Watch Tywin Lannister Put King Joffrey in His Place!

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Tywin Lannister schools King Joffrey

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@Vethroka Жыл бұрын

Dance is such an on-character casting for the role of Tywin. There's a lot of subtleties at play here. -He uses appropriate royal terms, but does not bow to Joffrey. -Joffrey complains about the Small Council meetings, which he does not attend. -Tywin DOES attend, and uses the same argument of travel time for ACTUAL work. -When spoken to in a demanding way, he steps forward; causing Joffrey to recoil slightly. -Tywin is tall, he towers over Joffrey (great camera work) -The symbol of the Hand of the King is worn at an angle, not upright. -Tywin leans into Joffrey being a child, telling him he can be "carried" if desired. -Joffrey, petulant little sadist that he is, correctly brings attention to a potential threat. -One of Tywin's few, but blatant, weaknesses is exposed. Concerned only with the here and now. -Scene ends with Tywin not waiting to be dismissed. He pauses twice, readjusting himself to the center steps. All this in 3 freaking minutes. 1 min of which is done in complete silence.

@Vethroka Жыл бұрын

Furthermore, I've seen entire 2.5h MOVIES do what I've seen in 3 mins here.

@CrowsComputer 5 ай бұрын

Well spotted! I noticed another when he is entering with the kingsguard, he pauses briefly and they stop behind him and follow no further. They would do this for almost no one else and be right behind them all the way up to the king, but they know who he is

@aprilshowersstormtrooper 5 ай бұрын

Another thing you’ve missed: Tywin climbs the stairs dramatically, mirroring his stated “you can be carried up the stairs if you wish”

@dictatordan1 5 ай бұрын

great observations but I think the hand pin is always worn askew like that (Ned & Tyrion)

@gwyn111 5 ай бұрын

What the hell happened in Season 8! D&D were perfectly capable of adapting and augmenting the books brilliantly. Such a shame.

@mikesantander6923 7 ай бұрын

Actually one of the few scenes where joffery is showing intelligence. He’s genuinely concerned about the issue to the east and how to solve it.

@AidanMclaren 6 ай бұрын

Sadly Tywin, in the process of trying to set his grandson straight, doesn't take him or the issue he raised seriously.

@muhammadesa2517 5 ай бұрын

He should attend the meetings then

@jlassijlali290 5 ай бұрын

ّJoffrey: complaining about potentially having to walk up stairs to attend council meetingّ Do you think he is care! this is just show of power and who is wielding! it

@standarddeviation7963 5 ай бұрын

There is a moment where Tywin truly could have fostered actual wherewithal in his grandson to learn what it takes to be a king and instead he uses it to dab on him. Because he didn't want Joffery to be a king, he wanted Joffery to be a puppet.

@hibbidyjibbidyy 5 ай бұрын

hes genuinly goncerned abouit hbit grandpa

@mysteryjunkie9808 5 ай бұрын

“May I ask why?” Joffrey has never been that polite with anyone else

@ajdominguez1002 5 ай бұрын

He knows not to f*** around with Tywin. He knows Tyron will hold a mask over his face, dispose of joffrey, and will plant Tommen on the iron throne

@frankie3357 4 ай бұрын

@@Inebriated_Goat if joffrey called for tywins execution nothing would happen, tywin pays the kingsguard, and the guards, and the executioners lol it's why joffrey knows not to fuck with him, tywin is THE most powerful man in westeros

@insultlk 3 ай бұрын

Really goes to show how dangerous Tywin is. That someone like Joffrey who treats all his peers and comrades like rats is so polite to his grandfather😂😂

@bradley5305 3 ай бұрын

Because he knows better.

@jojocasimir1118 2 ай бұрын

lol Fr I was like finally somebody that will put him in his place

@goth9ever 5 ай бұрын

"Whenever nessesary" = "When i fucking feel like it!"

@newperve Ай бұрын

Remember he's to be "appropriately" counseled on "important" matters. They're is no less than 3 outs [EDIT: Tywin] gave himself.

@diocletian607 Ай бұрын

Yeah ALWAYS be extremely wary of having any dealings with people who play these word games. These people can justify lying to you through the use of a single qualifier

@DittyDafku 8 күн бұрын

Caught that too, was a sly attack that he knew Joffrey was too stupid to catch

@claudiuflorea2090 Күн бұрын

@@newperveI was going to say the same thing kuddos to you for catching it, you must be a good manipulator also 😅

@betancourtj3 5 ай бұрын

“You are being counseled at this very moment.” Such a badass delivery.

@victorcharles27 3 ай бұрын

Sounds like snape 😊😢

@bluegent7 25 күн бұрын

Only if Tywin came by his own volition to counsel his king on the matter at that moment. Otherwise it falls flat and speaks against him as being negligent.

@rockstoneballs 17 күн бұрын

I mean, Joffrey summoned him? So he was only being counselled because he demanded it

@andyfiggz7890 Жыл бұрын

As a power move tywin farted on the way down the stairs.

@cbozlol 7 ай бұрын

This is now canon

@nunyabiznes33 5 ай бұрын

Maybe this was his horse in disguise.

@ghamandlupin Ай бұрын

"you will marry that fart"

@thegrimmretails3777 29 күн бұрын

As a power move he’s been farting since he entered.

@Izabela-ek5nh 17 күн бұрын

@@thegrimmretails3777 I appreciate this picture, thank you 😂😂😂

@rahulpinnamaneni 5 ай бұрын

Joffrey sitting back, worried his grandpa would bitch-slap him is gold. 🤣

@tajajones7003 3 ай бұрын

Listen he knows how close and how often he gets the shit slapped out of him

@ViewerOnline101 5 ай бұрын

I love how he walked up the steps so that he stood over Joffrey to imply that he was above him despite their stations.

@SuperSparrow45 3 ай бұрын

Joffrey is the king, but Tywin is the money. The kingdom follows the latter over the former.

@Christrulesall2 3 ай бұрын

Yes. By doing that and joffrey not ordering him to be instantly killed for just walking up the steps to the throne, he asserted his dominance in power over him.

@paullowman9131 2 ай бұрын

And he was.

@SelfHatingLionsFan 2 ай бұрын

No. He was simply making a point....the point being how easy it was to climb a few stairs, and how ridiculous it was to have just said that shit. Watch it again.

@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 2 ай бұрын

@@SelfHatingLionsFanTwo things can be true at once. This was clearly conveying Tywin's dominance in the conversation, while also showing the idiocy of Joffery's concerns.

@johndennisvistal1200 5 ай бұрын

Tywin stopping to stop the kingsguard following him screams power.

@michaelbayer5094 3 ай бұрын

Yes, and it's so subtle. When I read the books and got to Tywin's death, I thought that the Lannisters will now be in trouble, When Tywin dies in the show, I thought, "will this be worth watching without Charles Dance?". It really was not. No actor filled the screen like he did.

@brandonbrown6356 2 ай бұрын

I didn’t even notice that……everything about him showed how intimidating his presence was.

@jiszle697 2 ай бұрын

That's a great point!!! Tywin was the real king at this point, anyway.

@Sujjin21 Ай бұрын

Loved that little bit

@sayhitosteve2785 Ай бұрын

Wow, I missed that subtlety. Thank s for mentioning it.

@user-vu2ex6kj1x 5 ай бұрын

"Even broken clock indicates time correctly, twice a day" - Jeong Byeongju

@deja_ 3 ай бұрын

The only thing a broken clock can tell you is the time of its death

@shourya2408 3 ай бұрын

@@deja_damn that's good, never heard it

@bashojanggoon2167 2 ай бұрын

Umm… I’m like 100% sure that the person you attribute that quote to was quoting someone else.

@TheCamieman 2 ай бұрын

It's technically stopped clock. A broken clock can be minutes odd out

@n00bfest32 Ай бұрын

Are you Jeong’s friend or something? Lol definitely not his quote

@hannah1948 5 ай бұрын

The one time joffrey actually got it right.🐉🐲

@michaelbleckler4379 5 ай бұрын

Charles Dance has such a commanding presence on screen. Great actor

@rm0986 5 ай бұрын

2:40 this line shows that Varys had been actively misinforming Tywin about the nature of Dany's dragons in order to keep his attention away from the matter. This might be the only time where from a strategic point of view, Joffrey is right and Tywin is wrong.

@SRK_H_M_W_A 5 ай бұрын

Varys then proceeds to accurately inform Tywin about Dany acquiring the unsullied and Barristan Selmy as an advisor following Joffrey’s demise. It may not have been so much on misinformation as it was that Varys needed more time for his sources to get the message to him.

@TheMisterGuy 5 ай бұрын

"this line shows that Varys had been actively misinforming Tywin about the nature of Dany's dragons" Are you sure the dragons were proven to be a threat at that point? Early on, nobody even knew if the eggs could hatch, let alone that these dragons would grow to be the size of ancient ones.

@aswinastro Ай бұрын

@@TheMisterGuy Actually, Tywin is right. In the world of GOT (both the books and the show) -Baby Dragons take years to grow and almost decades to reach the heights that Balerion or Vhagar did. Balerion for instance was already around 100 years at the time of Aegon's conquest. I think Meraxes and Vhagar were around 50-80 years old - I can't remember their exact age. As GOT does not have internet and the spies who pass information from one corner to other may take months, there is a strong chance the information Tywin got was at a time when Danny's Dragons were mere babies, smaller than your house pet.

@TheMisterGuy Ай бұрын

@@aswinastro " In the world of GOT (both the books and the show) -Baby Dragons take years to grow and almost decades to reach the heights that Balerion or Vhagar did." But...in the show...Dany's dragons grew to massive size over a period of like, ten years. Are you saying that was highly unusual? I don't know if that's "full" size but they were enough that a single one of them could torch King's Landing and the Red Keep in a day. "As GOT does not have internet and the spies who pass information from one corner to other may take months" Ignoring how ravens seemed to operate at the speed of cell phones by the later seasons, that's fine with me, but Tywin would know that. Everyone would be accustomed to how long things take and if your spy in Essos says they saw something, you mentally add six months or whatever. You'd be in a world where you understand you're playing a very long, slow game with big delays in communication and travel time.

@bonononchev634 18 күн бұрын

Plus, even without Tywin two of the dragons died ... if he lived, they would not have set foot on Westeros...

@jaycasado5029 14 күн бұрын

Tywin did the Bane from Dark Knight Rises: “Do you feel like you’re in charge?”

@Killerqueen69420 Ай бұрын

I love how in the moments where Joffrey is actually being smart he’s mostly shot down but when he’s being sadistic and insane everybody is basically fine with it

@bullgravy6906 15 күн бұрын

He was so sure of himself when being a sadistic prat, and also his sadism had zero implications on anyone other than what was right in front of him. In actual kingly duties he was meek and unsure, but weirdly correct but no one cared because of his attitude

@Ariana-wv4pf 10 күн бұрын

Yep That boy was immature, psychopathic and cruel. But he wasn't dumb. He was the only one concerned with the dragons (and he was right about that), he was also the one who had the idea to create one army (as opposed to each kingdom having their own) trained to be faithful only to the Crown. He also understood Cersei's manipulation tactics and put her in her place more than once. He appreciated Margaery's more subtle ways of manipulating him and allowed her to do so. He wasn't stupid and, maybe, with Margaery by his side, he would have become a good king. And Cersei wouldn't have had the guts to kill Margaery and the rest. Tommen was too soft, had she done that while Joffrey was still alive, he would have executed her.

@BuckHunter103 4 ай бұрын

Look, we all HATE Joffrey, but tbh, he’s actually the more rationale and intelligent person in this scene. Not even about seeing Daenerys as a potential threat, but even the conversation about where the meetings are held kind of exposes Tywin’s own ego, that even the king must work on his time and rules

@user-it5td8hg4i Ай бұрын

Exactly. I've always wondered how Tywin would explain if Joffrey asked "So your time is more important than my own?" Such a direct accusation would be difficult to deflect, since no matter what Tywin can not admit that he holds more power than the king.

@beaudure01 2 ай бұрын

The pause before “whenever necessary” changes the meaning entirely. Brilliant.

@AgentQQ8 5 ай бұрын

One of the few times Joffrey showed interest in being an actual king.

@tmwk__ 7 ай бұрын

One of Tywin's ways of dominating people is by towering over them like that.

@HopeMonkey 3 ай бұрын

I love it when Tywin walked up and the stairs and Joffrey had to look up to him, a realisation that the power had shifted and was in fact always this way.

@Tango_Mike 7 күн бұрын

Can we all agree that Tywin is pure class even when he doesn't say anything. Man's got the presence of a true king 👏👏👏👏👏

@sethlangston181 6 ай бұрын

Joffrey: complaining about potentially having to walk up stairs to attend council meetings he never attends Tywin: an old man, walking up a flight of stairs in Joffrey's direction without any complaining

@alexblake5369 14 күн бұрын

To be fair though it's more about the symbolism than it is the actual walk. The small council works for the King, not the Hand, so they should meet in a position that's most convenient for the King, not the Hand. By having the small council meet in the Hand's tower Tywin is basically stating to everyone that he is in charge, not Joffrey. And he pretty much is. Joffrey is just a figurehead while Tywin is, for all intents and purposes, the real king of Westeros. Tywin, and the audience, may roll their eyes at Joffrey's poor excuse for not attending the small council meetings but he actively encourages this behavior. A real Hand of the King would be dragging Joffrey to these meetings while lecturing them about the importance of these meetings and how he is to lead them. Tywin doesn't actually want Joffrey to become more educated and a better ruler, because that would represent a direct threat to HIS power. Tywin is not the Hand of the King, he is the Shadow King.

@SaigaTenshi 5 ай бұрын

Such an amazing actor who plays as Joffrey. Too bad the internet is such a bad place and very ungrateful

@moviedigest1 5 ай бұрын

Personally the best actor in the series

@SaigaTenshi 5 ай бұрын

@@moviedigest1 I agree. If I was given a chance to meet that actor, I would shake his hands and say "your role as Joffrey is magnificent"

@cheaplaffsarefree 4 ай бұрын

Apparently the poor bastard couldn't go anywhere in public for months afterward because people would insult and abuse him, unable to distinguish him from the character he played in a fictional TV series. People can be reeeeeally stupid.

@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 2 ай бұрын

Agreed. As much as I hate Joffery, I also love the bastard. Jack Gleeson did an excellent job with the role, he did more than what was necessary, and it sucks that people can't see past the persona he put on for a TV role.

@htwesports8804 Ай бұрын

@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 He is so good that he fools the people

@braxxian 5 ай бұрын

Poor old Joffrey. He ended up being right about the biggest thing of all, but because he was such a sob no one listened to him😁

@de0509 14 күн бұрын

Explains how EQ is also quite important. Theres a lot of corporate stories how asshat people run companies into the ground simply due to nobody liking them

@MrKardany 2 ай бұрын

Tywin was the scariest with very few words.. smart and quick.. his only weakness is think was his hatred towards his son.. which ended him by his hands..

@agagqbq Ай бұрын

the way this Tywin carries himself is goals, hes the leader in any conversation

@RadagonTheRed 2 ай бұрын

This scene was masterful. It conveyed so much about the power dynamic with such little details.

@road3557 3 ай бұрын

Joffery in this scene was totally right. He was also right in season 1 when he told his mother about having a standing royal army.

@Duneek Ай бұрын

Tywin climbing the steps without saying a word and then looming over Joffrey even had me intimidated 😂

@dimigeorg1044 2 ай бұрын

Even his presence without say something shows how the king fears tywin

@alexandersauickie2152 17 күн бұрын

Always loved how Tywin makes Joffrey uncomfortable in this scene, and smirks as he walks off.

@eugenematthew1977 19 күн бұрын

Joffrey: "I've been very busy, many important matters require King's attention." Tywin: *("Bullshit.")* "...of course."

@loremaster8475 3 ай бұрын

the main cast in this show are so great. Jack as joffery played his role so well. People hated him so much they sent him death threats!

@alexandersylvain1117 3 ай бұрын

I love the imposing camera angle! 😂

@jonathan6578 5 ай бұрын

i love how when he enters the room and the kingsguard walks behind him he stops for a moment letting them know to stop following him

@iwuanadie1058 2 ай бұрын

didn't even ask if he was free to go, just left and mentioned "your grace" on the way out, as an afterthought. as if he forgot. but we know he didn't. the disrespect is real.

@KeyUploads 23 күн бұрын

*_the king is tired._*

@the_glitter_is 20 күн бұрын

The way he slowly walked up the stairs....Charles Dance is hot.

@user-xt5el5bg6j 5 ай бұрын

Why if this isn’t such a fine grandfather and grandson moment?

@metarock3054 4 ай бұрын

Tywin was so wrong about the dragons. It’s very ironic! 😂😂 And Joffrey being smart is ironic as well!

@Herucarne 17 күн бұрын

Tywin's character screams "power" with every inch he moves. It's just adorable, how king Joffrey tries to compete, but fails.

@carolinemarchand4743 15 күн бұрын

Like so many people, Joeffrey doesn't even realises it when he is put in his place

@sethlangston181 5 ай бұрын

One of the few times the idiot king got something right and the master strategist got something dead wrong. If only Joffrey wasn't so inept in every other area of kingship, perhaps Tywin would've listened.

@troyburnex 4 ай бұрын

The one time the kid was actually right

@tbone5040 2 ай бұрын

Lets hear it for the subtle glance aside when Tywin says "Of course.",in response to Joffrey complaining about many things requiring his attention. Thats one of those details that I love about Charles Dances' portrayal. Also noteworthy is Joffreys fscial expression after Tywin says "... whenever necessary." ,and turns to walk away.

@chargersgirlkarina1857 17 күн бұрын

I like how Joffrey changed the conversation when he knew that Tywin was getting annoyed 🤣🤣

@parthsaksena4798 15 күн бұрын

Tywin Lannister the king who never wore a crown

@russelljackson8153 25 күн бұрын

If you ever watch an interview with Charles Dance, he's incredibly warm and personable. He plays such intimidating characters that it's kind of a shock.

@celestialnubian 5 ай бұрын

"We could arrange to have you carried." Translation:"I will k|ll you boy. I prefer Tommen anyway"

@moviedigest1 5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@michaelbayer5094 3 ай бұрын

And soon Joffrey is dead. Coincidence?

@LesterWallace_ 2 ай бұрын

Dude won like 6 wars. Everybody knew who was really boss round tht mf

@maiorano84 14 күн бұрын

Charles Dance's subtlety and brilliance at work here, but can we just take a moment to really appreciate Jack Gleeson's acting here? Kid's getting an acting masterclass, and keeping up without issue across an absolute legend.

@Miloshhhhh 16 күн бұрын

It's interesting how Joffrey feels lulled in his precious chair when the man beside him is actually disrespecting him by towering over

@justinv6410 11 күн бұрын

Tywin walking up the stairs with “Do you feel in control ?”

@natemyers4946 Ай бұрын

"I heard Dragons are back grandfather." "Yeah, they are." Joffery: da fuck? Mofo shouldn't we do something?? 😂

@djwoosie98 16 күн бұрын

Grandfather not uncle

@whosaidiwantedahandle 4 күн бұрын

Tywin is the guy who can be completely wrong but everyone thinks he won the argument because of his sheer confidence

@jenniferblake3224 Ай бұрын

Charles Dance is a legend, but credit to Jack Gleason - his acting as Joffrey is superb.

@cyvader101 6 күн бұрын

3:11 absolutely love how Tywin almost forgets to formally address Joffrey as he remembers that Joffrey is the one who is technically in charge

@Killerwale-hk4wy 13 күн бұрын

Joffrey was kind of smart in this scene though. His concern seems genuine and is just.

@adamrussell658 5 ай бұрын

"..whenever necessary" reminds me of Yes, Prime Minister.

@user-vl9fu1hz4r 16 күн бұрын

20seconds in... scene feels so lonely and cold and then you get a look at the iron chair. Shivers

@Sporadic2777 Ай бұрын

Tywin knew all along that he as the Hand was the true power behind the throne. Charles Dance's imposing height and powerful presence was perfect for the character.

@aishahamma334 2 ай бұрын

This is the example of. A crown doesn't give you power

@o.j7408 2 ай бұрын

I forgot how superb the actors were somehow. They nailed their roles

@Sujjin21 Ай бұрын

That pause in his gate to let the guards know that was far enough. That look on his face as he approaches the throne and again as he slowly makes his way up the steps. So fucking epic 👌

@ScoxGungFu 16 күн бұрын

One does not speak to Tywin Lannister, He speaks to you!

@MenelikTheFirst 20 күн бұрын

The few times Joffrey actually tries to govern, he’s not bad.

@matteoallodi8030 Ай бұрын

As much as I love Tywin as a character, I have to give credit to Joffrey here, a more concerned and less passive stance in regard to Deanerys, would have been the smartest move going forward.

@ravenchain85 16 күн бұрын

In hindsight, yes. But Dany was a lesser threat to Joffrey at this point in the series. Her dragons weren't yet full grown, and she was occupied with her slave liberation campaign. Tywin knew Robb Stark and Stannis were much greater and more immediate concerns. Joffrey just showed how unfocused and outmatched he was as a king.

@joshuadaley6531 Ай бұрын

Joffery understands how powerful his grandfather is

@BatmanHQYT Ай бұрын

The one time Joffrey was right, lol. Hilarious watching this scene and then immediately afterwards watching the scene from S7 where Dany attacks the Lannister army.

@oneduelist 15 күн бұрын

"We could arrange to have you carried" may be the most thinly veiled threat I've ever heard.

@curlyg9925 5 ай бұрын

Tywin was the Victor Newman of the Seven Kingdoms

@lewisbeamer1829 22 күн бұрын

King Joffrey was one of the best characters in GOT and the actor who played him absolutely nailed it

@Cam-jv7qy Күн бұрын

Mr Dance was perfect in his role as Tywin.

@supersaiyanzero386 2 ай бұрын

Tywin kinda pulls the Tony Soprano intimidation lol. Looming!

@WieldingEminator 18 сағат бұрын

Joffrey: complains about stairs. Tywin: climbs the stairs to the throne. Me: "Message received."

@reneroo277 16 күн бұрын

Dance is fantastic but the actor who plays Joffrey, Jack Gleeson, is so fantastic.

@user-lb3kh7rv1z Ай бұрын

Tywin walking down the steps like " I really run the realm not you little bastard" 😂

@jimslancio 15 күн бұрын

" ... you little bastard." And that was literally true.

@Moriningland Ай бұрын

One of the best scenes of the show

@MrDeengels 6 күн бұрын

Tywin was such a bad ass

@davidgibson4007 Ай бұрын

This guy who played the king Joffrey is a great actor he has the potential to be the greatest actor ever but he has a long ass way to go

@johannesschaller442 Ай бұрын

Jack Gleeson should have received an oscar for his performance. I`ve never seen any Actor performing pretentious in such an perfectionistic way. I mean the mimics are just outstandingly precise, as every twitch contains its own meaning.

@escamunicha4276 28 күн бұрын

These were the seasons when dialogue had meaning.

@Serp_Entine Ай бұрын

Two minutes in charge and the kid thinks he Lee Iacocca!

@danbaumann8273 3 ай бұрын

Well, we know who's the real boss.

@user-qx1zo6hp2s 5 ай бұрын

Joffrey was right there...

@michaelbayer5094 3 ай бұрын

Tywin has every intention to rule. He comes down to the throne room to make that plain to Joffrey. So, while Joffrey ie correct about the dragons. maybe Tywin is purposely dismissive ("curiosities") to placate the boy and make sure he does meddle in the affairs of state. Also, Tywin might believe Mormont is still on the payroll.

@animeaddict8427 Ай бұрын

1:20 i now have to climb the stairs Tywin = is there a problem 😒😒 Joffery = 😅😅😅

@thund3rl1p5 Ай бұрын

Tywin would have stopped the Night King with a speech and a condescending look.

@salvadorarturovelazquezcro8759 5 ай бұрын

I wish Tywin Lannister was my thesis director!

@davidwak680 Ай бұрын

A reminder to Joffrey who's really running things.

@Steve-em4tb 5 ай бұрын

And then said curiosities proceed to destroy the Lannister army at the Battle of the Goldroad.

@Lauren-cq8gz 16 күн бұрын

Jack Gleeson really holds his own against the legend that is Charles Dance across the whole show, but especially scenes like this, must’ve been an absolute privilege to watch these two act opposite each other on set! 👏🏻👏🏻

@faizangopal 9 күн бұрын

When your maternal and paternal grandfathers is the same guy.

@Scerotic Жыл бұрын

Subtitles killed it my dude

@ZeroBudgetProductions Ай бұрын

Best character on the show

@dr.s.square1491 Ай бұрын

Moment he walked up!! Joffrey realised that he rubbed the wrong butt😂😂

@mitchellclifton1293 15 күн бұрын

Charles Dance is just naturally menacing.

@hugokasimir6440 Ай бұрын

Joffry was only Afraid of two people That was close to Him in His own Family and those two people was His Grandfather Tywin and His uncel Tyrion.

@Scorpio_1974 13 күн бұрын

I can tell Tywin really hated that boy lol!

@drewgormley6933 Ай бұрын

He was totally right about the dragons, too. Odd, that I missed this. Paranoiacs are good at detecting threats.

@octavianpopescu4776 16 күн бұрын

One of the things that I like about the character of Joffrey is that... he's actually right. He is right to take Daenerys and her dragons seriously. And this isn't the only scene. There is another in the first season where he's talking to Cersei and he's asking for his own standing army, personally loyal to him, instead of the different nobles. And this is what happened historically, power becoming more and more centralized in the hands of monarchs led to reduced reliance on fickle nobles to provide military service and the creation of standing armies personally loyal to the monarchs. In all his insanity, Joffrey has moments where he's actually right.