It takes a bit of extra work with a file and some sanding sticks but it is possible; I did it to some smurf assualt intercessors in the past.

I've cleaned off a bit of that kind of stuff before, it really just takes time and care.

Let's face it tho. If someone is brand new. Buys that set and paints them as blood angels. No warhammer Hobbyist is actually going to berate them for it are they lol. Its fine. Long as they enjoyed it.

​@@richarddixon1450you'd be surprised... there are sadly some gatekeepers in this hobby...

I play Salamanders, and I used the 9th edition Assault Intercessor paint kit to kitbash a new sergeant with hand flamer and thunder hammer for my Assault Intercessors. Took a bit of work but entirely doable.

Same happened to me. They’re definitely sitting around here and there

My local GW store still has 10. Thinking about it, but price in Aus is $420. Not cheap, but is still cheap compared to if you have to buy everything separately

Ehhh the file is kind of a joke tbh. The clippers are serviceable though. You'd be better off getting your files from army painter and getting some brushes from Micheals. Just get colors relevent to what your actually collecting since they'll dry out.

@@keyanklupacs6333 I assume you mean mould removal tool, it's similar to card scraper. You "shave" model with it, and from what I tried at my local GW it's serviceable (I made better tool from cheap drill handle and carbide CNC 20 degree V-shape router bit tho).

Only in death does recording end

Its literally just a powerpoint presentation

@@sleepiestagent Power point presentations still take time

I wish he would go Night mode though. I'd like to still be able to see what I paint, before I hit 40.

For future army expansion, you'll probably be able to pick up psychophages and Infernus marines really cheaply pretty soon. Add in an Ahriman for a bit more magic, and you'll be at 1500-2000pts in no time. If you don't want the Tzaangor, you could always just use them as 2x10 Blue Horrors (with individual rippers as Brimstone Horrors) for a bit of infiltration, or paint one half pink and the other half blue and the rippers orange/red, so you've got heaps of options on how to use them. Just clip off the weapons and tails and the odd arm here or there, hit them with a lighter for a few seconds, and you're done. You could turn the Leapers into 3x Tzeentch Flamers pretty easily as well, if you don't want the spawn. You do have all those termagant weapons you just clipped off for the horrors, just waiting to be all flamer-like. Or make them as 3x Exalted Flamers, if you're trying to boost points on the way to 2000 (adds a smidgen more reasonable firepower too). Sure, you'll need some new bases, but you did just buy a cardboard box and a play-mat you'll probably never use for anything other than terrain making.... Soulreaper cannons are surprisingly easy to make from a bunch of toothpicks glued together, so chuck one in the rubric squad, and add one to your slightly overcosted Daemon Prince while you're at it as well, just so it looks nice and 1kSons'y. Gold weapons works wonders for that 🙂

Still, with the Pink/ Blue Horrors and Flamers/ Exalteds option, you've got multiple ways of playing this army and heaps of deployment options with maybe/deepstrike, all from that one £65 box. Change the character enhancements to taste (you can just barely Doombolt something if you want, but it'll take a few more points than 1000 if you want to turn off armour saves for a moment. Unless you grab Ahriman. So it's still justified on the addiction of wh40k).

Yeah, I think having a box that gives you some models, Paints and basic tools makes a ton of sense.

Why is paints a really good upgrade? What if you're new to the hobby but don't specifically want to paint UM or Leviathan?

@@brandonransley7091 that is a fair point but painting is a big part of warhammer you cant deny that and maybe they want more people to paint (so more people can buy their overpriced paints etc lol) so its not a bad thing itself but the recruit edition 10th have less cool figures and is even more expensive wich is stupid in my opinion

Already has, at least on GW website. Whether or not you can find them in the wild is a different story.

Not at the moment. Maybe next year when stormbringer finishes?

I started back again earlier this year. Has been a learning curve and getting stuff to ,9th then tenth in a short period of time

@@hammertimegunzablaze2952 I hope you're having a good time getting your collection going. There is a retailer in the UK called The Troll Trader with some reasonable prices and shipping rates. If you're buying several units and paints,, you can save a good bit of money. I wish I'd known it early on. Good luck!

I kind of disagree with your take: The starter set is a trap imho. Why? They aren't combat patrol sized, which is the get-into-warhammer game size. If you want want to add the librarian (24 pound) and the barbgaunts (27.50 pound) you are paying 116,5 which is AWFULLY close to the 125 pound the Ultimate starter set will cost you. Keep in mind the rules aren't the core rules but starter rules, there is 0 actual terrain in it AND the gaming mat is a paper sheet instead of cardboard. I do know you said 'if you don't care about terrain and rules' but most new players, which the *starter* set, targets will care. So yes, technically you are right but from a starter point of view you are almost paying the same amount of money (6.8% difference) to get a lot less value. Even as a non new player who just happens to like these armies: 8,5 pound for terrain is a steal (even if it IS boring and lackluster terrain) Anyway just my point of view!

@@Morrodin182 Uh? I mean, $20 lower is still cheaper. Otherwise, the core rules are negligible considering they're free online and nothing's stopping you from printing them out. And the terrain, if you're really cash-strapped, you could just make use of whatever's in your house. And that's without getting into third party sites. From the people breaking apart their Leviathan boxes, Barbgaunts I'm seeing go from $30-$35 and the Termie Librarian go from $28-$30 if you wanted to save even more.

@@tastiGMmaster2099 As I said, you are technically right it is cheaper but: - it is not 20 dollar cheaper when you use GW prices but more in the range of 10 to 12 bucks. - The core rules book can have value as you don't need to print them out yourself. Ink isn't for free and some people (like me) prefer physical rules over digital. - Terrain: yes you can make free terrain. I actually enjoy creating my own terrain. On the other hand GW terrain comes at a certain cost. - You could even argue that if you buy the ultimate box and sell the terrain + terrainboards + rules you could save money AND still have two full combat patrols. - Yes you can buy from third party stores but from those same third parties stores the ultimate box will also come with a reduced price. Just do the math: 125 pound for the ultimate starter - 35 pound for the terrain (bunker + walls retails from GW for 52,5 pound) - 20 pound of the boards (GW asks 35 pound for terrain boards) - 10 pound for the rules (GW asks 15 pounds for the only-rules book) equals paying 60 pound, which is a lower price than the normal starter and you still have the extra troops to round out the combat patrol. So, once again when I look at these different boxes and do the breakdown, I have to disagree with your take.

@@Morrodin182 “it is not $20 cheaper when you use GW prices” What? Yes it is. $110 (Starter set) + $38 (Termie Librarian) + $45 (Barbgaunts) = $193 are the GW prices.

@@tastiGMmaster2099 Yeah if you use dollars directly i guess you are 'right'. Well kind of, as it is $17 ;). I used pounds and then converted the difference to dollar, which is why I end up on a difference of about 10 to 12 dollar (depending on conversion rate). Anyway that doesn't invalidate all the rest that I wrote. It is a bit sad really that you choose to focus on what essentially is just a detail and ignore the plain fact that the starter is a much worse deal than the ultimate starter. Just to point it out once more, 210 dollar for ultimate starter gives you: - warhammer rules worth $25 - Battlezone fronteris STC-Hab bunker and stockades worth $85 - 2x cardboard battleground worth $60 - Librarian in terminator armor worth $38 - Barbgaunts worth $45 - Everything else the regular starter gives. In total you pay 100 dollar more but you receive 253 dollar more worth of product. If you sell the rulebook, the bunker + stockades and the battleground (170 dollar GW retail price) you can easily recuperate the 100 dollar price difference.

Thankfully it does seem like if you get Starter Set and buy the Barbgaunts and Termie Librarian separately, it’s still cheaper than buying the Ultimate Set if you don’t care about the terrain or the rule book, so should be all good.

The Starter set in my currency is $150, you miss one space marine and five nids but the price of both Combat patrols together is $530. So it's an amazing deal no matter how you look at it.

I am hoping that they maybe do it like the 9th edition ones where you still have the options for those included.

@@dracothedragonyoutube4376 They wont. We literally already have the sprues, we have leviathan and the starters will use the same, it will be the same sprues.

Leviathan overall I think is still better value, it's not even close. GW terrains are overpriced as hell, there are tons of tutorials on how to make your own terrain with basically garbage lying around the house, and a board costs next to nothing to make too; The code rule book can be downloaded and printed out for free, if you don't want to drag the big book around, and there is even a youtuber who turned the core rules and stat cards into pdf for people to download as they please; dice and ruler costs almost nothing to get; With the ulti set you're missing the neurogaunts, the screamer killer, neurotyrant, apothecary biologis, sternguard veterans, the lieutenant, and a giant ass dreadnaught, all while saving only $40.

@@Markynaz Of course it’s better value as you go up, in general. But not for what I want. ultimate starter cost me €144. Terrain and a physical rule book is practically free lol

Kind of the opposite. A whole unit of special weapon gants is a waste, but you would get great mileage from 1 box of special-gants and 3 very cheap sprues of fleshborer gants and mixing them up. Anyone that had the foresight to pick up cheap Leviathan termagants the last couple of weeks from ebay is ecstatic (they were like £6-7 for a while).

well i would agree to that ( but more like 40-50% percent for what it is in the end but still) but they made their products even more expensive now lol i mean look at the recruit box you could have bought the 9th edition box for 40 euros wich was fine but now the 10th edition is 15 euros more expensive even when it offers less minis (and less cooler minis...)

Wish granted! Just don't buy directly from GW!

@@godot1785 I still remember when they spat into Orc and Goblins players when 8th ed Army Book came out. Month before it a box of 19 Orc Boys was for 20 pounds or sth and after the release it was cut to 10 models in a box... for the same price. Then they did it the same with Dire Avengers. And don't get me started on the Failcast price hike. 40-50% would be even more fair but it's GW so we won't see it.

@@PeteOfDarkness I never do ❤

Combat patrols are $160 US each, and you get two full ones for $210 along with the rules and some basic terrain. As far as GW stuff goes, this is pretty good actually.