Washington State, Oregon State Heading to Expansion Big 12 by 2027 Due to Realignment Twist is Goal

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If Washington State and Oregon State were to join the Big 12 Conference in an expansion, it would bring several potential benefits and contributions to the conference:
Geographic Expansion: Adding Washington State and Oregon State would extend the Big 12's geographic footprint into the Pacific Northwest, tapping into new markets and fan bases in that region. This expansion could increase television viewership, merchandise sales, and overall conference exposure on the West Coast.
Competitive Balance: Both Washington State and Oregon State have competitive athletic programs in various sports, including football and basketball. Their inclusion would add depth to the Big 12's roster of teams and enhance the overall competitiveness of the conference.
Rivalries and Matchups: The addition of Washington State and Oregon State could create new rivalries and matchups within the Big 12. Traditional rivalries between these schools and existing Big 12 teams, as well as potential cross-conference matchups, could generate excitement and draw attention to the conference.
Academic Prestige: Washington State and Oregon State are respected academic institutions with strong research and academic programs. Their addition would align with the academic standards of the Big 12 and enhance the conference's reputation as a leader in both athletics and academics.
Financial Impact: The inclusion of Washington State and Oregon State could potentially increase revenue opportunities for the Big 12 through expanded media rights deals, sponsorship agreements, and other financial partnerships. Their presence in the conference could attract new corporate sponsors and boost overall revenue streams.
Overall, the addition of Washington State and Oregon State to the Big 12 would bring geographic expansion, competitive balance, new rivalries, academic prestige, and potential financial benefits to the conference, enriching the overall experience for student-athletes, fans, and stakeholders alike.
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@jordanmerchant8757 25 күн бұрын

As an Arizona Wildcat fan and alum, i can attest that the Cougs and Beavers would be awesome additions to the conference. Culturally they are a perfect fit for the Big XII. we're talking small college towns with rabid fan bases that have had success battling the big boys.

@thejfactor1 25 күн бұрын

They’re land grant schools, too.

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

Yeah but Arizona will be GONE before or soon after they get there.

@scottseco4280 21 күн бұрын

You’re wrong.

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 21 күн бұрын

@@scottseco4280 I am not wrong. But HOW SO? Why would you think that? The Big 12 is a place where as many Power Conference Teams as possible are being herded into before a CULLING. Soon they will separate the Wheat from the Chaff by moving the Best of the Big 12 into the Power 3. THEN they will herd the Best of the G5's into the Big 12.

@m.pitt765 22 күн бұрын

As A USC Fan Im.estatic to hear this news regarding WSU and OSU possibly joining the Big12. Both fan bases are knowledgeable passionate & devoted to their programs. Deserving to goto the Big 12..Best Wishes to both schools.

@dylantouch9329 25 күн бұрын

Despite WSU being located in Pullman, the majority of WSU fans & alumni live in and around the Seattle metro/Puget Sound area which is currently the #13 tv sports market in the US.

@donconry7894 25 күн бұрын

I hope WSU , and OREGON state get in to the big 12 , this coming from a Washington Husky fan they got screwed in the demise of PAC 12/

@varrick1226 25 күн бұрын

You will need 2 conferences, a Big 12 East and Big 12 West and have enough teams in each conference where travel is limited. Keep the east teams playing east and west with west and at the end, have a playoff between each top team.

@Patrick-sg7cm 25 күн бұрын

There already is a Big 12 east. It's the rebuilt ACC after FSU, Clemson, North Carolina, and Miami leave.

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 20 сағат бұрын

Geography is DONE in College Football. DONE.

@williamstrong6460 25 күн бұрын

The #1 topic of conversation for a Big 12 podcast at this time MUST be the KU to the SEC real discussions. This would take the Big 12 biggest revenue generator by far, #7 in the nation this past year and top 25 over 25 years. It removes THE basketball blue blood, inventor of game is 1st ku coach, ku in top 2 all time. Ku is undeniably a rising football power with 9 wins, including a bowl win last season. KU is recruiting stronger and stronger. Strong rivalry with Missouri but also strong ties to Texas, A&M, Oklahoma, and Arkansas. Contiguous to SEC. AAU. Several schools are championing KU to SEC. Even rumors the B1G may swoop in first. Losing KU would be a MASSIVE loss as conference founder and die hard Big 12 supporter who has no choice but to accept......

@turboshelby8322 25 күн бұрын

Yup KU is the reason Big 12 is still alive. Take KU out of the Big 12 and it will collapse.

@kennethmayner 25 күн бұрын

I totally agree. KU/SEC is the biggest story right now. Funny how that isn’t talked about here now that the shoe is on the other foot.

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

KU has 3 Options and all 3 are better than staying in the Big 12.

@TotalDrganMania 24 күн бұрын

@@user-kn7ry8iz6x ACC is not a better option. Too unstable and too few rivalries, plus less revenue long term

@tpatrickl9539 Күн бұрын

KU is a joke! They have no football program history. Why would the SEC want to add a mediocre big 12 football school? Sure, the Jayhawks have a decent basketball team. That’s wonderful. Does basketball generate the same kind of money as football? Nope? KU is a joke. KU to the SEC is funny, an even bigger joke

@TheTinfoilmanlive 25 күн бұрын

This show needs to start every show with Once a pond a Time 🤣

@kennyevans1320 25 күн бұрын

As a WVU fan..add teams from east coast also

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

Why? WVU is going to be GONE.

@fwilliamcony28 24 күн бұрын

@@user-kn7ry8iz6x Where did the Big XII's "mountain outpost" back East go?

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

@@fwilliamcony28 To ACC with all of its Traditional Rivals and the Best Brands and Markets still in the Big 12, of Course. All will be in the ACC and making more than DOUBLE the $$$ than what they can in the Big 12 within 5 years.

@scottseco4280 21 күн бұрын

Bingo.

@scottseco4280 21 күн бұрын

@@user-kn7ry8iz6xthe ACC will not exist.

@swarringimj 25 күн бұрын

As a Duck and Pac guy. I'm hoping both are added to the Big 12. Think the media deal helps.

@George-Kliavkoff4Big12 24 күн бұрын

As a Big 12 fan, I'm hoping this happens, too.

@ej8710 23 күн бұрын

As a Beaver fan I don't want the Beavs to join. We are okay with rebuilding the Pac.

@groverdee66 25 күн бұрын

Add Oregon state/ Washington state. And Louisville/ Pitt Perfect 20

@kirkmoody6109 25 күн бұрын

Or instead of that add 4 or 5 from the acc such as Louisville VT Pitt NC state and if it were 5 teams GT then go back west and add Wazzu but not Oregon state for 22 teams and would be coast to coast

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

@@kirkmoody6109 Or even better take the Best Brands and Markets OUT of the Big 12 and put them in the ACC for at least $20 Million more per school and the 3rd Best Conference by a HUGE MARGIN. That is what they should do and THAT is what is going to happen GUARANTEED

@phays10 25 күн бұрын

The fan base for the Cougs lives like five to six hours away. They all live on the west side around seattle and tacoma.

@PvtPooter 25 күн бұрын

They need to stay on the dry side. 😆

@PvtPooter 25 күн бұрын

They need to stay on the dry side where they belong. 😂

@patrickschattilly8877 25 күн бұрын

Can I just say Jim Mora is slowly turning Uconn football around I think he could help Uconn get into the Big 12 eventually

@sambostic8715 23 күн бұрын

WSU and OSU would be a great fit to the Big 12 plus the be going to another Power Conference. Plus the ACC might implode and the Big12 should get Cal, Stanford, SMU, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Virginia Tech, and Miami from the ACC for their rivalries with WVU. The SEC should get FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Duke, and UNC for their rivalries with teams like Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama and South Carolina. Wake Forest, NC State, and Virginia to the B1G for number reasons. Notre Dame staying independent is about as reliable as Switzerland staying neutral.

@adamcompean9385 24 күн бұрын

Gonzaga Zags, need to get out of the WCC immediately!!! It's time to join a big true conference for competition!

@monterey5667 23 күн бұрын

People don't seem to get it-- Washington State may be in Pullman, but it has statewide viewership and frankly, even many University of Washington fans watch the Washington State football games, as WSU always plays an entertaining brand of football. The Big 12 would be crazy not to add them and Oregon State.

@Donjkoontz 25 күн бұрын

As I understand it a negative factor for both schools is that their revenue is really low

@matthewcastleton2263 12 күн бұрын

I also agree that they both should be in the Big 12. Half of the former Pac-12 would have joined the Big 12 at that point. They make sense culturally.

@HMbeav8404 25 күн бұрын

The ultimate legacy move for BY would be to grab the pac 12 conference framework and put a buncha teams in there creating two seperate conferences and giving them more revenue, more teams in the cfp and more of a footprint. How would one figure that out however idk… 🤔

@sunsensational 25 күн бұрын

UConn is the diamond in the ruff. Land grant state university with best bball program and football that was had success when in orig BE/power conf.

@CharlesFosterMalloy 25 күн бұрын

UConn is NOT baskrtball only. Their football media viewership numbers are better than SDSU's numbers.

@user-sw4ot1fs7i 25 күн бұрын

They added Cinn and UCF so WV would have some teams in the east to cut down on travel. Adding OSU and WSU would added to it.

@fwilliamcony28 24 күн бұрын

Geography is no longer as issue. You have USC/UCLA travelling to Penn State/Rutgers/Maryland, Oregon/Washington travelling to same venues back East, Calif/Stanford traveling to Tobacco Road/Syracuse, WVU/UC going to Arizona State.

@tpatrickl9539 Күн бұрын

@@fwilliamcony28 I don’t think the verdict is in yet on the geography of USC and UCLA having to travel to the Midwest and Northeast. I think time will prove it to be a big mistake. Watch the two Cali programs pay the price for their greed.

@toddpatrick8254 25 күн бұрын

Welcome to the Big 12 Oregon State and Wahington State! 🇺🇸

@ej8710 23 күн бұрын

Who says we want to come? I want to stay on my side of the Continental Divide. No reason for our athletes to spend their life in airports.

@matthewcastleton2263 12 күн бұрын

@@ej8710you know that four of Oregon State/Wazzu’s former conference mates are going to be in the Big 12 now right? The Big 12 is going to be the ONLY major conference in the Mountain Time Zone going forward next year, as Utah, BYU, Colorado, Arizona, AND ASU are all members of the league. Plus the revenue is WAY BIGGER than any other opportunity those two schools could get anywhere else sans the Big Ten and SEC (which are NOT happening). Oregon State and Washington State would be INSANE to turn down membership offers from the Big 12. Really? You’d prefer playing a quasi-independent football schedule every year and be stuck in the WCC for basketball/baseball/the Olympic sports? You do realize the gigantic revenue gap that will create over the years right?

@jaymcclanahan353 25 күн бұрын

Doce Grande!!! ✌️

@JohnDry 26 күн бұрын

Does squaaaaa mean hell yeah in Southern?

@stevedonnie4077 25 күн бұрын

Oregon State is the biggest school in Oregon and still has a growing attendance. Corvallis may be a smaller town, but the reach expands beyond that one town and into Portland. With support and recapturing some momentum Smith had OSU can be a bigger asset than it seems now.

@fwilliamcony28 25 күн бұрын

Some of the ranked Best Small College Towns in America are in the Big XII such as Ames, Morgantown, Manhattan and Lawrence.

@leeannmcgill2996 24 күн бұрын

I have to say it makes me mad when you only talk about the WSU and OSU football teams. What about the women's side OSU women's basketball and WSU can compete with any team out there. When this PAC-12 breakup was announced it was supposed to be football only. That's what everyone was told Tara V from Stanford wbb was mad when she found out after that it was all sports. So she retired at the end of the season. This breakup was media money period. Students weren't asked if they wanted to fly across the country twice a week in basket ball study sleep. It's awful what was allowed to happen to the PAC12 all because the media didn't want to come all the way to the west coast. MEDIA $ sold the PAC12.

@tallfir2520 24 күн бұрын

Not true. Portland Community College has an enrollment of 50,000. Besides, osu is an online school with 11,000 online students.

@stevedonnie4077 24 күн бұрын

@@tallfir2520 You're right, I should've said University. I figured we all understood we're not talking about community colleges in the Pac/Big 12, but my bad. And even if you want to discount online students, the attendance and school are still growing.

@tallfir2520 24 күн бұрын

Not sure of the exact number of online students at osu so this is approximate; at any rate, Oregon and osu have about the same number of full time students at their respective Eugene and Corvallis campuses; however, Oregon has more alumni nationwide and in Oregon.

@darrenanderson5551 25 күн бұрын

What about SAN DIEGO STATE. SDSU fans would love to be in the BIG12!

@ej8710 23 күн бұрын

Hopefully they will become part of the PAC

@darrenanderson5551 22 күн бұрын

Pac is over with, done no more... time to move on and compete at the top level in the BIG12! Oregon st, and Wash St, are going to the Big12 by 2027, and the Big12 will come after Gonzaga too Getting an opportunity to play in the Big12 a power conference, and start making power money down the road and play on a National & International level IS WHAT SAN DIEGO STATE NEEDS to stay relevant and compete in ALL sports nationally ...or maybe your happy with the crumbs off the Kings table. The Big 12 Conference announced the launch of Big 12 Mexico, the Conference’s first international extension that will see Big 12 men’s and women’s basketball, women’s soccer and baseball games held in Mexico. Big 12 Mexico’s first contest will be a men’s and women’s basketball matchup between Kansas and Houston, held in Mexico City at Arena CDMX in 2025. Following the launch of Big 12 basketball in Mexico, Big 12 women’s soccer and baseball will participate in exhibitions against clubs from the region. Yes, and who do you think would be a natural fit for Mexican citizens to get behind, our AZTECS, the Big12 is a natural landing spot, for SAN DIEGO STATE to become apart of, and you have to commend the B12 conference and all it's aspiring to become. This would build international & national Brand recognition for San Diego State. Also, think about all the football, basketball and SDSU merch the University would be selling $$$$$$$$. Hopefully we'll get a second chance to get into the BIG12 and capitalize on it! Go Aztecs

@HMbeav8404 26 күн бұрын

Squaaaaa 😎

@ej8710 23 күн бұрын

I don't want to. This is madness. I am fine on my side of the continental divide. Rebuild the Pac. Go Beavs! Go Cougs!

@brandonh5360 25 күн бұрын

Over UConn and South Florida? Idk about that

@PvtPooter 25 күн бұрын

UConn is garbage

@Alan-lv9rw 26 күн бұрын

28 team conference. 🤣🤣🤣

@simon2077 25 күн бұрын

24 I could see. 28 is way too much. The money wouldn't be there if it's too weighted down. Most won't like this idea, but for me the 8 new schools would be adding Miami, UConn, Pitt, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Duke, Oregon State, Washington State. The problem is if we take Gonzaga I wouldn't take a 2nd team in Seattle. Too overloaded in one market. If we take WAZZU, then I say no to Gonzaga. Without WAZZU we would still have a block of 6 with Arizona, Arizona State, BYU, Colorado, Oregon State & Utah. I love the idea of Oregon State & Okie State having an outright Halloween OSU Orange & Black Rivalry . Speaking of NEW & OLD rivalries DUKE/UCONN, PITT/WVU, LOUSIVILLE/CIN, MIAMI/UCF. THINK NAME BRANDS / RIVALRIES! I'm NOT in the same camp of only one sport Big 12. Football pays the bills.

@JohnDry 25 күн бұрын

"ALLEGEDLY" the ACC will fold, and the B12 will be picked apart as well so it makes since.

@JohnDry 25 күн бұрын

Rumers of ks, Kst Tx Tech, WV, Ok St going to the sec, TCU, Utah, Az, ASU, Col, and possibly Iowa St to the B10. We will see if those actually come true.

@jeffmorgan9337 25 күн бұрын

It's about keeping the money not sharing it .

@collinsezebuihe8408 25 күн бұрын

The Beavs and Wazzu may not even be interested in joining any conference - given that they have what it takes to rebuild the PAC-12 with at least 8 good teams and retain most of the NCAA Western fan base.

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

LMAO. Wut? The State of California, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Iowa and others is already GONE EAST. Enjoy owning Big Sky Country and NO Population Base.

@matthewcastleton2263 12 күн бұрын

I seriously doubt that

@stevedonnie4077 25 күн бұрын

Oregon State football really only truly struggled this century under Gary Anderson. It’s just a shame that era came at the worst possible time.

@tallfir2520 24 күн бұрын

Oregon State is way under .500 in its history. Since 1968 when the Pac-8 was formed, their CONFERENCE record against only power 4 competition is terrible: 11 winning seasons, 40 LOSING seasons, and 4 tying seasons. And their viewership numbers haven't been good. On the other hand, you are correct that they have done better in the 2000's but not THAT much better and their viewership numbers still aren't good but perhaps good enough for the Big 12; one can hope!

@stevedonnie4077 24 күн бұрын

@@tallfir2520 Yeah man Oregon was god awful before the 90s also, but recent history matters exponentially more to the conversation of the video. They've absolutely done much better in the 00's unless you just expect there to be 70 elite college teams in D1 football. Oregon State has gotten perfectly fine viewership numbers, it just happens that they had their worst coach/rebuild and media distribution right at the moment it hurt them the most. When they were good recently so were their numbers. When they were bad they were trapped on the Pac12 network with late kickoff times.

@eersrus 25 күн бұрын

Oregon State & Washington Stare vs UCF & Cincinnati. Media markets and total alumni bases. I’m a WVU fan BUT UCF will have a shot at becoming the football BEAST of Big 12. 20:22

@JohnDry 25 күн бұрын

UConn over Gonzaga. Jim Mora, and UConn(I-CONN university)wins all the time in men's, and woman's basketball. How many times has Gonzaga win men's, and women's baketball?

@davidhenry1663 25 күн бұрын

What are they going to thrive in??? English as a 1st language. WTH

@eersrus 25 күн бұрын

Taking a partial into a conference spells doom. Look at Big East and ACC.

@aBrewster29 25 күн бұрын

I think the last go around in alignment showed that the value wasn’t there. I don’t think anyone wants to see OSU/WSU be excluded, but the same goes for Boise State, Fresno State, and SDSU who have always been on the outside looking in. Theoretically they could come up with an SMU-type arrangement, but would that really benefit the Big 12? Probably not. These schools have got to keep bootstrapping until the value is there.

@thejfactor1 25 күн бұрын

You know this is for football right?

@aBrewster29 25 күн бұрын

@@thejfactor1 what’s your point?

@thejfactor1 25 күн бұрын

@@aBrewster29you’re not going to have “value” problems by bringing in the PAC-2 and the two best Mountain West teams if it’s just football.

@johnsexton7621 25 күн бұрын

Minus 4 teams

@jrcsvrvsc 24 күн бұрын

No thank you. OSU and WSU doesn't want to be in the big 12. Has No value to be in the big 12 that like going in a G5 conference.

@HMbeav8404 25 күн бұрын

I’m surprised yall didn’t talk about the benefit of adding the PNW 3 OSU, WSU, Gonzaga as a package deal…

@kirkmoody6109 25 күн бұрын

Im sorry my 8404 brother but the beavs aren't coming to the big12 I hope the best for them tho

@HMbeav8404 25 күн бұрын

@@kirkmoody6109 you think hearing this same sentiment over and over is doing what for us? With Kansas having a foot out the door you’d think you would want programs akin to the hateful 8 who want to be there and aren’t looking at the next spot. We know our place. We just wanna ball with our fellow ag bros

@kirkmoody6109 25 күн бұрын

@@HMbeav8404 Kansas has no foot out the door

@kirkmoody6109 25 күн бұрын

@@HMbeav8404 I wouldn't mind the add its just unrealistic with how the format is today Iowa state would match up well with osu but realistically the big12 needs to look east we have 3 teams on absolute islands outthere in ucf WV and Cincinnati

@thejfactor1 25 күн бұрын

@@kirkmoody6109 Pitt and Virginia Tech need to be added. Boise and Fresno need to be added as well. At this point the conference needs as many good value programs it can possibly get, and all of those programs punch way above their weight.

@phays10 25 күн бұрын

A couple things here. Half the base for the Cougs thiught it was good chun left. I had huskies throwing dirt on chun saying hw wasn't very good turn arpund and celebrate they hired him. Also the UW president knew she wasn't going ro sign thw apple deal the whole time. It was in the papers. Multiple stories were written about it. She told the conference she was going to sign while trying to back channel into the b1g.

@kennethmayner 25 күн бұрын

How about Kansas to the SEC discussion?

@mason2430 25 күн бұрын

Are you serious? Is that really happening?

@kennethmayner 25 күн бұрын

It’s been the chatter for a few days. Greg Fluguar has two reliable sources he is talking to. Not imminent.

@corneliusdansbyjr6165 25 күн бұрын

Oklahoma State to the SEC

@Patrick-sg7cm 25 күн бұрын

@@corneliusdansbyjr6165Far less likely than Kansas to the SEC. Kansas actually gets the SEC into new territory.

@tpatrickl9539 Күн бұрын

@@Patrick-sg7cm why would anybody be desperate to grab Kansas? Low population and no football program. I don’t think the SEC would be interested.

@jeffmorgan9337 25 күн бұрын

Go east ,add 4 if possible 🛑

@rumesh_lance 23 күн бұрын

Oh hell no dumpster diving for big 12, mountain west is a good conference

@chrisevans2673 25 күн бұрын

I'm still taking UCF over OSU/WSU. UCF has more future upside

@rand8355 25 күн бұрын

Yeah, UCF is one of the largest schools in the country with a young fan base. They've done a lot with little--over the years. It's also an easy destination to get to.

@Joe-sm9qj 25 күн бұрын

I hate to admit it, but it's the right thing to do. For whatever reason ACC teams would rather perish than join the big 12. Time for big 12 to move on.

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

LMAO Big 12 teams will be BEGGING to get into the ACC in 5 years.

@Joe-sm9qj 24 күн бұрын

@@user-kn7ry8iz6x Well see about that. Right now you have teams begging to leave. Might want to deal with that first.

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

@@Joe-sm9qj Leave for the B1G or SEC. Sure. So do YOU BTW. We ARE dealing with it. And when they PAY WHAT THEY OWE they can GO. Meanwhile, you are in DENIAL. Claiming BOTH that "APES TOGETHER STRONG" while you beat your chests and act like you are King of the Wastelands. And at the same time saying "NOBODY WANTS OUR CRAPPY TEAMS" but that is what proves our crappy teams are the BEST. That is a HILARIOUS PRETZEL you are bending yourselves into. It CANNOT be BOTH. In fact, it is NEITHER. The MEAT is coming off those Big 12 bones no later than 5 years from now. And the ZOMBIE that remains can PRETEND whatever it wants. Everybody else is Going EAST.

@Joe-sm9qj 24 күн бұрын

@@user-kn7ry8iz6x geez, chill. I remember what you did to the big east. So, enjoy the uncertainty.

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 23 күн бұрын

@@Joe-sm9qj What I did to the Big East? What did I do? And I have NO UNCERTAINTY. I KNOW what is going to happening (within a few parameters). What I don't know is WHO the B1g and SEC are going to take in TOTAL or which teams will go to which Conference. But I KNOW which ACC Teams are STAYING there FOR CERTAIN and which Big 12 teams are LEAVING IT for certain. There are a few Teams I can't be certain about until it all shakes out. But I have a good idea which ones will be where based on FACTS and EVIDENCE I have and you DO NOT.

@chrisevans2673 25 күн бұрын

Big12 needs to wait and see what happens in the ACC.

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

They WILL wait. And they WILL SEE the ACC take their Nest Brands and Markets away from them with EASE.

@dougwatchesiowastate 25 күн бұрын

Shooting low again I see 🤣🤣🤣

@johnsexton7621 25 күн бұрын

So basically the big 12 and pac 12 will officially merge minus two teams

@matthewcastleton2263 12 күн бұрын

Six teams. Oregon, Washington, UCLA, and USC are joining the Big Ten and Cal/Stanford are joining the ACC. HALF of the former Pac-12 would have joined the Big 12.

@haroldflashman4687 25 күн бұрын

Turning the Big 12 into PAC 12 lite is a fantastic idea. It worked out so well for the PAC 12! I mean creating a voting block of 6 former PAC teams is a really good idea! Big 12 should go for it immediately.! Besides I’m sure both Fox and ESPN will be falling over themselves to give the Big 12 $62 million a year in addition media payout for these 2 teams! On the other hand the Big 12 is a dumping ground conference for programs that no other power conference wants. So WSU/OSU would fit right in!

@Patrick-sg7cm 25 күн бұрын

The best hope for Oregon State and Washington State would be for them to receive an invite from the ACC.

@rx2878 25 күн бұрын

He11 no. If WSU & OSU want to collude with the mid-12 and diss the ACC...they can stay homeless.

@Patrick-sg7cm 25 күн бұрын

@rx2878 Who says they are colluding with the Big 12? It's hearsay, there isn't any proof of that happening.

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

TRUE. But they will not be invited to the ACC. They will BACKFILL into the Big 12 where they FIT and the BEST of the Big 12 will go to the ACC where they FIT.

@kimcoulter4203 25 күн бұрын

Washington State has a historical overall losing record and only 18 bowl games… and they had losing season last year. Oregon State on the other hand has winning record and been winning on the field a helluva lot more than they’ve lost. WSU is admittedly a tough sell but man… I feel bad for both schools and wouldn’t have a problem bringing them into the B12.

@tallfir2520 24 күн бұрын

Actually Oregon State has had only 11 winning season (40 LOSING seasons and 4 tying seasons) in CONFERENCE play since the Pac 8 was established in 1968...the worst record in the Pac 8-10-12 conference and, unlike WSU, they have NEVER won the conference and been the #1 seed in the conference in those 55 years. Their viewership numbers are also much worse than WSU. Don't conflate the two.

@kimcoulter4203 24 күн бұрын

@@tallfir2520 I actually could give a sh*t about any of that as I was simply trying to be somewhat polite by showing empathy for both schools. You prove there are always F-n internet haters that always come out of the woodwork.

@kimcoulter4203 24 күн бұрын

@@tallfir2520 btw: historically they have winning record… if you’re gonna be an internet hating troll at least be fair in your contemptible hatred

@davidfloyd9134 25 күн бұрын

Big12 would & will never add SMU

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

Big 12 will never get the CHANCE to add SMU, they have already LEAPFROGGED over the Big 12 into the Power 3.

@tpatrickl9539 Күн бұрын

The big 12 doesn’t need more mediocre teams. The northwest dreamers keep on trying to stay relevant. They are mountain West program and that is their future. Even with reverse merger, they are on a par with the Mountain West schools. Is it just coincidence that they didn’t get asked to join a major conference? I don’t think so.the big 12 would be embarrassed to take to such programs when there are much bigger fish out there potentially. It’s funny that this keeps on coming up, it shows how desperate you must be for content some days.

@user-kn7ry8iz6x 24 күн бұрын

WOW. Who told you THIS over a YEAR AGO? Me. Your BEST INSIDER who you NEVER listen to. The PAC 2 are Big 12 bound. Maybe Gonzaga too. idk. Who Cares? As for UConn it depends. If the ACC loses more than 3 teams to the B1G/SEC they will be NEXT in the ACC IF the ACC loses just 4. If the ACC loses 5 or more... idk what will happen with UConn if 5 or more ACC teams leave. In that case, the ACC may move SOONER on taking teams out of the Big 12 and leave UConn out. Getting those Denver, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Oklahoma City, Cincinnati and Huntington Markets may take precedence. Getting into Orlando or getting the rest of Dallas/Ft Worth might be worth more.

@tpatrickl9539 Күн бұрын

The cougars and beavers are in for some lean years. They have lost a lot of talent and coaches. They’re going to be mediocre programs at best. They will not be some thing that a major conference is interested in. The big 12 should not be interested in mediocre programs.

@paulhighstrom2016 25 күн бұрын

If the Big 12 were going to add teams that FAR away ESPN/Fox would have to want to pay for Oregon State and Washington State. They aren’t though. No school can afford to take less to give them a home. Best bet is to get added to a reformed ACC when they lose their major brands.

@rx2878 25 күн бұрын

ACC doesn't want them.

@scottseco4280 21 күн бұрын

No thanks, we don’t want them and don’t need them.

@corneliusdansbyjr6165 25 күн бұрын

Ha ha ha im so laughing at the Big 12 just hilarious the "Backup Conference" aka the "Lil Brother League"

@michcoug 25 күн бұрын

I know right ? Like only if we could have powerhouses like Rutgers and Vanderbilt in the B12.............

@Alex-pe9bd 22 күн бұрын

@@michcoug and power houses like Indiana Illinois, Minnesota, Maryland, northwestern and Nebraska with Miss St Arkansas a@m and what's happened to Florida

@davidframe1613 25 күн бұрын

As a mountaineer West Virginia fan I definitely don't want the Oregon State and Washington State added because of travel we already added six schools that are going to increase our travel from Arizona Arizona State Utah BYU Colorado and Houston. Now going to Washington and Oregon is just too much we need to add the schools on the East Coast first. If we can't get the ACC schools then add UConn Memphis Marshall and Southern Florida. Not the best teams but we got to cut this travel time down what are we adding Hawaii next.

@davidframe1613 25 күн бұрын

Or just make sure Washington State and Oregon State don't have to play the East Coast teams or they have to travel to the east coast every time or build a facility in Vegas for West Virginia Cincinnati and UFC to use when they are on the road they can go play three road games and just stay there. But absolutely no California teams.

@KANE8225 25 күн бұрын

I’m hearing Japan and Norway are in heavy talks with the Big 12

@davidframe1613 25 күн бұрын

@@KANE8225 right 🤣😂🤣 that's how it feels let's see how far we can play on the road.

@corneliusdansbyjr6165 25 күн бұрын

@@KANE8225hilarious

@CharlesFosterMalloy 25 күн бұрын

Why not do both ?

@kirk1470 25 күн бұрын

Too many liberal teams they’ll be a problem later

@Size-11 25 күн бұрын

@bkatt8228 25 күн бұрын

Nooooooo!!!

@davidhenry1663 25 күн бұрын

Why are you wasting our damn time on this dead on arrival crap. We aren't a no kill shelter.

@rx2878 25 күн бұрын

Washington State & Oregon State talking goofy.

@kentfultz4842 25 күн бұрын

Please, no. I feel sorry for these programs, but they add very little except more parity teams..possibly eliminating a playoff team. The comparison to why Colorado- gives us a much larger fan base and a better brand, BTW. Go Mountaineers!!