Roger Dubuis Easy Diver & Rolex Submariner 14060M

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WatchArtSci

WatchArtSci

Күн бұрын

I don’t talk about Rolex watches much since they are covered throughly by so many who are well-versed in their history and development. However, I am interested in some other divers, like the Roger Dubuis Easy Diver with the RD14 movement and Geneva Seal certification. From the early 21st Century when the main reference for Submariners was the 14060M with the chronometer certified 3130 movement, the comparison reveals each watch’s characteristics.

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@HRM.H
@HRM.H Жыл бұрын
The 14060M is one of the few Rolex watches i could see myself owning, such a classic divewatch.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, yes, that particular model seems to be particularly attractive to Rolex fans. Take care, Bill
@obesetuna3164
@obesetuna3164 Жыл бұрын
Greetings Bill. As a non-swimmer , wannabe fellow desk diver, the Roger Dubuis looks to be a far more individual and attractive proposition.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Hey Tuna, it's a lot more fun when you can see what's ticking inside!Take care, Bill
@AbdulRWatches
@AbdulRWatches Жыл бұрын
Definitely my favorite Submariner by far is the 14060 followed by the 5513, but that RD Easy Diver is awesome, I don't think I have the wrist for it (17cm). I was looking for a smaller Easy Diver on Chrono24 but the variety is slim. Thanks Bill.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Hey Abdul, I probably have all the sports watches I need with my RD Sympathie ... unless Lyrique decided to make one. All of the Rolex watches I like are discontinued ... like the Prince! Take care, Bill
@20thcenturyboy85
@20thcenturyboy85 Жыл бұрын
Rolex is fantastic but that Roger Dubuis diver design is an INCREDIBLE BEAST! Thanks Bill!
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Everyone needs a beast in their collection, 20thCent! Take care, Bill
@h111551
@h111551 Жыл бұрын
The Submariner is an iconic watch but the Roger Dubuis references are legendary watches. Very much like comparing a classic Corvette to a classic Ferrari. At some point one realizes that the Corvette represents the earthbound and that the Ferrari represents the heavenbound. The narrative of the short lived heyday of Roger Dubuis as a watch manufacturing concern is straight out of a Thomas Mann novella with Carlos Dias being unduly vilified. I am not suggesting that Dias was not without his flaws but he seldom receives the credit that he likely deserves. Roger Dubuis as a company was felled by the 2008 global financial crisis and overly aggressive capital spending for a world class manufacturing facility just outside Geneva in Meyrin as well as personality incompatibility between Mssrs. Dubuis and Dias. That said, Roger Dubuis was a glorious brand while it lasted with the current incarnation of the brand being totally superfluous. To label a Roger Dubuis Easy Diver as a dive watch is akin to describing a Ferrari 250 GT SWB California Spyder as a motorized vehicular appliance designed for personal transportation. The range of variations by and among the Easy Diver is so brilliant as to take one’s breath away. Conceding that the Submariner is a fine watch, there is no comparison between it and the Easy Diver nor with the Rolex and any other Roger Dubuis reference. The Rolex is on the order of an Andrew Wyeth painting and the Roger Dubuis is on the order of a Jackson Pollack painting - they are both creations realized with the same raw components (canvas and paint) but there is no real basis for equivalency between them.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Eloquently put, Howard. Literature has not failed you! Take care, Bill
@Javi_C
@Javi_C Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison Dr.!
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
My pleasure Javi! Take care, Bill
@xpdchief7698
@xpdchief7698 Жыл бұрын
Very good video Bill. I like the comparison of the Submariner to the Easy Diver. I’m not really a diver fan and I never liked the Submariner. The Easy Diver is just way to big. I can get away with a watch in the 43mm range, but 46mm, no way. Best regards, Brian
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Brian, you're right on all counts! There was something about the EZ Diver that once I got it on, it worked out well for some reason. However, 2 RDs with the same movement and big rubber strap, just didn't make sense so the RD went. Take care, Bill
@xpdchief7698
@xpdchief7698 Жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci Just my 2 cents, but I think you kept the right one Regards, Brian
@biggiebeil5118
@biggiebeil5118 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bill, Just has your response the other day on the easydiver, thanks for sharing knowledge, i was about to get one but hold it back a bit. Just to let ppl know or if I'm not mistaken, the movement of the RD easydivers RD821 are different than RD14? since RD14 is more luxe, appearntly they price more higher than those who has this RD821 caliber. there very limited information about RD movements or how they made, there also very big gap price difference between some of them to the other.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
🤔
@chilli-badger
@chilli-badger Жыл бұрын
Great video thank you - Funnily enough my main timepiece is a new no date sub but my most worn is my Citizen EZ Smart Hybrid which in person looks like they had a Roger Dubuis bezel design in mind - This may all change as I'm picking up a pre-owned Omega 600m Planet Ocean today to add to the unnecessary hobby / adddition. 🙂
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Hey Chilli, we were were responsible, we wouldn't collect watches ... or have much fun! 😉Take care, Bill
@seba888
@seba888 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bill Wdyt about Roger Dubuis Acqua Mare? is it the cousin of easy diver? Thanks
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Hi Seba! I wonder if it has the RD 14 movement-I like the model with the small seconds, but every Mare seems to be from a different designer! Fascinating watch. Take care, Bill
@brandonboyd_comedy
@brandonboyd_comedy Жыл бұрын
My 2012 4liner has lug holes. Been in the pool, river and ocean, on 4 continents❤
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
A tough diver, Brandon! Take care, Bill
@richardbartlett6932
@richardbartlett6932 Жыл бұрын
Great review ill go look closer at the EZ 👍
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Richard, you will be surprised how many variations there are in the EZ. See if you can find one with a gold rotor.😉 Take care, Bill
@Nobiggiesal
@Nobiggiesal Жыл бұрын
I wish Roger Dubois still made this case style. How about comparing the Rolex ExpII to the VC dual time Overseas? Always enjoy your videos Bill, thanks!
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Hey Big Sal; even since Richemont took over RD, they've created expensive skeleton watches. VC OS vs. ExpII ... two different weight classes.😉Take care, Bill
@andycandyOK
@andycandyOK Жыл бұрын
Some people say that every serious watch collector should have at least one Rolex in their collection. Who knows, maybe Bill will add one soon to his... 🙂
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Andy, every serious collector should only have the watches and level of horology they enjoy. You know that! Take care, Bill
@jamesvroom7486
@jamesvroom7486 Жыл бұрын
I believe that, at least the earlier Submariner 14060Ms have drilled (holes) in the lugs for quick strap changes. And the earlier 14060Ms also did not have the engraved rehaut. I think that came around 2005 or so. And, if I’m not mistaken, the green bezel “Kermit” Submariners all have the date complication. They used to keep the no-date Submariners simple (even hollow end links) right up to 2009 or so. :)
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Hi James, yes, I wasn't sure exactly if the engraved rehauts and un-drilled lugs coincided exactly with the 14060Ms, but I believe when the dust settled, there were no lug holes and the rehauts had engraving. Indeed, Kermit did show up in this combination. (My favorite.) Take care, bill
@jamesvroom7486
@jamesvroom7486 Жыл бұрын
@@watchartsci Thank you. And I should say that I always enjoy your channel!
@dominickcolasanto6582
@dominickcolasanto6582 Жыл бұрын
Amazing watch Easy Diver! Agree with your choice on a gator as for us desk divers wonderful. As for the Rolex Yacht Master II I believe its still in production and still alone with the Sky-Dweller are Rolex's most complex movements the SD was recently updated? My guess Rolex is moving towards higher finishing on the movements in preparation for display case backs. Check out the 2023 Platinum Daytona its the hint to the future my guess. Great video Bill!
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Hi Dom, I just checked the Rolex site, and while the Yacht Master is still listed the YM II is not. The 1908's exhibition window in the back is a good indication of where it's going, but so is the silicon hairspring 🥲Compare the minimal rotor on the 1908 with the grain d'orge motif on the gold EZ Diver's rotor. Now I'm really wondering why I sold my EZD! Take care, Bill
@dominickcolasanto6582
@dominickcolasanto6582 Жыл бұрын
@WatchArtSci Yes! My mistake I mixed up YM & YM II for a treat on the display back and movement potential check out the Platinum Daytona eventhough its a chronograph I think it's still using a parachrome hairspring? Thank's Bill take care.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
@@dominickcolasanto6582 You are correct! The Daytona is looking good! However, wouldn't your really rather have one of these? www.h-moser.com/product/streamliner-flyback-chronograph-2/ 🤔
@dominickcolasanto6582
@dominickcolasanto6582 Жыл бұрын
@WatchArtSci Out of this world epic watch! Can imagine it in person can only be better. Great recommendation. Thanks Bill
@davidobrien9362
@davidobrien9362 Жыл бұрын
Totally, totally agree with your view on the yaght master, now, is it now just (just??) a sub with a weak depth level?, its lost all the boating, regatta points.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
David, do you know if the YM-II did better? I would think so. Take care, Bill
@aleksandargogic9084
@aleksandargogic9084 Жыл бұрын
Hello Neighbor, Design wise, horology wise, RD all they long… Geneva seal, I feel you get lot more for money with RD… Have a nice weekend!!!
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Hey Neighbor! The EZD has several features I like-RD14, solid gold rotor and Geneva Seal. I appreciate the smaller size of the Rolex and the upgraded movement for that model. Take care, Bill
@TimG--
@TimG-- Жыл бұрын
Great
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim! Take care, Bill
@baronsilverbaron757
@baronsilverbaron757 9 ай бұрын
I've got the Rolex Submariner 5513 and the Roger Dubuis Easy Diver but the later model. The Rolex is tiny to the RD and doesn't compare in quality.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci 9 ай бұрын
Yes indeed Baron, that EZ Driver is a substantial man's watch! Take care, Bill
@TrumanBurbankFE
@TrumanBurbankFE Жыл бұрын
Geneva seal and 22K rotor all day long, and limited production. Interesting you chose a Rolex generation with aluminium bezel, stamped clasp and hollow links I believe, not my cup of tea.
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Hi Truman, my Rolex Submariner model was selected on the basis of what model was predominate in the same period of 2000 that the Easy Diver was being made. That's all. Take care, Bill
@ikke12345
@ikke12345 Жыл бұрын
The superluminova makes no sense at all. It only works a few minutes after you go from light to dark, so don't count on it when you really need it
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Good to know Vincent, and I'll not venture down to Davey Jones' locker in the dark! Take care, Bill
@albertotube66
@albertotube66 Жыл бұрын
not fit for my small wrist :(
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Alberto, yes, they do need more variation in dial size. Take care, Bill
@leightodd7335
@leightodd7335 Жыл бұрын
Your probably one of those guys that thought the Plymouth Cuda was better than the Dodge Charger? I think the Rolex fan boys gave up on you a looooong time ago! lol
@watchartsci
@watchartsci Жыл бұрын
Oh no, Leigh! They gave up on me? Say it ain't so! I'd rather have a Morgan than a muscle car ... more finesse.😉 Take care, Bill
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