There's other accounts of such things. I really have no answer. If it was something in the food I would think there would be more cases, especially with the large amounts of food Purina produces.

I like to rotate my kibble brands, just incase 1 brand isnt balanced properly, one brand is high in toxins, heavy metals, this way your dog isnt just eating the same brand 24/7, month after month year after year, also say you cant get the brand you feed, you can buy another brand & you know yes my dog does well on ????, or if your kibble brand decides to change ingredients & ingredients agreeing with your dog, you know I can quicky buy this brand kibble & my dog does well on it. Find at least 3 different brands your dog does well on.. You can either rotate as the dogs large kibble bag is coming an end, buy another brand & introduce new brand with rest of old kibble mix them together or change kibble brands with the Seasons.. This way your dog is getting a variety of different ingredients & different meats, & dog is not eating the same ingredients year after year, this is when food sensitivies can start to happen, the dog immune system can start to react to an certain ingredient.. Also if somethng is wrong with a brand, just pray your dog isnt eating this brand & batch & you've rotated to another brand. + I found my dog immune system became stronger & he wasnt reacting (IBD) to as many fibers & ingredients.

Yes hears of similar stories from ppl I came across. My mom told me about one of the neighbors, I forgot which prescription diet or brand but the dog had 1 issue supposedly, hence put on the Rx diet, then ended up with hot spots all over. Some ppl are clueless, it was obviously a correlation to the food. But then again a non Rx food could do the same. Hopefully these ppl stopped feeding this Rx food. I do rotation proteins and different types of food and the dogs all thrive. You can tell by skin, stool and long lived.

Yes something is horribly wrong with almost all the kibble, mostly Purina brands. Dogs & Cats are getting chronically ill and or dying. Symptoms seem to be mimicking that of an insecticide poisoning. But no actual testing has been done.

@@terivaillancourt9170 it does sound like poisoning but there should be many many more cases, not so random and spread out.

Yes, its awful. Oh, there's lawsuits alright! Your mistake is lumping all dry food as the same. It is simply not true. the people promoting that obvious lie are selling something. As usual. and hey, feed raw, homemade, whatever, just make sure you have a valid recipe. There is a real danger of messing that up.

No it's a different group

Do you read ingredient labels at the grocery store? If you see a product that lists suger, high fructose corn syrup, palm oil, bleached flour, etc that is high carb high fat does this mean it is nutritious? Would adding some synthetic vitamins make these unhealthy ingredients any more nutritious? Breakfast cereal such as lucky charms is basically junk food with some synthetic vitamins sprayed on. Does the sprayed in vitamins cancel out the unhealthy ingredients? Of course not. No amount of added fake vitamins will change the fact that the main ingredients are poor quality. It's like putting a new coat of paint on an old door. It may look pretty but underneath it is still rotten.

@@catmomto7996 excellent point, but those ingredients you mentioned are easily identifiable. you know what they are. the pet food industry has the luxury of vague definitions for ingredients so the consumer really doesn't know what that ingredient is. So its strictly up to the pet food company to decide the quality of its ingredients. That's not good. we have an industry that affects our pets health and it is pretty much accou table to no one. And now that its all about ingredients, the nutrients provided are getting worse and worse.

that's a good explanation. the ingredient panel can only tell us so much. if it had to be honest it would help but they will all be manipulated now. A subscriber said RC has some very honest ingredient panels, with Corn as a first ingredient. We would need real definitions for ingredient names but the best would be making actual nutrient levels disclosed for every diet.

The toad, thanks! I will def check it out! I don’t want to pick on the same folks!

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy check out BKpets if you looking for more misinformation

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy have you seen this? Pet Fooled FULL MOVIE - The Shocking Truth About The Pet Food Industry

Avoid any All Life Stage foods, at least. Science Diet has a salmon Perfect Digestion or the new Pollock Meal and Insect diet has no common allergens and a great nutrient profile for a senior. the Prescription Diets are expensive but all are senior profiles as well.

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy We just started her on the Royal Canin Hydolized protein small breed. We'll see how that goes

Look at "Wellness Simple" try the Turkey & Potato or the Salmon & Potato formula. Or here's their Wellness Simple Small Breed Salmon & Potato kibble, it will have smaller size kibbles & higher fat% for small breeds as they are more active then medium & Large breed dogs. You can also buy the matching Wellness Simple wet cans foods as well. Wellness Simple is chicken free, higher Omega-3 & the Omega-3 is 1/2 what the Omega -6% is, this will help her skin & Coat also she might have a grain intolerance & she is sensitive too certain grains & its not teh Chicken?? My girl cant have Oats, Tapioca she becomes a itchy mess & BATHS are very important- relieve hot itchy skin, Weekly Baths are a must, so you wash off allergens off dogs Paws, Skin & Coat. Min Pins have VERY fine, short fur, making them her more sensitive to allergens that are outside, then breeds who have very thick coats... Environment allergies have become very bad these last 5+yrs, my vet said each year Environmental allergies seem to get worse with our poor dogs causing them grief, Cyopoint is 100% better then using the Apoquel. With Cytopoint your vet will know straight away if dog is still itchy after having Cytopoint injections, then its what dog is eating causing itchy skin, ears etc because Cytopoint stops itchy skin, coat, ears from environment allergies. Bath weekly in an Antibactial Shampoo, use baby wipes & wipe her down after being outside the days you dont bath, if she has itchy paws wipe her paws down, head, muzzle body, stomach using a fresh baby wipes to each section on her body, you will start to see a big difference after a diet change, baths & using baby wipes. & this will cost under $40 to buy a new food & some shampoo & Baby wipes www.wellnesspetfood.com/product-catalog/wellness-simple-grain-free-small-breed-salmon-and-potato-recipe/

I wouldn't use the word "raw" with someone who advocates commercial pet food! LOL

@@edschulhof6303 thats funny!

Professional knowledge???? He was a salesman!!! He never cites reputable veterinary research like Dr. Conor Brady or Dr. Billinghurst

@@RipJewels if you’re actually got going to claim the 75 years of research and the diets produced by Hills( and Purina and RC) are not reputable than you have absolutely no credibility. But you feel good believing what you believe. Good for you! Just do some senior blood work when your furry friend is geriatric to confirm you’re doing the right thing. We all have to choose who to believe. I believe the board certified nutritionists who make amazing diets because they are reviewed by their peers and the results are there to see. If willing to!

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy This isn't Europe. I think you should stop including RC with Hill's. RC Europe has very different formulas than US. Mars most definitely is changing the ingredients, if they haven't already. Purina makes grain free, wet cat food. I will give you that one. Even if they are based in Missouri. Rock Chalk! LOL

Well thank you!

adding it to my list!

Hills has a "Perfect Weight" adult formula that works very well for weight management. But my small dog actually lost weight switching to a regular adult Science Diet formula. The food he was on before wasn't optimized and had higher protein and fat levels, so, naturally he had gained weight on it. I also recommend being mindful of treats -- it's so easy to over-treat small dogs, and that can be a big source of their weight gain.

@@starnaito Perfect answer! Maybe just coming off a puppy food will do the trick.

Any of the main name brand Adult foods should be fine. They all make a small breed. hopefully just switching to adult will lower the calories and you'll be fine. Sounds like you're feeding too much too. Remember most of the confusion you're feeling is all the marketing nonsense. Try to ignore that if you can.

9 months old is no longer a puppy in a chihuahua.

A few folks have mentioned bare shelves but I haven't seen them. I could just imagine the lawsuits if a food company was pulling or not shipping product and didn't disclose it. I find that hard to believe.

LOL! Yes, I was painting my daughters house! Sometimes I forget Im on video!!!

haven't looked at that one yet!

WORD!

Absolutely

@@opyop3992 I do believe that something is going on with PPP. But there is alot of small companies that make a good quality kibble still. Atleast in Canada and I know a couple that export. They just call anything DRY poison at the most part. We try and feed a balance of raw/dry among single ingredient treats. The thing that alot of online groups refuse to look at is the water the pet drinks. I believe some dogs are getting sick off the food, but others need to look at some other issues like over vacation, treated water, ECT. The list they keep updating is very exaggerated IMO, but I still haven't feed a dry food on that list for decades.

@@opyop3992 I do believe that there is something going on with PPP but not every food on that list. They call anything dry at this point poison, which is not the case. There are still many small companies making great quality products. We feed a blend or raw/dry. Alot these groups have the blinders on and won't look at things like water source or treated water for one. More issues come from treated water among other environmental factors.

the bigger companies have buying clout, to be able to get high quality ingredients(if they choose) at a good price because they can buy so much. Smaller companies get what's left over and pay more. if a company was using horrible ingredients like 4D meat it would show up in excessive calcium and phosphorus. And other ingredients would most likely be low quality too. KZfaqrs love to point out the horrible low standards allowed by the profession, thanks to AAFCO, as if every company stoops to that level. And sadly, all they would have to do is look at nutrients but they never do.

@PetFoodPuzzleGuy you are a world of pet food information. Thank you! Would had never known that. Along with all this internet misinformation, they had a disturbing movie called "pet fooled", after watching that your traumatized.

On the "prescription" part of the diet - as I say, over and over, it is a form of positive gate-keeping. People mis-self-diagnose animals, all the time - and some of the diets would be detrimental if fed to an anamimal that was self-diagnosed with one disease, but actually had another issue. Requiring an actual veterinary diagnosis for "prescription" diets is necessary, positive gatekeeping of those diets.

Dr. Rae is great - I second her channel. I like that she uses a repeatable system to evaluate foods and, unlike some other vets on KZfaq, will have polite and logical discussions, unlike those others that just say "you are stupid" and "need to be educated" if you politely challenge any premise, even with science.

I'm going to do that! Thanks!

@@JesseDavis Absolutely! And I don't think of Feline YD often but it is actually very complicated when coming off the diet, unlike other conditions. Yet the critics call it Fraud.

Steph, yes! She is great! she should have a channel! The people who really have the good info are busy working, not promoting pseudo.

mrOlympia, the maximum optimal range for calcium is 1.0%. The max phosphorus is.8 %, so these are really high. I find few 2% calcium! To your point, I am always evaluating US brands unless specified. I hope that helps! Thanks for adding to the conversation!

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy Why is the kitten kibble the lowest? The lowest I use is edgaurd Cooper wet which is calcium 0.2 and pros 0.2. Any thoughts on the rotation diet?

@@SixTimesMrOlympia the rotation idea is somewhat valid I suppose. Don’t have a strong opinion on it. That .02 mineral level seems extremely low. I’m really perplexed by that.

@@PetFoodPuzzleGuy I replied here but my message is removed. Not sure what is happening. It had a link maybe that is why? Last thing. why is the kitten orijen values the lowest?

@@SixTimesMrOlympia I never saw it. I know it happens sometimes

Noted! I am getting a microphone soon!

Teri, I can't blame you for doubting anything these days. I'm the same way now. I realize my perspective is unique since I spent every day of my adult life in vet clinics across the country, seeing the results of these diets and working with the very people who designed them. That deep cleaning is almost as important making novel ingredient diets. A vet company like Hills, RC, and Purina know how critical cross contamination is. Many over the counter food companies who make novel ingredient diets have been tested and found to have other trace proteins. so what seems like BS to you is actually very real. But we all have to choose who to believe. Not easy these days.

Glenn and Dr. Rea both feed their dogs Hill's. I would try that before Royal Canin. Hill's has several different varieties of food for skin and food allergies.

I feed Royal canin and have since Jax was a puppy. I know Glenn is not crazy about Mars because some of their foods are bad but you cannot lump Royal canin wit those. They also do a lot of research, have many professionals on their team, boastful veterinary nutritionists. They do a lot of testing. We have not had any of the health issues I see reported in breed groups. No allergies, no itching, it’s lower calorie. We love it. I wouldn’t have a problem feeding Hills or Purina. RC is just what works for us

That was supposed to say board certified veterinary nutritionist!

@@StephanieStoudt-uv8nv "boastful" is more entertaining! LOL Whatever works for your dog, that is fine. Just know that most RC wet food contains carrageenan. It has been banned in the EU as a carcinogen. The FDA still allows carrageenan in human and pet food in the US. Happy Feline Friday

LOL! Yes! I forget i'm on video!

Rip, that is the same question Dr Mark Morris asked his dad , Dr Mark Morris sr! We’re managing disease by controlling nutrients. What about the vast percentage of pets who don’t have underlying health issues? Thus was born Science Diet in 1968, ways before premium pet food was cool. The premise was controlling nutrients to reduce the risk of the diseases they were managing. So thanks for a great question.

He mostly focus on senior dogs. I have asked about performance kibbles but Hill's only make them for the military or the police. From what I have been able to find, Hill's control the calcium and phosphorus levels better than Purina and RC. I feed Inukshuk because Purina doesn't control excesses in their performance lines. And to buy RC Energy,, I would have to live in Europe; or be sponsored through their breeders program. The only other alternatives in my area are Redpaw or Firstmate. Firstmate doesn't have very good quality control despite all the "alternative medicine" folks in the US promoting that brand. And it's a weird one for Americans to clamp onto because Canadians consider it as bad as Pedigree or Ol' Roy. I did ask Glenn to review Performatrin Prime since they seem to have better nutrients panels compared to the competitor. Ultra and Naturals seem to be uncontrolled.

Thanks Dannielle, seems to be our culture now. The lies sound so good and people don't think anymore. they react. And what's worse, its all because we love our animals so much.

I can only imagine how you feel.. knowing what you know and working for hills for so long it must hit hard when people continually throw hills under the bus. It just irritates me when so many people purposely set out to fear monger other pet parents. Usually the more popular ones on KZfaq have their own hidden agenda. I wouldn’t feed my girls hills if I didn’t think it was the best for them. So I will continue to recommend it whenever possible.

Its a vast liberal conspiracy 😂

Schekolda6794, emotion is ruling decisions now. critical thinking is rare. Look at the debates in our culture right now! Seriously! That's why marketing works so well now. we are all much more easily influenced if we are following our emotions. Facts don't matter.

Ed, couldn't agree more.

Thats funny you say I've been selling Big Pet Food based on the nutritional breakdown. You are absolutely right. That is the only way to evaluate a nutritional product. You, on the other hand, choose to look at individual ingredients as best you can, since the real Big Pet Food is all the companies manipulating you with ingredient panels and vague ingredient definitions. Notice they do not give you nutritional breakdowns. You might consider me part of the cult, but you actually did clarify our different positions very well. Thanks for your feedback.

Your kitties are blessed to have such an awesome mommy!

​ @catmomto7996 Glenn has gotten the nutritional information he talks about from board certified veterinary nutritionists. They are the only ones qualified to formulate pet food. Yes they worked for Hills but every board certified veterinary nutritionist even those in private practice, except one, agree. These pet food influencers, pet nutritionists, celebrity vets do not have that education. I wonder why they never have them on to interview on their channel? It would be an interesting debate