Warhammer+ | the good, the bad, and the... meh
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Күн бұрынHere's my honest review of Warhammer+, Games Workshop's new subscription service.
All visual and audio assets of Warhammer+ content are obviously copyright of Games Workshop PLC, they have been reproduced here at a far lower resolution than the originals, and in small snippets. This sort of contextual use is protected by education, review, and fair use exemptions in existing copyright law.
Special thanks to Penny's little sister Ava for doing my black metal corpse paint!
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00:00 What is Warhammer+?
00:54 The good points
01:24 Come to the dark side, Louise
03:01 The bad points
05:21 I said the ORIGINAL Space Hulk intro
06:28 The neutral stuff
07:42 Did the use MY music?!
08:40 The coolest people in the world
@MidwinterMinis 2 жыл бұрын
UPDATE (good news): this video is no longer copyright claimed by Games Workshop. This was cleared up in emails with the GW legal team; apparently it was flagged in error. Thanks for all your support everyone, you've all shown me a lot of kindness, and I really appreciate it.
@TheBatNaz 2 жыл бұрын
very typical corporate abuse of the abysmal copyright laws
@larrychicco1062 2 жыл бұрын
Funny, cos you made a very fair and unbiased review. I was warming to the platform...but then their action immediately reaffirms the negative stereotype about GWs behaviour.
@DarthLynx 2 жыл бұрын
That sucks :(
@ReubenAotearoa_ 2 жыл бұрын
Push back on it. For my sins, I have stumbled into the music reaction/deconstruction KZfaq rabbit hole (Rick Beato, The Charismatic Voice, Geebz etc) and takedowns and strikes are rife there and it’s all basically fair use. From their videos on the subject it seems that if you put the effort in then this can normally be reversed, if only because companies automate this sorta thing and don’t have the time to argue about it: they just throw them out knowing most of them will stick. That people are too scared to fight. Also I wonder what the story would be here for people who do have arrangements with James like you used too: are they getting these things?
@benbrown5834 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can hit them back with a copyright strike for using almost identical music without crediting you
@shadowofhawk55 2 жыл бұрын
The bit about no credits for animations makes me livid. The people who put time and effort into these projects deserve some recognition for it, and GW is apparently to selfish even for that. I knew I wasn’t going to subscribe for other reasons, but that just super reinforces my choice.
@alexstratford278 2 жыл бұрын
GW doesn't credit because "fans" harass the people if they don't like something in it. It originated from when Matt Ward got death threats over the SM codex ( That was originally going to be a pure UM codex)
@little_hunt3r 2 жыл бұрын
Not even crediting artist is peak selfish pettiness. Fuck them for that. I’m not going to fault the artists. But they were fools.
@seanocd 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexstratford278 I used to know who wrote each codex and story, who sculpted each mini and who painted or drew each artwork. I miss those days deeply.
@SubversionArts 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexstratford278 Do you have any examples? I'm not sure how to track them down specifically.
@seanmontgomery4327 2 жыл бұрын
It really shows the true colors of GW. It's pathetic, honestly.
@dagoblin994 2 жыл бұрын
I can tell that you washed off the cultist makeup right before filming the rest lol. Its a nice effect.
@edpistemic 2 жыл бұрын
Of course that's what it is!! Ha ha - I didn't make the connection and just thought Guy was either getting into mascara or the twins had been sleeping badly! xD
@nbell63 2 жыл бұрын
I've been an actor and I've worked in animation, so hearing that there's no creator credits is both astounding and troubling. I can't help but feel that the management psychology currently manifest at Games Workshop is laying down filaments now for the gordian knot(s) of the future - all entirely self-inflicted.
@alexstratford278 2 жыл бұрын
GW doesn't credit because "fans" harass the people if they don't like something in it. It originated from when Matt Ward got death threats over the SM codex ( That was originally going to be a pure UM codex)
@nbell63 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexstratford278 that may well be the rationalisation for not giving due credit, but as a blanket excuse - when everything prior was credited - it's truly infantile.
@alexstratford278 2 жыл бұрын
@@nbell63 That codex was released in 2008, to my understanding they stopped putting it in books that weren't already printing. Its not an excuse, its a more than a decade old policy that still has use today, just look at the abuse SODAZ suffered from the community on the rumour he was in talks with GW
@DeadWayfes 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexstratford278 you dont see Disney or Netflix not putting credits to their shows. People hate on many of them and they STILL put credits in. Also I am sure the ones who re did He-man were more hated than any animator might be and they still were named. No excuses
@alexstratford278 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeadWayfes Eh, it's a policy that to my knowledge has been in place for over a decade. And in that time it's to my knowledge prevented another Matt Ward like issue. Is it something I'm conflicted on? Yes, I'd like to see the creators get credit but also don't want them being harassed. As GW have taken this avenue as a general policy and it seems to work I guess they've gone with it. And honestly the recent issue with SODAZ has kind of confirmed that its still an issue in the community.
@trovarion 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding being announced "ages ago": Noticed how Darren Lathams channel went down when WH+ went live? And how he announced that his channel would have to go down (i don't remember exactly) at the beginning of 2020? I assume that's when they planned to release it and then COVID and stuff happened. Just a thought that crossed my mind.
@MidwinterMinis 2 жыл бұрын
Veeeery astute!
@nevinbeaver1111 2 жыл бұрын
Same thing with the guy who did Astartes. GW must've bought their previous content as well as the job. Hope they got paid well.
@Gorbachoph 2 жыл бұрын
I was on part 3 of painting my Lord of Blights using his Masterclass. I even bought ever single paint he uses during the class. What a let down.
@DeadWayfes 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gorbachoph there is a channel with all his videos. Search theRealDarrenLatham on youtube. All the videos are there
@soberirish83 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gorbachoph I did the same thing. I think I bought more paint for that model than I have for my entire army.
@undeadch1cken523 2 жыл бұрын
Is Guy wearing eyeliner this entire video or is it just me?
@elcapytan259 2 жыл бұрын
Guyliner
@MidwinterMinis 2 жыл бұрын
Not intentionally. I recorded the bit with black metal facepaint first, and as it turns out, I'm not very good at taking off makeup.
@micharybowski4911 2 жыл бұрын
Those are eyebags from all the sleepless nights with the twins
@apeofjustice7109 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed this. I think it looks good to be honest
@lenoks_de 2 жыл бұрын
Wow wow wow... stop right there. If Louise Sugden can wear eyeliner, so can Guy!
@EricsHobbyWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Its not just grey plastic! I have plenty of unpainted white metal and resin too thank you very much
@Ruinstad694 2 жыл бұрын
The credits is a real breaking point for me. The artists' and writers of this stuff should be able too point at these credits and have the acknowledgment they deserve.
@whyarenamessohardtocomeupw2916 2 жыл бұрын
But seriously: why, in the Emperor's name, aren't all codexes freely available digitally for a single purchase? Codexes and all the rule books are so prohibitively expensive, it's extremely daunting for people just getting into 40k
@Ben-fk9ey 2 жыл бұрын
££££££££££££££££££
@stonehorsegaming 2 жыл бұрын
'Codexes and all the rule books are so prohibitively expensive', this answers your question. GW know that there is a very loyal fanbase who will always buy the books come the next edition.
@alid5383 2 жыл бұрын
Is this your first time with GW?
@whyarenamessohardtocomeupw2916 2 жыл бұрын
@@alid5383 I wish
@KyrieFortune 2 жыл бұрын
Same reason Wizards of the Coast does this with Dungeons and Dragons' manual: LOADSAMONEY
@thatsbuzzin 2 жыл бұрын
Hilariously, in the most recent battle report they forgot the Blood Angels entire chapter tactic of +1 to wound in melee. They also forgot inferno pistols are d6+2 with it half range and that sanguinary guard are -1 to hit in combat.
@ands1983 2 жыл бұрын
Not even GW can get all their rules right. Only goes to prove that the paper-rules-bloat is not the way to go. Back to datasheets and warscrolls, please.
@jeancouscous 2 жыл бұрын
They have been known to notoriously suck at playing their own game with lots mistakes. They are casual players on their reports, not rules masters/competitive players.
@landonpaints 2 жыл бұрын
I can't help but feel discouraged by this. I mean, what hope do WE have if even GW workers can't keep the rules straight??
@Cynder44 2 жыл бұрын
HOW
@RedBairnMedia 2 жыл бұрын
Bringing a new version into the mix of "Rules as Written" vs "Rules as Intended" with "Rules as Remembered"
@nrgspike 2 жыл бұрын
Wholeheartedly agree, if Louise ever did pull a Duncan, I think she'd do really well for herself.
@dyansis 2 жыл бұрын
And Duncan is doing really well. His website is super friendly and supportive, great content and he's launching his own paints.
@Law030811 2 жыл бұрын
@@dyansis I'm very pleasantly surprised at the large amount of success Duncan appears to be having after going solo.
@radred609 2 жыл бұрын
something tells me there's a pretty hefty non-compete clause in her contract after what happened to duncan
@patrickdillon500 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the verdict on Warhammer + Guy. I’m in the “meh, nah” camp, myself. It just doesn’t have anything i see of value, plus the bad feels GW has cultivated has made me at the very best have a wait and see attitude. Thanks for checking it out for us, though!
@jinenjuce 2 жыл бұрын
"It's similar but not the same" In the same way the bassline for Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby is similar to Queen's Under Pressure but not the same
@patjacksonpodium 2 жыл бұрын
"Look at all that grey plastic. For shame." I'M TRYING, OK?!?!? 😭
@stanash3515 2 жыл бұрын
Doing my best, but there's so much.....
@BeforetheStorm. 2 жыл бұрын
@@lpurches One step down , only a few more to go.
@bippins 2 жыл бұрын
I feel personally attacked...
@annasstorybox7906 2 жыл бұрын
That would be an Uno reverse card if GW got caught using peoples music without proper copyright legislation or without proper marking and they had to pay up... At that point they probably couldn't do anything but letting people do their fanart or animations off the hook and release the Astartes guy back onto KZfaq as an independent artist xD
@writtenwisely 2 жыл бұрын
They'll pull a pickup 2 card by saying, "but it wasn't 3d printed by a third-party".
@ka1juhunt3r 2 жыл бұрын
They are lucky the herbert estate never came after them, besides games workshop was only borrowing “the god emperor of mankind, the imperium, lasgun, psychic navigator’s total banning of artificial intelligence in a far distant future setting fanatical super soldier’s and the god emperor going on a jihad across the stars oh and a fanatically devoted all female army... honestly games workshop are complete hypocrite’s for destroying smaller projects of love when they copied just about everything from other franchises.
@emdeo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ka1juhunt3r you think any of those are copyrightable?
@ka1juhunt3r 2 жыл бұрын
@@emdeo pretty close to sue for plagiarism.
@cryamistellimek9184 2 жыл бұрын
@@emdeo GW stole far more than that just that and changes it just enough to claim legal safety. If you took all of the stuff you can tell is clearly copied because of their lack of creativity warhammer 40k ceases to exist.
@visualartsbyjr2464 2 жыл бұрын
With the other subscriptions that I have, I’m just not interested in adding to yet another fee for Warhammer+ I hope that those that do get it enjoy it at least. Sucks that the animation creators are not getting credit 😕 Thank you for the video as it helped me solidify my choice.
@gustavotriqui 2 жыл бұрын
GW stopped to credit authors time ago to avoid these authors being harrased in real life by "fans" that disagreed with their takes on lore or rules published in Codices
@yagsipcc287 2 жыл бұрын
@@gustavotriqui BS it's so GW can claim it's all them... They don't want some creators to get too big. Look at novels this is not an issue with novels and they have far bigger impact on the direction of WH as a whole.
@gustavotriqui 2 жыл бұрын
@@yagsipcc287 they aren't claiming it now. It is something they have been doing for years, before this controversy, because the authors of some codices were being harrased IRL if that Codices weren't seen as "good" by the rabid fans. Sodaz was already harrased to not join them. I'm pretty sure that the toxic cess pool of rabid nerds that this community is, would have done similar to any author joining "the enemy".
@alexstratford278 2 жыл бұрын
@@noblegalifreyan4551 it's never ok to harass someone like that. I really hope that was just poor phrasing on your part.
@SubversionArts 2 жыл бұрын
@@gustavotriqui Honestly, we can only guess why they don't credit their creators. Matt Ward hasn't been with GW for years, and the leadership that was around when he was are gone. GW is a pretty opaque company in a lot of ways, and they frequently don't explain why they do things. Without disagreeing with the possibility of your explanation, my guess was because they are considered "work for hire" so that they aren't eligible for any royalties. The novel authors, on the other hand, probably have credit (and royalties) written into their contracts.
@mattbell5602 2 жыл бұрын
If they release something worth watching, I’ll head over to pirate bay.
@claytonkickflip7595 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a thief
@mattbell5602 2 жыл бұрын
@@claytonkickflip7595 You mean like ripping off elder, the emperor of man, lascannons, space marines, ornithopters, and probably more, then suing people for using those same labels...yeah, thievery...imagine.
@claytonkickflip7595 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattbell5602 Imagine trying to justify your thievery by blaming other’s thievery
@mattbell5602 2 жыл бұрын
@@claytonkickflip7595 I don’t have to imagine it, I live in the US
@landotucker 2 жыл бұрын
I think this whole "no credits for anyone" is just a symptom of GW becoming more corporate. There must be some legal thing to it aswell with putting someone's name to something.
@CloudianMH 2 жыл бұрын
No corporation does this. Its far from industry standard. This is just GW being GW. "Fuck you pay me". Absolute cunts and they will never see a penny from me. Pirate and 3d printer city. If i can even muster the interest to play their game anymore. I could make more coherent rules for 2 armys in 1 day.
@mellowcorpsep6665 2 жыл бұрын
@@CloudianMH konami does this with yugioh
@benrafferty3084 2 жыл бұрын
“I prefer my version, but… I would say that” Instant flashbacks to the DIY dipwash video
@Matt-tb5un 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing I noticed on the free view of the ork show was no credits to the people behind it. I'm big on giving people credit they're due. That took me off the fence with subscribing and confirmed to me it wasn't worth shilling out for.
@Arkhavist_S 2 жыл бұрын
In a vacuum, I definitely would've been interested for only $5. I'm afraid I'm in the 'nah' crowd, though. I can't see past the negative context and missed potential WH+ represents. My decision was made quite awhile ago, but I appreciate the review nonetheless. Had I been on the fence about it, the credits thing would've been the deal breaker for me - that's abhorrent.
@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Lack of proper credits is dodgy as hell!
@Scrombo2 2 жыл бұрын
@@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen it's a thing they stopped doing after Matt Ward started getting all the hate, iirc, so on codecies, I kind of get it, but these are big (supposedly) well funded projects, that just isn't acceptable
@alexstratford278 2 жыл бұрын
@@Scrombo2 I think its just a general policy now. And TBH considering what happened with SODAZ and the rumor of him being hired getting him massively harassed? I don't blame them for this
@notalpharius4553 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexstratford278 Games workshop were the ones who were shitty to SODAZ.
@alexstratford278 2 жыл бұрын
@@notalpharius4553 I don't remember GW harassing him until he quit 40k animations all together. GW was slow sure. But it wasn't GW who harassed him. It was the community. Same as the people who harassed Matt Ward for writing a bad codex and sent death threats. The community was the shittiest ones in both instances. Ergo the policy they instituted after the Matt Ward stuff to avoid it happening again
@chaosmike89th 2 жыл бұрын
How about paying $9 once for all the rules for your army, including any rules updates or new models, for the duration of the current game edition? And maybe we could include a full rulebook in the app as well. You know, like Privateer Press already does.
@WozWozEre 2 жыл бұрын
You lost GW at the word 'once'. That is not a profit driven business model.
@DiscourseMinis 2 жыл бұрын
They would only do this on a subscription based model, if at all.
@edwarddeguzman3258 2 жыл бұрын
Naahhh I’m good with not having to pay for rules/profiles/easy to use wiki/army builder on all platforms
@lyell63 2 жыл бұрын
How about rules are free and digital, since minis are already ridiculously expensive
@cameronbirch1290 2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see them use baldermort as the narrator for the loremaster stuff. That guy is like the Attenborough of Warhammer 😂
@Tylendel_ 2 жыл бұрын
the no credits is a deal-breaker for me. SUPPORT YOUR ARTISTS !!
@kgapaneseschoolgirlb 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Copy Right Laws, there are actual political parties based solely (well they now started to broaden their political beliefs) on reforming copyright laws, known as “Pirate Parties” and one of them is doing quite well in Czechia.
@damnright1968 2 жыл бұрын
Czechia? If it is the country I think it is, it wont matter as long as youre in the EU because those laws will always overwrite domestic laws in terms of copyright.
@kgapaneseschoolgirlb 2 жыл бұрын
@@damnright1968 Lots of EU countries don’t follow every rule the EU makes. Plus if they win in Czechia, they may win in more EU countries (as there’s lots of them in different countries) and then vote for it at an EU level
@CoolHatTom 2 жыл бұрын
From the first scene of this video and I can already tell that fatherhood is hitting our boy hard. Wishing you and Penny all the best and I hope the twins aren't wearing on you too much!
@gabbycross 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos man. Always positive, open and honest. I only play Blood Bowl these days and rarely paint as much as I would like. But I started on 40k back in '93 and collected Blood Angels (and fondly remember that early White Dwarf Battle report Blood Angels vs Orcs).
@daili4275 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the live stream the other night was a bit like a behind the scenes for this episode, now the black metal makeup makes sense! Thanks for the commentry Guy, if your opinion changes please let us know.
@jodeson06 2 жыл бұрын
I saw on Reddit that this video got demonetized. I liked it though and subscribed to your channel, so hopefully theres enough of us to make up for it a little bit.
@phloog 2 жыл бұрын
All issues (and there are many) with current copyright law aside, if people are able to make a claim based on two or three notes/chords we're going to need more lawyers.
@nucphyschem1 2 жыл бұрын
ask marvin gayes estate about that. They did exactly that and won against robin thick.
@vinee.mp4 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really enjoyed it. Honestly might try out plus just to see what its all about. I didn't know about that archive section. Looks rad!
@FowaDeLuz 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, we need more segments of you playing a sith lord. You nailed it!
@KrisPaintsMinis 2 жыл бұрын
A good thing add to Warhammer+ would be the build manuals for their miniatures in the archiving.
@stevewolfhard6089 2 жыл бұрын
I work in TV animation and the idea of not crediting the people who made a show is unthinkable, it's a completely shocking choice.
@jonny_leach 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and got to love a shout out at the end. Thanks!
@forsteri 2 жыл бұрын
That extra cake cultist footage at the end of the video alone was worth my monthly Patreon sub! Good video!
@AndreLuis-gw5ox 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they dont put credits to their animated productions, something basic regarding this kind of creative works, is a good indicator of the kind of ethics promoted by this company
@GuthanSlayer 2 жыл бұрын
I think its prob company policy, i remember hearing about mattward and how the community basically harrased him and since then no auhtor names on the codexs and rules anymore
@DaThingOnTheDoorstep 2 жыл бұрын
So, as far as reading back issues of WD and list building, the "non-commercial" versions are still better? I'm absolutely shocked. Also, the best 40k animation is still Dawn of War opening cinematics.
@pagancrew 2 жыл бұрын
Very fine linework on that corpsepaint. Good to see you backing up those Black Metal claims.
@beerenmusli8220 2 жыл бұрын
The "Original Space Hulk Intro" made me almost fall of my chair and catch my breath. Perfection. I dont know if your eyes look like that because of the dark side clip or because of the Midwinter Twinnies, but it made the snippet so much better!!!!!!!!
@Sandmann1193 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly even if I would support gw after their recent bad news, I don't have the time for all of that. Iam happy I can paint and watch you or another creator while also working full time :D
@techoape 2 жыл бұрын
What is with GW's allergy to letting people get credit for their work?
@GuyWithAEpicHat 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Midwinter! Exactly the same thoughts I had on after my experience with Warhammer+
@cavemanbum 2 жыл бұрын
5:48 - AWESOME! That scene danced through my head over and over while I dreamed of purchasing a PC and sound card capable of playing the game way back in 1994.
@blindserpent8414 2 жыл бұрын
This explains the face paint
@omnom117 2 жыл бұрын
Eyeliner is on point this episode
@chuck-n-debtaylor7553 2 жыл бұрын
The Cake scene, especially at the end…brilliant! 🤣
@Zumfirefly 2 жыл бұрын
Im dooing it! Im painting! Do not rush me! Love the content as always!
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 2 жыл бұрын
Honest opinion,the original Space Hulk game, IMO, made the best use of the shift in media.
@jamesbradley5908 2 жыл бұрын
Very classy take on the music. I'm sure others will have their opinion on what you should do or not do. But I for one respect your nonchalant attitude to something the corporate giant would have any full legal about.
@Gamma5232 2 жыл бұрын
Missed this when it first went up, and couldn't find it in my subs list. Glad I was able to find it.
@brettburns9321 2 жыл бұрын
guy love the channel buddy. i dont paint gw models any more. i started building gundam models and cant get enough. But i did paint an airfix kit over Christmas an it looks not bad. i used acrylic paint and some tips i got on here. Next is to tackle a gundam.
@eastwindtabletop7883 2 жыл бұрын
I am, too, commenting to appease the mighty algorithm. Also, a great objective review without biases, well done!
@ka5141 2 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't provide credits? That is so odd.
@carlstanford7607 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Hope you’re enjoying the new additions to the family. The baby stage flys by fast so enjoy every moment
@ernieme101 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the info . i was highly unlikely to subscribe anyway , but finding out how little content there is that i'd be interested in makes the decision super easy .
@brianbassett3896 2 жыл бұрын
reading the desc. (as usual, you can't *not* read the desc.) and thought "Midwinter Minis and the KZfaq Audio Library" sounded like a kid punk band that was popular while you just on your way out of junior high.
@Schinak 2 жыл бұрын
There is nothing GOOD about it when you consider none of these projects are CORPORATION quality
@biganimetiddies1287 2 жыл бұрын
That's honestly my biggest takeaway here. I'd be okay if, in charging Disney+ prices, they provided Disney+ type original content. They don't need to release "Avengers" level stuff, but at least charge for something more than a fan animation.
@dambrooks7578 2 жыл бұрын
I was so impressed when I saw Louise being interviewed by GW where she discussed both her art in various game rule books, then she showed off her Snakebite army, it looks incredible, truly 💜
@Nicolas-yd2mw 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for talking about Louise , what an amazing painter ! Cheers
@ands1983 2 жыл бұрын
The issue with thinking that people just want rules is that you forget why people get into the hobby in the first place. Plainly speaking, I know of no one who got into the hobby because of the rules or because they wanted to win every tournament, and I doubt this is the case for you Guy. In comes the lore, the fluff, the 50-90% of the army book (codex or battletome) that gets bashed for being around. The story of the setting, the characters and the horrifying monstrosities come to life through the lore. This is what makes people stay. Not the rules. Not the plastic. The stories.
@Heath86 2 жыл бұрын
This 100 percent
@syd4890 2 жыл бұрын
I got into the hobby because I like the miniatures and painting them. I know zero about the lore xp
@Orangecrowbarman 2 жыл бұрын
I came in because of the lore, but the farther away GW gets from it's core and the lore tabletop wise the more I look for their older rules systems that are more thematic and lore friendly. Case in point, if they published the old Battlefleet Gothic rules or any of the old unsupported specialist games it might actually get me to buy in
@mrheisenberg83 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it IS a big hobby and different people like different parts of it, ignore some completely and stay for their own reasons. I know plenty of people who love the hobby for all kinds of different reasons. In the grim darkness of the far future there is not only lore!
@Suicidalduck321 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry guy, I chose the orruk boss as well. We can be orky together ❤
@MidwinterMinis 2 жыл бұрын
WAAAAAAGH
@demon1103 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Probably gonna turn him into a Beastboss.....if I remember to do so in the year it'll take to get him *sigh*
@schuerfrau 2 жыл бұрын
Didn‘t choose the orruk, but I am gonna buy him anyway as there will be an option to buy the model one did not choose
@SugarCandyMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын
Fun to hear your opinions. Glad they didn't steal your music. I havent subscribed yet because I'll wait until Louise's series is all finished its first season so to speak and rhen binge them all in a month.
@mvb8263 2 жыл бұрын
The quality of this video is the highest i have yet seen. Great short skits, lovely jokes and by far THE hottest spice melange out there. Keep up the great content, kisses
@AutisticWombot 2 жыл бұрын
Its just a chord progression. Personally I prefer your music production, Guy😂
@MidwinterMinis 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, exactly, 2 chords and a similar synth sound, I'm not going to bust out the lawsuit just yet, haha
@al424242 2 жыл бұрын
Careful they might come for you in a few years time. Didn't they try to claim they invented the decades old term space marine?
@klug5916 2 жыл бұрын
As I'm a painter and not a player since years (I went to the upper levels, playing RPG, not wargames ;-) ), I was only interested in the animation. Recently, various styles and approaches on the Net and KZfaq in particular were awesome. Due to the launch of W+, many shows or videos were cancelled or deleted. And so I was curious and was waiting the new arrival of GW animation videos. With the free trial, I discovered the first episode, and sorry, it was below any normal standarts (story weird, characters simplified, poor animation -not really animation, no real tension). Compared to a SODAZ normal video, wow, what a shame. Compared to a ultra funny and witty TTS, what a bummer. As for painting, well, much more artists and painters on the Internet are more interesting than the offical ones. I even prefer you guys of Midwinter Minis to the officla GW channel (funnier, cosier and much more honest), not to speak about the others (Trovarion, Nijon, Marco, Squidmar, Miniac...). So, paying a quite significant amount of money per month for not so much is really annoying, due to the consequences GW is bringing to the fans and community with copyrights and such. Anyway, nice video, thanks for sharing!
@Xanuricus 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely LOL'ed at the Space Hulk intro bit
@iaing6872 2 жыл бұрын
Just rewatching to get you some extra pennies... really going off gw because of their practice but love your content
@SunDancerGE 2 жыл бұрын
"The vault is not without issues" yes it is! It's missing a lot of issues! ;) #scnr
@MidwinterMinis 2 жыл бұрын
How did I miss making that pun! Ugh
@SunDancerGE 2 жыл бұрын
@@MidwinterMinis Because I'm an old cynic fart of a grognard... Puns are my lifeblood.
@murraysminis9390 2 жыл бұрын
i decided to opt in, took me half an hour and a reedit search to get on. some of the stuff is good, blood angels stuff is good, painting videos so far are great totally agree with you there mate. still need to give the bat reps a go :)
@tsmole68 2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me when you sub, how do you access all the "plus" content as I did a search in Play store and nothing is coming up for "Warhammer+", just the 40k app and WH-TV app. So I'm thinking it's a webpage not an app?
@murraysminis9390 2 жыл бұрын
I had to do it through my subscriptions on my iPhone setting. Then refreshed the Warhammer TV app
@tsmole68 2 жыл бұрын
@@murraysminis9390 so there's no specific Warhammer+ app just gives you the "+ content" in other apps like Warhammer TV & the 40k app ?
@murraysminis9390 2 жыл бұрын
That’s right mate, confused the hell out of me to.
@tsmole68 2 жыл бұрын
@@murraysminis9390 it's the fact they constantly refer to "The App" oh well I took the plunge for a year, just haven't had the opportunity to check it out. Downloaded WH-TV on the Fire Stick so I can watch content on the big screen 😁
@barrywonderdog 2 жыл бұрын
One additional point... I can't see any sort of search function for the Vault. There are just thumbnails of the publications. If GW is going to add more to this, it really needs some kind of way of searching the contents of each publication. I'm not going to open dozens of documents just to find, say, a particular painting guide or aspect of the lore.
@Maxmillion77 2 жыл бұрын
This has already been said a bunch but the composer is Jonathan Hartman, a film score composer. I think there are a few videos on him on the Warhmmer YT page in fact.
@jontiummorkimus7111 2 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that Games Workshop are becoming (or are) like the Google of the miniature war gaming hobby, in the sense that they do what they want, whether something was popular or not they will go ahead or remove it because they want to. Personally I find the old painting charts very useful, the one with the Space Marine backpack painted up using either layers or drybrush, just so quick and easy to get some paint on there without having to think about it too much, but they were replaced by the painting app which is finicky and relies on having a screen to look at rather than just a few printed pages. It sounds like Warhammer+ will be the same - content will change, things that people use might be removed at any time, and I think that's the wrong way to go about such a service. If it had micro transactions for additional things such as access to the entire back catalogue of White Dwarf issues in crisp high definition with a print option, that would be good and might even entice me in, but being at the whim of the current management as to what they want me to see? Nah.
@datsundes 2 жыл бұрын
Nice balanced review, makes a change from the polarising 100% negative or ‘GW can do no wrong’ type viewpoints. Glad the copyright shenanigans got ironed out 👍
@rockroo9874 2 жыл бұрын
Guy is the Head of the warhammer nation in my eyes!! I love the content and you made me start collecting warhammer moddles 😊😊
@jasonrhome710 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, there's some red and blue plastic in there too! And some yellow... and green... I think a few black... a tannish one I'm still building...
@LadungsBlitz 2 жыл бұрын
Man gw steals everything under the sun but doesnt want fans to make videos…
@minishaw280 2 жыл бұрын
The blood angels show has already made it worth it for me !! I fricken love it
@aerynmusick4548 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the animations so far, but I haven’t figured out how to get beyond episode 1 of Hammer and Bolter.
@Gogsnik 2 жыл бұрын
Not only do I have my own pile of shame my Dad just found some boxes of napoleonic troops in the allotment shed, so now I'm having to work through his pile of shame too - one of them is from 1989, it's almost as old as me!!
@-Benedict 2 жыл бұрын
Naps are awesome. Welcome to the rabbit hole.
@jaratt85 2 жыл бұрын
GW doing shady shit? Nah that couldn't ever happen..
@DiningTablePrintPlay 2 жыл бұрын
Also would 100% back a Louise Sugden mini-painting Patreon without even stopping long enough to breathe.
@xJRSUMMERSx 2 жыл бұрын
I picked the orruk too :) my biggest surprise is that they haven’t done anything with their enormous back catalogue of audio and e books, even if they never put anything on there till it was 5 years old there would be an amazing amount of content to bulk up the service :)
@MrSwankypants 2 жыл бұрын
Guy, your scary make up from the live stream was so so very worth it 😆😆
@alexstratford278 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason they don't do credits anymore is due to the old SM codex and Matt Ward, he got death threats and IIRC he quit writing about 40k for a few years due to harassment and even today his name alone brings up a lot of vitriol. While credits are nice, and I'd love to know who did what at the end of the day if it means that people get harassed and death threats due to them? I'd rather they were skipped like they do now.
@beardhammerwargaming 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was looking for a comment that mentioned Mat Ward. Otherwise I would have written it myself xD And don't forget that some publications were "credited" to Mat Ward by the community even though hasn't written them.
@writtenwisely 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's sad when the unofficial stuff is better than the licensed goods. Have a Volks kit that makes me regret not taking the advice to buy the bootleg kit over official kit... (don't get me wrong, creators need their dues, but, man, it seems like a trend that the official is lesser in quality than the unofficial)
@fylgjafox249 2 жыл бұрын
Even bigger youtubers with teams have credits lately. That GW can't be arsed speaks volumes about how little they care for and respect the artists on their team.
@cfrutiger 2 жыл бұрын
I took the Orruk model too, I already have an Orruk army, so I'll get use of him
@salamanda550 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, for me, the only thing I was looking forward to from Warhammer + was the Exodite, and more Astartes....so..I still don't even know if it's worth it..for me, at least.
@Druttentjock 2 жыл бұрын
Everything should be accessible from the same webpage/app. I agree with most of what you are saying, the difference for me is that I am hyped for the animations. There is not enough of it is my first issue and secondly quality it kind of all over the place.
@Darkreaper1982 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a mate who has done some work on audio books and with the new Warhammer+ (he's a voice actor). He's never had anything bad to say, he was chuffed he got to work with Brian Blessed, and he never complains about going to conventions to talk to fans. I haven't spoken to him recently but I know he's on the "protective" side when it comes to credits. He likes credits as it's a good way for him and other voice actors/artists to pick up work from other companies. I didn't know how he feels about GW removing all credits (they use to give them) but I doubt he'll be happy (unless they're paying him loads!).
@JaketheDog3333 2 жыл бұрын
Just realized Guy's wearing eyeliner. And he is ROCKING it.
@michimatsch5862 2 жыл бұрын
Was an accident he said. He totally does rock it though.
@ARI-ARI678 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes 1 view 6 likes
@JennFaeAge 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I really enjoy it, admittedly the fact I could waste hours just looking at the vault helps (if Marvel did something similar I'd give them all my money lol). I get the animation isn't for everyone, but I like the styles (especially Angels), plus as an avid reader a whole episode in a library is right up my alley
@sanctioner 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel Unlimited is amazing, and only $10/month.
@Juno_Colchis 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say the eyeliner is looking great :)
@MoadikumMoodocks 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer your version too. I love the clarity of the drum rhythm. Thanks for the review. I am curious about this whole thing. It's almost worth it for the model - but I don't like either this time around (would prefer just the standard vindicare. I'm also interested in the list building. You don't mention it, so I guess it's not out yet. I want something that can take my list, and then condensed all the rules to just what I need to play my models for that game - and yeah I agree, being able to access it online and not just through the App would be great. Cheers.
@WinterDisco 2 жыл бұрын
I feel personally called out by your last comment. :( But I agree with everything you said about WH+: animation is meh, gameplay and painting is great, vault is okay but lacks features. But most of all… no full screen!!
@liam9710 2 жыл бұрын
Just double click the video.
@sprinkleLPs 2 жыл бұрын
I would personally hate to go digital or only have special edition physical codexes. Having a book is just a lot less “sluggish”, i guess? At least to me anyway
@Limeonal 2 жыл бұрын
There's no reason GW couldn't implement both digital and physical codexes.
@neruneri 2 жыл бұрын
@@Limeonal Yep. The argument Guy was making is that instead of physical only codexes, we should have both. And I agree.
@00pugsly48 2 жыл бұрын
It is when there’s one book. It’s when they have rules spread out and you have to swap between them it sucks.
@samsneddon4203 2 жыл бұрын
Guy. I dont know if you’ll read this but I found the piece of music that GW have taken the “chime” sound that plays when the sliding Warhammer logo plays at the start of every GW video. It is the first and last note of the piece titled Century from Really Slow Motion. I wonder if they licensed or ripped it?
@thanewargaming2572 2 жыл бұрын
it might just be me who noticed this but guy had some black substence in his eye my guess is that he filmed the cake bit first then recorded the rest and he must not have been able to remove all the makeup from his eyes
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