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Was Elvis Racist? Well... Yeah. - RE:WIRE

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Re:wire

Re:wire

Күн бұрын

We tell the story of Elvis’ best song and do our best to answer the question: Was Elvis racist? The answer’s not a simple one, but it is a “yes.”
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MUSIC
“It’s Nothing to Me” by Bent Brothers - bentbrothers.b...
VHS Dreams by Shane Ivers - www.silvermans...
BIBLIOGRAPHY
“Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley” by Peter Guralnick
“Major Labels: A History of Popular Music in Seven Genres” by Kelefa Sanneh
That’s Alright, Elvis: The Untold Story of Elvis’ First Guitarist and Manager, Scotty Moore by Scotty Moore and James Dickerson
en.wikipedia.o...)
www.graceland....
genius.com/Elv...
• Elvis Presley - If I C...
www.independen...
www.theatlanti...
www.cheatsheet...
apnews.com/art...
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Introduction
2:12 Part One: If I Can Dream
7:46 Part Two: That's All Right, Mama
14:50 Part Three: Plunder
19:17 Part Four: The King is Dead
23:59 Conclusion
#elvis #criticalracetheory #ificandream

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@headwhop26
@headwhop26 2 жыл бұрын
Frankieeeeee dooooooont shoot meh
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but Elvis Presley made himself and BB King, who should know, said as much. So did Rufus Thomas and they were both Memphians and said 'That's All Right Mamma' was like nothing anyone had done or heard before. When, too, 'That's Alright Mamma' is not the song that catapulted Elvis to stratospheric success, as that didn't happen until the white written 'Heartbreak Hotel' two years later. Moreover, the great Jackie Wilson also said (and all the men referenced are black of course) that black performers took more from Elvis than he ever took from them, or a quote very, very similar to that, as I paraphrased. While Elvis, also, after Wilson had a heart attack, later, paid for his nursing home bills until his death. And this is a racist? Big Mamma Thornton? Her song Hound Dog was written by two white Jewish men. The same white gentlemen who took the song to Elvis to record and Elvis made a massive hit of it. When, too, Elvis amalgamated black music, white country & influences from every direction into what he did. When we know, too, that the black music referred to also took from white folk music, as ALL MUSIC can be found to have influences from elsewhere. Elvis, too - before 1954 - even used to go into Sun and actually helped the Prisonaires lead singer, who also stuttered like Elvis, get through that and the Prisonaires were eventually able to record the great song 'Walking in the Rain' due to Elvis helping the lead singer, Johnny Bragg, mouth the words without stuttering. While this whole absurd channel says Elvis was a racist when he also went to see Bragg and the group, in prison, to offer them money for lawyers and other needs, as well. When, at this time, especially in the deep south as they were, that in and of itself could have killed a white person's career. The sneer, the presentation of the music, the hair, the unabandoned dancing style was all original, as Elvis admitted he couldn't dance, but just did what came naturally to him. And, the bottom line is, what made Elvis Presley such a big star, is again as BB King said, he had it all. He was tall; he was handsome; Johnny Cash called him the best rhythm guitarist he ever saw; and he absolutely had a tremendous voice, far better than Chuck Berry's or Little Richard's or Carl Perkins, or pretty much anyone. And it's his voice being so incredible, and because he sang so many genres of music so incredibly well, that made him the greatest selling solo artist in music history and it's not even close. Now, did Elvis break through FIRST, because he was white. I believe so, but that only opened up the doors to great black music to the general public who hadn't heard it before then. While Elvis went through hell and almost quit, such was the abuse he suffered from the churches, physical attacks, verbal attacks, death threats, and music stations literally refusing to play his music and breaking his record while changing their station's entire music format. I'm also a musical historian and write this, not because I am the biggest Elvis Presley fan in the world, but because everything I have said here is simply true. When Elvis went to great lengths, too, to credit black musicians referring to Fats Domino as the King of Rock n Roll, as Elvis was the most kind hearted and least racial person you would ever find. And, I've already corresponded with the authors of this channel and they knew none of the information I have presented here and there is plenty more where that came from.
@anthonyballard9051
@anthonyballard9051 Жыл бұрын
I am a black guy and I'm a long time Elvis fan and I'm damn proud of it, I don't givvadam what some idiots wanna think of him!... RIP Elvis... 👑🎸🎤🎵⭐
@dantzmusic
@dantzmusic 11 ай бұрын
@@daneteman4696 Absolutely! A person's environment and what they see and hear growing up often contributes to their personal musical taste and the style they choose to perform as a musician.
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 9 ай бұрын
You're a good man!!!
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 9 ай бұрын
@divinelightshine I'm damn proud of Elvis and being a longtime fan, too, thanks!
@randallanthony1794
@randallanthony1794 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@humanbeing2420
@humanbeing2420 4 ай бұрын
Maybe hear these guys out before you render judgment?
@saltwell80
@saltwell80 2 жыл бұрын
Iam a 72yr old black man,whoever spu out of their mouth that Elvis is a racist,is so far off base that they're out of the ballpark all together, now i will say that when Elvis started singing black music that's when his career took of like lightning, Elvis use to go on Friday nights to this black church in Memphis , that's where he learned to do all that shakin his hips ,A few yrs back on the David Letterman Show, their was this singer, music producer name Otis Blackwell, he wrote and produced Teddy Bear, Blue swayed shoes,etc, Elvis didn't steal it ,Otis gave him permission ,and Elvis,u can't blame him, HE ALWAYS say that his music in the beginning was black music,white people gave him that title the king of rock n roll, Elvis knows ,if there wasn't black music no Elvis bar none.There was this news reporter in Texas back in the fifties says that Elvis made the statement that all he wanted blacks to do was to buy his music and shine his shoes,that was a lie straight from hell.he wanted to sell a story at Elvis. Exspence ,R I.P my brother.
@robertmorra8603
@robertmorra8603 Жыл бұрын
Otis Blackwell wrote Don't be cruel, All Shook up and Return to sender. Carl Perkins wrote Blue suede shoes and Teddy Bear was written by Kal Mann.
@judysoltow4474
@judysoltow4474 Жыл бұрын
Blue Suede shoes.
@johnnybop64
@johnnybop64 Жыл бұрын
I agree Mr. Saltwell ! I think the 'king of rock' was mostly kernel corncobb's idea and marketing, and Elvis didn't even like the nickname.
@williamsweeney3215
@williamsweeney3215 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnybop64no he said the only King he know was the King of kings Jesus.
@shankleythebest
@shankleythebest 10 ай бұрын
The story you're referring to was started by a magazine called "Sepia", this magazine printed misinformation targeted towards the black community, and was published by white supremacists. The story goes - Elvis during a performance in boston in 1957, said "the only thing black people can do for me, is buy my records and shine my shoes", this was the starting point of the "Elvis is Racist rumour", the only problem was Elvis had never been to Boston much less uttered those words, knowing that Sepia was full of sh*t and in an effort to get to the truth, jet magazine sent two reporters to interview Elvis about the controversy and found the rumour had no basis in reality. But because the rumour had already taken root, even the jet article refuting it had little effect, with people like one hit wonder Mary J Blige stating Elvis is a racist after performing a barely adequate rendition of "Blue Suede Shoes", and Quincy Jones proclaiming "Elvis refused to work with me" and calling Elvis a racist because of it, despite knowing full well that Elvis didn't perform Jazz, which is the style of music that Jones made back in the 60's & 70's.
@stevepomeroy-rockin-pa-realtor
@stevepomeroy-rockin-pa-realtor 2 жыл бұрын
"Well... Yeah" ??????? NO, Elvis was NOT a racist. This video gets a thumbs down for its OUTRIGHT LIES and INSINUATIONS. Carefully woven with some historical facts but then colored with YOUR OPINIONS which do not portray Elvis in a TRUE LIGHT at all. Elvis GENUINELY DETESTED racists and changed the music industry probably more than any other music artist had ever done. But don't take MY WORD for it. Take fellow artist BB KING's (because let's face facts -- HE KNEW ELVIS personally, and you did not.): 'Let me tell you the definitive truth about Elvis Presley and racism', The King of the Blues, B.B. King said in 2010. 'With Elvis, there was not a single drop of racism in that man. And when I say that, believe me I should know'.
@matrix5000100
@matrix5000100 Жыл бұрын
Elvis often said that he loved black culture. I don't know of any other artist from the Elvis era who had so many black artists as friends and black fans. There are also countless photos of Elvis showing him with black artists and all having fun. there are also countless interviews and quotes from black artists who have personally met Elvis and who only have good things to say about Elvis. They are wonderful and beautiful stories. Anyone who says otherwise is not telling the truth.
@dantzmusic
@dantzmusic 11 ай бұрын
@@daneteman4696 *A very astute and honest observation!*
@dianachurchill8560
@dianachurchill8560 2 жыл бұрын
Elvis himself said he didn't want to be called the King. He said there was only one King, Jesus Christ. And he said it anyone was going to be king of rock n roll it should be Fats Domino. It was his fans that insisted on calling him the king. He always gave credit to the writer of the songs on the records.
@dannyanime3468
@dannyanime3468 2 жыл бұрын
But white people do
@lifelongbachelor3651
@lifelongbachelor3651 2 жыл бұрын
how can a fictitious character be king...
@raycarter8070
@raycarter8070 2 жыл бұрын
I totally get what your are saying. My grandmother told me the exact same thing. She felt like he turned his back on the community. So no you guys aren’t wrong. I was around 13 at this time. She did not like what you guys are correctly saying about it. It’s a truth that more folks need to think about. I think it had more to do his record company and media control.
@reyganbriggs6785
@reyganbriggs6785 2 жыл бұрын
@@lifelongbachelor3651 hes only fictitious to people who have no faith.
@lifelongbachelor3651
@lifelongbachelor3651 2 жыл бұрын
@@reyganbriggs6785 no. reality and science tell us so.
@nirvana213xxxz
@nirvana213xxxz 2 жыл бұрын
Elvis was brilliant man. People are always gonna crap on famous people legacies.
@headwhop26
@headwhop26 2 жыл бұрын
We are of the opinion that he could partake in and benefit from a racist system while also being brilliant, talented, and kind
@robertmorra8603
@robertmorra8603 Жыл бұрын
Listen to the late James Brown and Little Richard who said Elvis was the best thing to happen to their music. Elvis's love for music made all music great and raceless. Also, Elvis was more handsome than all other artists black, white or any other race. Therefore, add talent and great looks and you get the complete package.
@Chris-tp8db
@Chris-tp8db Жыл бұрын
@@headwhop26 Every white person in America has benefited from a racist system, so why single out Elvis?
@joannemcclure3546
@joannemcclure3546 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely NO, never ever a racist.
@uchihadabba699
@uchihadabba699 2 жыл бұрын
And you are a high school teacher ? That explains a lot where we’re headed.
@dannad123
@dannad123 Жыл бұрын
I Don't believe that you would even be aware of Arthur Crudup if Elvis hadn't recorded his songs.
@MrAlanfalk73
@MrAlanfalk73 2 жыл бұрын
There is NO yes to that answer, Elvis was loved in the black community. He never uttered a racist word and he sang lots of other material than "black" music. Actually his 2 biggest hits were "I't now or never" which was an old Opera song with new lyric, and "Hound dog" which was written by 2 jewish guys, but totally changed so even the writers almost couldent recognize it !! Elvis dident copy anyone, he combined lots of different styles, and sang so many different styles in different voices , and always in a way that made you feel he meant it. He is in 5 different hall of fames. The way jaloux people try to bring Elvis down is pathetic, For every "advantage" he had, he had at least on disadvantage too. Elvis could have been even bigger if he had had a mannager that would allow him to expand musically, Elvis never performed outside America, was seldom allowd working with other artists/producers, was boycottet by both white and black radiostations .
@neilsoulman
@neilsoulman 2 жыл бұрын
right, Leiben & Stroller wrote hound dog for Big Mama Thorton, but Elvis actually covered the novelty country song that the Bell Boys recorded, the song both lyrics & style are very different then Big Mama's who is singing about a no good dirty man, and Elvis who is singing about a literal dog.
@rockingroyalty2108
@rockingroyalty2108 2 жыл бұрын
@@neilsoulman Plus Lieber and Stroller gave the song to Elvis to record.
@neilsoulman
@neilsoulman 2 жыл бұрын
@@rockingroyalty2108 Actually; Mike Stroller & Jerry Leiber wrote the song as teenages after seeing Big Mama perform and were blown away, it supposedly only took them 15 minutes to write, but Elvis covered the Bellboys version it is completely different from Leiber & Stroller (Big Mamas) version, Even Stroller had mentioned in a few interviews that Elvis version was not big mamas, Presley was familiar with Thornton’s original version of “Hound Dog,” his rendition of the track was based on the 1955 version recorded by Freddie Bell and the Bellboys, according to Stoller, which had a more simplified chord structure and alternate lyrics shifting the song focus to a dog, not a man acting like a “dog” toward a woman.
@neilsoulman
@neilsoulman 2 жыл бұрын
Leiber and Stoller did write many hits for Elvis Presley, including "Love Me" (1956), "Jailhouse Rock" (1957), "Loving You", "Don't", and "King Creole".
@anthd6747
@anthd6747 2 жыл бұрын
I have never heard elvis music in any black neighborhood or cookout ever in my life!..so your wrong..and im in my late 60s..we just didnt like his music...
@donn409
@donn409 2 жыл бұрын
For two college professors you aren't very thorough which makes both of you look very amateurish. Back in the 1970s, ELVIS tried to help Arthur Cruddup by financing a recording session for him. It was not ELVIS' fault that the resulting album did not perform well on the charts and make Mr. Cruddup a household name. The facts are, it didn't make a difference who it was. No one was going to be as big as ELVIS was, black or white. ELVIS also gave back by giving gifts of money, cars, and other items, not just to white people but black people as well. Every year he gave money to 50 Memphis charities as well as countless unnamed others. Not only that. His fan clubs give money and help to people of all races to this day. Does that sound selfish and racist to both of you? Despite ELVIS never writing his own material he still had to work hard at his craft. He was a producer and arranger as well as a singer and musician. Does that sound uncreative and untalented to you? Here is another bit of trivia for you two. Blacks were not the only victims of poverty and slavery. Whites had to endure that injustice as well. Ever heard of indentured servants? Blacks aren't the only ones that had to endure racism either. The Egyptians mistreated and enslaved the Hebrew people for 430 years. Today, around rhe world, in places where blacks are the majority whites are robbed, raped and beaten in revenge for crimes they never committed. Do they deserve that? Your problem is both of you are brainwashed liberals that can't think for yourselves. You hear another liberal say something and take it as the gospel truth. Neither of you sound like true ELVIS fans to me. It's sad that you both are that way. You could do a lot of good but prefer to propagate lies and inuendo about ELVIS and his fans, friends and family.
@stevepomeroy-rockin-pa-realtor
@stevepomeroy-rockin-pa-realtor 2 жыл бұрын
Elvis was NOT A RACIST. Simple as that. You are not "WOKE" because you are outing Elvis for something HE WAS NOT. This video is an attempt to pit Elvis as the poster boy for racism and that is SO FAR AWAY FROM THE TRUTH. Elvis was in fact VERY INVOLVED WITH ENDING RACISM in music and the World. EXHIBIT A: Elvis and BB King would chat about how racist the music business and world was at the time. Here's one of BB's quotes from one of those chats: King raised his finger up as if Elvis was still in front of him, and profoundly declared, "Water from the white fountain don't taste any better than from the black fountain. We just need to share it, that's all. You see, Elvis knew this and I know this". --- The words of BB KING explaining to a reporter that Elvis was NOT A RACIST. Elvis actually GAVE A CRAP, and that's what makes these hit pieces SO UNFAIR and historically untrue.
@jayDee92133
@jayDee92133 2 жыл бұрын
Did he say all that before or after talking about his shoes.
@stevepomeroy-rockin-pa-realtor
@stevepomeroy-rockin-pa-realtor 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayDee92133 Elvis never made the comment you are referring to. Jet Magazine investigated and found the rumor to be false. It was a lie told by a jealous musician who wanted to be where Elvis was. He treated people of color royally. And that’s what his black band mates and his contemporaries stated. Elvis was not a racist.
@jayDee92133
@jayDee92133 2 жыл бұрын
@@dunedin158 Yeah that sounds like the typical Elvis fan... one that consigns racism.
@martyarnold4159
@martyarnold4159 2 жыл бұрын
I love your comment, except for 1 person you should omit, Ray Charles was 1 of the only black artists that didn't support Elvis and is most likely the one that started the hideous lie that Elvis was racist. There is a video of an interview he did about Elvis, his jealousy & resentment of Elvis's success are pretty obvious. I lost some admiration for him, petty doesn't look well on anyone, even Ray Charles, I still regard him a little higher than Jerry Lee but not a whole lot. People can say what they want about Elvis but no one can honestly deny that he was Always polite & gracious when speaking in public. He obviously believed in the rule that says "If you can't say anything nice about someone then don't say anything" because he NEVER said anything negative about anyone publicly and kept his opinions to himself! How unfortunate that good manners are a thing of the past because I for one miss them!
@PapeySapote
@PapeySapote Жыл бұрын
@@jayDee92133he never said that 😊
@dilsherali3594
@dilsherali3594 2 жыл бұрын
Talking as a " critical friend", I think most of the studied comments here nullify the author's rather myopic and simplistic evaluation. The record biz by definition is exploitative. Dont hang that on Elvis...wrong target. And he was exploited more than all of them together by Parker and RCA. Note also Black musicians were being even more exploited by their Black managers and Black record companies. It was the Wild West back then. And Chuck D has, in print and on film, walked back his Elvis line in Fight the Power. Sadly, the damage had been done, and people cant go beyond that. Quicey Jones' idiotic, ignorant comment is a bare faced proven lie. Elvis had never met Otis Blackwell so that supposed episode is bull. Tut Tut, Quincey! The more general point is: all music is appropriated in one way or another. What made Elvis original was his intinsic natural ability to synthesize so many disparate, vernacular forms into a new whole. The guy was an absorber and democratizer. Whether he knew it or not.
@theuntouchabletee4470
@theuntouchabletee4470 2 жыл бұрын
I'm black and from Memphis and I do not think Elvis was a racist my mom lived in Whitehaven in the 70s she graduated from Whitehaven High she told me he would ride his motorcycle around and would stop and talk to the kids he would tell them to come visit him at his house anytime
@RichieRich64
@RichieRich64 2 жыл бұрын
Don't waste your breath, these two Chode eating white breads know racism better than anyone. They're just Albert Goldman wannabes. He trashes beloved stars in his books all the time.
@cronggamer3067
@cronggamer3067 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who watched the whole video, here are my thoughts: I feel a lot of the criticisms lie on the music industry. While it's true Elvis essentially benefited from the way it was, it's also important to remember how he also helped change it. Elvis helped introduce black music to white America, as opposed to contemporaries like Pat Boone who tried to suppress and replace it. As Little Richard said, "He was an integrator, Elvis was a blessing. They wouldn't let black music through. He opened the door for black music." The Abraham Lincoln comparison is odd because you're comparing a president to a performer. But also saying Elvis only helped keep up "racist structures" is just bizarre and dishonest. A lot of the country music elite couldn't stand Elvis because he helped breakdown racial boundaries in the music industry at the time. And how you defined racism in 9:30 is the literal definition of a racist person. While it sucks great artists like Arthur Crudup and Junior Parker are relegated to "people who influenced Elvis", we wouldn't even know these artists if it wasn't for Elvis. Granted it sucks how they only became widely recognized when a white artist credits them, but I think it's better than not recognizing them at all. And it sucks that Arthur was poor throughout his whole life, but I don't think you should blame Elvis for him getting screwed over by record labels. It's something that's happened to most every single artist in the industry, including white artists. It feels like when you guys talk about the racial injustice of the 50s, you lay the blame squarely on Elvis and nothing else. While it'd be great if Elvis financially supported his heroes, you can't just rely on one guy to fix all the issues of America - no matter how famous he is. Saying "Elvis is racist because he succeeded off a racist system" is very disingenuous to me. To me, it's no different than saying every white suburban family in America is racist because they're more well off than minorities. I think the "Elvis racist" discussion should be about the music industry in general rather than just being focused on one artist. Especially seeing how it's focused on someone who respected and credited his idols, and was very respectful of the African American community. The whole discussion is something that plagues Elvis' reputation today, even though other white bands & artists did the exact same thing and get off scot free. As for the true king of rock & roll, that honor goes to Little Richard in my opinion. He was an amazing stage presence and his music embodied the crazy rock & roll energy. While I'm mixed on Elvis' music career as a whole, I think some of his stuff was quite daring for him. He changed his sound throughout his career, and did a large amount of different genres. I do enjoy Chuck, but he mainly just stuck to his own niche while never really going outside of it. He's kinda like the Ramones or AC/DC in that way. I'm not saying Elvis is superior to Chuck because of that, but I think saying later Elvis sucked because it's "not rock & roll" is a dumb argument. It's like hating Wings because it doesn't sound like The Beatles. My comment's a bit all over the place, but they're my honest thoughts of the video. I agree with a lot of the points you guys are making, but I feel some are misguided. I hope you read this comment instead of dismissing it, and maybe reply back. I feel this video's claims should be debated over, especially how it feels like you guys ignored Elvis' role of helping integrating races in music. And yeah, there's going to be people who say "ELVIS IS THE KING. NO ONE'S GREATER," but stupid people will always be stupid. It's best not to take what they say seriously.
@headwhop26
@headwhop26 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great comment! I think any time you have a system based on plunder, things will be problematic. You're right that we could have made similar videos about Zeppelin and any number of artists. Little Richard is a great pick, and I think would have been Lemmy's pick as well
@cronggamer3067
@cronggamer3067 2 жыл бұрын
@@headwhop26 I'm glad you responded. Plundering is definitely an unfortunate thing to happen, but I think the blame should be brought on the industry as a whole. Many other notable artists Arthur Crudup, from CCR to Elton John, but he still never received any royalties. I think that alone is telling that we shouldn't hold Elvis accountable for this. And if we were to, every other white artist who took influence from less successful African Americans would also need to be held accountable. Plundering is a serious issue of American culture, but Elvis shouldn't be the only example in terms of music. However, it seems like he's the only one brought up when it comes to white artists "stealing" from black artists. And a lot of the time I talk about Elvis, whether online or IRL, there's usually a follow up of "he stole from black people." Like it's the only thing he's notable for. Give my boy a break for once.
@headwhop26
@headwhop26 2 жыл бұрын
@@cronggamer3067 I think one reason this conversation around Elvis gets centered this way is his early death. We can have the conversation around Jimmy Page stealing from Willie Dixon, but those lawsuits have all played out. If Elvis lives past 77, I imagine something like that plays out as well. If you’ve ever been to Graceland, the entire complex almost feels like haigography- everything is about Elvis and his parents. EVERYTHING. When we visited they had one exhibit about Sam Phillips, and that was it. Scotty, Bill, DJ, James Burton, Dewey Phillips, Dr Nick, etc almost didn’t exist at Graceland. In our opinion, Elvis, as great as he was, had a lot of help, but we focus so exclusively on the man himself. As much as I love Elvis, the conversation around him has a lot of room to grow
@cronggamer3067
@cronggamer3067 2 жыл бұрын
@@headwhop26 Yeah... that's definitely an issue with Graceland. They should definitely have more focus on other people who made Elvis' music so great. That's the same issue with most of the Elvis fandom, although I'd argue most music fandoms are pretty close minded when it comes to recognizing other people. I think some of this is a consequence of Elvis not really being popular with people today. He's still a household name, but no one really seems to go in deep with him. I'm 21, and you guys seem to be in your 30s-40s. Doesn't seem like there's many people below the age of 60 who're really into Elvis. And even then, most Elvis fans chose to ignore his influences and such. Elvis has become this black and white figure, where you consider him the all mighty king or a racist thief. That's definitely hyperbolic, but it feels like only those two camps exist when discussing Elvis. I'm a longtime Elvis fan, but it's important to recognize the people who influenced him as well as the people who helped make his music so timeless. But I think that's the case for every artist and band. If you're a fan of it, try learning more about it and become more educated about them. Instead of thinking that artist is #1 and nothing else influenced them.
@headwhop26
@headwhop26 2 жыл бұрын
@AJ Gentile the problem is not the house, it’s the 250,000 square foot glorified gift shop across the street
@mattbowen4350
@mattbowen4350 2 жыл бұрын
You've proven a fact that the system was racist. But, much like Chuck D you're making Elvis the fall guy. And while you explained Elvis was not " A Racist" but, benefited from a racist society, most people don't acknowledge those nuances and thus continue to perpetuate the idea Elvis was "A Racist". I get what you're trying to say (that's why I watched the whole video) I just think you missed the mark on who is to blame for unpaid royalties and lack of credit. Which I believe to be the likes of Sam Phillips & The Col. as well as RCA who would have been responsible for negotiating that type of thing. Not Elvis.
@jamiekelley5856
@jamiekelley5856 2 жыл бұрын
This. Trying to lay the system's racism at Elvis's feet shows a lack of understanding that's dangerous. Too many people (even fans) also forget that Elvis was so scary to large parts of white society in the 50's because they could tell that Elvis's integrated influences were natural (as in not a business decision by him). Churches forbade congregations and kids to go see Elvis concerts, etc. Elvis may not have been on the front lines of any marches and that's a shame, but (especially for the time) he was absolutely not a racist. Also, them hating on "Unchained Melody" - one of the most heartfelt songs he performed since "If I Can Dream" - is nuts.
@dandydabberdude
@dandydabberdude 2 жыл бұрын
Elvis multiple times said that he didn’t deserve the name ‘the king of rock and roll’ because black performers were much better than him.
@uchihadabba699
@uchihadabba699 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamiekelley5856 I like 👍
@raycarter8070
@raycarter8070 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. My grandparents were his neighbors growing. in fact through our records, his family was quite a bit ahead of their time with race relations. i was completely surprised!
@Sunsets-nr6lv
@Sunsets-nr6lv 2 жыл бұрын
He championed the black community, he cried when mlk died. He was anti-racist
@martinhenderson923
@martinhenderson923 2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot to digest here and I don't have the time to do the deep dive that it deserves, but there are others who have commented that make the points just fine. I want to tackle the question, "Why is Elvis the king of rock and roll?" The answer is this: Elvis was the tide that lifted all boats. Chuck Berry didn't do that. That's why Elvis is the king. In the late 1950s, the "music kingdom" or "landscape" was his; Elvis authored ridiculous success and adulation, and opened the door for someone like Little Richard to make more money and a career that he otherwise would not have made; this is an exaggeration, but 50 percent of something is better than 100 percent of nothing, and that's meaningful for black artists. It's unfortunate it didn't work out for Crudup (and that's more a reflection on the industry than Elvis), but that's not Elvis' fault or responsibility. Elvis made it possible for Fats Domino and Little Richard and Chuck Berry and other "race music" performers to go through the door. Without Elvis, they might not have ever entered into the living rooms of white America. As well, Elvis was the king in part because he was first to create that level of popularity and fanaticism (and I'm not forgetting about Frank Sinatra), that level of stress and expectation, that level of "image" at such a high level that no singular performer could relate directly to it until Michael Jackson's moonwalk. That level of celebrity is rare, and that's what makes people special. Elvis had the total package; talent, looks, charisma, presence. As part of that, let me make a distinction: Being the "best" is not the same as being the "greatest." I think, subjectively, Elvis is the best; that's my opinion. However, objectively, it's hard to argue that Elvis wasn't the greatest. That's king-worthy. As an aside to the "Why is Elvis the king" question, I'd like to point out that there's a disconnect when you blame Elvis for plundering Arthur Crudup (a black artist) when on the B-side you don't blame Elvis for plundering Bill Monroe (a white artist). As a performer, Elvis left everyone in the dust. He covered songs, just like all performers of the day. He was a great singer and interpreter, and he was different. What was part of the appeal of Lady Gaga? She was different. What was the appeal of MJ? At the time of the moonwalk, he was different? What was the appeal of Elton John? He was different. All were talented, but all were different -- they didn't fit the mold. The reality, in the '50s, is that Elvis did benefit from being white -- because America was more white than black. Today, America is much more homogeneous. But Elvis was different. The thing that bothers me about the "Elvis cultural appropriation" argument is that it never accuses the Beatles, or the Rolling Stones, or anyone else who was influenced by race music. Elvis is the scapegoat. Elvis didn't rip off Big Mama Thornton -- Leiber and Stoller, two Jewish guys in their 30s, told her how to sing the song. Bottom line is this. Elvis wasn't racist. Elvis was the king of rock 'n' roll.
@scouseronthewirral
@scouseronthewirral 2 жыл бұрын
Oh look another millennial who wasn’t even around in the 50s telling people how it was…typical
@headwhop26
@headwhop26 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve listed our sources in the description, but I also teach a rock n roll history class, so we’re qualified. Thanks for the watch!
@MarkRogersVOCFB
@MarkRogersVOCFB Жыл бұрын
"Almost all of Elvis' early hits were written by black artists." FALSE. Heartbreak Hotel, Blue Suede Shoes, Love Me, Love Me Tender, Hound Dog, Jailhouse Rock...I could go on.
@Cliche_Guevara
@Cliche_Guevara 11 күн бұрын
Literally none of those songs were written by Elvis Presley.
@neilsoulman
@neilsoulman 2 жыл бұрын
While I see you put a lot of work into your presentation I must disagree with you on your inference. The conventional definition of a racist is power plus prejudice. Elvis did not have the power ( others like Parker pulled the strings) and was not by word, deed or the accounts of others prejudiced. "Little Richard," a true king of rock along with others like Berry, Ike Turner, Bo Diddley, Louis Jordan, etc.. Richard is quoted as calling Elvis the ambassador of Rock, the door opener. Elvis opened up a door to the mainstream that was closed until Elvis and also DJ'S like Alan Freed & Porky Cheswick. brought the music to new and larger audiences. Elvis music covers of the early Jump, blues & black Gospel were in homage to the artists music and style he loved, "Mahalia, Sis Rosetta Thorpe, Big Joe Turner, BB King. On "Arthur Cruddup" other artists were covering songs before Elvis entered the picture such as Brownie McGee, Elmore James, & BB King, and Cruddup did not recieve royalties from these artists either, it was the practice and the industry then, in fact Elvis was himself cheated from royalties, his manager Tom Parker got half of everything including bogus song writing credits, but in the mid 50's, it was actually Cruddup who was called the father of rock not Elvis, because Elvis had covered 3 of his songs, not just "that's right mama." Furthermore; Melrose music. held the copyright for "that's alright mama" not Sun and in the version Elvis performed the lyrics were actually changed from Cruddups version. It is believed that Cruddup actually borrowed lyrics for thats alright from an earlier blues song written in the 1920's by pioneering bluesman "Blind lemon Jefferson" in a song called 'black snake moan."
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube 2 жыл бұрын
Good thoughts, thanks for the comment!
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but Elvis Presley made himself and BB King, who should know, said as much. So did Rufus Thomas and they were both Memphians and said 'That's All Right Mamma' was like nothing anyone had done or heard before. When, too, 'That's Alright Mamma' is not the song that catapulted Elvis to stratospheric success, as that didn't happen until the white written 'Heartbreak Hotel' two years later. Moreover, the great Jackie Wilson also said (and all the men referenced are black of course) that black performers took more from Elvis than he ever took from them, or a quote very, very similar to that, as I paraphrased. While Elvis, also, after Wilson had a heart attack, later, paid for his nursing home bills until his death. And this is a racist? Big Mamma Thornton? Her song Hound Dog was written by two white Jewish men. The same white gentlemen who took the song to Elvis to record and Elvis made a massive hit of it. When, too, Elvis amalgamated black music, white country & influences from every direction into what he did. When we know, too, that the black music referred to also took from white folk music, as ALL MUSIC can be found to have influences from elsewhere. Elvis, too - before 1954 - even used to go into Sun and actually helped the Prisonaires lead singer, who also stuttered like Elvis, get through that and the Prisonaires were eventually able to record the great song 'Walking in the Rain' due to Elvis helping the lead singer, Johnny Bragg, mouth the words without stuttering. While this whole absurd channel says Elvis was a racist when he also went to see Bragg and the group, in prison, to offer them money for lawyers and other needs, as well. When, at this time, especially in the deep south as they were, that in and of itself could have killed a white person's career. The sneer, the presentation of the music, the hair, the unabandoned dancing style was all original, as Elvis admitted he couldn't dance, but just did what came naturally to him. And, the bottom line is, what made Elvis Presley such a big star, is again as BB King said, he had it all. He was tall; he was handsome; Johnny Cash called him the best rhythm guitarist he ever saw; and he absolutely had a tremendous voice, far better than Chuck Berry's or Little Richard's or Carl Perkins, or pretty much anyone. And it's his voice being so incredible, and because he sang so many genres of music so incredibly well, that made him the greatest selling solo artist in music history and it's not even close. Now, did Elvis break through FIRST, because he was white. I believe so, but that only opened up the doors to great black music to the general public who hadn't heard it before then. While Elvis went through hell and almost quit, such was the abuse he suffered from the churches, physical attacks, verbal attacks, death threats, and music stations literally refusing to play his music and breaking his record while changing their station's entire music format. I'm also a musical historian and write this, not because I am the biggest Elvis Presley fan in the world, but because everything I have said here is simply true. When Elvis went to great lengths, too, to credit black musicians referring to Fats Domino as the King of Rock n Roll, as Elvis was the most kind hearted and least racial person you would ever find. And, I've already corresponded with the authors of this channel and they knew none of the information I have presented here and there is plenty more where that came from.
@shelbygregory4940
@shelbygregory4940 2 жыл бұрын
Why do people assume things about someone they don’t even know. How about we stop the name calling when they are not around to defend themselves anymore.
@dantzmusic
@dantzmusic 11 ай бұрын
@shelbygregory4940 *Absolutely! Sadly, it just shows the power of lying and* *slanderous tongues.*
@rileecadwallader211
@rileecadwallader211 2 жыл бұрын
Elvis took white country music and black rhythm and blues and put the styles together. Some lyrics was rhythm and blues and some was country. He did not steal the sounds he changed the sounds and tried to merge the two cultures. He didn’t steal any fame or get rich off anything. The sound was different. It was a different kind of music
@dannyanime3468
@dannyanime3468 2 жыл бұрын
Revisionist history
@ertfgghhhh
@ertfgghhhh Жыл бұрын
Country is blues with white faces and voices....
@marrymemelafoundation1685
@marrymemelafoundation1685 Жыл бұрын
how did Elvis combine different musical styles when he NEVER wrote any music in his entire life?
@forestjohnson7474
@forestjohnson7474 2 ай бұрын
You're right, he just sung it.
@johnnyscoolstuff8427
@johnnyscoolstuff8427 2 жыл бұрын
Elvis didn’t want the title of the king because he knew better, but given the backdrop of the era Elvis was the messenger because he had the goods to deliver a music that may have not seen the light of day in mainstream America, which eventually brought to the fore The real progenitors of rock ‘n’ roll.
@maryannemelenka9250
@maryannemelenka9250 11 ай бұрын
That title put heavy pressure on him too. Too please his fans and admiration of his peers. That can do a lot pyscological y to someone, he even said” image is one thing, humanb being another, it’s hard to live up to an image “ no truer words were said from the man himself!!
@lumedeon8471
@lumedeon8471 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s another take: Elvis was simply being true to who he was by singing the music he grew up listening to. And it happened to pay off for him. That “race music” wasn’t popular. Singing it was more of a risk for him than anything. However he had the looks, charisma and star power to get people to buy whatever he was selling. He took black music mainstream which created the new system by which black people started to become rich from making it. Until Elvis it was marginalized juke joint music.
@randallanthony1794
@randallanthony1794 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@tonyarenee531
@tonyarenee531 2 жыл бұрын
You took Binder's words out of context ... BINDER'S WORDS: ---- There was also a gospel sequence, reflecting Elvis’ love of that genre. The show’s closing number, “If I Can Dream,” also had a gospel feel in its plea for brotherhood at the end of a very turbulent year in America. Over Parker’s objections, Steve had enlisted the show’s choral director, W. Earl Brown, to write a song that spelled out “what Elvis stands for, what his philosophy is.” “Earl may have written, ‘If I Can Dream,’” says Steve, “but all he did was interpret what we heard back from Elvis while working with Elvis. Those lyrics are what came out of Elvis’ mouth.” But the special’s most compelling performances came about purely by chance. Elvis had moved into the Burbank studios during production, and Steve was entranced watching him play guitar in his dressing room after the day’s work was done, entertaining his friends. He immediately wanted to put in a similar improvisational sequence in the show, and eventually got Parker’s grudging approval. It was these performances that would make the show iconic. Elvis, attired in a form-fitting black leather suit, never looked better. He taped two sets on June 27, sitting among friends including his original sidemen from the 1950s, guitarist Scotty Moore and drummer DJ Fontana, and two more formal sets on June 29, standing up this time, backed by a band and orchestra. There were a few other hiccups (Parker insisted a rough version of “Blue Christmas” from the second June 27 show be included, so there would be at least one holiday number, and a brothel scene in the “fantasy Elvis” sequence was cut). But Elvis was thrilled by final show, telling his director, “Steve, I’ll never sing a song again that I don’t believe in, I’ll never make a movie again that I don’t believe in.” Straight-talking as always, Steve was openly skeptical, telling him, “I hear you Elvis, but I’m not sure you’ll be strong enough when the time comes.” “Elvis rediscovered himself on that special,” Steve says today. “He had lost confidence, and probably thought, ‘I wouldn’t be as successful as I am without the Colonel and without RCA’s publicity machine.’ Then he started to realize, especially during the improv shows, ‘Hey, it’s not the Colonel, it’s not the RCA publicity machine-I’m really that special, that talented.” Yet Steve also feels Elvis was ultimately held back by “his naïve sense of loyalty and not realizing he’d paid the Colonel off years before I ever got to him. And he just couldn’t break that pattern. So he just followed directions. I think the reason he never challenged anybody, or said ‘I don’t want to sing that song’ or ‘I don’t want to do this’ was strictly what he had been taught from the time he met the Colonel, and whatever pact they had between them. “The tragedy is, I knew Elvis was chomping to go all over the world and meet his fans. What he told me at the end was the true Elvis, but he never was strong enough to follow his own direction. And it was really a tragedy. I don’t think he died of drugs; I think he died of boredom, being stuck in Las Vegas while the Colonel gambled away all of his money.” Despite being given Elvis’ private number, and going to see two of his shows in Las Vegas, Steve was never able to speak with him again. Steve’s original 90-minute edit of the show was cut for the hour-long broadcast. After Elvis’ death, the 90-minute edit was mistakenly aired as part of a television tribute, and numerous other edits of the show have since been released, or aired on television. In 2004, the ’68 version (complete with the brothel sequence) was released in a deluxe edition DVD set, followed by a 94-minute “special edition” edit in 2006. Steve says the 2006 edit, which was shown in theaters this past summer, is “very close” to his original edit. “Elvis will always rank as very, very special to me,” says Steve. “When I saw it this past summer, I looked at the screen and said, ‘Did I do that?’ I look at it as a window of time for me. I don’t care about what happened before, I don’t really care what happened after. I just know I had an incredible time working with him and knowing him.”
@camillabarclay4049
@camillabarclay4049 Жыл бұрын
Only on para three but binder Wanted to PUT A CAMERA inside the elbis playing in his dressing room. Parker refused point blamk. That wldve been even better. Parker should not have had the say so in what he did becuase he was not an artist.
@sofiabuynisku3564
@sofiabuynisku3564 11 ай бұрын
I was ten when I first heard Elvis on the radio. I didn't care if he was white; but later, I grew to love him because he loved Black music and would not hesitate to have Back people around him in spite of what the rules on race relations were. People who say he was a ra ist didn't read newspapers and magazines, inevitably, when he was starting out. He was demonized for not being a racist! He sang "race" music because he loved it, would aa racist love it.
@elshaddaisson5048
@elshaddaisson5048 Жыл бұрын
Remember the white songwriter Cy Coben? He wrote a song titled 'I Wanna Play House With You' that was recorded by Eddy Arnold back in 1951 and it became a #1 hit on the country charts. A black blues musician by the name of Arthur Gunter heard the song and it got his creative juices flowing and inspired him to write 'Baby Let's Play House' years later. Elvis recorded 'Baby Let's Play House' during his Sun days. Elvis gave it his own rockabilly spin, he dropped one of Gunter's lyrics and added some of his own. He made it quite a different sounding song. He probably could have taken a songwriting credit for it, but he didn't. Sole credit was given to Arthur Gunter. But back to Cy Coben. Very few people probably recognize his name. That's because people associate a song with the singer and so, if it is remembered at all, 'I Wanna Play House With You' is most likely remembered as an Eddy Arnold song. White songwriters are largely forgotten. Black songwriters are largely forgotten. Who do you associate 'Strange Fruit' with? That's easy. That's a Billie Holliday song, right? Nobody remembers the white songwriter. How about 'Unforgettable' and 'Mona Lisa' ? Those are Nat King Cole songs, right? Nobody remembers the white songwriters who wrote those songs. 'What A Wonderful World' is a Louis Armstrong song, right? 'Georgia' is a Ray Charles song, right? Nobody remembers the white songwriters. You get the picture, right? Likewise, Elvis is better remembered than the black songwriters whose music he recorded and he's better remembered than the white songwriters whose music he recorded. Same as with any singer. It seems as if these days the white songwriters whose music Elvis recorded are more forgotten than the black songwriters. Because when I hear statements like "Elvis built his career off the music of black songwriters" that's leaving out a whole lot of people. Let's not forget that during the Sun days that the songs Elvis recorded were 50% black composed and 50% white composed and let's also not forget that during his RCA years... the years that made him a superstar... the great majority were composed by white songwriters. A fact that is reflected in his #1 hits. These are the songs that made his career.
@Chris-tp8db
@Chris-tp8db Жыл бұрын
Great post!! You have a better understanding of what went on than the guy in the video.
@shellyray6981
@shellyray6981 Жыл бұрын
Sad when people open their mouths without doing adequate research. Thank you for writing this as I knew these facts too, but now I don't have to post.
@colv2059
@colv2059 Жыл бұрын
If the society Elvis came from was racist then why are you calling Elvis racist it’s in the title. You need to think about what you say because that’s like saying Joe Johnson is racist because he’s from a town with racist people. Remember think.
@sarahgordino6695
@sarahgordino6695 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Black Elvis fan here. I agree with most of what you all said. And I was raised always 100% understanding that Chuck Berry was the true King of Rock N Roll. His death a few years back was heartbreakingly under reported. Anyway, I just wanted to add that you are missing one massive pillar in Elvis’ favour. No, he wasn’t a racist, and yes he profited from an anti-black music institution without having given back monetarily to the black artists from which he plundered… but…what’s missing is the fact that Elvis did in fact kick down the door for black musicians to have varying levels of commercial cross-over success into white america. Most black musicians of the time do credit him in providing legitimacy to their records and genre and have said that they would not have reached the audiences that they were able to post-Elvis had he not begun integrating airwaves. So I do believe that is quite significant.
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has professionally written on the life of Elvis Presley, I honestly don't know how you could find this video to be great as it absolutely slanders a man? A man who represented nothing but love and did many things for blacks and humanity, in general. In fact, every black musician who personally knew Elvis, totally loved him. Elvis' best friend growing up was a black gentleman named Sam Bell and the entire black community of Shake Rag, which was about a mile south of Sam's grandfather's home, loved him. As he was literally the only white child that would go there and they loved him because he treated them with nothing but deference and heartfelt respect. Elvis' whole group of childhood friends were black, as well, and he viewed himself as no different than them. In fact, when he and same would go to the movies, Elvis would climb into the black section so as to allow him and Sam to sit together. Or, he would help Sam come into the white section, as he saw no distinction with race. While this whole notion that he 'stole' black's music is actually ridiculous. As he certainly abided by all legal contracts and in regard to his rendition of Crudup's, 'That's Alright', BB King and Rufus Thomas have both talked extensively on it, saying that the whole sound and performance was like something that had never been heard before, which is precisely why Elvis later became so big. King also says quite directly that they got it quite right when they called him 'King,' so obviously it didn't just come from whites. Elvis, of course, was always very honest about his influences and even pointed out Fats Domino as the King of Rock and Roll. And Elvis certainly didn't invent Rock N Roll (as the first rock record was probably Ike Turner's 'Rocket 88'", but what he did do is soak up all the sounds of the Mississippi Delta and amalgamate them, naturally, in a way no one else had ever really heard. Because Elvis obviously derived his soulful side from the blues, but his sound also incorporated country music and both white and black southern gospel which gave America something unique they had never heard before. Then we hear people say he stole from Big Mama Thornton who had a fairly good hit with 'Hound Dog' prior to Elvis. But 'Hound Dog' was actually pitched to Elvis by the two white Jewish men wrote the song, Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller, and as we know, that record went on to sell many, many millions. Also, Elvis' version of 'Hound Dog' was nothing like Big Mama Thornton's. And I personally like her version of the song much better, but people obviously must make this an issue simply because Elvis had more success with the song. A song he didn't even really care for. It wasn't easy for Elvis to keep on pursuing his music career after 1954, either, because the racist whites of the community condemned him; preachers condemned him; city officials barred him from performing; and radio stations even boycotted his songs due to his singing race music and being in bed with the negro, as it was said. In fact, radio stations changed there whole type of programming to get rid of Elvis' music in an attempt, to keep it, and other black music from catching on. He also had innumerable death threats against him from ignorant, racist whites, and was physically attacked many times in those early years. However, the fact that he kept pushing forward helped open the doors for many other great black artists to step through. Prior to Elvis making it big at Sun Records, he also volunteered to help a black group, the Prisonaires, cut their biggest hit, Walkin' In the Rain.' As Elvis had a slight stutter and the lead singer of the Prisonaires even worse. However, after spending time with lead singer, Johnny Bragg, Elvis sat and mouthed the words to Johnny as the master cut was done. Hardly a racist, while he also visited the group, in prison, to offer assistance with lawyers, etc. This being something no white person would do, who wanted to maintain his career during those times. And who spent the longest time crying and whaling, as he sat next to Elvis' casket for hour upon hour, never wanting to leave his friend's side? James Brown. Hence, James Brown would hardly do that if Elvis were even remotely racist. This is all so incredibly wrong, but unfortunately because of Ray Charles and Quincy Jones, etc., people obviousy who didn't know Elvis and were clearly jealous to an extent, have told outright lies about Elvis being racist. At least with Jones, that is more than true, as he has told and continues to tell stories that are literally impossible to have happened because you can see that Elvis and/or others he claims were there at some so-called racist event weren't or never even met. As Elvis never met his famed songwriter Otis Blackwell, but Jones tells a racist story about the time he saw Blackwell with Elvis. A hard thing to do given they never met as Blackwell has made quite clear. Moreover, Blackwell - and many other black songwriters - made millions upon millions writing for Elvis. Elvis was also told, when planning a very lucrative set of concert dates at the Houston Astrodome, that he could 'leave the black girls home' and said, "Ok, but I won't be coming either," which quickly turned them around. Then, finally when they did arrive,so as to even further drive his point him as he was livid, he made sure to hire a beautiful blonde white girl to drive all of his black singers all throughout the infield to show they were the stars of his show and would be afforded ultimate respect. When I could go on, chapter and verse forever, with totally factual stories, but I would hope you get the point. Also, it's highly ironic, but the singer who was also conned out of most money in his life, was Elvis Presley. Also, one can even look up newspaper records from the mid-60s that showed Elvis decked a white man for using the 'N-word' in his presence.
@shellyray6981
@shellyray6981 Жыл бұрын
IT IS ABSOLUTELY QUITE SIGNIFICANT AND SOMETHING THAT DID NOT COME FROM A COWARD.
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but Elvis Presley made himself and BB King, who should know, said as much. So did Rufus Thomas and they were both Memphians and said 'That's All Right Mamma' was like nothing anyone had done or heard before. When, too, 'That's Alright Mamma' is not the song that catapulted Elvis to stratospheric success, as that didn't happen until the white written 'Heartbreak Hotel' two years later. Moreover, the great Jackie Wilson also said (and all the men referenced are black of course) that black performers took more from Elvis than he ever took from them, or a quote very, very similar to that, as I paraphrased. While Elvis, also, after Wilson had a heart attack, later, paid for his nursing home bills until his death. And this is a racist? Big Mamma Thornton? Her song Hound Dog was written by two white Jewish men. The same white gentlemen who took the song to Elvis to record and Elvis made a massive hit of it. When, too, Elvis amalgamated black music, white country & influences from every direction into what he did. When we know, too, that the black music referred to also took from white folk music, as ALL MUSIC can be found to have influences from elsewhere. Elvis, too - before 1954 - even used to go into Sun and actually helped the Prisonaires lead singer, who also stuttered like Elvis, get through that and the Prisonaires were eventually able to record the great song 'Walking in the Rain' due to Elvis helping the lead singer, Johnny Bragg, mouth the words without stuttering. While this whole absurd channel says Elvis was a racist when he also went to see Bragg and the group, in prison, to offer them money for lawyers and other needs, as well. When, at this time, especially in the deep south as they were, that in and of itself could have killed a white person's career. The sneer, the presentation of the music, the hair, the unabandoned dancing style was all original, as Elvis admitted he couldn't dance, but just did what came naturally to him. And, the bottom line is, what made Elvis Presley such a big star, is again as BB King said, he had it all. He was tall; he was handsome; Johnny Cash called him the best rhythm guitarist he ever saw; and he absolutely had a tremendous voice, far better than Chuck Berry's or Little Richard's or Carl Perkins, or pretty much anyone. And it's his voice being so incredible, and because he sang so many genres of music so incredibly well, that made him the greatest selling solo artist in music history and it's not even close. Now, did Elvis break through FIRST, because he was white. I believe so, but that only opened up the doors to great black music to the general public who hadn't heard it before then. While Elvis went through hell and almost quit, such was the abuse he suffered from the churches, physical attacks, verbal attacks, death threats, and music stations literally refusing to play his music and breaking his record while changing their station's entire music format. I'm also a musical historian and write this, not because I am the biggest Elvis Presley fan in the world, but because everything I have said here is simply true. When Elvis went to great lengths, too, to credit black musicians referring to Fats Domino as the King of Rock n Roll, as Elvis was the most kind hearted and least racial person you would ever find. And, I've already corresponded with the authors of this channel and they knew none of the information I have presented here and there is plenty more where that came from.
@Cobbido
@Cobbido 7 ай бұрын
Who did he plunder exactly?
@coolerking7427
@coolerking7427 2 жыл бұрын
People are just over analyzing this too much. Elvis was and never was a racist. In fact groups in the blue eyed soul areas like the Righteous Brothers helped push black music too in a good way. The Righteous Brothers got flack in supporting black artists.
@raycarter8070
@raycarter8070 2 жыл бұрын
His family did a lot for the black families of their town. i was surprised as well. We've been contacted by a small publisher but we plan on staying private for now!
@trishf3576
@trishf3576 2 жыл бұрын
He broke down barriers when segregation was everywhere including in music charts. I will listen to those artists who actually knew him such as BB King. I don't think it was Elvis's fault that the music industry was innately racist. It was not his fault that people bought his records. Talk about scapegoating Elvis. He was not some rich, white kid from from LA who decided to copy black artists. He lived among black people and their music. I can see what you are trying to do but this is such a wide issue and is not fair to hang this on him.
@dannyanime3468
@dannyanime3468 2 жыл бұрын
Because he was white
@christineoneal666
@christineoneal666 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannyanime3468 He actually had native American blood in him. Besides that, just be because he was white doesn't make him racist. You sure are. Stop judging people by skin color. 🙄
@pushnook
@pushnook 2 жыл бұрын
Fighting Racism Elvis demonstrated his desire for racial reconciliation in the musicians he chose, and in the treatment they received. When he made his first appearance in texas at the Astrodome, according to Myrna Smith, Elvis was told, 'Well, you can leave the black girls home. You don't have to bring them'. Myna Smith: Elvis responded with, 'Well if they don't come, I don't come'. But he was really upset about it. There was one person in particular who had sent the message. So when we got there, we were greeted by this little blonde in a convertible and she had to drive us around and she was his daughter. So Elvis always made sure he got even. I'm sure he said, 'And I want your daughter to drive them'
@MarkRogersVOCFB
@MarkRogersVOCFB 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck Berry: “Describe Elvis? The greatest whoever was, is or ever will be.”
@MIKELIN8
@MIKELIN8 Жыл бұрын
Col. Parker was a leech. I know he helped bring Elvis to the forefront in the 50s, but that could have happened without him...Elvis' talent was that persuasive. After his Army stint, the Colonel ran Elvis into the ground for his own gain. You fellas should also note that Elvis didn't consider himself the King. During one of his runs at The International Hotel, he noted that "the real King of Rock and Roll" was in his audience...Fats Domino.
@Chris-tp8db
@Chris-tp8db Жыл бұрын
I don’t think crudup would be remembered even if Elvis never existed. His last charted single was in 1945, 9 years before Elvis made his first record.
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 2 жыл бұрын
(2) But Elvis also went further than that as he defended black artists, too, when he had radio stations refusing to play his music; town mayors barring him from performing; sheriff's filming his shows looking for a reason to lock him up and death threats for singing and performing the 'devil's music,' or 'N' music as it was also ridiculously called. So, you're wrong again, just like my namesake, Steven Tyler. And what do you say about BB King when he calls 'Elvis the King,' in every way, shape and form. Look it up. Was BB King part of a white conspiracy or was he just a great blues guitarist giving his honest opinion? Because he said Elvis had it all and was clearly named right when called the King and BB King new him personally. And are you trying to tell us that James Brown, in August of 1977, who spent more time than anyone camped out beside Elvis' coffin, did so because the man he knew and loved so well was a racist? So let me ask you, too? Is Muhammad Ali a coward? Because to the best of my knowledge that would be 'no,' while I consider Ali to be the most talented Heavyweight ever. And Ali and Elvis spent a significant deal of time together, at least as the term 'significant' is used in the sense of big names spending time together. But they were both together in Vegas several times, where Elvis gave Ali a $10,000 robe to wear against Joe Bugner in his fight there, and then later when Elvis was Ali's guest in Pennsylvania (Deer Creek I believe) at his training camp. And, we have an inordinate number of quotes from Ali speaking to the greatness, and goodness, of Elvis. When, too, it is also rather well known that because Ali created the moniker 'The Greatest,' for himself, that he didn't use it for others. But there is actually videotape of Ali speaking, after Elvis died, where he said in no uncertain terms, many wonderful things about Elvis, but also called him the greatest. While racists, all the time right, go to see sing with their fellow blacks as Elvis did when going to the Baptist East Trigg Church. NOT! You consistently and wrongly say, too, the only time Elvis ever stood up to the Colonel was respect to with “If I Can Dream,” but he also did so several other times and when it came to recording ‘In the Ghetto,” a socially conscious song as it pertained to blacks that the Colonel did not want him to perform. And, while you are right that Elvis did not stand up to the Colonel enough, and it’s understandable given he was a very loyal person, the fact that he did when it came to matters of race make it all more the clear how important that issue was to him. As when he played the Houston Astrodome in 1970 he was told he could ‘leave the black girls home,’ to which he replied, “Well if they don’t come, I’m not coming either,” which would of course cost him tons of money had they said not to. When, not only that, Elvis then insisted upon having his black back up singers driven all around the infield for the fans to see, by a blue eyed, blonde to further make his point.
@marlenebergkotte3257
@marlenebergkotte3257 Жыл бұрын
For Godsake leave this great man in peace! Why digging ! He was an awesome human being ! RIP EP😇💙😇💙You are the greatest😘😘😘
@joesmith6524
@joesmith6524 Жыл бұрын
These guys are racist!
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but Elvis Presley made himself and BB King, who should know, said as much. So did Rufus Thomas and they were both Memphians and said 'That's All Right Mamma' was like nothing anyone had done or heard before. When, too, 'That's Alright Mamma' is not the song that catapulted Elvis to stratospheric success, as that didn't happen until the white written 'Heartbreak Hotel' two years later. Moreover, the great Jackie Wilson also said (and all the men referenced are black of course) that black performers took more from Elvis than he ever took from them, or a quote very, very similar to that, as I paraphrased. While Elvis, also, after Wilson had a heart attack, later, paid for his nursing home bills until his death. And this is a racist? Big Mamma Thornton? Her song Hound Dog was written by two white Jewish men. The same white gentlemen who took the song to Elvis to record and Elvis made a massive hit of it. When, too, Elvis amalgamated black music, white country & influences from every direction into what he did. When we know, too, that the black music referred to also took from white folk music, as ALL MUSIC can be found to have influences from elsewhere. Elvis, too - before 1954 - even used to go into Sun and actually helped the Prisonaires lead singer, who also stuttered like Elvis, get through that and the Prisonaires were eventually able to record the great song 'Walking in the Rain' due to Elvis helping the lead singer, Johnny Bragg, mouth the words without stuttering. While this whole absurd channel says Elvis was a racist when he also went to see Bragg and the group, in prison, to offer them money for lawyers and other needs, as well. When, at this time, especially in the deep south as they were, that in and of itself could have killed a white person's career. The sneer, the presentation of the music, the hair, the unabandoned dancing style was all original, as Elvis admitted he couldn't dance, but just did what came naturally to him. And, the bottom line is, what made Elvis Presley such a big star, is again as BB King said, he had it all. He was tall; he was handsome; Johnny Cash called him the best rhythm guitarist he ever saw; and he absolutely had a tremendous voice, far better than Chuck Berry's or Little Richard's or Carl Perkins, or pretty much anyone. And it's his voice being so incredible, and because he sang so many genres of music so incredibly well, that made him the greatest selling solo artist in music history and it's not even close. Now, did Elvis break through FIRST, because he was white. I believe so, but that only opened up the doors to great black music to the general public who hadn't heard it before then. While Elvis went through hell and almost quit, such was the abuse he suffered from the churches, physical attacks, verbal attacks, death threats, and music stations literally refusing to play his music and breaking his record while changing their station's entire music format. I'm also a musical historian and write this, not because I am the biggest Elvis Presley fan in the world, but because everything I have said here is simply true. When Elvis went to great lengths, too, to credit black musicians referring to Fats Domino as the King of Rock n Roll, as Elvis was the most kind hearted and least racial person you would ever find. And, I've already corresponded with the authors of this channel and they knew none of the information I have presented here and there is plenty more where that came from.
@kylestephens4133
@kylestephens4133 2 жыл бұрын
btw, since no one on this forum knows how music publishing works (including the maker of this weird video). Artists, such as Elvis, do not pay royalties. Publishing houses track the royalties due to the various parties, collects them from their many sources, then disburses them to whomever they were due. If someone publishes a song, like Big Boy Crudup, anyone can record it. Anyone!!! In fact, if you write a song you want as MANY people as possible to record it. Recording a published song is not theft. If royalties are not properly disbursed to the writer (who gets the "writer's share" of the royalties), it is not the recording artists fault (they don't keep track of that sh!t themselves). Usually, some creep somewhere in the web of music publishing is withholding the royalties (this is illegal), but never the recording artists fault (they don't write a check to the writer; this is done through the aforementioned Publishing Houses).
@headwhop26
@headwhop26 2 жыл бұрын
BMIs been around since 1939
@kylestephens4133
@kylestephens4133 2 жыл бұрын
@@headwhop26 I forget who the other big one is. Its almost always BMI or ...?
@headwhop26
@headwhop26 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylestephens4133 BMI, SESAC, ASCAP, etc.
@kylestephens4133
@kylestephens4133 2 жыл бұрын
@@headwhop26 ASCAP! Thanks
@neilsoulman
@neilsoulman 2 жыл бұрын
at least 12 other artists covered the song including Marty Robbins as a country version in 55 the year after Elvis version , Robins version flopped,.Thanks for posting on the publishing houses, was thinking the same thing
@stevepomeroy-rockin-pa-realtor
@stevepomeroy-rockin-pa-realtor 2 жыл бұрын
This video makes no point. Elvis was not a racist. Period. He fought that system and made it better. Both in the music studio, and even in love venues where blacks had to use the back or side entrances only. Elvis fought and changed that by threatening not to show up if that crap occurred.
@kimharrell6732
@kimharrell6732 2 жыл бұрын
Saying this is like saying Eminem is racist because he too was inspired by the styles of black music. Elvis was inspired and raised on it, he didn't capitalize. 🙄🙄 This right here is what is wrong with the world today. There are black country music stars now, I guess we should hate them because they are taking opportunity away from white singers. Jesus... look at the expectations and segregation laws back then... Did that stop him? No. A style can be inspired from anywhere, to say it is owned by a specific race, is in fact, RACIST. Just stop.🙄 Elvis was and will ALWAYS be the King. The time that it all took place was unfortunate because so many people, including myself, LOVE the music made by black artists back then... but how is that blame to be thrown on Elvis? He didn't make the laws. Blame the government. No one gets to choose their own skin color.
@waltymcnalty
@waltymcnalty Жыл бұрын
Nope. Not a hateful bone in his body. There. I just saved 27 minutes of your time.
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube Жыл бұрын
We agree with you homie, which you’ll find out if you watch the video!
@theasmrpunk4106
@theasmrpunk4106 Жыл бұрын
This video is trash, not worth watching. Hell, I'd rather watch water boil for 27 minutes instead.
@1976LILIANE
@1976LILIANE Жыл бұрын
@@Rewiretube Pure garbage!
@davidsandz2186
@davidsandz2186 2 жыл бұрын
"With Elvis doing this kind of music (RnB/Blues) it gave an injection to black music that no other artist had ever done." Rufus Thomas.... Whoever wrote this RE-WIRE nonsense, while they're not necessarily stupid, they are certainly truly ignorant in that they lack knowledge and/or understanding of the subject they are pontificating about.
@marcoesquandolez4737
@marcoesquandolez4737 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad I don't think the way you guys think. It must be torture waking up every day looking at the world the way you do.
@jayDee92133
@jayDee92133 Жыл бұрын
I mean if he was racist.. you really wanna defend that? I mean I don't know one black person that liked Elvis because of the comments rather true or not once it's out there it's out.
@marcoesquandolez4737
@marcoesquandolez4737 Жыл бұрын
@@jayDee92133 never said you have to like Elvis. I wouldn't defend him if he was a racist. But he's not a racist and it's a bogus narrative that's annoying and unfair to a single artist. He was a trailblazer as a performer who lived in the times he lived in. It is what it is.
@KennyGiven
@KennyGiven Жыл бұрын
Sorry, as much as you're right about a racist time in America's history benefiting Elvis, that doesn't make his a racist!
@lindafargo2203
@lindafargo2203 8 ай бұрын
After Elvis died, Little Richard said: “I love him. That's my buddy, my baby. I love him. We are very good friends, and it was a very great loss to the music world.
@walterfechter8080
@walterfechter8080 Жыл бұрын
Back in the 1960s, I was in a band. I had a Black guy on drums and keys. Those two guys were my best pals and great musicians. Yeah, we had a few squared-up types in our audiences. They used some harsh language which was directed at all of us on stage. As long as they didn't throw stuff at us, we kept playing. I say drop the "racist" rant and just get out there and Rock N Roll. Music is what unites all of us. Elvis Presley (RIP)
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube Жыл бұрын
Nice, we’re both in multiple bands right now. My wife’s uncle was in a couple of groups back in the 60s and 70s and it sounds like it was a pretty different landscape than how we play today.
@walterfechter8080
@walterfechter8080 Жыл бұрын
@@Rewiretube - I still listen to The Mynah Birds (Neil Young with Rick James). Likewise, for Sly and The Family Stone. All of those musicians knew what clicked. Take care -- W
@juelzgotagun2526
@juelzgotagun2526 Жыл бұрын
I'm a 31 year old black man and I love elvis I think he was misunderstood just like Michael jackson
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, while I enjoy Jackson, also. And here are many interesting facts about Elvis that most don't know. Sorry, but Elvis Presley made himself and BB King, who should know, said as much. So did Rufus Thomas and they were both Memphians and said 'That's All Right Mamma' was like nothing anyone had done or heard before. When, too, 'That's Alright Mamma' is not the song that catapulted Elvis to stratospheric success, as that didn't happen until the white written 'Heartbreak Hotel' two years later. Moreover, the great Jackie Wilson also said (and all the men referenced are black of course) that black performers took more from Elvis than he ever took from them, or a quote very, very similar to that, as I paraphrased. While Elvis, also, after Wilson had a heart attack, later, paid for his nursing home bills until his death. And this is a racist? Big Mamma Thornton? Her song Hound Dog was written by two white Jewish men. The same white gentlemen who took the song to Elvis to record and Elvis made a massive hit of it. When, too, Elvis amalgamated black music, white country & influences from every direction into what he did. When we know, too, that the black music referred to also took from white folk music, as ALL MUSIC can be found to have influences from elsewhere. Elvis, too - before 1954 - even used to go into Sun and actually helped the Prisonaires lead singer, who also stuttered like Elvis, get through that and the Prisonaires were eventually able to record the great song 'Walking in the Rain' due to Elvis helping the lead singer, Johnny Bragg, mouth the words without stuttering. While this whole absurd channel says Elvis was a racist when he also went to see Bragg and the group, in prison, to offer them money for lawyers and other needs, as well. When, at this time, especially in the deep south as they were, that in and of itself could have killed a white person's career. The sneer, the presentation of the music, the hair, the unabandoned dancing style was all original, as Elvis admitted he couldn't dance, but just did what came naturally to him. And, the bottom line is, what made Elvis Presley such a big star, is again as BB King said, he had it all. He was tall; he was handsome; Johnny Cash called him the best rhythm guitarist he ever saw; and he absolutely had a tremendous voice, far better than Chuck Berry's or Little Richard's or Carl Perkins, or pretty much anyone. And it's his voice being so incredible, and because he sang so many genres of music so incredibly well, that made him the greatest selling solo artist in music history and it's not even close. Now, did Elvis break through FIRST, because he was white. I believe so, but that only opened up the doors to great black music to the general public who hadn't heard it before then. While Elvis went through hell and almost quit, such was the abuse he suffered from the churches, physical attacks, verbal attacks, death threats, and music stations literally refusing to play his music and breaking his record while changing their station's entire music format. I'm also a musical historian and write this, not because I am the biggest Elvis Presley fan in the world, but because everything I have said here is simply true. When Elvis went to great lengths, too, to credit black musicians referring to Fats Domino as the King of Rock n Roll, as Elvis was the most kind hearted and least racial person you would ever find. And, I've already corresponded with the authors of this channel and they knew none of the information I have presented here and there is plenty more where that came from.
@dianachurchill8560
@dianachurchill8560 Жыл бұрын
Just because you think Elvis is racist does not make him racist. Although you have a right to express it.
@pauldark3044
@pauldark3044 2 жыл бұрын
Bringing Elvis name with racist is just stupid!
@kimberlyketer8924
@kimberlyketer8924 26 күн бұрын
I'm from Kenya 🇰🇪 i knew Elvis when i was a little girl in the 1980s because of my parents. I'm black i don't care what people say about him i love Elvis Presley ❤
@dantzmusic
@dantzmusic 9 ай бұрын
*I often wonder if Elvis were still around today, would people be on social media discussing* *these unfounded and utterly false accusations.*
@user-qz5gw8cd2p
@user-qz5gw8cd2p 2 ай бұрын
My mom grew up in the 50s, she told me that Elvis Presley was racist against Hispanics, and I do believe them. And my God is the King. For reals.
@Seamonkey555
@Seamonkey555 Жыл бұрын
As a Memphian I appreciate the honesty of this video. Elvis fans are loyal, but they also need to understand his work and who truly made him.
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for understanding the nuance we were trying to explore!
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
Who truly made him as BB King, who was there, disagrees with you, totally? As he and Rufus Thomas and other blacks there, and who knew Elvis, found that Elvis' 'That's Alright' was something totally new and different. Not to mention, that was in 1954 and Elvis didn't take off big until his release of 'Heartbreak Hotel' (written by a white woman) and he made his national TV debut on the Dorsey Brothers' “Stage Show,” with six appearances in the first three months of 1956, and that's what launched him the most. 'Hound Dog' was also not released until many months after Elvis became a star and it was brought to Elvis by Lieber and Stoller, who wrote it, so it has nothing to do with Big Mamma Thornton. In fact, Elvis' version, which I don't like as much as Thorntons, at all, was done in the style of Freddie Bell and the Bell Boys. Also, many covers of 'Hound Dog' had been done and Elvis certainly can't be held responsible for his record sales crushing all others. While we know the music industry treated blacks terribly, but we also know that Elvis and the blacks he knew, at that time, all worked together to overcome the country's racist views and aversion to race music. And, too, Elvis for the rest of his life did more wonderful things for blacks than anyone I can think of. So, calling Elvis racist is insane when the argument, especialy, is aimed at the shady record industry. Moreover, and what makes that ironic, is that Elvis - himself - was ripped off for more money than any singer in history.
@Michael-2112
@Michael-2112 Жыл бұрын
If you thing, Elvis stole the black people music, but it also make the black people music famous, so, Elvis did a favor to them!!! The people started to like gospel because of him, as an example
@Michael-2112
@Michael-2112 Жыл бұрын
And he deserves this title, the other person didn't get to be as famous as him, so Elvis deserves it. That person couldn't win over as many people as Elvis did, or fill as many stages as Elvis did. The world of music is like that, you can use other people's songs, or your own, what matters to be known and win titles, is fame, and the way people see you.
@Michael-2112
@Michael-2112 Жыл бұрын
He made completely unknown songs famous. So is the king
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 2 жыл бұрын
(3) The factual and documented stories of Elvis' love and generosity of blacks and all people are as about as well known as his singing, so did you miss it?. Meaning the stories from black individuals, famous and not famous alike, speaking of the fact that Elvis was the most color blind, loving and generous man they had ever met, and as I said, well documented. Such as his paying for Jackie Wilson's hospital bills and nursing care for years and other type stories which would take me many, many hours to fully write. Although, as you accurately pointed out, Elvis always did give props to black artists speaking Fats Domino as the King of Rock n Roll. When to the contrary, you then state one thing you do know is a fact is that Elvis stole from blacks. Stole? It's very much an interesting choice of words given the definition of the word. Because, as you know, most singers of that day were strictly singers and performers, and so, so much of the music written came out of the Brill building in New York, primarily for RCA, where Otis Blackwell worked. And, as Otis was the author of a half dozen or so Presley hits - and was not only paid by his employer - he also became quite wealthy by authoring songs for Elvis Presley garnering tremendous profits from his Presley records, with the singer and publisher typically having equal shares, though it would all depend on the legal agreement reached in which all parties agreed. Hence, having the opportunity to write a Presley record was very much akin to being an inside trader with a hot tip on a stock. As you know from your investment (writing the song), that your chances for profiting - given it was Elvis - were quite good. And, that is what happened. So if that is an instance of stealing, then we would all like to be stolen from wouldn't we? Moreover, and the argument you most hear has to do with Elvis somehow stealing the great blues song "Hound Dog" from Big Mamma Thornton (a version I prefer to Elvis'), who had a tremendously big hit with it, though dwarfed by Presley's success about 20-1. While 'Hound Dog' was initially written for Thornton by two white, Jewish men, Leiber and Stoller, who like Elvis, had an almost encyclopedic knowledge of blues music. So where does this word steal come from, as did Big Mamma Thornton steal 'Hound Dog' from Leiber and Stoller? As Leiber and Stoller, who owned the song, wanted Elvis to sing it.
@impalaman9707
@impalaman9707 2 жыл бұрын
By that logic, you could make the case that nearly all British rock stars are racist, too--most notoriously the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin--who even took it an extra step and appropriated songs from black artists and never gave them credit!
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, them too.
@impalaman9707
@impalaman9707 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rewiretube Well, I'm glad that you are at least even-handed with your criticism. See, racism isn't just the realm of "caucasians in the southern United States"!
@jamalwest7658
@jamalwest7658 2 жыл бұрын
Eh the Stones never tried to hide who the originally songwriters were to songs they covered,, now some of the lyrics to their 70s songs....
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube 2 жыл бұрын
@@impalaman9707 Yeah bro, that was the point of the video
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 2 жыл бұрын
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@CaitlinAyala
@CaitlinAyala 2 жыл бұрын
10:05 is hilarious because those comments are already under the video and it's been out for less than a day
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 2 жыл бұрын
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@dannyanime3468
@dannyanime3468 2 жыл бұрын
These are the same people who made him the great white hope by the way.
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 2 жыл бұрын
(4) Then, too, we have the story of Carol Fran, a black American soul blues singer, pianist and songwriter who did a cover version of 'Crying in the Chapel' and despite the song's success and a subsequent reissue later on by Josie Records, her momentum was stalled by Elvis' release of his own version in 1965. Although Elvis had recorded the song 4 years prior to Fran, in 1960 - I believe - it was not released, unbeknownst to him, until 1965. And Fran certainly profited from 'Crying in the Chapel,' though it is true to say that Elvis' version slowed that success down, as said, heretofore. With Elvis only finding out about it when he ran into Fran and she made reference to Elvis' release, not long after her re-issue, and how it had cost her money. When of course, that's just business, but Elvis felt so bad about it he immediately asked for his checkbook and wrote her a check for $10,000. It may have been more, but I don't like making statements I'm not fully accurate on. So, here again, this would be quite the opposite of stealing as well as be another fact which discounts the racist nonsense as no racist would ever commit such an act. If you look up the Prisonaires and Elvis, a black group formed in prison, you will find it was a black group that Elvis greatly loved. In fact, his contact with them was both before and after he was famous, and feeling as if the group's leader, Johnnie Bragg had been framed, Elvis would keep in contact with Bragg and visit him in prison offering him money for an attorney and more, but Bragg never accepted. Bragg, who also stuttered, was having a very difficult time delivering the lyrics to the hit song he wrote for the group, called 'Walkin' in the Rain' and a young pre-fame Elvis, at Sun Records, sat with Bragg for several hours working together to help Bragg with pronunciation prior to the master cut. And then we have the police report from the 60s, let alone the testimony of every black person who ever spent significant time with Elvis, as to his kicking the shit out of a white gentleman, Troy Ivy, who used a racial slur against Elvis' black employee. And the stories, all true and which can be verified with any type of decent research, totally debunk your nonsensical claims. While I can't wait to hear your response to this, but as you can in no way substantiate your point in light of these facts, I suspect that you will not try to put one forth due to its futility.
@Cliche_Guevara
@Cliche_Guevara 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for the nuanced take. I think the context people miss in Fight The Power is two lines later “Most of my heroes don’t appear on no stamps”. He is clearly talking about racist systems and the lack of representation at a time when several states were refusing to adopt MLK day as a holiday. I was 16 at the time and the single line was a revelation. One quibble with the video…. The band is Living Colour not In Living Color. In Living Color was a TV show that had a largely black cast, also revolutionary for its time. Again, great video.
@danielharper1542
@danielharper1542 2 жыл бұрын
You really need to watch Elvis and the black community!(
@adrienneraeash3440
@adrienneraeash3440 2 жыл бұрын
Well just who died and made you Elvis Christ?! ;)
@marcoesquandolez4737
@marcoesquandolez4737 2 жыл бұрын
Alan Freed coined the phrase "Rock N Roll" because of the music Elvis was making at the time. That's why people.
@alexandernijeboer8385
@alexandernijeboer8385 10 ай бұрын
Love your Elvis related videos and the pain staking effort you put into making them. This video is one based on truth finding and a labor of love. After watching the video and considering your arguments I feel the conclusion that "Elvis was racist" is way too bold. The American society in the 50s and 60s was racist. The fact that ASCAP could not represent black songwriters and that the music industry was deeply segregated was racist. But does that automatically make Elvis a racist? I feel calling Elvis a racist for using black music and not paying royalties is very unqualified. Little Richard frist was disgusted when Elvis covered Tutti Frutti and Ready Teddy, but he later acknowledged that the Elvis covers brought him (Little Richard) a degree of wealth and fame that he (Little Richard) would never have achieved independently. Elvis may not have been the first, nor did he invent Rock 'n Roll. In your argument I miss the fact that is commonly acknowledged that Elvis paved the way for black artists in "white markets" and doing so helped tearing down the seggregation. Further you ignore the fact that Elvis grew up in a dirt-poor black neighborhood and that the "black" music he heard in his youth became an important influence on his music, which was a blend of country & western, rhythm and blues and gospel. Elvis' cover of That's All Right, Mama is not a copy paste cover of Arthur Crudup's song, just like Blue Moon of Kentucky (country and western) is not a copy paste cover of the Bill Monroe song. In both songs we can hear the influences of the blend that influenced Elvis. Yet, I do agree it is bitter that most likely Bill Monroe was paid royalties and Arthur Crudup was not. Blaming Elvis for that, is judging the '50s and segregation through today's eyes. Elvis was part of a racist society and maybe he could have done more. Maybe not. Whatever your judgement, it may also be wise to judge the past mildly. Now, more than 70 years later, racism in America is far from defeated. Over 70 years have passed, yet still 38 million Americans live in poverty according to FeedingAmerica.org: "Communities of color, especially Black communities, experience hunger, poverty, and unemployment at much higher rates than white people. This is because of long-standing racial injustice that leads to barriers in education, employment, housing, and more." If Elvis was racist then, what can be said of contemporary Americans who allow this inequality to continue?
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube 10 ай бұрын
Good thoughts!
@PookRocks
@PookRocks Жыл бұрын
The debate over the who is the king of rock and roll rages on. Should it be Chuck Berry, ? Little Richard ? Eddie Cochran? How do you define what rock and roll is ? Because it is born of so many influences, As there is always someone who has come before. Where did Chuck Berry and little Richard, etc get their influences from? I love these artists and I am a big Elvis fan but from my understanding Elvis was a pop star.A very good looking, charismatic, exceptional performer. Almost the complete package. The music industry is only interested in what sells at the end of the day.
@bamachine
@bamachine Жыл бұрын
Calling Elvis racist is just plain silly. Yes, he took music that was originally found in only black neighborhoods and made it super popular, so some try to say he co-opted their music. Everybody co-opts those that came before them. Elvis just made it popular to a wider audience because the record producers/labels/promoters/politicians back then were the racists, not Elvis. Elvis spreading that music really helped his contemporary artists that were black, start reaching those wider audiences. Motown might have never became what it did without him. I am sure that eventually the music of the black artists would have gotten out there but it may not have been through Motown and may not have been that early. Elvis got made fun of by actual racists because he hung out in the black neighborhoods of Memphis. He went on to do so much that would be the direct opposite of what a racist would do. He even refused to play anywhere that did not respect the black members on his tours/shows(like other artists or his backup singers). He bought a house for his cook(who was a black lady) and bought a brand new Cadillac for a random black lady. He famously sung songs about the plight of those "In The Ghetto" and the song mentioned here, "If I Can Dream". Are you a homophobe because your boss, your viewers, your local police chief are homophobes...why yes you are, by your logic here. Is Vanilla Ice a homophobe(maybe he is, dunno) because he sampled "Under Pressure" by Queen/Bowie? It is not Elvis' fault that the record companies, promoters and some racist fans pushed his music while ignoring those that came before him or were contemporaries with him. Chuck D had every right to say that Elvis wasn't a hero to him but he did not have to call him a racist, which is categorically false. Now John Wayne, he might have been, I do know many said he was an asshole.
@kennethroots7575
@kennethroots7575 Жыл бұрын
This is a really good study of the context in which Elvis rose to fame and achieved his status as the "king". The key point is that, although he himself was not a racist, he did benefit from the racism built into the music industry and the American psyche writ large. It is disappointing to me that, given his personal and professional relationships with so many black artists, his connection to the black community and some of its most prominent figures, topped by his generosity of spirit, he never ensured that those whose music he made famous were compensated appropriately while he built an empire on their creations. I don't believe it was malicious or malevolent, but perhaps simply the result of people and influences disappearing in the rear-view mirror as life got bigger and busier around him. It could also have been a factor that he had relinquinshed a lot of control over his professional life (and finances?) to Tom Parker.
@lindafargo2203
@lindafargo2203 8 ай бұрын
Elvis even said on several occasions that Fats Domino was the true king of rock and roll! Nowhere near racism!
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
BB King: “'Let me tell you the definitive truth about Elvis Presley and racism', The King of the Blues, B.B. King said in 2010. 'With Elvis, there was not a single drop of racism in that man. And when I say that, believe me I should know'. King, in his 1996 autobiography, said Presley 'was different. He was friendly. I remember Elvis distinctly because he was handsome, quiet and polite to a fault. Spoke with this thick molasses southern accent, and always called me 'sir'. I liked that'. 'All of our (Presley's and King's) influences had something in common', King explained. 'We were born poor in Mississippi, went through poor childhoods and we learned and earned our way through music. You see, I talked with Elvis about music early on, and I know one of the big things in our hearts was this: Music is owned by the whole universe. It isn't exclusive to the black man or the white man or any other color. It shared in and by our souls'. 'I told Elvis once, and he told me he remembered I told him this, is that music is like water', King pointed out. 'Water is for every living person and every living thing'. Many people make the mistake of being wrong about all of this', King continued. 'If you ask anyone, I'm talking about people from all kinds of music - Blues, Soul, Country, Gospel, whatever - and if they are honest with you and have been around long enough to know---they'll thank Elvis for his contributions. He opened many doors and by all his actions, not just his words, he showed his love for all people'. 'People don't realize that when 'That's All Right, Mama' was first played (by Dewey Phillips in July 1954) no one had ever heard anything like that record', King stressed. 'It wasn't just country. It was Rhythm and Blues. It was Pop music. It was music for everybody. This is important'. King spelled out that there were two very specific music influences that he had in common with Presley. 'I was barely 11 years old, when one of the greatest influences of my life, Robert Johnson, was recording just across the street from this (Majestic) theater recording his first ever songs', he revealed. King was talking about how, on the corner of Houston and St. Mary's streets in San Antonio, at the Gunter Hotel, Johnson changed the music world forever. King grew up listening to the 16 songs Johnson recorded in the Gunter and 'that had a lot to do with where I am today'. 'Johnson came from the same dirt Elvis and so many of us did', King submitted. 'It was the world of sharecropping, and to survive that hard work bending over all day long, there would be plenty of singing. Elvis' momma and daddy did their share of it - both the picking and the singing. It was called survival. It was called life. It was just as important to us as water. It was as important to those of us who had it in our souls as the water'. 'The other big influence was Jimmy Rogers', King said. 'Some people want to say he was the Father of Country Music, but like Elvis, he was more than that. He was a big influence on not just me. I used to listen to my aunt's records of Jimmy Rogers and that was a real treat. I liked that 'Mississippi Delta Blues' and to listen to him yodel'. 'I never did yodel', King laughed. 'But Jimmy Rogers could sure yodel. He was very good at it. But yes, he influenced more than country music, he influenced Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters as much as he did Merle Haggard or Willie Nelson. See, Elvis did that too, but only much wider. Elvis influenced everybody's music and it was for the good of all of us'. 'Now, where did Jimmy Rogers learn his music from', King asked, before he gave the answer. 'He learned it working alongside the black railroad workers and hobos. Elvis lived and played with black children back in (Tupelo) Mississippi. He told me that when he was just a baby and his mama had to work, he was cared for sometimes by his grandmamma, but mostly by a neighbor black lady'. Rogers turned out to be the first superstar in the country music field. Born in 1897, his mother died when he was barely seven years old. He spent his childhood residing with several relatives in southwest Alabama and southeast Mississippi. His father found him a job working for the railroad as a water boy for the railroad and Rodgers soon fit in among the rail workers and hobos. He enjoyed listening to gandy dancers, African American workers, who would sing hymns and work songs daily. He learned to pick a guitar from some of them. 'People today will say things about Elvis they just don't know about', King commented. 'They want to say this is black music, this is white music, this is country music. But when Elvis came along all that was suddenly washed down the drain'. Yes, white American performers like Elvis drew on R’n’B pioneered by Southern blacks, but they had absorbed white musical influences: the “hillbilly” nuances in the music of such seminal blues performers as Robert Johnson and Charley Patton are a perfect example. To characterize the South’s variegated musical culture in terms of “theft” and “appropriation” is to indulge in exactly the kind of hysterical rhetoric that the region has long been trying to leave behind.
@jacobyergert5903
@jacobyergert5903 Жыл бұрын
Is this a Christopher Tyler burner account?
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
@@jacobyergert5903 That's your question instead of why don't these two take down this absurdly, ridiculous video? When honestly, I'd like to see them succeed honestly, but I get more mail about this site, and asking me to come here to contest what they say. And, frankly, I probably do it only once for every 25 or so contacts. When they have a really good idea, and the way they present their material is good, too. But as you can see, and with only 1.22 thousand describers, they really did themselves a disservice coming out of the box with this trope and banal nonsense. Their lucky, too, as I at least think if they try to make historical documentaries down the middle, they may still do well. But as long as they continue with the left wing nonsense, they're simply not going to do much in comparison to other KZfaq channels. While now that I've responded, I'd love to hear your detailed thoughts, thanks!!!
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube Жыл бұрын
Chris, you seem like a nice guy. We’re firmly of the belief that the truth isn’t always “down the middle,” and we do this channel to give ourselves fun writing challenges and to tell some stories we find interesting. We’re going to continue doing left wing nonsense, I just don’t want you to feel like you’re wasting your time!
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
@@Rewiretube Hi, and thank you for your response, while I've said several times, I wish you both success and want to see the channel succeed. As I always like to see people succeed when they have a passion for certain subjects and put forth a 'good faith' effort to present history, truthfully. The problem here, however, is that your conclusion that Elvis was somehow a racist, is clearly wrong, based upon a demonstrable amount of evidence, only a scintilla's worth I present here. The evidence being so demonstrable, in fact, that I'm sure if you offered a sincere apology and stated that you were going to cover topics of interest in a 100%, factual way, your channel would do better. Because you actually have a potential gold mine here, given how you do the presentations, but you really do have to take off that political lens. Because among most historians, the orthodox view is that reading modern notions of morality into the past is to commit the error of presentism. So, to avoid this, historians restrict themselves to describing what happened and attempt to refrain from using language that passes judgment. You both may like, to also think, that neither of you could have been racist in that day and time, but you have absolutely no way of definitively knowing. However, I understand that to avoid moral judgments is to practice moral relativism & I don't ask that you do that. Therefore, my critique is not your making a judgment, it's just that your judgment is so wrong and it's very hard to understand how two (2) educated men like yourselves, if open to the totality of the truth, do not understand that? (Emphasis Added) Because whether that conclusion comes from Elvis' closest childhood friend, Sam Bell - who was black; his friend BB King, later; his support of the Civil Rights Movement (though granted not publicly*); or all the blacks who both worked with or for him, they are all of the same view, that your view, is wrong. Also, as to the cultural appropriation assertions, etc., BB King, Rufus Thomas and others attested to how different Elvis' 'That's Alright' was, & Elvis drew on all his influences, which is perfectly fine. He didn't break out big, either, with anything from the black community, but instead 'Heartbreak Hotel' and 'Hound Dog,' which was Lieber and Stoller's song that they took to Elvis to do in the style of Freddie Bell and the Bellboys. *Let it be fully noted that prior to coming under the management of Colonel Tom Parker, Elvis engaged in many practices that a white liberal would, and not a conservative. And, in fact, because of death threats, the stress on his mother, threats of arrest, towns banning him; whole radio stations breaking his records and changing their format away from Rock N Roll because they felt as if Elvis was in league with the black man in singing 'race music,' Elvis at one time almost gave up. However, by having the intestinal fortitude to carry on, he broke down many barriers that allowed black singers to become more mainstream and successful far sooner than later. He also did not public support Civil Rights because of any fear of being associated with blacks, and I personally wished he would have marched with Dr. King, but Colonel Parker drilled it into him, quite early - and it seems the smart thing to do if the main focus is furthering one's career - to not weigh in on any political subjects. Why? Because regardless of your position, you're gonna piss off near half your audience and in the process possibly destroy your career. When Elvis was actually able to do much more for blacks both personally, and through message songs such as 'In the Ghetto' or 'If I Can Dream.' which was written using both MLK's words and Elvis's thoughts and words when talking of civil rights on the set of the 68' Comeback Special) Personally, too, I prefer Big Mamma Thornton's version of 'Hound Dog,' (as I believe Elvis did), but we can't hold Elvis responsible for the public preferring his version. It's rather sad, too, because in this instance - at least - you both seem to want to align yourself with a certain segment of the left wing, today, when blacks of that day, who truly knew Elvis, speak of him in the highest regard. No, not a jealous Ray Charles who never met him, but a Muhammad Ali, who wouldn't tolerate a racist in his presence for one second, who is also on tape calling Elvis 'The Greatest,' something he never, ever did, for anyone. Thus, it seems for click bait purposes, too, that you used Elvis in your title, but your main criticisms really have to do with how terribly the record industry treated blacks in those days. When ironically, in terms of being ripped off, an excellent case can be made that no singer was ever ripped off for more money, historically, than Elvis Presley. Hence, the major story here, given both where and when he grew up, is actually how pure of heart and color blind, Elvis actually was. As at a time when it was absolutely taboo for a white celebrity to visit blacks in prison, let alone offer them money for lawyers & other things, Elvis did it. The great blues singer Carol Fran also had an exquisite version of ‘Crying in the Chapel’ come out in 1964, and seemed likely to score a hit - until Elvis' rendition was released in 1965 - and garnered the lion’s share of attention. Elvis had recorded his version in 1960, though, and knew nothing of Fran’s version until she saw him, and teasingly ribbed him about knocking her off the charts. However, he felt so bad about it that he had Joe Esposito instantly write her a $10,000 check, with all these stories being quite verifiable. And, of course, he paid Jackie Wilson's hospital bill and nursing care bill for the rest of his life. So, NO, these are NOT the acts of a racist and I'm certainly not wasting my time as if you look at all the comments, I've definitely won the argument. And that's not because I'm the Simpson 'Dream Team,' it's simply because the facts are overwhelmingly on my side, as the truth is the truth. For those, too, who ask why I write, it's actually because I get quite a few emails or YT messages asking me, too, as people know I am somewhat of an expert on the life of Elvis Presley. Unfortunately, however, you also said - and I believe it was tongue and cheek - "[w]e're going to continue doing left wing nonsense." But I don't believe the viewers will find that comment to be 'tongue and cheek,' however, and you've just committed another self-inflicted wound. This is obviously why you have such a great format and presentation style but fail to garner more subscribers. Best Wishes ~ Christopher Tyler
@bernardfong1019
@bernardfong1019 4 ай бұрын
Slander of Elvis. Presley had always thanked and acknowledged blacks for giving him impetus to popularize the new music that was derived from the Afro evangelical tradition. His model and friend was Roy Hamilton with whom he collaborated. He, by impulse, bought a new Cadillac that a black couple had coveted but did not have the means to buy.
@carlpedroncellijr
@carlpedroncellijr Жыл бұрын
He did perform live in the first eight years of the 1960's. In 1961 he did three concerts and in 1960 he performed live in Miami on a TV special.
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correction!
@winniethepoohandeeyore2
@winniethepoohandeeyore2 4 ай бұрын
Elvis literally refused to perform when his back up singers were told they weren't allowed.
@kenmcd8338
@kenmcd8338 Жыл бұрын
I will beg to differ with many of your opinionated assertions. Elvis grew up in the poorest side of Tupelo Mississippi during the height if the depression spent many years on the black side of town Shake Rag the poorest side of town. He went with his parents to a pentacostal church-that believed in the holy spirit could push you into doing things you were holding back on doing....singing in tongues, handling serpents, jumping dancing in praise of GOD. But Elvis had several young black friends who took him to their all black churches and he loved to worship and sing with them. A pastor from one black church Rev Brewster said that after Elvis got involved at his church that he could see "That God could use Elvis for a purpose" Elvis' mom taught him to be color blind -poor people were poor people....no matter color . Organically Elvis grew up in a black community and the culture he was bathed in became his culture.IF he had been black in a black community and went on the the heights Elvis did-would this discussion be taking place? NO Reverse discrimination seems to be at play for Elvis. Chuck Berrys first hit was "Maybelline" 1955-but that was a reworking of a Bob Wills bluegrass song called "Ida Red" Chuck liked the song so he rewrote the lyrics and sped it up with crisp guitar notes-and has a hit. NO ONE accuses Chuck of stealing from another culture. Ray Charles also heard the Grand Old Opry on radio as a kid, loved the music. When he began his career he did several country albums with many country covers and he added his own style to those songs-NO ONE says Ray stole from country music or artists??? Now BB King was friends with Elvis, closer in Memphis than most know, BB said "He was so hot, creative and sang so good "I don't think they got it wrong when they called him the KING. Elvis nearly 3 octave voice-ballads, gospel, blues,rock, country, opera he literally sand anything and did it well. People who were around him said "When he walked into a room, even if you did not see him-you could feel he was there" CHARISMA that is limited to few people in life ELVIS PRESLEY HAD IT People who actually knew, spent time with and were good friends of Elvis say these things about him: Jackie Wilson:'A lot of people have accused Elvis of stealing the black man's music, when in fact, almost every black solo entertainer copied from Elvis'. Sammy Davis Jr said this about Elvis: 'Early on somebody told me that Elvis was black. And I said 'No, he's white but he's down-home'. And that is what it's all about. Not being black or white it's being 'down-home' and which part of down-home you come from' ... 'I have a respect for Elvis and my friendship. The only thing I want to know is, 'Was he my friend?', 'Did I enjoy him as a performer?', 'Did he give the world of entertainment something?' - and the answer is YES on all accounts. 'On a scale of one to ten, I would rate Elvis eleven'' Muhammad Ali said: "I don't admire nobody, but Elvis Presley was the sweetest, most humble and nicest man you'd want to know" BB King knew Elvis very well and they spent time together in the early days in Memphis this is his take as told to a magazine writer in 2010 Below is the abridged article ; B.B. King, Others Knew and Defended Elvis Presley Against All Racist Assertions Posted on June 17, 2020 by Texans Jack & Dodie . . 'Let me tell you the definitive truth about Elvis Presley and racism’, The King of the Blues, B.B. King said in 2010. ‘With Elvis, there was not a single drop of racism in that man. And when I say that, believe me I should know,. King remembered when he first met the young Presley, it was obvious how respectful and comfortable he was around blues men. King, in his 1996 autobiography, said Presley ‘was different. He was friendly. I remember Elvis distinctly because he was handsome, quiet and polite to a fault. Spoke with this thick molasses southern accent, and always called me ‘sir’. I liked that’. All of our (Presley’s and King’s) influences had something in common’, King explained. ‘We were born poor in Mississippi, went through poor childhoods and we learned and earned our way through music. You see, I talked with Elvis about music early on, and I know one of the big things in his heart was this: Music is owned by the whole universe. It isn’t exclusive to the black man or the white man or any other color. It shared in and by our souls’. ‘I told Elvis once, and he told me he remembered I told him this, is that music is like water’, King pointed out. ‘Water is for every living person and every living thing’. Water from the white fountain don’t taste any better than from the black fountain. We just need to share it, that’s all. You see, Elvis knew this and I know this’. "He opened many doors and by all his actions, not just his words, he showed his love for all people’ ‘People don’t realize that when ‘That’s All Right, Mama’ was first played (by Dewey Phillips in July 1954) no one had ever heard anything like that record’, King stressed. ‘It wasn’t just country. It was Rhythm and Blues. It was Pop music. It was music for everybody. This is important’. ‘People today will say things about Elvis they just don’t know about’, King commented. ‘They want to say this is black music, this is white music this is country music. But when Elvis came along all that was suddenly washed down the drain’ and blended into something new' Back in ’72, Elvis helped me get a good gig at the Hilton Hotel while he was playing in the big theater’, King acknowledged in 2010. ‘He put in a call for me and I worked in the lounge to standing room only. Elvis fans came in different colors but their love of good music was all the same. They were always a good audience’. ‘Many nights I’d go upstairs after we finished our sets and go up to his suite’, King confessed. ‘I’d play Lucille (his guitar) and sing with Elvis, or we’d take turns. It was his way of relaxing’
@kingcrash8613
@kingcrash8613 3 ай бұрын
I feel like there are more videos by white people speaking against Elvis while there are more black people speaking in his behalf lately. White guilt? -Harry Balafonte was black and his 1956 release Calypso outsold bith of Elvis’s first two records as well as all of Sinatra’s. The hit single Day O combined two previously released versions from other Jamaican artists in 52 and 54, and he didn’t give public credit to them either. That’s how it was. Most of the biggest names in jazz were black. Nat King Cole, sammy Davis Jr. and Louis Armstrong may not have had the same commercial success as Sinatra, but they were still relatively successful as entertainers against both white and black counterparts. RnB was a danceable byproduct of jazz, as was blues, soul, and country, and was always treated as a lesser form artistically by both the artists and the public. No one before Elvis had ever achieved anything close to the level of success that he did. There was no way to foresee it even by the people who were exploiting it in an effort to bottle and sell black music to racist america, which he himself wasn’t. He was simply the best vessel because he was so marketable. That was because he was handsome and white, but also because he was legitimately terrific and well steeped in the culture and tradition. What followed was chaos that no one could have predicted. A lot of people got rich while a lot of people were overlooked in the process. Elvis himself was part of the crowd that was being exploited and controlled. There is strong evidence that government and a controlling class stepped in for fear of the potential for his success to empower black people by humanizing them to the public with acknowledgement and respect for their cultural achievements. If we isolate the artform and culture and discredit Elvis for taking from artists like Chuck Berry, then we have to discredit Chuck Berry for taking from T-Bone Walker, and Walker from his high school buddy Charlie Christian. It’s a pointless and never ending exercise. The music didn’t exist in a vacuum and the most innovative artists are always also the best imitators. That’s simply how it’s learned as well as an ongoing part of the craft. Elvis never claimed the title of King nor had any part in the business decisions behind his success, which were made to suit the public’s racism and not the other way around. He always graciously passed credit of ‘King’ to his idols in the black community, and would have assumed that public acknowlegement would have been enough for them to still achieve relative success if it had thus far eluded them. Still, the worst thing that happened to anyone following his success was that they stayed in the same position they were already in. More often, as a rising tide raises all ships, parallel black performers gained more exposure and thrived in a way they never could have otherwise. Many, from BB King to James Brown, Little Richard, and Jimi Hendrix, praised him for that specifically, appreciated him for his abilities as a unique and authentic artist of their culture and craft, and admired him for his colorblind and progressive attitude. He was a performer at the mercy of the times also, and any investigation shows that he really seemed to have done what he could when he could within the bounds of the human condition. I suppose he could’ve funded a starving artists charity, but no one else ever did either. Im tempted to compare his character, contributions, and status to Micheal Jackson’s to point out our flaws in addressing their legacies, but it would be an extremely complex topic while not necessary, and would only paint Jackson in a bad light. But all the things we blame Elvis for, MJ was definitely guilty of while we seem to give him a pass that’s probably based on race. Judge an artist by thier ability and output, and Elvis never would have been able to sing and perform the way he did if he didn’t have an enormous lifelong respect, appreciation, and love for black music and culture that would be impossible for anyone but a terrific artist in those genres to understand, which virtually all in a position to seemed to have embraced him for.
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 2 жыл бұрын
Elvis Presley And The Black Community - That Echo Will Never Die (Reaction) - KZfaq
@zroy9263
@zroy9263 Жыл бұрын
I'm a music historian and expert on blues and rock n roll music. I'm also a fan of Elvis singing the blues and rock n roll. I also think that he was the best WHITE blues singer ever! He was soulful, greasy, and funky as fuck! However, I have to thank you cats for putting out this truthful and enlightening video! Let these ignorant and bigoted haters continue to hate. You were speaking from the perspective of an educated historian of music. As a Black bluesman, I don't think that Elvis was racist. Because my all-time favorite blues performer John Lee Hooker said that Elvis was a very good friend of his and that he was one of the greatest people that was ever born. However, the fact remains that there were countless singers, musicians, songwriters, and performers that were more talented and responsible for inspiring Elvis. The reason why these artists didn't get the proper respect, creative recognition, and monetary compensation is because of racism! That wasn't necessarily Elvis Presley's fault. And I also agree that Chuck Berry was and is THE TRUE KING OF ROCK N ROLL! Another great point that you cats have made is how most people can't even mention more than a couple of Black rock n roll stars. It's downright shameful! Black folks should also be ashamed because they've allowed this to happen to our culture.
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply. We’ve got ONE other person who agrees with us about Chuck! Lol
@zroy9263
@zroy9263 Жыл бұрын
@Re:wire Thank you for your acknowledgment! Considering how many people in rock and roll Chuck Berry inspired and influenced, whether it's through songwriting, musicianship, originality, or performing, you would have to be delusional, ignorant, and biased to think that Elvis Presley preceded all of these accomplishments! I dig Elvis Presley as a bluesman and rock n roll legend, but the reality is that he's a mere copy of the original art form.
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
@@Rewiretube Chuck Berry had 1 NUMBER ONE SONG. Elvis 18 to 30, and even more depending upon how you count and using various charts. And, as you say, you have 1 other person who agrees w/you about Chuck Berry, so you've clearly lost the debate in stunning fashion!!! So, sorry, but Elvis Presley made himself and BB King, who should know, said as much. So did Rufus Thomas and they were both Memphians and said 'That's All Right Mamma' was like nothing anyone had done or heard before. When, too, 'That's Alright Mamma' is not the song that catapulted Elvis to stratospheric success, as that didn't happen until the white written 'Heartbreak Hotel' two years later. Moreover, the great Jackie Wilson also said (and all the men referenced are black of course) that black performers took more from Elvis than he ever took from them, or a quote very, very similar to that, as I paraphrased. While Elvis, also, after Wilson had a heart attack, later, paid for his nursing home bills until his death. And this is a racist? Big Mamma Thornton? Her song Hound Dog was written by two white Jewish men. The same white gentlemen who took the song to Elvis to record and Elvis made a massive hit of it. When, too, Elvis amalgamated black music, white country & influences from every direction into what he did. When we know, too, that the black music referred to also took from white folk music, as ALL MUSIC can be found to have influences from elsewhere. Elvis, too - before 1954 - even used to go into Sun and actually helped the Prisonaires lead singer, who also stuttered like Elvis, get through that and the Prisonaires were eventually able to record the great song 'Walking in the Rain' due to Elvis helping the lead singer, Johnny Bragg, mouth the words without stuttering. While this whole absurd channel says Elvis was a racist when he also went to see Bragg and the group, in prison, to offer them money for lawyers and other needs, as well. When, at this time, especially in the deep south as they were, that in and of itself could have killed a white person's career. The sneer, the presentation of the music, the hair, the unabandoned dancing style was all original, as Elvis admitted he couldn't dance, but just did what came naturally to him. And, the bottom line is, what made Elvis Presley such a big star, is again as BB King said, he had it all. He was tall; he was handsome; Johnny Cash called him the best rhythm guitarist he ever saw; and he absolutely had a tremendous voice, far better than Chuck Berry's or Little Richard's or Carl Perkins, or pretty much anyone. And it's his voice being so incredible, and because he sang so many genres of music so incredibly well, that made him the greatest selling solo artist in music history and it's not even close. Now, did Elvis break through FIRST, because he was white. I believe so, but that only opened up the doors to great black music to the general public who hadn't heard it before then. While Elvis went through hell and almost quit, such was the abuse he suffered from the churches, physical attacks, verbal attacks, death threats, and music stations literally refusing to play his music and breaking his record while changing their station's entire music format. I'm also a musical historian and write this, not because I am the biggest Elvis Presley fan in the world, but because everything I have said here is simply true. When Elvis went to great lengths, too, to credit black musicians referring to Fats Domino as the King of Rock n Roll, as Elvis was the most kind hearted and least racial person you would ever find. And, I've already corresponded with the authors of this channel and they knew none of the information I have presented here and there is plenty more where that came from.
@Acidfree33
@Acidfree33 3 ай бұрын
Elvis needed a good script, no singing dancing wishy washy junk, good actors around him, and a chance to show the world he could be a serious actor..what a shame that apple splattered on the ground
@renitaperry5808
@renitaperry5808 Жыл бұрын
My mom had his Xmas album. I loved him singing white Xmas. Elvis wasn't racist he was cool with them. They didn't want him to mingle with them. 💯💯
@ronaldmartin3606
@ronaldmartin3606 Ай бұрын
Elvis didn't steal anything . For example : In order to sell blues , jazz , folk , or Rock N Roll , every singer had to be uniform with the style of the category . Elvis , like every other singer , sang in those categories using his own voice . He was able to do every popular style that sold and he used light sounds like love me tender to deep baritone sounds that he had as a gift from God . / RCA opened the door to rock n Roll when they signed Elvis which opened the door for Chuck Berry and all the famous Rock and Rollers before Elvis . / Elvis was not a Racist . A real racist would not have sang with black musicians as Elvis requested in the movie King Creole . A real racist wouldn't be seen with black people for their own prejudice reasons . Elvis loved it , you could see it in his performance and he opened the movie with the song CrawFish , a beautiful duet with a popular black woman not to mention the Sweet Inspirations he employed in his final concerts . Elvis Presley was a God gifted multialented genius who knew what the public wanted and gave it to them .
@jguarino
@jguarino 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t co-opt the culture… he was a part of black culture. He lived in black neighborhoods, his friends were black, he attended black churches. Elvis didn’t buy, license or manage royalties. You are stating a typical woke culture problem you place yourself in the situation 65 years ago and reflect on how you would HOPE you would act in that situation. You guys are Melba milk toast white hipsters cherry picking facts. There work wasn’t plundered. It was recorded by someone that was talented enough to make it popular. You said yourself each of those original black artists recorded their songs. No one bought them. It isn’t Elvis fault he was popular.
@Jokes_on_D
@Jokes_on_D 2 жыл бұрын
Lol no one bought the black artists music? That's hilarious, plenty of people bought their music but being banned from 90% of radio, kept out of thousands of stores, not allowed on TV, etc. They were never going to be rich or even able to do it full time. The music industry was gatekept against black artists. Unfortunately those artist missed the boat on the industry opening up. Elvis was aware of these artists and knew that they were in his shadow but only gave them a shout out every now and then. That's the point they're making in this video.
@mikhelBrown
@mikhelBrown 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jokes_on_D Exactly, that dude is an idiot and lives in a bubble. He who glorifies evil might prolly be evil too.
@randyharris3175
@randyharris3175 2 жыл бұрын
What has Don't be Cruel got to do with racism.
@anthonyfrazier8448
@anthonyfrazier8448 2 жыл бұрын
I mean you have Quincy Jones saying that he was racist and then you have James brown little Richard fats domino and cissy Houston which is Whitney Houston's mother she sang back up for him a member of the sweet inspirations saying that he treated them with the utmost respect buying them Cadillacs and houses so how can someone be racist and at the same time buy them Cadillacs and houses dude you need to get the facts straight before you go bashing someone who can't defend himself because they are dead instead of you criticizing him maybe you should clean up your own back yard if you're gonna have comments on your so called channel you need to do some research before you run your mouth just because one producer was is whatever jealous and envious of the man and says some devious crap against someone doesn't make true be like me saying that you are a mother beater and you're taking your mothers pension check every month does that mean that you're doing it hell no so when you're talking about Elvis you need to watch your mouth
@headwhop26
@headwhop26 2 жыл бұрын
All our sources are in the description. Thanks for watching!
@MartiFeliciani
@MartiFeliciani 7 ай бұрын
I forgot to say that Elvis recorded more than 600 songs... that's like three times what The Beatles have. A couple are bound to be just fine, and that's alright. That doesn't take anything from the really great songs that are still praised now.
@Radrook353
@Radrook353 9 ай бұрын
So black or East Asian opera singers who sing in the European opera style and become rich and famous are racists?
@GMAMEC
@GMAMEC Жыл бұрын
Quincey Jones is one person who has his own way of thinking. Perhaps they didn’t like each other, but it wasn’t because of race.
@SuperBeachbum74
@SuperBeachbum74 Жыл бұрын
Quincy may be jealous that Elvis chose Chips Moman to produce his 69 lp as Chips was far superior producer to Quincy . Quincy did pop, jazz and R n B , Chips could do anything and rebuilt lost careers !
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has professionally written on the life of Elvis Presley, I honestly don't know how you could find this video to be great as it absolutely slanders a man? A man who represented nothing but love and did many things for blacks and humanity, in general. In fact, every black musician who personally knew Elvis, totally loved him. Elvis' best friend growing up was a black gentleman named Sam Bell and the entire black community of Shake Rag, which was about a mile south of Sam's grandfather's home, loved him. As he was literally the only white child that would go there and they loved him because he treated them with nothing but deference and heartfelt respect. Elvis' whole group of childhood friends were black, as well, and he viewed himself as no different than them. In fact, when he and same would go to the movies, Elvis would climb into the black section so as to allow him and Sam to sit together. Or, he would help Sam come into the white section, as he saw no distinction with race. While this whole notion that he 'stole' black's music is actually ridiculous. As he certainly abided by all legal contracts and in regard to his rendition of Crudup's, 'That's Alright', BB King and Rufus Thomas have both talked extensively on it, saying that the whole sound and performance was like something that had never been heard before, which is precisely why Elvis later became so big. King also says quite directly that they got it quite right when they called him 'King,' so obviously it didn't just come from whites. Elvis, of course, was always very honest about his influences and even pointed out Fats Domino as the King of Rock and Roll. And Elvis certainly didn't invent Rock N Roll (as the first rock record was probably Ike Turner's 'Rocket 88'", but what he did do is soak up all the sounds of the Mississippi Delta and amalgamate them, naturally, in a way no one else had ever really heard. Because Elvis obviously derived his soulful side from the blues, but his sound also incorporated country music and both white and black southern gospel which gave America something unique they had never heard before. Then we hear people say he stole from Big Mama Thornton who had a fairly good hit with 'Hound Dog' prior to Elvis. But 'Hound Dog' was actually pitched to Elvis by the two white Jewish men wrote the song, Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller, and as we know, that record went on to sell many, many millions. Also, Elvis' version of 'Hound Dog' was nothing like Big Mama Thornton's. And I personally like her version of the song much better, but people obviously must make this an issue simply because Elvis had more success with the song. A song he didn't even really care for. It wasn't easy for Elvis to keep on pursuing his music career after 1954, either, because the racist whites of the community condemned him; preachers condemned him; city officials barred him from performing; and radio stations even boycotted his songs due to his singing race music and being in bed with the negro, as it was said. In fact, radio stations changed there whole type of programming to get rid of Elvis' music in an attempt, to keep it, and other black music from catching on. He also had innumerable death threats against him from ignorant, racist whites, and was physically attacked many times in those early years. However, the fact that he kept pushing forward helped open the doors for many other great black artists to step through. Prior to Elvis making it big at Sun Records, he also volunteered to help a black group, the Prisonaires, cut their biggest hit, Walkin' In the Rain.' As Elvis had a slight stutter and the lead singer of the Prisonaires even worse. However, after spending time with lead singer, Johnny Bragg, Elvis sat and mouthed the words to Johnny as the master cut was done. Hardly a racist, while he also visited the group, in prison, to offer assistance with lawyers, etc. This being something no white person would do, who wanted to maintain his career during those times. And who spent the longest time crying and whaling, as he sat next to Elvis' casket for hour upon hour, never wanting to leave his friend's side? James Brown. Hence, James Brown would hardly do that if Elvis were even remotely racist. This is all so incredibly wrong, but unfortunately because of Ray Charles and Quincy Jones, etc., people obviousy who didn't know Elvis and were clearly jealous to an extent, have told outright lies about Elvis being racist. At least with Jones, that is more than true, as he has told and continues to tell stories that are literally impossible to have happened because you can see that Elvis and/or others he claims were there at some so-called racist event weren't or never even met. As Elvis never met his famed songwriter Otis Blackwell, but Jones tells a racist story about the time he saw Blackwell with Elvis. A hard thing to do given they never met as Blackwell has made quite clear. Moreover, Blackwell - and many other black songwriters - made millions upon millions writing for Elvis. Elvis was also told, when planning a very lucrative set of concert dates at the Houston Astrodome, that he could 'leave the black girls home' and said, "Ok, but I won't be coming either," which quickly turned them around. Then, finally when they did arrive,so as to even further drive his point him as he was livid, he made sure to hire a beautiful blonde white girl to drive all of his black singers all throughout the infield to show they were the stars of his show and would be afforded ultimate respect. When I could go on, chapter and verse forever, with totally factual stories, but I would hope you get the point. Also, it's highly ironic, but the singer who was also conned out of most money in his life, was Elvis Presley. Also, one can even look up newspaper records from the mid-60s that showed Elvis decked a white man for using the 'N-word' in his presence.
@MarkRogersVOCFB
@MarkRogersVOCFB Жыл бұрын
So we're not allowed to be angry. We just have to nod our heads in agreement with your OPINION. Since you guys produce content with opinion, you need to be thick-skinned enough to take on counter opinions.
@danielharper1542
@danielharper1542 2 жыл бұрын
That was parker who demanded publishing and co writers rights not Presley's!
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 2 жыл бұрын
And, as much as I don't like Parker, it was a shrewd move in some ways and dumb in others. As the writers had a choice and by going with Elvis they would far more times than not make money that they would not have with a lesser known singer and many have spoken of it in the book 'Writing for the King." When, two, Parker also cost Elvis great songs with this business tactic.
@jguarino
@jguarino 2 жыл бұрын
Did he never record a white penned song? Oh yeah wait, Carl Perkins, blue suede shoes, Javier Vela Segovia, Jerry Leiber, and Mike Stoller hound dog, Jerry Lieber Love me, Mae Axton, Tommy Durden, Hound dog, Love me tender, Lee Rosenberg, Bernard Weinman, Too much, Kal Mann Teddy Bear, Jerry Leiber, and Mike Stoller Jailhouse Rock & Don’t, Bill Trader, A fool such as I, Aaron Schroeder Bing hunk o’love, Wally Gold, it’s now or never, Lou Handman, Are you lonesome tonight, Bert Kaempfert, Kay Twomey, Ben Weisman, Fred Wise, Wooden heart, Ernesto Di Curtis, Surrender, pomus Shuman, Marie’s the name, of his latest flame, Luigi Creatore, Hugo Peretti, George David Weiss, Can’t help falling in love with you. In fact, all but 4 of his top 20 number one hits (he had 30) were written by white authors. The four artists that wrote the other 4, Claude Demetrius, Otis Blackwell, Dave Bartholomew, john leaflike McFarland, received copy credits, and royalties. You seem upset that one artist that apparently was an amazing songwriter and a mediocre singer, didn’t make it big, is evidence Elvis success with the same song points to co-opting and racism. Again thanks for ignoring data , wearing your hipster shirts and telling your students what they want to hear. Probably really helping.
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 2 жыл бұрын
OK, you never responded to my other response, but you guys clearly have little knowledge of Elvis Presley and some type of axe to grind. But first, as to music in general as this word 'stealing' gets thrown around so often, when it's absurd, and it really needs to be dealt with. However, one must not confuse the art of borrowing, with the act of stealing. Stealing is stealing. In some respects, borrowing even ensures that the ‘life’ of a particular piece of music continues to exist, at least in some form. Its’ pretty well accepted that many things in the world of entertainment are to some extent, re-interpretations of something that has previously existed under a different guise. In music, however, the notion of certain songs being ‘based on’,’ heavily inspired by’ or ‘sounding incredibly similar’ to other pieces is inevitable. Generally speaking, this is no accident. This is a practice which has been carried out for centuries, going back to the folk tradition known as ‘borrowing’. ‘Borrowing’ is present in many genres: Country songs often use similar riffs and progressions to ‘typify’ a country song and many blues songs used similar rhyming patterns from country to express the ‘bluesy feel’ but you don't talk about that because it doesn't fit this absurd narrative. While let me educate you about Elvis Presley. BB King, Bobby Womack, Al Green, Sammy Davis Jr., and the list goes on and on as to great black entertainers who have all spoken of Elvis quite positively, all spoke of how great Elvis was, and said these racist comments are nonsense. And, of course, we recently had Quincy Jones trying to label Elvis as racist until that deck of cards all came falling down around him, as his most recent statements were compared to others, and showed what he more recently said could not have possibly be true. (So, he reminds me very much of you, though having a good deal of musical genius that you lack) Although, Elvis was at the forefront of taking the heat for performing and singing in a way that many felt was comparable to blacks, so for that reason - many blacks, too - such as Brook Benton, also, felt a kinship for Elvis because he stuck by his guns and defended his singing of what was called 'race music.' And, you define racism anyway you want, but when Elvis' best friend in life was Sam Bell, a black man, and given the things he both did for blacks, and everyone, Elvis Presley was the least color conscious person to ever live.
@Ran6ger
@Ran6ger 2 жыл бұрын
not reading all that.
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ran6ger No offense, but it's why so many people are ignorant on topics that they think they know they're talking about. It's a major problem in America, today, especially with our public school system.
@WhaleMilk
@WhaleMilk 2 жыл бұрын
@@christophertyler3425 average liberal
@christophertyler3425
@christophertyler3425 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhaleMilk Not quite sure what this means other than the makers of this video being typical liberals as if they are labeling Elvis Presley as even remotely racist given all the facts that exist, they truly have no idea what they are talking about!
@jamalwest7658
@jamalwest7658 2 жыл бұрын
@@christophertyler3425 I really don't give a shit what black artist Elvis might had been friends with, the fact remains, that Elvis got his start covering songs from black artist and made no effort to see that they were compensated and that's why ask chuck D said, "He was simple and plain"
@everett8811
@everett8811 2 жыл бұрын
It's not even debatable if he was racist if you knew his story. He wasn't.
@ChristopherT1
@ChristopherT1 Жыл бұрын
With that criteria then the NBA and NFL are racist by a majority of black players playing a game. What about Oprah? She didn’t come up with Television or the talk show. Your logic is flawed.
@pennyyoung3166
@pennyyoung3166 Жыл бұрын
Your review is not accurate watch the echo will never die who are you to make your assumptions you can say what you want but Elvis actions show he is not
@wendyvicodin8745
@wendyvicodin8745 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like this video, there are a lot of basic questions you don't answer, like would it have been better for those artists to die poor and unknown than it would have been to die poor and famous for Elvis ? Did any artist profit from black music without giving any credit and aren't they worse then him ? Are all the black artists saying Elvis opened a door for them wrong ? Are we all guilty of racism by profiting from racist institutions ? How not racist can a person get in this society ? Why would we care about Elvis Presley's racism ? I'm not saying that you should answer everything in 1 video but you definitely can't make a definitive decision without answering them first
@Radrook353
@Radrook353 9 ай бұрын
He meant Puerto Rican and African American collaborators not Puerto Rican and black collaborators since being Puerto Rican does not disqualify a person from being black.
@randallanthony1794
@randallanthony1794 7 ай бұрын
Elvis Presley wasn’t a rascist .he was a good guy
@robertpetersen2238
@robertpetersen2238 9 ай бұрын
Very good video, but I believe you guys strayed too far into the weeds while speaking the truth. Racism is institutionalized into American culture. To that extent, we’re all racist. I know enough about the recording industry to know it was corrupt in the early years, withholding revenue to black artists simply because they could get away with it. It’s a matter of public record, and reparations are essential. Was that Elvis’ fault? I’m not going to go that far. If you could simply say that Elvis was the beneficiary of a racist culture, of course he was. But was he personally racist? No! You are absolutely correct that he isn’t the King of Rock and Roll. And Elvis knew that too. I waiver back and forth between Chuck Berry and Little Richard for the title of King, but certainly not Elvis. Sister Rosetta Tharpe invented Rock and Roll, so she deserves all the credit in my opinion.
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube 9 ай бұрын
Great thoughts!
@randyharris3175
@randyharris3175 2 жыл бұрын
If you remember when Elvis recorded that's allright mommy they were about to break the session off.And then Elvis starts singing thats allright mommy and you're saying Elvis stole that song he had to have a upbeat song cant blame Elvis for singing it.Hell he didn't even like being called the King.
@dandydabberdude
@dandydabberdude 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@roelanddirker6489
@roelanddirker6489 Жыл бұрын
How much time this guy is taking to make clear that "yes really ! we do love his music, but hey, don't forget the structures of the time that made him. And only later made ways to good people like people like us, etc. etc". Not as interesting as you think it is, dear americans.
@thomaspgreen6302
@thomaspgreen6302 2 жыл бұрын
Was it Elvis or Lester Melrose that kept Arthur big boy Crudup's Royalties? Elvis wasn't the only person or even the first person to cover his songs. In addition, the Crudup's heir won a 3 million lawsuit over his royalties, Elvis wasnt being sued in it
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but Elvis Presley made himself and BB King, who should know, said as much. So did Rufus Thomas and they were both Memphians and said 'That's All Right Mamma' was like nothing anyone had done or heard before. When, too, 'That's Alright Mamma' is not the song that catapulted Elvis to stratospheric success, as that didn't happen until the white written 'Heartbreak Hotel' two years later. Moreover, the great Jackie Wilson also said (and all the men referenced are black of course) that black performers took more from Elvis than he ever took from them, or a quote very, very similar to that, as I paraphrased. While Elvis, also, after Wilson had a heart attack, later, paid for his nursing home bills until his death. And this is a racist? Big Mamma Thornton? Her song Hound Dog was written by two white Jewish men. The same white gentlemen who took the song to Elvis to record and Elvis made a massive hit of it. When, too, Elvis amalgamated black music, white country & influences from every direction into what he did. When we know, too, that the black music referred to also took from white folk music, as ALL MUSIC can be found to have influences from elsewhere. Elvis, too - before 1954 - even used to go into Sun and actually helped the Prisonaires lead singer, who also stuttered like Elvis, get through that and the Prisonaires were eventually able to record the great song 'Walking in the Rain' due to Elvis helping the lead singer, Johnny Bragg, mouth the words without stuttering. While this whole absurd channel says Elvis was a racist when he also went to see Bragg and the group, in prison, to offer them money for lawyers and other needs, as well. When, at this time, especially in the deep south as they were, that in and of itself could have killed a white person's career. The sneer, the presentation of the music, the hair, the unabandoned dancing style was all original, as Elvis admitted he couldn't dance, but just did what came naturally to him. And, the bottom line is, what made Elvis Presley such a big star, is again as BB King said, he had it all. He was tall; he was handsome; Johnny Cash called him the best rhythm guitarist he ever saw; and he absolutely had a tremendous voice, far better than Chuck Berry's or Little Richard's or Carl Perkins, or pretty much anyone. And it's his voice being so incredible, and because he sang so many genres of music so incredibly well, that made him the greatest selling solo artist in music history and it's not even close. Now, did Elvis break through FIRST, because he was white. I believe so, but that only opened up the doors to great black music to the general public who hadn't heard it before then. While Elvis went through hell and almost quit, such was the abuse he suffered from the churches, physical attacks, verbal attacks, death threats, and music stations literally refusing to play his music and breaking his record while changing their station's entire music format. I'm also a musical historian and write this, not because I am the biggest Elvis Presley fan in the world, but because everything I have said here is simply true. When Elvis went to great lengths, too, to credit black musicians referring to Fats Domino as the King of Rock n Roll, as Elvis was the most kind hearted and least racial person you would ever find. And, I've already corresponded with the authors of this channel and they knew none of the information I have presented here and there is plenty more where that came from.
@christophertyler6863
@christophertyler6863 Жыл бұрын
And Elvis never took anyone's royalties, thanks.
@sofiamiga
@sofiamiga 11 ай бұрын
Sorry, I watched a little more than half of your video, I couldn't listen to you anymore. I'm Mexican, perhaps I do not have the pulse of what racism was/is in the USA. But I'm a journalist and I think. Please, teachers, you want to apply 21st century ideas and values ​​of equality to a 20-year-old boy from the 1950's who himself was what you called "white trash." So Elvis at 20 had to dismantle the entire racist system on which the USA was founded? As Elvis responded when he was asked about his opinion of the Vietnam war at the 1972 press conference, he was just an entertainer and preferred to keep his opinions to himself. Elvis had magic, that's all. When local white radio stations released That's All Right Mama and played it over and over again at the request of listeners, they actually thought he was a black boy and loved him... until it was learned that he graduated from Humes Highschool they understood that he was white. Please, stop trying to apply current ideological trends to a boy who lived decades ago.
@dirtylemon3379
@dirtylemon3379 2 жыл бұрын
The bottom line; Elvis is the king because they could not promote a Black singer from in the south in 1954. So there really was no other way around it. It's no fault of Elvis. What exactly was he to do? Just sing white music? It's easy to say everybody back then should have been real nice and accepted Chuck Berry as the king. But there's no way you can go back to those days and change people's minds. There really is no realistic alternative as to what actually happened.
@Rewiretube
@Rewiretube 2 жыл бұрын
We agree! That's why we think we have an obligation to re-evaluate titles like "King of Rock n Roll" in the modern day and maybe re-distribute some of the credit, the same way we looked back on how the band Death deserved more recognition in the development of punk music, and Sister Rosetta Tharpe as a progenitor of rock n roll.
@dirtylemon3379
@dirtylemon3379 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rewiretube Some of my favorite music has always been pre Elvis, proto-rock and roll, R&B from late 40s early 50s. Even though it’s true those artists didn’t get the credit and recognition they deserved. I always thought, in the long run, the beginnings of rock ‘n roll was good for integration and equality. White kids and Black getting together for something in common. That’s why parents felt threatened. Their white kids were going to go down to a lower level. I think the music helped to let kids ignore that thinking and look at the other side differently.
@GrumpyFlyr1995
@GrumpyFlyr1995 3 ай бұрын
@@Rewiretube He was called the king because he had 17 number 1s on the pop charts over just 6 years and made rock and roll the de facto dominant popular music of the late 50s. If you really want to pay homage to great musicians like Chuck Berry or Rosetta Tharp, maybe try lifting them up instead of tearing Elvis down. It’s one thing to acknowledge the role that racism played in Elvis’ career and in the rise of rock music generally speaking. In fact, it is important for us today to understand how those dynamics played out. But it’s an entirely different thing to say the man was a racist. After watching your video I just feel sorry for the man. When he first came on the scene he was hung and burned in effigy for being too black and now that he’s dead he’s getting trashed for being too white. WTF is the guy supposed to do? This is the sort of thing that causes otherwise sensible and sensitive people to tune out serious conversations about race in this country. The shame of it is that you are right about racism and cultural issues but by trashing the man, you lost your credibility with an audience that needs to understand these issues. You could have done so much good with this video if you hadn’t gone for the clickbait title and take
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