Warrior Cats Who Went Through The Most Pain/Heartbreak

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FuZe Blitz

FuZe Blitz

9 ай бұрын

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@fuzeblitz6326
@fuzeblitz6326 9 ай бұрын
For Crowfeather's part, I meant to add his father died and he was the only kit who survived his litter. My mistake!
@MakaylaJanelle97099
@MakaylaJanelle97099 9 ай бұрын
Oh ok😸😸😸
@LeafyDragonetz
@LeafyDragonetz 9 ай бұрын
And Breezepelt practically hated him :< Edit: Idk the true story of how he forgave Crowfeather, I'm only on River of Fire rn
@Cricketcheep
@Cricketcheep 9 ай бұрын
Sad when you think that his son breezepelt was the only one that survived his litter as well
@Empress-iz7en
@Empress-iz7en Ай бұрын
You also forgot about a few things with SquirrelFlight She was manipulated by yellow fang that she couldn't have kits, forced to foster her sisters kits, lost two of her own kits, didn't get to have more kits, temporarily exiled from thunderclan, forced to chose her fathers enemy's son brambleclaw or her uncle ashfur as her mate, lost most of her friends, treated like and outsider, hated by jayfeather lionblaze and hollyleaf for lying to them and brambleclaw, constantly got hurt for others, always felt sympathetic for others feeling that there pain was worse than hers, always felt ignored, left out, and even betrayed by others like ashfur etc,
@CleverHowever_Gaming-ym1zh
@CleverHowever_Gaming-ym1zh 8 ай бұрын
I kinda miss someone. I think Mistystar is really in the list. She lost her mother and father & sister really fast. Silverstream, her friend also died and her brother Stonefur and her apprentice Feathertail died. Stormfur, the only thing left, also died. Her three kits died and Blackclaw and leopardstar died as well. Further, its an awesome video and i totally agree with Crookedstar, Bluestar, Squirrelflight and mostly, Mapleshade, she deserved better.
@gracelynnw.3137
@gracelynnw.3137 9 ай бұрын
Im surprised BrightHeart wasnt on here! She was attacked my dogs, her best friend DIED, she thought her mate loved someone else for a LONG while, her apprentice left her, and people treat her differently!
@organ.ofvision
@organ.ofvision 8 ай бұрын
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@gracelynnw.3137
@gracelynnw.3137 8 ай бұрын
@@organ.ofvision Right! Wait, is your name Iris??
@Tsuyu_89
@Tsuyu_89 8 ай бұрын
I mean that’s true, idk why she thinks she’s ugly, I can’t spot a difference between old her and new her, I mean they are both beautiful and I have a oc (not a wc oc smth different which I barely want to share) what had his whole head fur ripped off leaving him with a skull for the rest of his non-living life and he looks even better But back to topic, brightheart is a beautiful cat it’s pretty much not her fault jayfeather’s and her relationship didn’t go well (not as love either, I cant stop putting stuff in brackets)
@asiangang0522
@asiangang0522 28 күн бұрын
and firestar promised her that she could train either icekit or foxkit but he gave them to squirrelflight and whitewing instead
@wildfirewolf8625
@wildfirewolf8625 8 ай бұрын
I 100% agree with Crookedstar being #1. He suffered more than any other cat, being tricked into making a promise that ended up taking away everyone he loved.
@Frostybreeeeze
@Frostybreeeeze 8 ай бұрын
Honestly I don’t think people know how hard it was for Graystripe, he lost his mate, Silverstream, while she was giving birth. Later Feathertail dies, she just vanished with stormfur and never saw her again after that. Stormfur told him that she was dead but that was one of the last times he saw stormfur before he was captured by twolegs. He never got to tell him goodbye before stormfur went to join the tribe. He has lost his mate and two kits. Ravenpaw dies and all he really has left is Firestar and millie at this point. He does have kits with Millie but briarlight becomes paralyzed at a young age witch leaves Graystripe to live in terror that her health isn’t the best. Graystripe has lost so much but it gets so much worse. Firestar dies to Tigerclaw and all he can do is grieve for the rest of the time he lives. He lost everything, everyone, that he loved.
@asiangang0522
@asiangang0522 29 күн бұрын
well he still had stormfur because stormfur and brook later joined thunderclan in sunset (the new prophecy)
@Frostybreeeeze
@Frostybreeeeze 29 күн бұрын
@@asiangang0522 yes I forgot about that. My bad.
@JustKittenAround225
@JustKittenAround225 9 ай бұрын
I had a feeling it was going to be Bluestar and Crookedstar. Poor kitties
@ultraviolet5501
@ultraviolet5501 9 ай бұрын
I somehow can relate to Bluestar because i lost ppl i cared about and got betrayed by most of my classmate causing me to stop trusting them (except my crush and friend)
@iandean1112
@iandean1112 9 ай бұрын
I feel that a lot. Especially after losing my sister recently, I've read the books again and my heart aches for Bluestar. She was considered one of the all time great leaders, but she sacrificed so much to make it all happen. She lost her mate, a kit, 2 deputies, a medicine cat, and she was betrayed.
@Tupclutch
@Tupclutch 8 ай бұрын
@@iandean1112(spoiler if you didn’t read bluestars prophecy) She also lost her sister and mother
@iandean1112
@iandean1112 8 ай бұрын
@@Tupclutch I just finished it a couple weeks ago. It was SO SAD.
@Link32831
@Link32831 8 ай бұрын
I was bullied while in school by my former friends who were never my friends
@lynxone9434
@lynxone9434 9 ай бұрын
Crookedstar was one of my favorite leaders for sure
@Harlowe-the-cat-person
@Harlowe-the-cat-person 8 ай бұрын
Mapleshade should've been given a chance at StarClan. She was just heartbroken. Her kits didn't deserve to not be with their mother, as Mapleshade didn't deserve to not be with her kits.
@Tiggy0145
@Tiggy0145 5 ай бұрын
She murdered three cats because of hallucinations.That is the main reason she was put in the dark forest.
@user-lv6gh8pt3q
@user-lv6gh8pt3q 8 ай бұрын
Bluestar lived the worst pain.
@RobloxWolfrunnersrp
@RobloxWolfrunnersrp 8 ай бұрын
I have to say you got most of the cats there! good job!❤❤❤
@aliviahouk7018
@aliviahouk7018 9 ай бұрын
Dustpelt also never had a good relationship with any of his siblings. And his parents died. His best friend also stopped hanging out with him. For violetshine. She was also in pretty much in a camp ful of death, forced to work against the clans, whom she saw as good cats and raised her. And something sad about her is the she has motherly instinct. To all the cats who are younger than her. like flowerpaw, snakepaw, whorlpaw, the skyclan apprentices she helped bring back, and sunnypelt. Why is this sad? She never had a mother figure. Her mom died, and pinenose just wanted to get rid of her. She wanted other young cats to have the chance to have a good childhood, unlike her. Btw I want her to have one more litter. I love grey wing. If I added to this I'd be here all day. I LOVE HIM SO MUCH Hollyleaf's whole life wasn't a lie. She was loved. By many cats. And she came to terms with that thankfully. Goosefeather needs another chance. He was done dirty. So unpopular opinion here. Mapleshade caused herself most of her pain. She was cocky, never thinking about what would happen when she revealed her kit's father, thinking everyone would accept it. If she told oakstar first then there would be no thinking his son was the father. Mapleshade also blames other cats for her mistakes. It was her mistake to bring the kits to the raging river, even though her mate warned her. She could have been accepted into riverclan if she had waited. Or she could have been a loner, cause appledusk sucks. She then killed ravenwing when all he did was be a good med cat and tell his leader about an omen. She killed frecklewish who did nothing. And she tried to kill a pregnant woman and then killed her now ex. She went too far. But it was funny. YES. Squirrelflight. She deserves so much more. I hope she becomes leader! Leafpool's mate also told her he understood then decided to be passive aggressive towards her! Poor shadowsight. He also never had a connection to starclan. Yes ivypool should be here. Yellowfang was also blamed for the death of her siblings and her mate was toxic I wish bluestar would have waited one more night. And it was all for nothing. Tawnyspots didn't even die until her kits would have been apprenticed. And sunstar never even considered thistleclaw.
@Mimikai4884
@Mimikai4884 9 ай бұрын
This for the Violetshine part, I think the closets cat who was like a mother to her was Lilyheart, the cat who took her and her sister in, yet she was separated and taken in by ShadowClan, who didn’t even appreciate her. I not a fan of Violetshine, cause she’s not really my cup of tea, but dang, she went through some shit and it’s sad
@aliviahouk7018
@aliviahouk7018 9 ай бұрын
Yeah. I understand. If only bramblestar let both kits go or fought for them. The only parent she ever had in her youth was lilyheart, who she was forced to leave. She deserves so much.
@Mimikai4884
@Mimikai4884 9 ай бұрын
Honestly, yea, she deserved so much better than what she got in The Vision of Shadows arc. And I never understood why Bramblestar even allowed himself to accept her and Twigbranch to be separated, like I think would make sense if he never accepted cause he knows how it feel to have a sibling be separated from you (in this case that being Tawnypelt leaving ThunderClan). Man, I feel bad for almost every day in that arc.
@aliviahouk7018
@aliviahouk7018 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention the twigfin romance. Fin and his siblings should think of hawkwing as another dad. Making him and twigbranch siblings. I wanted that, but instead we get a little man obsessed with having babies.
@Mimikai4884
@Mimikai4884 8 ай бұрын
As much I loved the fact that the writers made Twig stood around when Fin was being a jerk about her not wanting kits, yeaaa- it’s feel weird and just iffy that Fintail and Twigbranch are mates considering the fact that Hawkwing basically adopted Fintail and his siblings (even the wiki acknowledges the fact they basically Hawkwing adopted children), which honestly, I think it would have made a interesting thing to have, just Twigbranch connecting with her adopted siblings, but nope, romance it is.
@thatweirdfangirl15
@thatweirdfangirl15 9 ай бұрын
My girl Squirrelflight deserves better
@That_one_weirdasf_dude
@That_one_weirdasf_dude 9 ай бұрын
1000% agree with this list Especially Graystripe
@user-fe3fk6jb4e
@user-fe3fk6jb4e 7 ай бұрын
Rootspring was bullied about his father and bristlefrost died making him miserable and just down right sad
@asiangang0522
@asiangang0522 29 күн бұрын
dont forget how blustar also lost her best friend redtail and her mate that she truly loved died
@BaldCatMemes
@BaldCatMemes 9 ай бұрын
Eaaarrlly gang we all love your videos Fuze and I’m sorry to hear that you’re going through a tough time ❤
@cynophobes
@cynophobes 9 ай бұрын
Finally Crookedstar getting some recognition!
@AnnaFavata
@AnnaFavata Ай бұрын
I also think that Hawkwing deserves to be a part of this list. He lost his brother, his father, and his mate; he was betrayed by the cat he thought was a friend, and he and the rest of his Clan had to embark on a treacherous journey to find the other four Clans, losing Clanmates along the way. His own apprentice, Curlypaw, decided to bail on him and SkyClan to become a kittypet.
@Lake_notDC.LakeTho
@Lake_notDC.LakeTho 8 ай бұрын
I was expecting Leopardstar here XD
@Tsuyu_89
@Tsuyu_89 9 ай бұрын
The fact 2 one of my fav characters are on here, MapleShade and yellowfang
@AnnaFavata
@AnnaFavata Ай бұрын
Also, what about Stormfur? His mother died giving birth to him, he watched his mentor, Stonefur, die, his sister died and he was powerless to save her, and later on, he and Brook were exiled from the Tribe, with Stoneteller telling them that they were "dead in the eyes of the Tribe". Also, let's not forget that his father was from a different Clan. To be honest, I think that Stormfur is only one of many commonly forgotten characters in the series.
@AnnaFavata
@AnnaFavata Ай бұрын
I think that Longtail should also be on this list. The two cats that he thought of as his closest friends ended up being giant traitors, his apprentice (Swiftpaw) died, and he was later blinded by a rabbit, forcing him to retire to the elders' den early.
@MakaylaJanelle97099
@MakaylaJanelle97099 9 ай бұрын
Love this video 🐱
@An_Average_Human1
@An_Average_Human1 8 ай бұрын
YES MAPLESHADE IS ON THIS LIST YAYYYY
@Eastonthemoth
@Eastonthemoth 7 ай бұрын
I have a question, why isn't Clear Sky up here? He lost his mate and unborn kits, then his brother abandoned him, then his mate broke up with him, only for her and her kits to die so then because of the stress and pressure he had to give up his son only to take him back but then his son leaves him again and One Eye kicks him out from his home and nearly kills his adopted niece, then he gets beaten up and on top of that he has to live with the guilt of all his actions. If anyone replies "yeah but hes evil and he caused what happened" HELLO? MAPLESHADE'S ON HERE?
@brigittat9595
@brigittat9595 2 ай бұрын
I also think Tallstar also suffered His littermate, Finchkit died, which caused his mother to be traumatized for a long time, and acted differently. His father wanted him to be a tunneler, but when Tallkit became Tallpaw, his father was mad angry at him, and also blamed Tallpaw, because they coulnt finish digging one of their tunnels, because Heathertail though it was too dangerous. BUT IM NOT DONE YET. Some time later, his father dies, and Tallpaw was devastated, and with all of his anger, he blamed Sparrow for his fathers death. Shrewpaw also bullied him, and none of his classmates didn't seem to do anything about it. Tallpaw/Talltail started going crazy with his anger and his clanmates started going against him also, after his fathers death, his mother, who was depressed for his sisters death, became mates with Woollytail, and had 4 kits with him. He starts being mean to him, and sometimes it was like Talltail didn't exist Tallstar is so underrated and deserves better
@maryjochidester716
@maryjochidester716 Ай бұрын
Greystripe went through so much and people don’t know about it :(
@laloongod4196
@laloongod4196 9 ай бұрын
I would rank leafpool lower than squirrelflight, she def deserved more hate from her kits but it’s mainly bc of her having a toxic mate
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 9 ай бұрын
Leafpool didn't have a toxic mate...? She and Crowfeather genuinely loved each other.
@laloongod4196
@laloongod4196 9 ай бұрын
@@_The_Lizard_King Crowfeather only cared for her for a short period. He was very mean and rejected her and then rejected their kits.
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 9 ай бұрын
@@laloongod4196 She broke up with him. He wasn't even in a relationship with her, and they were in different clans. He couldn't have cared for their kits.
@laUrelZxg118
@laUrelZxg118 2 ай бұрын
i think leafpool would be MUCH higher on the list than squilf
@SnowyAldc1
@SnowyAldc1 7 ай бұрын
I think this proves why MapleShade went crazy
@Cheetahwindstar
@Cheetahwindstar 7 ай бұрын
Crowfeather shoud be in 1!!!! His father Deadfoot died when he was just a kit, then he was in love whit Feathertail but she dies saving him, then he starts thingin that Leafpool is similar to Feathertail but she leaves him and later dies, then all cats doubt his loyality, he have three kits whit Nightcloud but only Breezekit survived and at the start he really loved Breezekit, but then he promised himself that he woud never love again cause just cause pain, then he discover tath he was the father of Hollyleaf, Lionblaze and Jayfeather at a gathering and his relations whit Nightcloud get worse, then in the fight whit the Dark Forest Hollyleaf and Ashfoot dies, then snow white small animals appers in WindClan territory, stoats, and Nightcloud gets lost, Ashfoot and Feathertail starts appering to him in his dreams and telling him to love again, then he got banished because he called his leader plan mousebrained, then he fall of a cliff and a kittypet find him whit the help of Feathertails spirit, then he fond Nightcloud and became jealous because she befriend a kittypet. I know that I had written somethings wrong but I have only 11 years old and I am from Brasil and I am written in may tablet not computer.
@ronny10x
@ronny10x 9 ай бұрын
cool video
@NellaJade
@NellaJade 9 ай бұрын
100% agree!! ❤
@thevampireof_guesodork0375
@thevampireof_guesodork0375 8 ай бұрын
Actually only one of bluestars kits died, (while she was alive) one died from the cold, but after bluestar had already passed her son joined her,
@elsapartridge
@elsapartridge 8 ай бұрын
I honesty think jayfeather had a harder life than ivypool, when he didnt know how to control his powers he got everyones thoughts right into his head, hus while life was a lie but he still stayed, he was treated differently for a long time, he lost the cat he loved 2 times, his sister died, his mother died he was forced to be a med cat and he had to let go of flametail, he had a very hard life
@brittanybianco9267
@brittanybianco9267 23 күн бұрын
Mistystars my favorite cat
@Pigcat45
@Pigcat45 8 ай бұрын
Poor cats. Mapleshade was an awful cat, but I still feel bad for her, no matter what anyone says. 😔
@AnnaFavata
@AnnaFavata Ай бұрын
Yes, Mapleshade was evil, but can anyone exactly blame her? After I read her story for the first time, I felt so sympathetic towards her. If Mapleshade and her kits had been given a fair chance by Ravenwing and Oakstar, she probably wouldn't have turned bad, and her kits probably would've made fine warriors.
@Pigcat45
@Pigcat45 Ай бұрын
@@AnnaFavata She still broke the warrior code and killed like 3 cats though.. I dunno, it's a very debatable topic.
@ekerslithery5955
@ekerslithery5955 7 ай бұрын
Where rootspring!??!?!
@arbuser1801
@arbuser1801 Ай бұрын
Graystripe's son, stormfur, is still alive
@dreamland9199
@dreamland9199 9 ай бұрын
Second Oh and I agree with everyone on this list
@TiffanyBrannam
@TiffanyBrannam 22 күн бұрын
Well stormfur could be on here like he never met his mom, his sister died, and his dad died I think before him
@brittanybianco9267
@brittanybianco9267 23 күн бұрын
I relate to dark tail but my mom instead
@FiZzSpIdEr-Inca
@FiZzSpIdEr-Inca 6 ай бұрын
Tallstar had a bad life when he was a app
@brigittat9595
@brigittat9595 2 ай бұрын
agreed. I cried when I realized how hard his life was
@FiZzSpIdEr-Inca
@FiZzSpIdEr-Inca 2 ай бұрын
@@brigittat9595 ikr
@icecreamthemaltese2202
@icecreamthemaltese2202 3 ай бұрын
2:38 And Shrewpaw died too.
@brittanybianco9267
@brittanybianco9267 23 күн бұрын
I absolutely love it I'm jc not Brittany this is my mom's account ❤
@madesometoday
@madesometoday 5 ай бұрын
So many spoilers! I had to stop the video bc I was crying so hard . I had no idea about squirrel paw and bramble paw, he became leader!? This is why I can’t look up these things just for a drawing.
@user-fe3fk6jb4e
@user-fe3fk6jb4e 7 ай бұрын
What about rootspring?
@ElinasYoutube-cv7rf
@ElinasYoutube-cv7rf 3 ай бұрын
Like i did almost exploud of sadnes when firestar died But i think Firestar he lost Spottedleaf Bluestar Yellowfang Cinderpelt and Squirllflight he lost her dad Firestar her sister Leafpool Her Mom Sandstorm
@ihavaasonja
@ihavaasonja 8 ай бұрын
And for Squirrelflight let's not forget that 3 of her kits died (with Hollyleaf included) 💔
@Icelyn_
@Icelyn_ 8 ай бұрын
Hollyleaf isnt her kit tho
@ihavaasonja
@ihavaasonja 8 ай бұрын
@@Icelyn_ yea not biologically but Squilf loved her as her own & Hollyleaf was raised by Squirrelflight
@kyleomelveny5254
@kyleomelveny5254 9 ай бұрын
List is correct all the way through
@dogqueen1247
@dogqueen1247 7 ай бұрын
Squirrelflight's life would have been better if Shrewpaw had lived i also think he would have been called Shrewheart
@Tururruuuuuuuuuuuuu
@Tururruuuuuuuuuuuuu 7 ай бұрын
Lmao I remember I saw one of those videos and the person said that Cilderpelt suffered more than Crookedstar and I was like "bitch excuse me? 💀"
@Stellerfern-Lunar
@Stellerfern-Lunar 25 күн бұрын
Does anyone even understands how Hollyleaf felt?!
@lilloverdose6985
@lilloverdose6985 9 ай бұрын
Yes crow feather had a bad relationship with my cloud, but that was his own fault for him and be there for him. He could’ve been like a normal. Sorry I just don’t feel like talking about it but instead he pushed her away how many times was she supposed to set her self on fire crow feather warm
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 9 ай бұрын
The video and the song,, I'm crying :') I agree with the list!
@kimharris5245
@kimharris5245 3 ай бұрын
Why isn't bright heart in this!? Her best friend DIED right in front of her eyes, blue star was cruel to her by calling her "lostface" and then she thought cloud tail liked someone else, and her eye got taken out by dogs, AND her other friend ferncloud DIED
@fuzeblitz6326
@fuzeblitz6326 3 ай бұрын
Unlike a lot of other characters who went through a lot, she was still able to be a warrior, get a mate and have kits and she lived happily after she accepted her injury
@Goldenrodd_Studios
@Goldenrodd_Studios 8 ай бұрын
Squirrelflight and hollyleaf did it to themselves
@lobathewolf3021
@lobathewolf3021 8 ай бұрын
birchfall: the last of his siblings and both parents are dead his mate whitewing is dead to... everyone: oh.. poor crowfeather... he lost so much..
@lizz2098
@lizz2098 6 ай бұрын
Whitewhing isnt dead
@lobathewolf3021
@lobathewolf3021 6 ай бұрын
@@lizz2098 uh actually…..
@lizz2098
@lizz2098 6 ай бұрын
@@lobathewolf3021 are you sure?
@lobathewolf3021
@lobathewolf3021 6 ай бұрын
@@lizz2098 offscreen death :(
@lizz2098
@lizz2098 6 ай бұрын
@@lobathewolf3021 iam very sure when i check the wiki she didn't die
@laloongod4196
@laloongod4196 9 ай бұрын
Crowfeather had a forbidden relationship with feathertail. Same with leafpool but he was mean to her and their kits which is why everything he went through was well-deserved
@laloongod4196
@laloongod4196 9 ай бұрын
Same with the relationship with nightcloud, don’t start it if it’s not gonna end well
@laloongod4196
@laloongod4196 9 ай бұрын
I totally agree with no.7 though, she was reluctant to lie to her clan and also had a toxic mate
@_The_Lizard_King
@_The_Lizard_King 9 ай бұрын
He didn't deserve to lose every cat he loved. How many cats were mean? How many cats broke the code? By your logic, Graystripe, Bluestar, Mapleshade, Goosefeather, Hollyleaf, and Leafpool deserved everything they went through. Also, Nightcloud and Crowfeather were BOTH toxic. Nightcloud was clingy and more aggressive. Crowfeather was distant and didn't love her. Crowfeather was never mean to his and Leafpool's kits. He was distant towards his and Nightcloud's kits. He's a morally grey character. Why does the fandom constantly try and make morally grey characters either innocent little angels or evil horrible people/cats. They're more complex than that.
@aliviahouk7018
@aliviahouk7018 9 ай бұрын
Agree with you despite the fact that he was passive aggressive to leafpool after saying he understood and supported her decision and disowned his children
@Emerald864x
@Emerald864x 8 ай бұрын
I agree with everyone, but I feel like graystripe should be a bit higher on the list. Otherwise I agree, I forgot to say but I don't really think that Hollyleaf should be on the list. She went through pretty much the same pain as her siblings. I respect your opinion to though
@laUrelZxg118
@laUrelZxg118 3 ай бұрын
leopardfoot or stonefur should be 16th and 17th
@Onyxseyes
@Onyxseyes 8 ай бұрын
Mapleshad expoilted the name of a dead guy and showed zero remorse for her actions. She was a toxic and emotionally abusive partner who only thought of him as an object. She tried to kill an innocent pregnant woman, kidnapped a child, and then went on to groom two kids, all because they were related to people she didn't like. She didn't suffer; it's called karma. Crowfeather is at fault for his bad relationship with Nightcloud. They both sucked; they both used each other for their own personal gain, and their toxicity toward each other had a negative effect on their kids. Squirrelflight's relationship with Bramblestar isn't one-sided abuse. She was just as abusive toward him. Her abuse started way back in TNP. Squirrelflight is equally abusive. She blackmailed him to take her on the journey. She lied to him and used him as a cuckold. Trust was a huge thing to him, and she used him. She acted judgmental and hateful toward him when he wanted to meet his brother, and they weren't built on suspense; they were built on pure jealousy. and tried to guilt-trip him into having more kits when he said he didn’t want any. They both constantly undermine each other's authority, and she does not respect him. She continues to go behind his back. To the point where he cannot trust her.
@Tupclutch
@Tupclutch 8 ай бұрын
Incorrect Bramblestar was a better mate ashfur ever could be. And no one start a war disagreeing with me because its true
@anniescott5964
@anniescott5964 3 ай бұрын
for people who are siding with mapleshade- I completely dissagree. Im not going to say mapleshade fans dont take murder seriously at all. 1: her novella. OKAY- i just hate mapleshades vengeance. the whole book teaches you nothing. 3 cats get killed and mapleshade doesnt feel any remorse. 2: she blamed her kits death on frecklewish and ravenwing (not just for her deaths but suffering). Ravenwing and frecklewish are ENTIRELY innocent. ravenwing had the vision that mapleshade was lying- and if she kept that secret in, she would be breaking the vow to starclan. and frecklewish wasnt even there at the river in time to save the kits- even if she was there, she couldnt. she'd just drown with em. 3: she learns no lesson. she kills 3 cats with no struggle which is unfair to me. I wish in the end, she failed at killing appledusk and reedshine but no- it does the excat opposite. and i wish she would feel anger that she was in the darkforest and thought: its not MY fault im here! its their fault.. i did NOTHING to be here. but no she never says that. Im just focusing on her main novella for this topic. if you dissagree with me, feel free to argue.
@icecreamthemaltese2202
@icecreamthemaltese2202 2 ай бұрын
I don't hate Mapleshade, but I don't like her either. Appledusk literally warned her that there would be a storm and not to cross the river ESPECIALLY with the kits at that time. And what does she do? She crosses the river, kits drown, and instead of taking the blame, she blames it on two cats who did nothing at all. Not to mention how ungrateful and disgusted she was everytime Myler saved her and tried helping her. Also what she did to Crookedstar, when he was just a kit, is awful. Leave the poor guy alone, he's already hated by his mother and broke his jaw, if your going to choose a kit to manipulate, which is still horrible, atleast choose another one. Edit: And what the hell did Sandstorm do? Nothing. Mapleshade expects to get everything her way, and she also expects to be better than everyone else, the only reason she tried killing Sandstorm is because she was jealous. I must admit, Mapleshade is a great villain, but I don't really like her as an overall character. But my dislike for her is nothing like my hatred for Ashfur, I hate that obsessive simp.
@LeafyDragonetz
@LeafyDragonetz 9 ай бұрын
The reason why Squirrelflight STILL ended up with a bad mate is her own fault because Ashfur wouldn't have trapped them, died, possessed Bramblestar, or have died twice. There's no way y'all can change my mind that everything about her mates are her own fault, because technically IT WAS. (No offense to the Squirrelflight fans)
@aliviahouk7018
@aliviahouk7018 9 ай бұрын
Ashfur was too clingy and almost suffocating for her. They also weren't a good fit. And she shouldn't have chose brambleclaw either, at the time she thought he was a good option. And it wasn't squirrelflight's fault that ashfur was obsessed. And don't try the if she chose him thing. If he hurt squilf he was always going too. Maybe if she didn't do exactly as he said or what. She deserves shrewpaw or like anyone else. I just wish her and bramble would have never gotten back together.
@-Warriors_KNY-
@-Warriors_KNY- 9 ай бұрын
@@aliviahouk7018 And Sootfur! Sootfur would have also been good for squilf!
@Mimikai4884
@Mimikai4884 9 ай бұрын
I have never heard someone suggest Sootfur, although honestly, as long it’s not the toxic hole that that is both Bramblestar and Ashfur, I’m down!
@LeafyDragonetz
@LeafyDragonetz 9 ай бұрын
@@aliviahouk7018 Squirrelflight would've been better off alone than with a mate. And I agree, Sootfur or Shrewpaw would've been a better choice, but then the books wouldn't be as good because it wouldn't have as much drama or they would just end early!
@Juanfilipe766
@Juanfilipe766 9 ай бұрын
Why is hollyleaf here but jay and lion aren’t? The other two suffered 1000 times more than she did, especially Jayfeather. She didn’t go through the most pain, she was just weak and couldn’t handle it.
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