Watch this before buying a bivy sack for ultralight backpacking

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Tim Schwartz

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@PoeInTheDitch 11 ай бұрын

It's probably irrational thinking, but I feel helpless in a bivy bag...like packaged jerky for bears or like I'm conveniently already in the body bag to help out the maniac in the forest. I feel as though there's no space to defend myself. Lol

@timbschwartz 11 ай бұрын

I didn't have that fear until now!

@PoeInTheDitch 11 ай бұрын

@@timbschwartzWelcome to the Bivouacphobia support group. Meetings are on Mondays and Wednesdays. Free stale coffee and day-old donuts.

@richardjohnson4696 11 ай бұрын

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@richardjohnson4696 11 ай бұрын

Watch this clip, it details what you are talking about.

@PoeInTheDitch 11 ай бұрын

@@richardjohnson4696 That was amazing. Exactly as I imagined. Just add in the Jason Vorhees sleeping bag kill, and all my concerns would be visualized...

@krisdirkman2624 10 ай бұрын

They're great if you have high winds that would blow over a tent.

@timbschwartz 10 ай бұрын

Great point!

@randomweirdo2701 10 ай бұрын

I've had great luck pitching a tarp with elastic cords flat and crawling up under it in bad wind. I place the corner of a square tarp into the wind then stake the two adjacent sides to the ground. I stake the back sides and corner with the elastic. That way the wind can't pick up the leading edges and billow up the tarp. There's as much space as you make for yourself under there. I can sit up or kneel and the tarp stretches on the elastic to make that happen.

@danielnansel7538 7 ай бұрын

@@randomweirdo2701Dude, great tip!

@richardjohnson4696 11 ай бұрын

I have the OR Alpine Bivy, I really avoid using it, for high alpine use, I have my Direkt 2 tent, it is the same size at the bivy, lower down where you are showing this.. I'd rather use a hammock, under quilt and tarp. Bivies are a pain in the ass to get into without bringing dirt into your bag and it is just overall not a very enjoyable time sleeping. I have seen those who use them, but, I will do everything I can not to use mine.

@82726jsjsufhejsjshshdjso 10 ай бұрын

I’ve got a British army goretex bivvy - weighs 10% more than my expensive tent, closes with Velcro some of which my mum sewed on for me, a bit ratty. Wouldn’t change it for the world. Dry and comfy all night long, slept in snow trenches in Scotland in Feb like a fat pissed baby. Wake up, coffee on, smoke a pipe, on we go. Love it. Bivvies rule in Scottish midge season man. Get up high on a ridge so you’ve always got a breeze, roll it out in any cosy crevice. E: paid £30 for it about 10 years ago 🤌 always keep sleep mat inside the Therese I’d slide off, thick enough to protect my rustly crisp packet neo air. Fuck I love my bivvy bag man

@timbschwartz 10 ай бұрын

Nice! I've been trying to make it work out here in the PNW. No condensation issues with the Goretex?

@JoeZUGOOLA 7 ай бұрын

Cool

@northernswedenstories1028 5 ай бұрын

Those are good. Loads of space in them also. They are mainly for people who want to sleep wherever, whenever, however

@Taylor-Hanson 10 ай бұрын

This was really useful. Thank you.

@timbschwartz 10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words, Taylor! I'm glad you found it helpful!

@Taylor-Hanson 10 ай бұрын

I just wanted to let you know that you're welcome. Thanks for saving me from feeling closter-phobic. @@timbschwartz

@corporaterobotslave400 7 ай бұрын

Bears refer to bivvy sacks as burritos.

@20Hikecdt23 Ай бұрын

My bivi has a bathtub floor which is waterproof and very good top. My tarp is from REI and I’m never as warm as when I’m in my bivi. However, what made me change was the convenience of being in a tent. It the end my tent was equal to the weight of bivi and tarp.

@timbschwartz Ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Yeah, I think there are probably times where a bivy really shines for convenience (the desert comes to mind), but I too prefer to have a tent when rain is an issue vs a bivy. Just makes it easy to change and whatnot.

@toriclark8385 10 ай бұрын

Can also use a hammock and tarp

@hanskloss1331 2 ай бұрын

Borah Cuben Fiber Bivy and an Etowah TNT tarp 👍

@timbschwartz Ай бұрын

Nice!

@tyler2260 9 ай бұрын

No rain in socal but they are great scorpion protection the things are everywhere out here

@outdooroutpost6061 4 ай бұрын

I’ve been using a bivy specifically a USGI one for all my cold weather camping and they are life savers. Traps in the heat but as mentioned above they will trap moisture. So generally an overnight is fine anything more is kinda risky

@timbschwartz 4 ай бұрын

100%! I agree and think anything more than a night a VBL might be a good idea.

@oscar38 11 ай бұрын

Very claustrophobic...I'm working on that, because I know its just a state of mind. And I'm determined to make it work.

@timbschwartz 11 ай бұрын

Let me know how it works for you!

@Why...So...Stupid... 10 ай бұрын

I helped my claustrophobia by forcing myself into uncomfortable places and learning to control my mind. I still get that feeling every once in awhile, but now I can easily control it. I mean before my heart would start racing, I couldn't catch my breath and my mind would panic. Now I cram myself into industrial machinery for a living, doing maintenance. Found a new fear though, machines starting up while I'm inside of them. That fear is legit though. My first year I seen a man get his skull crushed by a 5 ton roll of steel right in front of me and there was nothing I could do to stop it. I still have nightmares about it.

@oscar38 10 ай бұрын

@@timbschwartz After persevering with the claustrophobia, I love bivy camping. Its the best!!!!! My hooped bivys instructions say it takes 10mins to set up....only if you have your eyes closed and just use your left hand. It's ready in about 4mins, which is great as you can leave it until its almost dark.....perfect for stealth. I love it, the feel of a gentle breeze across your face , the sounds and smells, etc. You're really part of your environment. And light weight too. Does get damp inside though, ill have to figure a way of drying my sleeping bag during the day...I found anyway.

@timothyoneill3350 2 ай бұрын

@@oscar38any good ways to fry it out?

@southernhorseman2006 2 ай бұрын

After tarp camping for days in a relentless frog strangling rain, I started carrying a goretex bivy cover on every trip. Every... Single... Trip.

@timbschwartz 2 ай бұрын

Always good to have as a backup!

@CyclicMac 8 ай бұрын

I always woke up wet in water proof bivis. Humans r mostly water

@timbschwartz 8 ай бұрын

Yeah I think in most cases water-resistant is the way to go, if you need to bivy at all. That said I've heard good things about waterproof eVent for winter use though, but haven't used it myself.

@RhodokTribesman 7 ай бұрын

These things have always just seemed so miserable compared to a tent or hammock. Never slept in one though, so maybe Im missing something?

@timbschwartz 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Once upon a time, tarp + bivy was lighter than a tent, but that's not necessarily the case anymore. I think where the bivy shines is cowboy camping in dry environments, where you don't need overhead shelter, but want to keep the breeze and critters off.

@knifelore1647 5 ай бұрын

I learned the first time I Solo camped, there was no way I could rest and not see, I went out the next trip in the same spot, and used my one man tent as a shed, I slept under a tarp, an felt much better, and i do have a touch of confined places!

@timbschwartz 5 ай бұрын

Glad you found a setup that works well for you!

@condortraveler7855 4 ай бұрын

You Americans are so technical and want always the best gear, I wonder when they enjoy nature

@mohammedfazal9231 11 ай бұрын

u awesome

@timbschwartz 11 ай бұрын

Back at ya!

@RonaiHenrik 10 ай бұрын

Do you *need* a tarp? Can't you just use the bag on the ground?

@timbschwartz 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment! These kinds of bivies are water resistant, not waterproof, so you'll want some sort of overhead protection if there's a chance of rain.

@AkiraSRT9 9 ай бұрын

Military bivys are waterproof i can attest to that.

@Stop-All-War 6 ай бұрын

1x Man, low profile tent & light Tarp for a comfort factor. Ultralite is to stay each nite in a Hostel 😂

@timbschwartz 6 ай бұрын

Haha as long as you're enjoying yourself!

@mwj5368 7 ай бұрын

What about bivys that are made of Gor-Tex that breathe? What is a good source to find out more about Gore-Tex bivy's because since they can breathe then I think they would be the ideal.

@timbschwartz 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the question! Waterproof-breathable fabrics like Gore-Tex are going to be less breathable than water-resistant fabrics like Argon 67. If breathability is you're aim, you'll want to go water-resistant rather than waterproof unless you plan on the bivy being blasted by precipitation, like in winter and there's blowing snow or if it's your primary, standalone shelter (not advised lol.)

@psycomutt 6 ай бұрын

Definitely start by researching military biby bags. A lot cheaper but usually heavier. Don't forget that there are lots of militaries, not just your own, and a bunch use gor tex gear.

@chrishudson4198 10 ай бұрын

What bivy is that?

@timbschwartz 10 ай бұрын

It's from Equinox - I don't think they make them anymore. Would recommend Borah Gear if you're in the market for one.

@allenwurl6245 4 ай бұрын

The primary reason I choose a tent because 🐜, 🐀 & 🦀. The second reason I choose a tent is ⛺️ internal square footage. I’m sure there is a time and a place where a Bivy is enjoyable and possibly the best choice but remember that doesn’t mean I’d be miserable inside my tent. If the argument is speed & weight over comfort I raise you the humble Poncho 👍

@timbschwartz 4 ай бұрын

Agreed! I rarely use them these days, but like most gear, there is a place for it. Cowboy camping in the desert, for instance.

@jerryrfields 7 ай бұрын

I could not see what you were talking about.The video was too dark. I did not like the back ground noise. You did not show a complete picture of the items.