Was Final Fantasy X The Last GREAT Final Fantasy Game?

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Erek Ladd

Erek Ladd

Күн бұрын

There's been a lot of main entries in the series since Final Fantasy X - but was it the last truly magical game?
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Intro 0:00
Story Summary 1:00
Memorable moments 2:11
Tech talk 4:57
Battle system 7:34
The world 9:35
In comparison 10:44
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@femtrooper
@femtrooper Ай бұрын
Final Fantasy X literally blew my mind when it came out. It was the reason I bought a PS2 at the time instead of a Game Cube and it was my first Final Fantasy game!
@GrigoriRasputin
@GrigoriRasputin Ай бұрын
10 was the last time I feel like the game "felt like" Final Fantasy. I played, at least a little bit, but truly I think the loss of Sakaguchi's voice in the following games is why they're so different. New voices telling new types of stories with their own visions, its not a bad thing, its just why 10 is such a pivot point. Not to mention now we have online games, that's sure different. I wish they didn't use mainline numbering on XI and XIV but it is what it is :)
@MightyPinecone
@MightyPinecone Ай бұрын
I think that, besides the combat, 16 did a good job of feeling like final fantasy. It also felt a little game of thrones tbh, but there were great references to the series and musical motifs that returned that hadn’t been present for at least 20 years. Actually the vibe I got from 16 was things that were good about 12 but improved upon. The loss of Uematsu as the main composer definitely attributed to the subsequent games feeling less like FF, but the fact that 12 was in Ivalice still made it feel like FF to me.
@midgetsparkle
@midgetsparkle Ай бұрын
I had played Legend in GB as a kid, I started on my cousins save, he was under leveled and I didn't get it, so I thought FF wasn't for me. My boss at E Games, when FF X came out, told me to buy it. Two weeks later I crawled out of my room a life long FF fan. I went back and played them all. Ten get me into jrpgs. I'm forever grateful.
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
That’s a great story!! Thanks for sharing that. FFX hit a lot of people are the right time I think!
@invisiblebiscuits
@invisiblebiscuits Ай бұрын
I think FF12 is very underrated, but I agree it lacked the iconic moments and music that previous entries had in spades.
@hellfrozenphoenix13
@hellfrozenphoenix13 Ай бұрын
Agreed. I think 12s combat is about the best in the FF series imo (haven't played 16 yet, tbf) and the gambit system should frankly be used by WAY more games than it is. Customizing the AI of your allies is legit incredible!
@moloko912
@moloko912 Ай бұрын
Ff10 was great. Sure it was linear sure there are no world map. But the story was on point. The characters and dialogues was on points
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@michaelkarlsson5966
@michaelkarlsson5966 Ай бұрын
except for the lousy voice "acting" I loved FFX
@MightyPinecone
@MightyPinecone Ай бұрын
@@michaelkarlsson5966to be fair, there was no good voice acting in video games up to that point.
@JoshWiniberg
@JoshWiniberg Ай бұрын
​​@@MightyPineconeExcept MGS, perhaps.
@tyleracuna2567
@tyleracuna2567 Ай бұрын
7 Rebirth is really something special. I know it’s not mainline but I feel that I should bring it up
@jprwilliams1
@jprwilliams1 21 күн бұрын
I've spent more time on this game, both in terms of single (200+ hours) and multiple playthroughs (likely 1000+) than any other game in the franchise. Don't get me wrong, I love VII and it will likely forever be my favourite, but in terms of world building, character building and progression (for the most part anyway) and the levelling system, but this game will forever hold a special place in my catalogue and my heart. The ending of this seriously killed me, like real, actual tears. No other game has done that to me
@sabin10
@sabin10 Ай бұрын
Sakaguchis style is what gave Final Fantasy it's distinct feel but for me, t's an Uematsu soundtrack that differentiates Final Fantasy from other RPGs. Without his music you might as well call these games something else.
@retrobrandon
@retrobrandon Ай бұрын
I hear you on Final Fantasy XIV... but it really is one of the best in the entire series. The story and characters are just something else. And you can play for free up to level 70 or something like that. If you can ever find it within yourself to check it out, I'd highly recommend it. Gameplay is obviously different, but XIV is definitely better in story and characters. NOTHING against X, I freakin love X. It's just XIV is so good. Anyway, great video! Love seeing more of your stuff!
@uppernimbus
@uppernimbus Ай бұрын
Great video and discussion! FFX looks absolutely gorgeous, gotta love the tropical setting! And yes I know, I still haven't played this series yet 🤣
@shadowofmemorieswiki
@shadowofmemorieswiki Ай бұрын
Yes - Peak FF is 6-10 for me! 12's story was lacking and terribly paced. 13 trilogy (I like) was too experimental - especially Lighting returns 11 & 14 are MMO's... 15 was a mess and incomplete with DLC & season pass 2 cancelled. 16 was okay but combat was basic and game structure lacked a sense of adventure.
@lazydgsf7429
@lazydgsf7429 Ай бұрын
Shit, I’ll bite. I was a big FFX fan. Long story short I was disappointed with 12 and 13. I hated 13. Despised it. I decided to try 13 again last year because it was cheap on series X. In 2024 I really like 13. So I picked up 13-2 and Lightning returns but haven’t gotten to them yet. I prefer X. But 13 is the last great FF. It was the last time Square had the balls to go with their own vision. Yeah, it has problems, and not the greatest FF, but it was the last pure FF. The last great FF. I’ll try a sub. Solid video.
@RadioMike
@RadioMike Ай бұрын
I'm one of the rare people who discovered Tidus and Wakka from Kingdom Hearts. Had no idea they (or Cloud, Leon, Yuffie, Sephiroth etc) were Final Fantasy characters until I delved a bit deeper. Went and played FFX and really enjoyed it.
@nishquikpops
@nishquikpops Ай бұрын
I keep saying I'm gonna play 10 and I'm really hoping I have some time this year to delve into it bc it looks really fun and right up my alley! 7 and 9 were great but the gameplay and story of 10 feel like they'll really resonate with me!
@uppernimbus
@uppernimbus Ай бұрын
I'm probably gonna make FFX my first Final Fantasy since I love my tropical themes!
@nishquikpops
@nishquikpops Ай бұрын
@@uppernimbus I've heard that's a good starting point!
@hardcoor17
@hardcoor17 Ай бұрын
I love this game and agree that it's great. That being said, I also really like 12, 14 and FF7 Remake/Rebirth (if that counts) so can't say 10 is the last great game. Biggest gripe with this game is how hard to platinum it is with that damn lightning dodging and late game grinding to fill out the Sphere Grid. Story is top notch though!
@GenerationPixel
@GenerationPixel Ай бұрын
At work, so I'll have to watch later, but the answer is a concrete yes from me 😎 *Several hours later* What you said, with the exception of Blitzball, I love Blitzball and have always wanted Square to release a stand-alone Blitzball game, seriously. I'm a little weird, I know 😂
@rikux27
@rikux27 Ай бұрын
Based solely on your click bait title, FF12 was excellent, so please sit down. 😂
@travisbplank
@travisbplank Ай бұрын
The simple answer is yes, yes it is the last game that had the Final Fantasy feel, even if it missed the high mark of earlier entries. Thenfollowing games may be good or bad or whatever, but they are nearly unrecognizable as Final Fantasy games for me. They're just different franchises with Final Fa tasy slapped on the box. They've done this since the very early days (famously with Final Fantasy Legends), but it was usually done as a side project like Dirge of Cerberus or Crystal Chronicles. Now I feel the series has absolutely no identity and the fanbase is more about corporate loyalty than any kind of qualitative examination of the new entries. I imagine the next Final Fantasy could be a dating sim starring a middle-aged, bald guy and the fanbase would insist that "this has always been Final Fantasy" because the guy draws a chocobo while bored in a loading screen.
@feiitogaming
@feiitogaming Ай бұрын
Awesome video Erek. While I enjoyed every FF after X and XIV is one of my favorite games of all time, I still agree that X was the last true masterpiece in the series for all the reasons you mentoined. Of course that doesn't mean 11-16 are bad games by any means - I think you made that very clear - but X was just so much more special. The only thing I will always hate about X is the grind for the ultimate weapons hahaha. That was tedious af 😂
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
For sure!! XI-XVI are all great in their own right. I did really love XIV but I might need some more time to really digest the game. Also need to play the rising tide dlc!! I particularly love X tho and nothing else has topped it yet for me in the post sakaguchi games!
@michaelkarlsson5966
@michaelkarlsson5966 Ай бұрын
worst for me in X was the voice "acting", talk about tedious! And Tidus was also tedious! Would've loved Luna as the main character instead. Or Auron :)
@Amaduality
@Amaduality Ай бұрын
@@michaelkarlsson5966I’d argue Yuna is the main character, while Tidus is the point of view character. Analyzing the story from Yuna’s point of view makes the story even more fascinating.
@rodflounder
@rodflounder Ай бұрын
You summed up my feeling on this matter. X was the last final fantasy I enjoyed until 7 remake and XVI personally. Growing up in the 90s and playing the snes and ps1, X felt right to me. i cant say the same for 12,13,15. Great video
@yozzu5101
@yozzu5101 Ай бұрын
World of final fantasy quite good too
@shepherdstar14
@shepherdstar14 Ай бұрын
Final Fantasy X was that one Final Fantasy that stays with you for years after you play it. Same with XIII only it stays with you for different reasons. For me it was the love story, but for many X also had a great combat system, XIII also had a pretty good story, but the gameplay was remembered for being slow and inconsistent.
@MightyPinecone
@MightyPinecone Ай бұрын
Really? Cuz I thought the gameplay was the best part about 13. I thought the story and characters were forgettable at best.
@RedMage409
@RedMage409 Ай бұрын
Yes. 1-10 was the golden age of FF. Everything that came after pales in comparison.
@SwiftGuyver.
@SwiftGuyver. Ай бұрын
12 is definitely better than 1-3 & 8 though and 14 has arguably the best storytelling in the entire series.
@valleyofthedawlz
@valleyofthedawlz Ай бұрын
I remember being a kid when this game released and everyone was cosplaying as Tidus & Yuna 😂
@JephPlaysGames
@JephPlaysGames Ай бұрын
While I've enjoyed games that came out after X, I can't help but think that it was the last game that truly felt like FF.
@st.anselmsfire3547
@st.anselmsfire3547 Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed 12, but I understand people who didn't. I loved 10's environment and plot.
@zadi10gaming16
@zadi10gaming16 Ай бұрын
My favourite game, so unique and spherography changed gaming forever
@heathrileyy
@heathrileyy Ай бұрын
No. 12 is amazing ❤
@matthewlin1182
@matthewlin1182 Ай бұрын
Since the PS2 Final Fantasy X Square Enix and Final Fantasy X-2 The Best Role Playing Game that are Turn Base One of the Best Game From Square Enix and The PS3 PS4 Nintendo Switch Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remasters By Square Enix best RPG that were turn base in the Combat Battle System of the Game compare to others Final Fantasy Game Series Nowadays.
@BulmaSan-pq4wv
@BulmaSan-pq4wv Ай бұрын
I posted not too long again that FFX was the last good FF game, and that FF12 was the last okay FF game. Got some heat for it, too! I never get bored or impatient replaying it, though. FFX is like reading a good book that you love. You know it inside and out, and yet somehow it's still fresh.
@boyka6695
@boyka6695 Ай бұрын
"10s opening is the most iconic in all final fantasy" Laughs in liberti fatali
@djn6962
@djn6962 Ай бұрын
XI and XII were amazing games. X-XII was the best era (the ps2) era of final fantasy.
@heretakemeinstead
@heretakemeinstead Ай бұрын
Bonus points for pronouncing Tidus correctly. But, everything you said is just because of nostalgia, despite your attempt to say you were not doing that. The same for all of the comments agreeing with you. I started playing Final Fantasy with 7 but 10 was probably the first one I was old enough to enjoy and beat, so I do have a lot of nostalgia for it. But I don't think it's the last great Final Fantasy. I'd say it's top 3 Final Fantasys maybe but I think 13 is the objective best game, even though my favorite is 9. But 12 was great, 15 had it's moments despite a questionable production and somewhat disappointing launch. 16 was a great jump for the series becoming a true action RPG, even if I wish the combat had more depth. Even most of the spin-offs are great. Crisis Core and the Remake series (so far) are some of my favorite Final Fantasy games. Hell, even 15 Pocket Edition was a solid mobile game. People who don't like them are just people who won't give them a chance because it's not the same as it was when they were kids, and that's pure nostalgia blindness.
@bushikao
@bushikao Ай бұрын
your really missing out on great FFs by not plsying any of the MMO FFs, FFXI in particular is my 2nd fav FF, behind only FFXII, but considering your lack of time and the fact ffxi is no longer in its hayday, it prolly wouldnt hit the same anyway, but man, back in the pre-Ah Urgan days, FFXI was all-thought consuming, and quite frankly the most representative game in the series, aka despite it’s online trappings, was unmistakably a FF game
@juanmanuelesis9797
@juanmanuelesis9797 22 күн бұрын
To give context I start playing FF main line games in 2015 with FF7 on PS4 (still need 12, 13 and a PS5 jeje), so I do not have this "sense of wonder" from the original releases of almost every single game (FF15 and FF16 being the only main line FF which I enjoy this feelings of hype and release). Speaking chronologically the last great; or the last recurrent great FF game, was FF9. On the FF10 side, the iconic moments, sphere grid and the tech points are the only things I am fully agree with because the rest the game did not live to the hype, legacy or reputation. The battle system make me wish turn-based FF games never come back (something not even the NES FF make me feel... and I love what I played on SNES FF and FF7 turn-based wise), on characters only Yuna is worth saving (I was specting more from Auron, Jetch and Riku), music should not be that of a let down (Contest Of Aeons and Someday the dream will end gorgeous) and the world... do not know what to think of it yet. Is unfortunately but I expect more from this FF game that is even recommended as one of your first entry in the series :(
@A203D
@A203D Ай бұрын
FF10 was the high watermark of the turn based phase of the series. I feel in terms of great Final Fantasy's then I would agree FF10 was the last great FF until Final Fantasy 7 Remake totally smashed it out of the park and now they continued with FF7 Rebirth which is the first 90+ Final Fantasy in decades.
@infiniteaaron
@infiniteaaron 28 күн бұрын
No. FFXII is in my top three favorite games of all time. Then again, I am a bit biased as FFX was the first game I bought for myself, then FFXII when it came out. I'm sure I'm not the only one who calls XIII the first really terrible mainline game.
@michaelkarlsson5966
@michaelkarlsson5966 Ай бұрын
X and X-2 was great games indeed, but XII was good too and I really like the XIII series
@madkaiser4887
@madkaiser4887 Ай бұрын
I mean, is it really the last great Final Fantasy game? I mean....Have you heard of the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV? With an expanded free trial which you can play through the entirety of A Realm Reborn, Heavensward and the award-winning Stormblood expansion up to level 70 for free with no restrictions on playtime?
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
Here we go 🤣🤣🤣
@othergrimm6592
@othergrimm6592 Ай бұрын
Yep. I haven't had fun with any mainline Final Fantasy games since 10, and I've pretty much given up on the series at this point. I didn't bother with 15 or 16, since I didn't see a single thing that looked interesting or fun...
@grahfkarate1799
@grahfkarate1799 Ай бұрын
I agree mostly with this statement but I have an analogy. In heavy metal everyone argues when Metallica sold out. Some people think it’s when they cut their hair, some people say on black album, some say when they made a music video, some even say after their first album. It’s all subjective in my opinion. I remember when FF10 came out and I had friends refuse to play it because it had voice acting and didn’t have a world map.
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
Definitely subjective but I think they went 100% commercial status with the black album and that’s OK. Get that bread 💰 God knows I’d do the same thing 😂 Great analogy!
@michaelkarlsson5966
@michaelkarlsson5966 Ай бұрын
Metallica sold-out when they "returned" to old style music. It's like admitting that they don't have anything more to offer, just lame repeats of past grandeur. My opinion of course. Same thing happend to many bands like them; Kreator, Megadeth, Testament to name a few...
@spydermag5644
@spydermag5644 Ай бұрын
I have been a gamer for over 40 years. I played text games from infocom, and Ultima and Wizardy. I bought a ps and FFVII on the same day. I was hooked. I was a day one buyer of all FF main games since then. What I think X has is that it was the first FF game with voice acting. It also had the right amount of minigames. Some were fun and others were downright annoying. I am looking at you yellow birds. I replayed X/X-2 on my PS4 and PS5. I have platinum all of the main Ff games 8-16 including the X-2 and 13-2 and 13-3. While X is my favorite for story I really enjoyed the combat system is 12. I have enjoyed 15, 16, Remake and Rebirth but I have not like the evolution of the combat system. Also the amount of mini games that are required to play to get the platinum in Rebirth and the story gets lost while playing them.
@Snow43214
@Snow43214 Ай бұрын
I just love X I can't complete it without then moving onto X-2 to bring back Tidus On any given day if someone asks me my fave game, it's always an inner turmoil toss up between VII and X I enjoy all the titles pre X but IV - X was just an amazing run Inner ten year old me will forever be at Woolies excited to buy FFX
@PeterKlausRothe
@PeterKlausRothe Ай бұрын
Final Fantasy XIV (despite a slow start), is probably the best FF we've ever had. But critically and in terms of sheer audacious scope, FF 7 Rebirth is definitely up there
@rabadeuce814
@rabadeuce814 Ай бұрын
100% the last great, maybe even good Final Fantasy. It's so weird to think it's been over 20 years since I enjoyed this series... I remember when SE did the PS3 tech demo of FFVII, and all I wanted was a remake of that game with updated graphics and the battle system from FFX, or something akin to it. Instead we got decades of disappointment.
@bullythebull260
@bullythebull260 Ай бұрын
I have played most of the games (not 2-3) but I actually like the newer games. Were they flawless? No, but same can be said about the older games as well, and I think it is very easy to romanticise about a time where there were almost no competitors in the west to final fantasy compared to today where there are so many great games being released. I would say that the true "black sheep" is 13 but the rest are nice 😊.
@kyranina
@kyranina Ай бұрын
haven’t watched but final fantasy is still great 💀 xvi was an amazing game. the story was captivating and the gameplay was great when you took the time to learn it. final fantasy hasn’t fallen off it just took some time off (mainly bc of xv which was still a good game)
@Elohist2009
@Elohist2009 Ай бұрын
I remember seeing the advertisements for X-2 and feeling a little insulted that the developers thought that fans of FFX really wanted to see Yuna in hot pants. I understand that her and Rikku’s new design were meant to express their maturation or whatever, but unless Yuna somehow got hair extensions, there is no believable way to explain how her hair grew long enough in two years to be braided down to her legs. And even if I overlooked all that, the idea of Yuna going from a sweet, kimono wearing Pokémon trainer, to a pop idol gun ninja was such a hard turn for me that I couldn’t take it seriously as a proper sequel. I would’ve had more respect for Square if they just called X-2 what it was-a spin-off. Instead they brought in a new character out of nowhere, and changed Yuna’s entire play style. I’m fine with her not being a summoner anymore but she was a solid spellcaster. And while her sudden weapon change makes sense as an Al Bhed, it didn’t feel justified for her to become nimble and gun proficient as though she had wanted to be that kind of character all along. It would be like seeing Cloud in Advent Children with blue hair, and a leather jacket with skinny jeans and a t-shirt, and he now wields a magic wand instead of a sword. I think it all went downhill from FFX, from their foray into “sequels” to MMOs that I had no money, time or resources to play (and I came from the StarCraft/Diablo era), and all the changes in between that no one ever asked for. And don’t get me started on the dress sphere system; just because a battle system is fun and intuitive doesn’t mean it’s good, if it’s out of place. But I still hold to this day their biggest mistake was deciding to make sequels a thing.
@sanostargalaxy
@sanostargalaxy Ай бұрын
I remember seeing they had originally planned to make the game a prequel, and feature Braska , Aaron and Jecht, but they changed their mind when they felt like a 3 man party wasn't really "progressive" enough and planned to make a sequel instead with an all female cast. Yuna having dual pistols was inspired by Lara Croft. Seems like they didn't understand how to actually be "progressive" with it though
@Amaduality
@Amaduality Ай бұрын
I believe the Squaresoft and Enix merger about a year or two post FFX’s development brought about a change in Square’s game development philosophy, from creating games with a truly artistic vision and taking risks being first in mind, to profit being the number one motive. This was the time the original creator of Final Fantasy, Hironobu Sakaguchi, left the company. He was always adamant during his tenure that regardless of whether there was a prospect of financial success, the numbered Final Fantasy games should have no sequels, that each should have its own contained complete story. All that changed under new management after the Square Enix merger, and the games suffered for it.
@dakotawinston7677
@dakotawinston7677 Ай бұрын
Short answer: yes
@adamorth5335
@adamorth5335 Ай бұрын
12:28 well, you got it. Thanks for not just jumping on the hate-wagon for views
@Fitz0fury
@Fitz0fury Ай бұрын
Pretty misleading I'm general. 12 13 and 15 are the only entries if you are ignoring GREAT mmo titles. And I'd argue that if you think 13 is bad then you should think 10 is bad. So either 9 is last good main line non mmo. Or 14 is the last good final fantasy.
@HybridAngelZero
@HybridAngelZero Ай бұрын
While I certainly don't think FFX was the last "great" game in the series, I would say XII matches and exceeds it in many areas, and Tactics Advance is truly excellent, what X *is* is that last game before the release of Spirits Within, Sakaguchi's departure, and the massive shift from Squaresoft to Square Enix. It's when we stopped getting a new numbered FF game every year or so. It really was the end of an era, cliché as that may sound. FF would be great after X, but it certainly wouldn't be the same
@garrettstickel1189
@garrettstickel1189 Ай бұрын
i mean lets forget halo 2 halo 3 mass effect uhhh warcraft 3 doom civiliazation supreme commander list goes on
@ETHomerin
@ETHomerin Ай бұрын
I wouldn't call it the last great FF game, but it was the last of their big bar raisers when it came to stand alone main game titles, if that makes sense. Here's something you won't hear many fans say: I thought that X-2.5 the price of eternity, the episode 'The Last Mission,' and FFX - will - redeemed the ending of X-2. On its own, X-2's conclusion seemed to reverse everything X taught us, even though it was a fun game. These last entries indicate a heavy price for bringing back those who we have lost, and I thought it was appropriate to double down on X's message. An unknown but grim looking horizon for Spira, as well as Tidus and Yuna, seems more appropriate for a connected universe to VII with future when Shinra's descendants would one day make it to Gaia. Who knows what happened in between these stories. I think a lot of players didn't like what followed X-2 because they saw it as tearing up Tidus and Yuna, but to me, X-2's ending had been doing that.
@Podcastsportscape
@Podcastsportscape Ай бұрын
I think a lot of people’s reasoning for saying that 10 is the last great FF game has a lot to do with nostalgia. Games feel different when you’re younger, especially final fantasy games and as the games evolve they’ve changed a lot since the PS1 games and X. I didn’t grow up with any FF games so I have a much different perspective then a lot of the older fans, for example I think 8 is a legitimately awful game and the OG 7 is incredibly overrated but I absolutely adore FF16.
@TheMytherian
@TheMytherian Ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s unfair to say 10 was the last great ff, but I really enjoyed 12 and 13. For me it’s 13-2 and onward that have struggled to maintain an identity within the ff world. 13-2 and LR had terrible story and structure, 15 was easily my least favourite ff game apart from maybe 2 considering the base release was pitiful, and while 16 had a good story the combat was too devil may final fantasy for me to get the ff vibe. 10 is probably the last top tier ff
@hugbuzzard
@hugbuzzard Ай бұрын
FFX wowed me when it came out, but that’s because of all it did. It was a pioneer for sure, but by the end it lost its’ luster. I actually think the story isn’t great, the characters are ok at best, and the music is alright. I didn’t mind the linearity so much, the sphere grid system, but the lack of a world map was a bummer. For me, the best thing about the game is its’ combat system. Probably one of the best in the series, but man I just don’t love this game. I’ve beaten it 3 times over 20 years and I just don’t love it. I recently got it AGAIN for the switch…maybe I’ll like it this time? Probably not, but it’s worth a try.
@JoshWiniberg
@JoshWiniberg Ай бұрын
Yes.
@AdventStrife
@AdventStrife Ай бұрын
Rebirth and Remake are fantastic so not to me and i find 10 overrated tbh but 9 is my GOAT i also enjoyed 16 and im one of those strange people that think 13-2 is amazing too. If we are counting 14 too the story in a few of the expansions are better than a lot of the mainline non mmo stories.
@sirgoof6526
@sirgoof6526 Ай бұрын
As a true final fantasy fan there is always a reason to love every single entry in the series so to say X was the last great game is shitting on everyone else who loves the franchise
@djbawb
@djbawb Ай бұрын
Lol. Teetus
@axel88er19
@axel88er19 Ай бұрын
I love Remake and especially Rebirth. I am yet to play XVI but I am happy with the series now. Didn't like XII and XIII at all.
@dtcharo
@dtcharo Ай бұрын
For me, IX is the capstone/bookend of the franchise. The usage of voice acting adds a layer of separation that impedes my immersion and the franchise hasn't been the same since. Plus, I found my first playthrough of FF X to be a bit of a slog and didn't appreciate it more until going back and replaying it again sometime last year. Even though I find it to be a mid-tier FF game I can see that it has the elements that compose a great game so more power to you if you happen to think it's great.
@egocide9034
@egocide9034 Ай бұрын
Yep, nailed it about the voice acting. I recently came to realize it's probably a large part in why I have such a strong affinity for more retro games (nostalgia aside). Noticed it while watching playthroughs of FF7 Remake/Rebirth. Among the myriad of things I dislike about them, that certain immersion and quirkiness I adore about the original was lost with the voice acting.
@ian_sear
@ian_sear Ай бұрын
X was the last one I finished so maybe it's true. Have played XII, XIII and XV but never got even close to the ending.
@DScott-nk1lo
@DScott-nk1lo Ай бұрын
I played 16 thought it was pretty good, playing 15 now, think it's pretty good. Honestly. I think 12 is a great game, but not a masterpiece 10/10 like FFX was
@chickenfillets
@chickenfillets Ай бұрын
You're a final fantasy
@uppernimbus
@uppernimbus Ай бұрын
👁️👄👁️
@ssmrgrim
@ssmrgrim Ай бұрын
I will say that 14 might have an insane time commitment but at least story wise it holds with any other Final Fantasy story as being absolutely fantastic. But on a full package level X might be the last great one. XIIs gameplay is fantastic but the story is ok at best and it has far and away the weakest soundtrack. 13 is a mess even if 13-2 is better than it has any right to be. 15 and 16 sit in an odd transition territory and both I fell will be looked at better over time. And 11 and 14 show the limits and cracks in the foundation of MMO gameplay despite strong stories in both cases.
@biggsg1934
@biggsg1934 Ай бұрын
As much as I enjoy Final Fantasy X, it's in the middle of the pack as far as my favorite FFs go. I enjoyed the exploration and sense of scale in FFXII a lot more. I also feel it's unfair that FFX gets a pass for being so linear while FFXIII is crucified for it. The battle system and story of X are high-water marks for the franchise, no doubt, but I have loved every entry in the mainline series (non-MMO) for one reason or another, and I respectfully disagree that FFX was the last great game in the series. (I wouldn't call Lightning Returns or FFXV great games, as I find them to be incredibly flawed but enjoyable games.) Between FFVII Remake & Rebirth, as well as FFXVI, Final Fantasy is in the best place it's been in years.
@zzzzzygaming
@zzzzzygaming Ай бұрын
Idk what ur talking about with the thumbnail and intro. FFVII Rebirth is a masterpiece. xD
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
Correct, but it's part of the FFVII universe which is why I did not mention it. I loved Remake/Rebirth!
@zzzzzygaming
@zzzzzygaming Ай бұрын
@@ErekLadd ahh I see! I havent played 16 yet but heard it's good too no? Great video btw. You made me go and recommend it to my friend to also experience this journey in Spira 🤩
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
@@zzzzzygaming 16 is very very good!
@misterbxiv
@misterbxiv Ай бұрын
Yes, 10 was great, and 12-13-15-16 have all been downhill from there. 16 is button mash through spectacle fights, then do mmo side quests til the next big primal “wow” moment. It sucked. For all the work they put into it, the world felt tiny, and the characters were cardboard tropes
@gib84gaming4
@gib84gaming4 Ай бұрын
Nope lol. This one made me fall off FF a bit. I found it pretty boring and lacking, because it was the first foray into the then next gen and it just didnt hit for me...and it took away the world map which really soured the experience. Still havent gone back, but I really should 👍
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
I’d say give it another shot! It’s definitely a lot more linear than previous ones. Well, it *is* linear 😂 No world map like the others is definitely not ideal for everyone but it’s never bothered me. Thanks for watching!!
@gib84gaming4
@gib84gaming4 Ай бұрын
@@ErekLadd TBF, in my old age, I am much more interested in linear games, but back then it seemed like a backstep (except graphically obvs lol) I do need to go back ✌️😁
@irvyne6111
@irvyne6111 Ай бұрын
I’d say FF9 was the last of the best. FF10, with its linearity, painful voice acting and less melodious OST, felt like a big step down IMHO.
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
Fair enough!! I think this one hit me at the right time in life to really leave an impression. Could definitely be argued that Final Fantasy IX was the last truly traditional one in the series though too.
@moloko912
@moloko912 Ай бұрын
The english dub sucked. Not the japanese
@michaelkarlsson5966
@michaelkarlsson5966 Ай бұрын
FFVII and FFIX are truely great but so over hyped and nostalgia tinged for many of the fans.
@euroovca25
@euroovca25 Ай бұрын
its all a matter of taste, i hated ff9 with a passion.
@moloko912
@moloko912 Ай бұрын
@@euroovca25 I loved ff9 but the 1st 2 discs. The 3rd disc was very "meh"
@4andrewforbes
@4andrewforbes Ай бұрын
X is my all time favorite among the series, followed by Rebirth. X has so much great content going for it that its own issues are few and far between (Kimahri not an interesting character and the mini games aren’t that great either). The mainline entries after this have suffered from their own development problems that affected their overall quality (12 didn’t go further into its ideas nor developed party further but I enjoyed the combat, 13’s execution left much to be desired due to story and design choices but was visually pretty with a good score and introduced stagger system, 15 literally needed a Royal Edition to flesh out more than it’s vanilla edition and yet the story/combat couldn’t still match the dynamic of its party due to development problems, and while I definitely enjoyed 16 it has some story elements that weren’t fleshed out further as it went further and the RPG elements left much to be desired (I don’t play 14 but the fact that it had to start over again after horrible first attempt to become the best comeback in gaming says a lot).
@plus6749
@plus6749 Ай бұрын
Exactly how I feel! X is my favorite FF of all time and I'm currently playing VII Rebirth and it's already my second favorite game. I'm of the opinion that both linear and open world games can be good or bad and that one is not intrinsically better than the other. X is a very well executed linear game and VII Rebirth is a perfect mix of both concepts. XIII is flawed for sure, but I think it's massively underrated and to me it probably has the most engaging battle system in the series. People that say the game plays itself haven't played past the first few chapters. I agree it shouldn't take that long, but once all the mechanics become available, XIII's combat is sublime!
@mindseyemusicreview
@mindseyemusicreview Ай бұрын
@1:25 spoilers dude Jesus 😅😅😅
@tobiassjogren7491
@tobiassjogren7491 Ай бұрын
9,10, 12
@preposteroussvideos
@preposteroussvideos Ай бұрын
No,people are just blinded by nostalgia 12 15 and 16 and even 14 as an mmo are amazing games
@AxeMain
@AxeMain Ай бұрын
FF14 rules
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
I’m sure it does!
@donguapo7862
@donguapo7862 Ай бұрын
Not if youre including rebirth, then no ffx is not the last...but its kinda unfair to compare since rebirth is part 2 of 3 massive games 😂😂😂
@Tenpouin
@Tenpouin Ай бұрын
I like FFX, but for me XII was the last great FF, probably my favorite overall even. Everything after XII is hot garbage (XIV is irrelevant since I don't play MMOs and would never pay a subscription to play a game).
@vsolyomi
@vsolyomi Ай бұрын
Nope. My hot take: the only great FF to date is probably VII. Every other one is quite flawed and often sloppily put together, and it's not necessarily a bad thing. They were very experimental and pushed the genre forward. That said, X isn't one of those. The last to be that was VIII, the trainwreck it was. X brought nothing new to the table maybe except the game being a big tube start to finish. Story was great, I agree, maybe the most innovative part. Graphics for the time were mindblowing but they don't ever make a game. Sphere grid is a terrible idea, never revisited (ok, XII did it and it was better there), visible turn order and and battle party swap was done before and are somewhat underutilized, battle UI is terrible with menus growing like cancer by the end. And I believe everything starting IX was a rehash and re-imagining of older ideas and mixing in other genre mechanics. XII was a single player MMO, XIII seems to have lived and died by its battle system (mostly died..), XV and VII:R are just action games with RPG mechanics. None of the FFs are bad, even FFII. Almost none of them lives up to greatness.
@mophead8096
@mophead8096 Ай бұрын
12 is much better
@sorinnoctis652
@sorinnoctis652 26 күн бұрын
Kinda disappointed with this video because this was more about how great FFX was vs actually answering the question... then admitting that you haven't really engaged with the newer games. Especially considering that you said you would try to approach this from a non nostalgic lense. if you want my take on this question i'll answer it as honest as I can. FFX at the time of release was just as divisive as the games that came after it. In fact all the golden era games no matter how great they were had some level of divisiveness. Specifically 8 and less so with 9 and 7 even though they had their fair share of criticism. I remember when FFX got slammed for its bad voice acting and linear world. People at the time thinking Tidus being a dream character was silly. It wasn't until a little over half a decade when FFX was looked at as fondly. Same could be said about FFXII to some extent. Imo FFXIV(ARR) was the return to fork for FF story telling and gameplay(2.5 gcd feeling turn-basedish). Specifically Heavensward, Shadowbringers, and Endwalker. In terms of mainline games FF7R trilogy has been great. Remake felt like the culmination of 12, 13 trilogy, type-0 and XV(most being considered a failure except maybe 12). Rebirth further improved it with its balance of exploration and linear gameplay bringing that golden era of FF back. FFXVI imo is a step up from FFXV failings but it was still divisive given its lack of rpg mechanics but it makes up for it, in terms of story telling, dialogue, and voice acting. My favorite game in the series is FFT. I personally don't think we need to use nostalgia to downplay some of the success of FF today. It's not as consistent as the golden era but there are still great stories being told, experiences to be had, that imo surpass FFX at times. I think you'd have a better case if you said FFIX imo but the point still stands.
@johnbenedetto4220
@johnbenedetto4220 Ай бұрын
FFX absolutely the last GREAT game… until 16 came out, but that’s a whole different style. *this opinion excludes the FF7 remake since it’s a remake
@dragonyoshi1
@dragonyoshi1 Ай бұрын
15 was a rushed mess I read that they had to scrap everything and redo it halfway through their allotted time to make it and it was too short and came off as very corporate and in-affectionate and I couldn't really care about any of the characters kingdom hearts 3 was bad as well Square got too successful to keep up quality. Persona and Disgaea titles are better than Square made stuff these days.
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
I followed the development of XV for ages. I was super hyped for the versus XIII game they had planned and then they obviously shifted direction. A massive what if in the series for sure.
@user-mt2cb3zb2n
@user-mt2cb3zb2n 8 күн бұрын
Ten was the last good final fantasy. And we all know it no matter how much we want to play devils advocate
@yozzu5101
@yozzu5101 Ай бұрын
I think 12 the last great final fantasy excluding rebirth.
@kjh4496
@kjh4496 Ай бұрын
I would argue 12 was the end of the golden age of FF even with the fact it had a terrible development and was left unfinished. 13 was the beginning of the downfall and it hasn’t gotten up since. 16 tried and I respect what it was trying to do but it lacked a lot of core elements on the series and was targeting an audience that doesn’t like FF.
@xeonaught6942
@xeonaught6942 Ай бұрын
you haven't played FF14 or FF7 rebirth then ?
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
I address that in the video. I didn't mention FFVII Remake/Rebirth because they're part of the FFVII universe. Loved them!
@xeonaught6942
@xeonaught6942 Ай бұрын
@@ErekLadd X is a great game tho and the last true SQUARESOFT game up untill rebirth 14 i wouldn't compare to a soft game but 7 rebirth is the first squaresoft game i have played since X
@MasterPJ86
@MasterPJ86 Ай бұрын
FFX was really the last true FF, made under the supervision of Sakaguchi. Until FF7 Remake came out, it surprised me, after so many years finally a FF game which deserves its name. Is not as great ass ff6, 7, 8, 9 or 10, but still, in my opinion it belongs in that elite. I'll play next FF7 rebirth, I have big hopes now.
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
Definitely play rebirth. I loved every second of it!
@michaelkarlsson5966
@michaelkarlsson5966 Ай бұрын
"deserves" is such a harsh statement. I personally think that the only way for a series to survive is to move forward and break new ground. It doesn't mean that everything will be good but if they don't take chance, what's the point of making new games? I really prefer the FF8-
@ShockwaveFPSStudios
@ShockwaveFPSStudios Ай бұрын
Good luck playing Rebirth. I was disappointed after playing the demo, and after seeing the clips of it, I got even more disappointed to the point where I become frustrated.
@Drakengard65
@Drakengard65 Ай бұрын
Tbh FF16 was great imo. That being said. The combat system for FF16 was decent, but left much to be desired. It had great ideas and such, but lacked the finishing touch. The best Action combat system that Square have made to date is the FF7 Rebirth system. Is it perfect? No, but it is the closest thing we got to a perfect system for the new vision they have for how combat should be in a modern FF game. I too miss the old turnbased system they used to have. I belive that a modern FF game can still have a turnbased system and still do well in the modern gaming scene, but i also see the plus sides of having a action combat system. Tbh i would love for them to take the system from FF7 Rebirth and run with that and expand on that system for the next FF game in the series. The story of FF16 for an example was a really great story aswell. So i do belive that the FF series can manage to capture the same magical feeling with its newer releases just as the older ones have. The thing that the newer FF games have held against them is the power of nostalgia and that is a powerfull thing to try and overcome.
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
I loved FFXVI but I think I need some more time separated from beating it to get a feel for it. I really enjoyed it for what it was worth! I know a lot of people are very quick to say #notmyfinalfantasy but I think XVI serves as a great turning point for getting the series back on track. FFVII remake/rebirth is absolutely amazing. Rebirth blew me away in so many ways! It’s clear this style of game is the way forward for the series and that’s ok. But I always find myself thinking back to the old turn based games from time to time. Thanks for watching!
@ThePantafernando
@ThePantafernando Ай бұрын
No. I love XI and XII
@raabm5292
@raabm5292 Ай бұрын
No, because 12 was really good too.
@Sronmars_Den
@Sronmars_Den 19 күн бұрын
The last great Final Fantasy game was Final Fantasy IX. 🙃
@thelonesage3146
@thelonesage3146 Ай бұрын
Pfft no got 12 , 14 and 16
@lawless130
@lawless130 Ай бұрын
100% yes. There hasn't been a great one since. Although I'm really enjoying rebirth so far but the mainlines have been dissapointing.
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
Rebirth was insanely good. So was remake!
@secretbunnyninja
@secretbunnyninja Ай бұрын
FFX's success is proof that people are getting less intelligent over time. A boring color explosion that could only amuse toddlers unfamiliar with the garden of tropes that Japan refuses to let die.
@Taikomo
@Taikomo Ай бұрын
No, X was not the last GREAT Final Fantasy. XI, XII and XIV all released after it.
@PointNGlitch
@PointNGlitch Ай бұрын
I think XVI is a return to form even if the gameplay is different.
@HadokenThrower
@HadokenThrower Ай бұрын
Yes, FFX was the last GREAT Final Fantasy
@spyrochrisgaming
@spyrochrisgaming Ай бұрын
In terms of story and storytelling, I really liked XVI. More so than XII, XIII, and XV.
@ErekLadd
@ErekLadd Ай бұрын
Definitely agree XVI had an amazing story!
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