Radovan Dragović I wonder about making+shaping the hammer from low-quality steel, then case-hardening just the outside?

@@lmack3024 Low quality and softer steel is not hardenable.

@@Fabianwew Case hardening adds carbon from organic materials like leather, from the outside inwards. It's a very traditional way to give even Iron a hard steel working surface. Its a very old folklore thing to not grind an axe too far because you'll get past 'the good steel' down into the soft iron that cant hold an edge. A hammer wont have that problem. Lots of videos of it being done.

Challenge accepted.

Furniture made of wood or human bone?

Throne of skulls maybe?

It's not a warhammer just a hammer. Teo handed huge hammers are warhammers. Like battleaxes. Not the same with one hand

+James Hart Raven's beak is a translation of 'Bec de Corbin' which was used in some French sources. It is not very common in English sources though.

Also, force is velocity x mass. So having a smaller weapon will be lighter. If its lighter you can swing it much faster appling more force. So having a light weapon will hit hard due to velocity being a major factor to force. Not only that but pressure. Force/Area so a smaller hammer head will increase the pressure causing more damage. These two factors is what makes a bullet more effective than an arrow. More velocity less area - result is much more pressure causing penetrarive properties.

Lensius Force is acceleration times mass. You're probably thinking of kinetic energy, 1/2*mass*v^2. So doubling velocity would have a greater contribution to the kinetic energy of a strike than doubling mass.

Lensius now your enemy would be durability well seeing as you would hit harder with the lighter weapon you would need to add reinforcements to the structure of the weapon to use your full force because the stock weapon would break so that means lighter isnt always better sory for my english XD

meareAaron lighter isn't always weaker

my point was that you would still need better material and that a stock weapon wont always be better

Yeah, plus it's fantasy, so there's a bit of leeway when it comes to realism as long as it stays internally consistent. (Although personally I prefer more "realistic" fantasy where the unusual elements are limited.)

and usually the hammer heads are massive!

in the books no one says that the mountain is fast, only that he's fast for being that big... and it's really huge, by the description and comparison of different charachters can be deduced that Gregor Clegane (book version) is tall aroud 2.40m (7'10") and with a huge corporature... no man can be that tall and big in the real world without some serious health problems... so it's not that absurd that he uses a greatsword of a normal man with one hand (or more probably as a bastard 1 hand and a half sword)... for robert's weapon, it's called a warhammer but probably the description and usage make it closer to a big two-handed maul...

Yes, I agree, my issue was with people complaining about how the fight looked like crap on the show based on unrealistic expectations. The Mountain is a fantasy man-beast archetype, in 'reality' to be a strong warrior he would have to be more like seven feet tall and not eight, and not that fast with the greatsword, if it was heavy even for the massive dude they got to play him. Maybe he was sloppier with his sword than he could have been given more fight training, I don't know, but anyway, I am amused by how this guy thought the fight was good, and he is the closest thing we'll get to actually knowing how it might have gone down in real life, vs. the wannabe experts on KZfaq.

Jang Wait, so if you for example use training methods that will increase your body length you will be more prone to illness and other health problems?

Christopher Edberg No, he is saying that in order to measure 7 feet you need to have serious health problems. Generally it is a problem with the thyroid gland I think. It makes you very tall (although not necessarily larger) but since humans aren't really supposed to be that tall it has many ill effects on your health.

@@cloudybrains not the thyroid. The pituitary gland.

+Peter Schmidt Maces were around. Warhammers took a bit longer.

+Peter Schmidt Sure they probably did use hammers sometimes. Just not warhammers as we know them. We can tell they aren't as effective because of how popular maces were.

Mail was in wide use until 1400, at that point plate armor began appearing. But for the majority of the medieval ages, it was Chainmail. It may have been hard to make, but it was easier then to find chunks of iron or steel big enough to make a plate that big out of. Plate armor lasted a very short time compared to chain sadly. 100 years compared to 1000 (if you count the Romans and the byzantine soldiers equipped with mail). Then guns showed up and armor in general declined.

Brigandine plate was used by William the conqueror in 1066. Full plate was around soon after. Maille was completely gone by the hundred years war. Full plate lasted well into the renaissance until musket improvement made it obsolete. So well over 600 years of use. In fact, gunpowder weapons were in use in the 1350s during the hundred years war when Milanese plate was dominating. You did not need large pieces of metal. Metal welds together when heated glowing red, plate had a very long history, well into the gunpowder age.

Christopher Felix William the Conqueror's milites used brigandine armor? Could you perhaps cite some sources on this? I am aware that some of his knights might have worn lamellar or scale, but never brigandine. Plate armor only started to appear in Europe in the late 13th century, and then only as bits and pieces worn over mail with more and more body parts being eventually shod in solid steel as the practice gained wider acceptance. The full body suit of plate so commonly associated with the Middle Ages wasnt around until the mid14th century, what most scholars would call the Late Middle Ages.

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I've been trying to figure it out myself too, any luck?

But it swings so fast 😏

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Yeah, but not much of a thought. What would you expect a chimp to do? Wield it with expedient mastery? Most likely they would look at it, chew on the handle for a while, and then go away.

They are capable of using other, more dextrously demanding, tools with reasonable proficiency. No reason why they couldn't be taught to swing a hammer in the general direction of an enemy.

Nope not effectively, he would be gimping himself. Can you imagine how fast and hard he would be able to swing a normal warhammer like the one matt is holding.

I could definitely punch through plate with mine. Not gonna test it on my own, though!

i kinda figured, just no one believes me when i say there are one handed versions.

i haven't actually had the chance to do a search and to show someone the picture so... ya.

Some american soldiers have, and still do use tomahawks. But it was never a standard issue as far as I know, more of a "if you want to buy it yourself and carry it you can," kind of thing.

Some soldiers carry the newer tomahawks made of highly durable and light weight plastics and metals, but its more of an attempt to look badass as opposed to being functional in today's warfare.

its important to remember that b4 the gauls and Britons were conquered by the romans and interbred. the men their were larger in build. this is where the term barbarian comes from the romans saw gauls and Britons as large brutish heathens. thors hammer would have been similar to a masonry/blacksmithing hammer with a shorter handle. shorter handle less leverage. and easier to swing with raw muscle.

Hellion my bad I misspoke on the barbarian origin its actually Greek

Thor's hammer was very specific in its mythology: -It could strike as hard as Thor wanted -It would always hit on a throw -It would always return to Thor's hand after a throw It's quite possible that Thor was attributed a hammer as weapon only because he was he had control of the lightning. Speaking outside mythology: why bother swinging a dull and overly heavy hammer, when you could do with a perfectly fine axe? Even warhammers were actually picks (like the one shown in the vid), with the second hammerhead serving for balance purposes.

Jersey Streicher Well it was actually a bad joke. As far as I know, warhammers weren't as heavy as they look like (maybe 2 or 3 kilos at worst) and they were used against heavy armor to smash where the axes couldn't penetrate. Yet still I'm no expert. That's why you'd bother to swing a dull and maybe overly heavy hammer, instead or wielding something far more dangerous like a flail, who can hit you, your enemy or that guy who was passing right there...

KairoStark "they were used against heavy armor to smash where the axes couldn't penetrate." -This statement isn't actually very sensible. Pressure is described as force/unit of area. The greater the force, and the smaller the area the greater the pressure and the chance to defeat a barrier (like during driving a nail in the wall, or piercing a plate with a pick). If take two identical hafts, and two identical amounts of steel, to make two different heads (one completely blunt, and the other one with a spike) there is NO chance that the "hammer" would perform better at anything (except maybe cracking nuts or driving nails). BTW: I never saw a piece of cracked armor in a museum, dented and pierced - by all means. "instead or wielding something far more dangerous like a flail, who can hit you, your enemy or that guy who was passing right there..." -Just because some weapon existed, and actually saw real use (unlike the fantasy based combat sledgehammer) it doesn't mean that it was particularily popular or successful. While two handed flails (basically only slightly modified agricultural tools initially designed for threshing) saw a lot of use, especially during insurrections. There are very few museum examples of the one handed "haft + chain + spiked ball" flails

I'm not 100% sure if it is the same one that Matt has in this video. But it looks identical. You be the judge. www.arms-armor.com/products/war-hammer-detail_145

@@ApophaticCartesian8 I'm inclined to agree with you, do you have any idea how they make their weapons? If they're "battle ready"? I might have to get me one

Any luck in finding it?

+CarnalKid Oh, anyone can swing any hammer they can lift... but the balance is so bad that it'll take them forever to recover from the swing, prolly be dead before anyone could get the chance to try a second one. Doesn't really matter how strong they are. That's why larger hammers were not effective weapons.

Lucas Riley A warhammer is 2-3lbs and all the weight is at the head, it is not an amazingly nimble sword balanced toward the grip or something. They could easily squat 3 times what you could (probably), so why not swing a hammer only twice as heavy with the same effectiveness?

"it is not an amazingly nimble sword balanced toward the grip or something." Exactly the point I just made. Doesn't matter if they are 3 times stronger, if they try swinging a hammer around with double the weight at the end they'll have zero defence after a swing and die pretty fast in battle. Thats why it wasn't done. If you want to know the physics behind it get a physicist to explain it to you, they'll do a much better job of it.

Lucas Riley "It just won't work, I can't explain why". You see why that's an awful answer, right?

yup, and like I said, the physicist will give you a better one, go find one pls.