant really shine unless that potential is harnessed, not in warframe as it is now where just surviving isnt enough

This. Volt should be S tier for how integral he is for Eidolons alone. Valkyr Hysteria may be nerfed but she doesn't need more than Eternal War to be great. Mirage may be squishy and a bit clunky but has more damage potential than even Chroma (not that you need that much damage for pretty much 99.9% of content).

@@omgitalo Mirage can blind her teamates if used correctly which purs her at S tier. Valkyr is pretty good with eternal war.

Kid SoulReaper it's unsafe to disclose any godly thing about any frame cause DE gon nerfirino xD

What mod is this?

I doubt it'll be additive, and if it is, I doubt the leave it like that.

Are you talking about Amalgam Barrel Diffusion?

@iSpy3210 I believe so

Good Ol' Memes... lol

*disarms you* Try dabbing without arms

@@Niemandzockt *dabs with legs*

*chops off your legs* Foolish fool, try dabbing now!

@@Mello. *dabs with imaginary arms*

@@thelasthunter3123 It seems we need a Nyx for you...

Limbo is better because if a enemy attacks(if high enough level) the bubble after that period it can be deleted unlike limbo's which will always get the said duration

@@toiam8350 unless your playing against a nullifier

nezha is one of the strongest tanks in the game. adaptation stacks with warding halo. you basically take 1 damage per bullet. pressing 2(augmented) on enemies impaled by 4 creates a beautiful rain of health and energy that your whole squad can pick up.

@@estelsoldaccount2338 People keep underestimating Nezha but his 2 augment can wreak hell on enemies like you guys said some of the best tanking in the game and the cc while not the best is a really good o shit button.

agreed, Nezha was way underappreciated in this video. I'd argue he's just as viable as rhino at this point, just in different playstyles.

Nezha was woefully underrated here. He stands out most strongly to me here. My other disagreements are fairly minor (Nekros and Volt probably should be a bit higher), but Nezha was the one that struck me as really warranting reevaluation. He and Rhino do similar things in somewhat different ways, but they're really similarly powerful and useful overall. In no way does he belong in a lower tier than Rhino.

Dapper Kobold *Cephalon Shy wants to know your location*

Dont worry he put her in no tier lol

Faking hate mag every mag puts ther balls in doors so u cant shoot shit behind that door....

Djm cwj you sure that’s mag there friend ? I think you confuse Frost with Mag

@@thunderhuy781 nop not at all, your Bullets get suckt in,... ffs i can one shot that shit why you Force me to focus on 1 enemy in Survival our def when i just want to lvl Stuff...

ey i needed that footage at some point i just so happened to be levelin things at the time

She is a good frame and fun to play, but there's others that can output similar damage a lot faster and energy is just not that big of a deal with some of the tools available. She is still in a good place I think mid tier fits her well

Yeah, Nezha was really underrated here.

Basically my build. Also Capacitence is a generally amazing augment.

ThePope OfAwesomeness SEER CANNOT BEAT LATO

@@minghee756 oh yes it can!

ThePope OfAwesomeness SEER CANNOT BEAT EARLY LUNCH

Maybe like how we got Wukong Tier Mag will end up in Mag tier at the tippy top.

i agree on everything you said. good arguments sir

Said God, threw a mountain on him and left him for several years.

Yeah he pissed on a God and DE took the piss out of him.