Thank you! I included it at the very end so you can still see it, but it’s not used in the comparison.

Thanks, Marcus. I think that’s fair and why I still included Turbo at the end. Appreciate you watching and commenting!

Thank you! I was super torn up about it and didn’t know which way to take it. Appreciate you watching and commenting!

Yeah that’s a good point. I wrestled with this one on multiple videos. Appreciate your story and glad your dad likes his battery powered mower!

@@TheLawnReview I don't think people test cars by limiting to "normal acceleration" or "only press half way on the paddle on EV cars" or "can not exceed 4,000rpm...just to be fair??" but always maximum limitation of the gas/EV motors... are the complainers gas mower owners?🤣🤣 Does not a gas mower uses more petrol fuel with less runtime per fill up (at higher cost) when running at higher rpm (if, they can!) or encounter thick/wet grass or when modified to run at higher rpm? How is that different than battery mowers/ The fact is, without regular maintenance (oil, spark, filter, belt, fuel...) on the gas motor, it's power decreases much more than when it's new vs a brushless motor (look mom, no rushes!!) will provide it's peak power more consistently as long as the battery retaining it's charge over 80%.

Thanks for watching and commenting. You make some great points - you really can’t go wrong with trusty gas. I hope battery continues to improve because it’s a better experience overall

I feel like Ego is quite close with this one. Improve the screamy-winey Touch Drive sound and button-delay, give us a sturdy blade that's at least 21" long (that one is actually 20 & 7/8th inches even though it says 22" on the deck decal and is thin, soft metal) and give us two 10,000 mAh batteries so that we can cover the same sq footage a gasser can at 3,350 rpm... and do it all for the price of a premium gas mower ($800-$1,000). They do that and at least the performance and initial value will be there. Still, one has to add the cost of new batteries every 4-5 years ($500 ish each). That's the REAL hurdle for electric and its a legitimate roadblock for now.

Yeah thanks for that I really wrestled with whether or not to use it, which is why I included it at the end. How do you like your ego stuff?

Love it. I like the freedom that battery power gives. My gas powered equipment always started and ran because I would drain the gas and store the tool properly if I wasn't going to use it within a month. Then I would change the oil, air filter, plug, etc every season. It worked great but I didn't like the maintenance. I gave it all away and bought Ego everything. Ego makes incredible products and has an a great team of engineers designing them.

@buddsquirrel4115 I tend to agree with you. I don’t have as much time to be spending maintaining my mower these days when there’s a great alternative that’s super easy to fire up after the winter. Still will use gas every now and then though

I really wrestled with whether or not to include it. I got skewered on my other video by using it. That’s why I chose to still include it, but only at the end and not as part of the evaluation.

Man thank you so much for the kind words! I tried to remain as unbiased as possible because both are spectacular mowers. I’ll take your advice on that front wheel, too. Appreciate the kind words!

What did u buy?

Thank you! Added it to the description. This is the EGO LM2200SP aluminum deck mower!

That’s a great point. I honestly mow on turbo too but was worried it wouldn’t be a fair comparison since gas doesn’t have that

Can’t go wrong with that mower! Yours will last 100 years most likely. You saw that old one I passed haha. Yes the EGO one is probably my favorite electric mower I’ve ever used (which is a lot)

I love electric but you have a gem of the mower world. Honda engines are where it's at.

⁠@@nicoctane1669 thanks ! I agree Honda engines are to me the best too….i bought this mower 6 years ago and it’s running as good as new

@juan.rocha-gonzalez Keep taking care..she'll treat you good for a long time.

Thanks Mark!!!!

Thanks for the kind words. Gas is a lot of maintenance and electric is hit or miss. With the right electric, you can have the best set up. My neighbors are used to this by now haha.

@@TheLawnReview nothing! 😂

Great example lol

@@TheLawnReview that’s my new favorite thing of yours beating out the longstanding “crispy”.

Yes this one does

Oh wow I need to check that one out. I haven’t used any of their commercial stuff yet. Have you?

@@TheLawnReview not yet

That's amazing...

@@TheLawnReview Just re-viewed the video and it is the EGO LMX5300 PRO. When I looked it up online , here in the states one dealer had it for $1200. Great videos! You've got me doing research!👍

I think this is stock mulching blades. The high lift would perform better on the cut check but worse on the bog down challenge

​@@TheLawnReviewdo you have a recommendation for a blade that is the best for reducing clogging? That's the main problem we have

I think you’re right in the long run. I got this Toro in the fall and used it once. Tried to fire it up for this video and it wouldn’t work. Took it to get serviced and they had to completely replace the carburetor.

Did you drain the carb before winter?

No but I kept it in my insulated garage and only used it once

I believe that motor has a plastic carb and it needs to be drained regardless of use. Gas can’t sit at the bottom of the bowl

@LL-mt2nz another thing you don’t have to worry about with electric! My first mower was a gas Troy Bilt and I had it for 10 years and never did that.

And I probably can’t make you believe that either haha. That thing can buy a beer! Good job.

Wow I’m really sorry to hear that. Which model?

This is a super level headed, well considered perspective. Thanks for sharing it and for watching!!

I bought a Ego mower in 2016, for about $450, that came with a 5ah battery and isn't self-propelled. One advantage to this push mower is it's much lighter. About 3 years ago, I noticed the battery performance getting weaker. I bought a Ego chainsaw with a 5ah battery for $350 in 2021. That came with a superior battery and I use it for the mower and the chainsaw. My original battery still works and I can swap it in to finish the lawn, when necessary. Other than the new battery, I've spent no money and very little time maintaining this lawnmower. I should have replaced my blade by now but it's still on the original and working well. I try to keep the mower and bag catcher reasonably clean. I have spent a couple hours maintaining my chainsaw and pole chainsaw, along with the string trimmer. I average about $15 per year for string line. There has been nearly no maintenance needed for the hedge trimmer, edging tool or lawnmower. My 2.5ah battery that came with the string trimmer in 2020 is still running perfectly and I swap it between the edger and hedge trimmer and I've rarely had the battery die while using all of them consecutively on the same day. The pole saw will also work on the 2.5ah battery but I use the 5ah battery with it too.

Wow I'm sorry to hear about that experience....hate to hear that customer service gave you the okie dokie

Greenworks is totally non-responsive too. Stick with gas. None of the electric mower companies have any service.

@rottimomtwo5477 hate that

Sadly, this is the reality of chemical batteries. I recommend staying away from electric until solid state batteries are in the market. The TCO for electric vehicles and larger lawn equipment is quite bad. High initial cost, low lifespan, and unrepairable.

Gas motors on push mowers simply because they aren't a powerful imo, the damn batteries are too expensive to replace. Then you have charging time for the batteries. Nope like my Toros, both gas!!

Oooh that’s a great idea

Which one will you give a try?

Wow that’s really really impressive

The good old days!

1989 was when I bought my first Black & Decker M3300 battery lawn mower to replace the MasterCraft gas mower my sisters can't handle when I was away in school. I am sure they did not sell many back then! Not great until I replaced it few years later with a refurbished CM1000 for almost 9-10 years than got a free replacement due to recall to a CM1200 for another 4-5 years before another Black + Decker and than the first EGO mower LM2102SP in 2018. LM2206SP is definitely a level up in every way!

That’s the holy Trinity right there!

Yep I agree. It was a tough choice not to include it but I got raked over the coals last time...

@@TheLawnReviewSeems like you can never please everyone. So you just have to use your best judgment.

I’ll see if I can get my hands on it!

Yeah I am not a huge Ryobi fan

You don’t! Great find and glad you like yours

That’s a good test to add to my challenge. Short answer is yes but who knows how long

I was wondering about that myself even though I don't have a 40° lawn. Last week I wanted to surprise a friend who was away for 3 weeks in another city with a section of lawn that is 6 feet wide 20 feet long ~45° down to the backyard plus the same angle ramp (~5 feet long) to get onto the lawns between the horse shoe driveway. He has switched to a non-propelled gas mower due to the self propelled gas mower he had would just chew up the lawn under the rear wheels and not going up the hill. I packed 8 batteries thinking it will be a massive challenge to the LM2206SP to completed the 4,000 sf of 12"~16" tall grass before the 1 hour drive. Anti-climate warming! I only used one 12.0Ah battery with the standard mulching blade at 4" deck high with blade speed 2 and the self propelled between 1-4 speed to go up the hill with no hesitation and ease on the moist but not wet lawn surfaces. Very surprised and pleased with the end result.

@Jeo-What That's good to know ! I know it's a matter of overall mower weight as well besides the mowing direction. I have a lighter Honda 216 single speed, but mowing Cross a steep hill , number one it's too fast, number 2 it starts to hop sideways down the hill. The heavier , slower speed setting 217 stays in place. But you know, there are times when you have to actually mow up and down, or turn on a steep grade, and you have to muscle the mower with its wheels spinning to get to your next direction whether side to side or diagnol up and down.. The electric mower , I would think, "should " be lighter. Maybe works to their advantage ??? I really don't get a whole lot out of these comparison tests because they're all mostly on perfect lawns ! Come here and test one on my lawn ! THAT'S a Test ..! Lol. 😁

@@joeserrenti9857 A very good point you mentioned about the drive speed of the gas mower. My friend did mention his gas mower was going too fast while tearing up the grass going uphill without speed control and since my mower can set the speed and that is why it was able to gain traction based on the surface. I was wonder if Ryobi's AWD mower would do a better job when descending down the hill while I had to hold back my mower not to freefall down the hill but as you said, only real live test can tell the truth on it's own.

@Jeo-What I also want to throw in why , In my case, a "personal pace mower " is useless.... ( yes Toro that's you ! ) So I'm going uphill, push forward and it goes faster .... NO ...Common' These companies kill me with their engineering ....!?!??

Wow that's crazy....hate to hear that.

Hey that’s a good point! That makes me feel better about it haha

I wish I knew small engines as well as you!

Thanks man

Yeah that’s a good point! Thanks for calling that out about the Toro

Thanks that’s what I was thinking!

Now I need to try that…

Toro makes a discharge chute also.

You’re probably mostly right.

Yep hoping the scales tip over time but who knows. Can't see electric getting THAT cheap

You are correct about the cost is higher in Canada ($1,349.00+tax on sale); however, once factor into the high Canadian gas price 🤯not only for the gas lawn mower that requires non-eternal fuel (mostly Shell's expansive fuel) but also the fuel cost of driving your vehicle (hopefully not a heavy truck or SUV) to go & return from the gas stations and store them vs. charging multiple batteries inside the comfort of a home that you can charge them at off peak hours vs the mercy of gas prices going up and own almost EVERY DAY.... I prefer the trad off of battery tools especially even after a Canadian snowstorm with my 12 batteries (4.0Ah to 12.0Ah) collected from past 6-7 years by choosing the battery + tools carefully to deal even with power outages.

Hmm. Paper towel? Vinegar?

I completely agree. So much easier to use

Wow I need to check that one out. 40 years??

Good deal!!!

I like the EGO better than the Ryobi by a lot!

@@TheLawnReview Hey, awesome! I'll look more into that EGO and see if it's sold near me. The selection is limited where I live, but maybe I'll get lucky. 😉

​@@TheLawnReview Turns out there is a place that has them near me. I also noticed they have a newer model: the EGO Power+ LM2156SP 21 in. 56 V Battery Self-Propelled Lawn Mower Kit (Battery & Charger) with a 10.0 AH battery for $749.00. Is it worth picking up this model over the one you reviewed? The one you review seems to be selling at the moment locally for $699.00. with EGO Select Cut 21 in. Mulching Dual Mower Blade for Walk-Behind Mowers 1pk for $44.99. I guess that will put the prices close to each other. Update: EGO Power+ LM2135SP 21 in. 56 V Battery Self-Propelled Lawn Mower Kit (Battery & Charger) W/ 7.5 AH BATTERY selling at Ace Hardware for $599.00. I am considering getting this one.

Good luck!

@@TheLawnReview Thanks and my apologies, the one you reviewed is $1,199.00. Lol, I was looking at the wrong model. However, it seems a lot of them are similar to a degree, with the exception of different batteries and features.

Wow - why wouldn’t you buy a current Toro?

@TheLawnReview to clarify, I wouldn't buy any mower made in the last 5 years, lol. I restore older mowers. New mowers are all built to a price point. The new Super Recyler vs the SR4 and especially the older Super Recyler has tons of compromises. Plastic transmission, thinner aluminum, no clutches at the wheels, and the engines are much poorer quality. To be fair, a Super Recyler built in 2000 would be about $1200 now with inflation. The John Deere mowers with Kawasaki engines were $1000 in 2000 dollars. Most homeowners wouldn't pay that much today and probably don't care about the differences.

What??

Wow that’s a lot of mowing! Guess you live somewhere in the Deep South?

No I'm in NY but I've spent the past 4or5 years building up the lawn . It's become my stress release. Smaller lot makes it easier. I'm on my 4th mow this season already. A soil test in my yard would get me in trouble 😅

Do it!!

Yeah that’s a good point if you can get it all that cheap. The time cost has got to be factored in too

Yeah, your tine is worth something. Gas prices can get pretty steep too in places like California

They make some darn good mowers!

Yep! Pros and cons. Thanks for watching.

Lol!!! No one informed me about that rule! Whoopsie

Never day never! Honda is leaving the gas mower game…

I’ve heard they don’t last as long but I’ve never had a problem

Yeah that’s probably right - depends on if you want gas to get stale

Agreed, my lot is the same size as yours, I use a Honda HRX, and I cut about twice a week and I don't go through more than 10 gallons a year and that's including my walk behind edger, a leaf blower/vac, a weed whacker, and a two-stage snowblower in the winter. It's obvious he's steering the outcome for Ego. Like the $550 maintenance cost he arbitrarily made up for the Toro but leaves out Ego batteries don't last past 4 years and cost up to $600 each depending on size. As for my Honda I have had to replace one rear wheel in the 15 years I have owned it which was about $20 and probably less than $20 for oil over it's lifetime.

Haha good point

What do you mean?

I agree with you there

Thanks Kyle!

Hmm what do you use it for? It’s got a lot of torque. Good for bigger lawns or thicker brush

Thank you for responding so fast. I love your channel. My lawn is not that big. I have centipede grass

@1psyurmind200 it’s a sick mower but honestly probably not worth it if you have a smaller lawn with centipede

Love to hear it! Which is your favorite?

Thanks! It was tough for me to decide so I included the turbo at the end

Yes

How much is your time worth?? Doing all that maintenance. I’m smoking something apparently!! Thanks for watching man

I agree. It’s a 10 to 15 min job tops to replace oil. I do all of my small engine oil changes at once and it only takes me 20 mins tops (pressure washer, mower, and tiller). I’ve never replaced a spark plug unless I’ve had to. A 5 gallon tank of fuel will run all my machines all year long with some left over. I do feel there was some bias in the totals at the end. That being said, I’m pretty handy with a wrench and not everyone falls into the same category. I can see someone like my mom going for the electric mower to not deal with any maintenance or hauling fuel. It just depends on your situation. I’m considering going electric because I have a massive line up of dewalt batteries for my tools and I could store the mower in a standing position in my garage that’s really space limited. I’m just not sold yet because of run times. I already have the flexvolt weed eater and that thing is what opened my eyes to the power of modern electric tools. It’s really powerful and outperformed my previous gas weed eater. I think I’ll just wait for my mower to die before I go electric on that one….so maybe in 10 years lol.

Nice haha. Im about to try out the newest Dewalt mower and I’ll let you know how it goes. Thanks for watching and commenting.

2 gallons a season? Small yard huh?

@@huntsonora SHOTS FIRED

I'll crunch again!

@@TheLawnReview The tank on a push mower is ~1/4 gal tank and likely would do a bit under 1.5 mows on a 1/2 acre I would think. So maybe 1/5 gallon per week if mowed once per week so ~20$ a year if 1/2 year weekly mows with some left over for a tasty candy bar.

@patricksquires6348 I see that math and it makes sense. Don’t you want to use fresh gas though?

@@TheLawnReview ? If using ethanol gas I would want to replace it monthly but does not add up to 5x the gas at a gallon per week no?

@patricksquires6348 no I think you’re right

How many lawns will you mow in a day?

@@TheLawnReview I’m trying to do about 5 at most in a day

@ieatcantaloupes1232 honestly - I’d go grab a cheap gas mower from Home Depot so that you don’t have to worry about recharging the batteries.

Troy Bilt TB series is good at Home Depot. Anything with a Honda Engine.

Try to find a used Toro Super Recycler

Wow man I’m sorry to hear that!

Amazon sell ego comparible batteries for Much cheaper than the actual Ego batteries.

@leonwhite3000 yep some knock offs

Yep just agree with you. A tough one for commercial purposes.

Not until Joe Biden forces you too!

@@TheLawnReview then I will buy a motorless push reel mower!. LOL!.. now seriously, WHAT about professionals who mow grass for a living? I heard a pro say recently that a good gas powered professional grade zero turn mower costs $10,000-$12,000 while a comparable pro battery powered mower cost $24000-$28000!!! what will they do??? triple thier fees and go out of business??

Yep. Idk what they are gonna do. Probably have to get some license and pay fees for gas

Right!?!!??

Did you watch??

@@TheLawnReview Watched enough! When it's runs 5 years, and it runs the same then you can tell me that it's better!

@@TheLawnReview How many hours of charging before you can finish your mow? a minute?

@@TheLawnReview How many batteries do you have to buy to finish the mow?

@@TheLawnReview How much will it cost to charge when everyone is FORCED to use electric for EVERYTHING? Crap how are you gonna charge it when there are rolling brown/black outs?

It’s not going anywhere

Wow! That's a strong endorsement for battery. The gas folks are reeling

hahaha okay fine

What’s your favorite gas mower?

Oh yeah? Which mower do you use??

I use a 22 year old Toro Super Recycler! I’m the OG owner. I’ve debated upgrading, but then look at the price of a new mower and think…. I can get another season out of her. Matter of fact, just bought a new spark plug, filter and oil. It cost me $34 which was shockingly high!

@katzsteel wow !! Probably looks like that one I walked by haha. Keep getting all the mileage out of that thing that you can. You got it when Bill Clinton was in office

@@TheLawnReview Yeah, last year it wasn’t starting on the second pull, so it may be getting time to send it out to pasture. I’ve been eyeing the EGO’s for a looong time. 😂

@katzsteel may be time to retire it. The EGOs are probably the best in the space but Greenworks has some good stuff at a lower price point too

That’s a good point.

It’s a good point. However for someone not mechanically inclined, lawn mower repair shops are charging $150 for tune ups (spark plug, air filter, clean carb, sharpen blade) these days.

I agree with you. Not only that electric has most the money up front in costs compared to repeatedly buying gas. It also saves you time, battery in & go no oil or gas. Time has its special value, and the electric just provides that.​@Jmanmadness23

the average person doesn't know how to fix or change anything you just said. i made one post on the nextdoor app about helping an older neighbor and i literally had over 70 messages people asking for price. to do tune ups

@houseofmalachor7425 yep

Thank you!

Thanks for watching !! Which one are you going with?

Haha nice! Don’t think it’s going anywhere

How much does one of those mowers from the 80s cost now?

James why don’t you run that silly test on your own channel and see how many people care.

But they have a 5 year warranty… the batteries do

5yr battery warranty. You’re covered.

Haha what makes you say that???

Welp - thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

A turbo button is NOT a marketing gimmick. It helps for suction especially in the fall for sucking up leaves. And any mower with a turbo button it's going to ON all the time. The increase in RPM speed is noticeable.

No I actually mostly agree with you. Definitely not built for every lawn.

Give me a break man. I’ve got a Toro gas zero turn and a Honda push mower. Both gas. I couldn’t care less what you buy. My only motivation is putting out the most informative and entertaining content I can.

What was wrong with it?

Hahaha I don’t think they will go away anytime soon. Too many people would revolt!