Have had this mower (or at least the earlier incarnation) for 4 years and it's still going strong. The construction and materials are top notch. Not sure why your run time is so low, but I'm able to cut my 1/4 lot and still have 1 or 2 bars left when done. And as you said , the cut quality is fantastic.

This is a good lawnmower after 3 years using them 2 time a week still working strong i used 2 60volt batteries bcz after 45 minutes batteries died but work pretty well not complaints so far 👍

Looking to switch to an electric mower and the Toro was on my shopping list. Thank you for the review as it has given a good insight into some of the electric mower issues. No need to add anything else, the post says all I need to know.

I love the personal pace on the timemaster.

I have this mower. Bought an extra 7.5 ah battery. Also bought the snow blower which has a 7.5 ah battery. Yeah the 6.0 ah battery is weak. Maybe 35 mins runtime. Key is to raise deck if high grass. Key mower out of high rev mode. Then lower deck and come back for a second pass. I have been beating the crap out of this mower for about two years now. Cut 7 lawns per week in my block. Thats like 14 years of regular use. I had a Hart 40v so this Toro 60v was a step up. I only paid 500 for mine so yes at the current price of 629 its expensive. I may go with a super recyler if this monster bites the dust but it just keeps going and going. I hope I dont jink things by praising it!

Glad you didn’t sell out with your review. I’ve owned one of these for two years now and only have about a quarter of an acre grass and have found it to be total crap.

Looking into making the switch to electric. Thanks for the heads up on the run time and charge time. First part of yard would need mowed again by the time I got finished! haha

Thanks for taking the time to post this. Can you review the snow shovel attachment? 😆 I got the EGO and Ryobi shovels but haven't had any snow yet to try them.

Nice demo, thank you. I have this mower and I get exhausted using it, never happened when I used my old gasoline self prop mower. any ideas what I'm doing wrong.

The Personal Pace is an excellent self propelled system. I have two Toros with that system. Love it, both have given me trouble free service. Obviously if your yard is rough terrain like you described, the Personal Pace will be herky jerky.

I have this same mower and have had for about 3 years. No issues, just keep your blade sharpened and that will extend your battery life. Agree completely on the vortex propaganda. A tip for your moles, put used coffee grounds where they are and other areas you don’t want them and they will leave. I have battled moles for 5 years then saw this method and a mole moved in and immediately left. So far so good.

I have this mower how do you make it more sensitive or less I never did get an instruction booklet with it when I bought it, thank you.

I was going to buy one new off market place for a discounted price, but after watching this video I changed my mind. I love toros cut quality since I use a Timemaster, but a 3+ hour charge time for a 25 min use is pretty terrible. Thanks for honest review, glad I didn’t get one.

I have this mower and grew to like it very much. I had to get used to it coming from my trusty Craftsman self propelled gas mower. I don't frett about the battery charge time because I have three 7.5, one 6, and one 4 ah batteries (so many cuz I also bought the 26" snow blower that included 2 large batteries). Besides that, I don't need speed charging the way I would need it for my phone or laptop. I know I'm going to cut my lawn, so I prepare in advance. I have learned that the battery discharge times are greatly affected by grass length and density. I now know to cut my darn grass at least twice a week, or I will get kind of close to going through all three 7ah batteries on my .50+ acre dense KB/TT fescue lawn. It always looks GREAT though 😀 Personal Pace is actually a very nice feature! I thought it was weired at first, but now I love it! I do HATE that they cheaped out and dif not include a batyery gauge. Thats BS considering the cost of the mower and high cost batteries - they couldn't include a stupid wire and LED to tell me my battery is about to die instead of just shutting down?! 🤨👎 I also don't care for the cheap thin metal 4 seperate mower height adjustments. I like the flexability to independently change each wheel, but the metal levers ate very thin, and diffucult to see each adjustment. Overall, I'm happy with it because the cut is BEAUTIFUL, and the mower is pretty darn dutable. I can't say I woukd purchase again because I have no exoeeience with other batteey powered mowers. However, compared to my bad boy gas Craftsman, I haven't used the gas mower in a couple of years...as long as I continue to cut twice a week 😅

Thanks! You should do a review of corded electric mowers. Power output from them is better. A 21" deck is usually 13 amps and at 120v that equals 1550watts. The battery of the toro is 60v 6Ah so if you drain it in a half hour its 60v 12Amps, 720 watts, less than 1hp. So Im thinking of going ac corded for a mower.

I have this mower for 3 years! Batteries are still wonderful. Recharging time and run time does not bother me much 😂 I am only not using this one as much as I moved on to 30 in Greenworks riding mower 😅. As I am getting older .6 acre mowing with “self propelled push” mower is becoming a challenge. If anyone who likes the gas mower quality with almost no maintenance(blade sharpening and cleanjng the deck), I highly recommend this. Their 60v string trimmer is one of the best as well.

Nice, in the market for a new mower. Thanks!

The front baffle under the deck on the Recycler has a "bumped-out" section that does not exist on the Super Recycler or most other mowers What is the purpose of that shape? I notice when I pull my recycler backwards that it always leaves a pile of clippings on the lawn. I also notice that the front baffle on Recycler does not extend down as far as the rest of the deck does. Is there grass shooting under the baffle in front or getting caught in the the baffle "notch" on my Recycler that is causing the dropped clippings when pulling backwards?

Thanks for posting, great review! Do you have a brand or model that you would recommend for someone new to electric mowers? My lawn is about 10,000 square ft, I've been using and maintaining the same Toro mower since 2002.. Now the piston rings are bad and I just want to move on. I watched your video on the Craftsman v20 and was pretty impressed, so I'm thinking about that one or the Kobalt 40v or the Skil 40v, but definitely open to any advice, thanks!

My brother just bought this mower, I have the Super Recycler 21564. Personal Pace can be adjusted on the gas models to be more or less responsive, not sure on the electric one's and the Vortex is supposed to "suck" air but i agree it's a gimmick at best, well at least I haven't noticed a difference in cut quality compared to other recyclers/super recyclers.

I have to agree with you on toro battery! How do we get toro to increase battery life or is there a software upgrade or something?

I have a small front lawn and the back is raised beds and flagstone. Got tired of gas lawn equipment and the constant failure of plastic parts. Looked into battery lawn mowers and the batteries are all proprietary, locking a person into a brand, or spend tons of dough for different battery types. Decided to step between the horns of the dilemma and bought an Austrian style scythe instead. There's a learning curve, but the satisfaction from a correct swath is amazing.

I was all in on the Toro 60V system for a couple of years, but found the standard Recycler to be underpowered with bad battery life… plus very poor at bagging. So I thought “why not try out the Super Recycler?” (Which by the way - you reviewed the regular recycler and NOT the super recycler). Well - the Super Recycler was an absolute dud. Horrendous fit and finish, deck not level, bent handlebars, chintzy plastics, and that gigantic Personal Pace handlebar was just goofy and cumbersome in tight spots. Migrated to the Milwaukee mower and never looked back - the thing is a beast and super comfortable to use (agree with your review on that one as well). Sold off the rest of my Toro 60V tools and went all in on Milwaukee OPE. Since all my general power tools are Milwaukee as well - makes things really convenient. Really enjoy your channel and reviews. Thanks again!

This is not the super recycler. Tis is toro’s lower end recycler series. The super recycler is black and has a cast aluminum deck and a different blade/ mulching system. Not sure if run time would be different on a super recycler or not.

Thanks for the review. I have to wonder if your battery or charger might be faulty. The newer model mowers and snow throwers now come with 7.5 ah batteries. I have a 7.5 and it normally takes under 2 hours to charge complete.

I have the Toro Super Recycler and mow my 1/4 acre twice on one charge. Sounds like you have the switch turned from auto to max. In auto mode it lasts much longer. I've never needed the max mode. My lawn looks much like yours. I agree the battery takes several hours to charge. But this has not been a problem since it lasts two mowings. This is the 2nd Personal Pace mower I've owned. I bought my current one specifically because this feature is so much better than any other self-propelled system I have used. It is very smooth, predictable, and lasts forever (my old mower is over 20 yrs old and has mowed 6.5 miles of mountain bike trail every year in addition to my yard). There is absolutely no "lurching" as you describe. If yours is not the best self-propelled system you have ever used then there is an issue with it. Check your cable adjustment and belt. Good video though. Thanks.

Do you think that the 30 min. run time is low because it's also using power to self-propel itself?

Thanks for your time making this video! 3:05 - This model is unable to side discharge. You can tell that by looking at the right hand side. The deck is solid without any discharge cut out. 4:32 & 8:10 - Stupid question, but are you saying you held your hand under the deck to test the airflow? I am guessing not since that means you wouldn't have a hand anymore, but the wording confused me :D I am guessing you activated the mower, rigged the handle to stay on (or may just have long enough arms you can hold onto the bail as well as reach the front grill), and then put your hand over the grate on the topside to see if there was suction, but not sure. Regarding run times, I am guessing the 'up to' generally indicate the least amount of load on the machine that most people would put, probably weekly maintenance? I did notice it looked like the setting was on 'auto' which is a more fair test than 'max' as it allows the machine to regulate it's own performance (and thereby more battery life) but including that piece of information as well as a quick satellite measurement of the cut area will help you be more scientific or standardized in your reviews. ("In X minutes of runtime it cut Y acres on the 'auto' setting") Keep up the good videos!

Thanks for the review. Very helpful. I think the one thing that I would question is whether the vortex feature is truly hype. Just because one can't feel a breeze or a vacuum might not necessarily mean it's not doing anything. It may be why the cut results are so good. I think only a taped vs un-taped grate test would truly prove one way or the other. I also know Toro makes a fast charger. Seems like that should be the default charger with high workload units like mowers and blowers. Why sell half-baked kits? Sheesh! Thanks again.

bro you keep comin out with the hits!

i hate personal pace too i had that mower; i just wondered why am i pushing the mower; personally i like the ones that pull me around

Awesome review. Succinct and to the point. Have been considering buying this mower. I think I'll pass on buying one.

Ok, first the votex pulls air under the deck when the blades are spinning not out the top. Second, the Personal Pace is Adjustable for how you want it to respond to your walking speed. You can make more sensitive or less . The Toro does not have a great run time but you actually get a real mower blade underneath not slimy thin blade that other use to help in there run time. Lastly you can buy a bigger battery (7.5 amp) and a fast charger instead of the normal charger. We should all know buy now a fast charger will degregrate a lithium battery faster than a slower charger.

Appreciate your honesty with the thumbs down. The best attribute of this mower besides the cut quality, is the mulch door switch, the only function where this mower stands out. Have heard the personal pace takes some getting use to, and have seen in other reviews where people did not like the side-to-side slop of the handle as you mow. Have always been a big Toro gas fan, though they have yet to bring their A-game to bear in the E-mower market place. 60V SUPER Recycler customers seem to be happy and loyal to that machine, though Toro’s new composite deck stripe mowers have yet to establish a foot hold in the market place, and Toro hasn’t been doing much to promote them.

I own one of these. My complaints with this mower: Not enough vacuum (I put a Toro gas mower recycler (atomic) blade on it and it's a little better but drains battery faster. Still not real good). Leaves a pile of clippings when you pull the mower backwards. I think it may have to do with the design of the front baffle under the deck which has a "bump-out" in the front, but not sure. I may try to make my own smooth baffle to test it out. Can leave a trail of clippings on the right edge of the mower if going too fast of taking off too much grass at one time. (my lawn is very thick, lush tall turf fescue) Needs a switch to manually keep it in high speed mode. Does anyone know a hack to do this? While the wheels look cool, the square edge design makes the front wheels/tires kind of "grabby" when trying to make gradual turns in thick grass. (the kind of turn where you don't lift the front of the mower) Almost every other mower known to man uses wheels with rounded "shoulders/edges" which makes it easier to make these kinds of turns. The cheap switch under the blue start button stopped working shortly after purchase and I had to open the assembly and bend the lever on the microswitch up so it could be depressed enough to actuate. The cables stick out where the handle meets the deck and can catch on shrubs and things. The 4 separate wheel adjusters are the cheapest, most inconvenient ones available. The ones in the back are even hard to read and get to. The Personal pace handle should never have been changed from the original design to the new huge "steering wheel" look. "Auto-Drive"! Marketing fluff. The deck is bent from the factory so that one front wheel does not touch the ground, even on my concrete driveway. The lack of a REAL side discharge is disappointing, but it allows Toro to use thinner steel in the deck as that area will be less of a fatigue point. (I don't really care though because I never side discharge) Personal Pace hangs up when pulling backwards too often. My Toro Timemaster is nowhere near as bad. Mower has no LED lights. Batteries take a long time to recharge. Not sure that "Vortex technology" is really doing anything much. Tried taping it closed and see no difference when mulching. I think they tried to make the mower look cool with the vortex "Hood scoop" the wider looking square edged wheels and a handle that looks like a chunk of a car steering wheel, but I feel like those are pure marketing gimmicks and actually hurt the performance of the mower in some ways. I own other "top rated" battery mowers too, but I think that these are not ready for prime time unless you are absolutely non-critical about your lawn's appearance, and have a postage stamp sized yard. If you fertilize and irrigate I would stick with gas powered equipment.

Thank-you! 🙂❕️

The forty minute run time only happens with the 7.5 amp hr battery. The trick to having the V60 series Recyclers is to own another cordless Toro power tool and have both batteries charged before beginning your mow.

Does Toro finally sell 10 amp/hr, 12 amp/hr, and 15 amp/hr batteries like EGO cordless power tools company does? How about the big Toro 2 stage snowblowers? Did Toro finally make them direct drive like the EGO snowblower? instead of belt drive. With the belt drive system, there is loss of power. I am really happy about the Toro automatic shut-off system, which prevents any damages if something is accidentally caught in the auger. The Toro will sense there's something jamming the auger or impeller and automatically shut the unit down. How about with the Toro lawnmowers? Do they automatically shut off if we accidentally run over a stump or rock? Thank you, and keep up with all the improvements. 👍🏻🙏🏼

They have a EGO Lawn Mower with 60 mintue life and they give you 2 batteries. I hae a 16 yer old Toro Super Recycler Personial Pace works good going forward but is a pain int the but to back up and turn around. I may buy a Front Wheel Drive one

Guy, wish you did snowblowers too.

Great, honest review as always Tyler!..Toro did sell out and I think most of their battery operated tools aren’t worth the price. Battery operated TimeMaster would be a good test item…But then again, as much as it costs and it’s underwhelming performance, maybe not!..Keep up the good work!

This is literally one of their current gas mower designs with an electric motor and battery housing in place of the Briggs engine. You can unbolt the electric unit and drop a Briggs engine on there, and it will become the gas mower.

Vortex is an INTAKE! It's meant to improve airflow under the deck to achieve that great cut quality you mentioned. Sometimes, you have to actually read the marketing materials. SMH.

In 2021 I bought this mower. I was very underwhelmed with it. I questioned if I liked it. I thought about returning it but thought it might get better. It grew on me and I kinda liked it. 2 years later the battery doesn’t last in normal mowing conditions for more than 15-20 minutes when it used to be 35-40 min for me. I’m kicking myself for not going with a different mower. I’m trying to get the battery warrantied and replaced. But even if so I’m still regretting this buy. #suckered

Most people with electric tools have at least 2 batteries, so you can swap one out while the other one charges. You need more run time, get more batteries. Not really a problem.

I'll stick with gas and not worry about time restrictions 👍

Try the makita xtg mower

I was a toro personal pace guy for 10 yrs but made the leap to electrics...Toro didn't make this mower 5 yrs ago so I went with EGO and have never looked back....i own 6 EGO tools now and could not be happier...Toro basically threw an electric motor on a gas chassis while EGO re-invented the whole machine and I love it....great run time, interchangeable batteries to each device and excellent performance...Toro was just late to the party and lost my money...great review

Mine keeps shutting off and beeping. I have read it’s overheating will cause this. Junk I have the smallest backyard.

I have the gas personal pace version and it took maybe 4 mows before I realized I will never have a mower without it. walk and don't fight it.

To wait that long to charge is brutal

Honda does have a electric motor EGX really want one for my Reel buuut its spendy

With the disappointment that Toro lawnmowers have been for me, I think it's safe to assume Toro will screw this up as well. I liked the Toro snow blowers but even they have become somewhat half-baked recently. Granted, Honda's gone from the lawn mowing market in North America, but the mowers are still made incredibly well and will outlast anything Toro is making or has ever made. I grew up with a Honda HR214 that lasted for 27 years and have another Honda HR214 that's over 30 years old. There are other mowers from Scag and Ferris (I don't like Briggs and Stratton but the FW15 is an impressive looking machine with a Honda GXV390 engine) that I will consider before investing in another Toro with transmission and blade brake clutch design issues. I mean, why a belt in a blade brake clutch? Just use an actual clutch. Personal Pace? It's the belted blade brake clutch problem again. Get a hydrostatic transmission, for crying out loud. Vortex technology...Honda's had that on its mowers since 1984 with the HRS21 (the cooling fan from the engine is under the deck making the engine upside down) as well as the HR214 up to and including the HRC216HX series. I noticed you had two Hondas in the background between your garage and your truck at the end of the video. Stick with those. They'll last longer than the planned obsolescence allows for battery powered anything.

Thanks for proving that Toro battery mower in junk. Love everything about my Milwaukee and the Ego is also ok with its long battery life.

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problem with these electric mowers is the price of the batteries, unbelievable how much they cost 😐

The lowest on this mower is 1.25", not 1". Also on your site, you talk about the top 5 electric mowers for 2023 and call the Toro mower a Super Recycler but show an image of a Recycler. You also describe it as red but the Super Recycler is black. From review on site, "Toro nailed this one" but here, it's denied?

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My MIL got this at the start of covid, battery used to last the whole lawn with self propel, now it does half way thru, garbage

You sound like a 60yo guy wrapped in a 35yo body. Battery power is the present and future. I’m 60yo and I’m gasoline free with 2 batteries and a mower, blower, and trimmer. The power of battery lawn tools has caught up with gas, it’s not close. I use Ego but I’m sure other brands are just as good.

You don't have the personal pace down right. You are wrong on this. You are on the battery lights, it sucks.

Great Video! Charge time is ridiculous ! Looks cheap....I will not buy this!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah not for me any of these toys ice for me hands down maybe I’ll take another look in 15 yrs from now NOT!!!!!

You just do not know how to use the Personal Pace system. Never push your hands just walk faster or slower.

Concerning the vortex technology, it could be a hidden design feature in the deck and blade that makes for a finer or less clumpy discharge. Sometimes refinements like that are given a visual design element that amount to nothing more than badging, just to show what can't be seen in a showroom.

Personal Pace I hate it 👎

Toro no thank you

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Too much annoying safety bullshit features on these newer mowers. Thank god I still own a 1982 lawn boy 2 stroke

HEY THERE IS GRAVITY ON MARS...BUT NO GRASS......GREAT REVIEWS THOUGH.......I THINK I'M GOING MILWAUKEE