Now a BOLEX stainless steel watch using a dinosaur movement costs on average £5000 and if the spring pin fails and it falls down a steep slope and breaks, then that's another 3 or four of these LUMINOX's to fix it... now my point is that watches are all pretty over priced unless it's a CASIO EdiFice, these seem to be the best to value... but with regards to the LUMINOX I have, it's a side that I have only just lived the very first time for real. I've seen them, but never looked further, and it was the plastic and the price that made me steer pass, so was very lucky to have this opportunity with hands on. I've not really watched and read reviews, but it seems there's a divide like Samsung and Apple, and this isn't my game... $20 movement doesn't mean anything but it's a good price, and I've got Miyota movements at $1.20 that include a battery that are very accurate and reliable. I've had ETA quartz movements that are plastic and when they fail, they can't be serviced, so why is the RONDA movement so bad, you can strip it down and buy the parts, and if it failed, then buying a $20 movement is my kind of direction. I've been racing RC cars for a while, and I can tell you, the carbon fibre composite chassis and swing arms take the beating, they get scratched, but they have always been solid, and when I use metal, these just bend or snap. I have many types of watches, and I enjoy them all in their own way, and which watch is the best is easy, the sun and stars... but when it's cloudy they're for nothing, so you can't rely upon one thing. I know there's materials that endure different toughness, but it's nice having different ones in a collection, now I've not lived the grade 5 Citizen, and it sounds interesting, and SINN are lovely German watches, and I do have an eye on a chrono, but at £4000+ this isn't needed, but enjoy others who do :) At the moment I'm still on the LUMINOX, and so far i'm impressed... now I feel this isn't over, I need more time with it, but would be interested to how much if Bear Grylls wasn't on it? Looking at the details and how the print is pressed on the dial and chapter ring is on at a perfect level, and under more magnification there's no bleeding of print, so this obversely goes towards the costs. Is it of value, well personally I can't answer that this early, but at this moment I would be prepared to by one. I can only value something if it works, and I'm forgetting the press and so called watch gurus that moan about anything that's fluff, I'm about true value, so if this watch is still working and holding together after ten years, then it's doing a fine job, not sure if some micro brands would succeed, or suc at the same price point? In most cases watches are expensive especially with SWISS MADE on the dial, this isn't a secret, and I know for many they would chose a ROLEX over a SINN... unless you want that stress to mother people, you're often best to let everyone enjoy what they see is good for them, unless it's really really bad and a rip off scam. Anyway, will look more into Citizen as I really like the brand, cheers and thanks again for your feedback :)

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman I wouldn't consider the new Rolex movements to be dinosaur movements lol as they will outlast us both. I think the problem with Rolex and this Luminox is that you are also paying for the marketing/hype and not just the watch. I personally don't consider Luminox to be good value. I bought my Luminox Recon new for less than $200 when the next cheapest I could find was $750. It also has a rather cheap Ronda GMT movement. Does it mean it doesn't work? No, it works but why is the rest of the watch so much more money? Where is that money actually going? Where is the added technology to justify such a price? Honestly, a Timex 921 Chronograph movement is more advanced than the movement in this watch. So, where is the value? What is it you are actually paying the money for? Is it the carbon fiber? The Tritium? The watch hands? The watch case? I would guess most of the money goes to cover the cost of using the Bear Grylls name. Does this mean it isn't a good watch? No, it just means that a percentage of the money never went into the quality of the watch. So it it good value for the money? That depends on the individual's priorities. Do they want a watch where a large percentage of money goes into the watch, or do they want a watch that is marketed and well-known? I think if the watch brings enjoyment than that is important. I stopped buying watches with Ronda chronograph movements as I got tired of replacing them (every few years in some cases). The last one I replaced was a ~$50 17-jewel 12hr chronograph. I am beginning to think that they all fail with use in a few years time as I have an ETA chronograph that also crapped out on me. I will say that none of my Miyota or Seiko chronos have failed yet. As we all know, Swiss Made doesn't carry much weight anymore. It used to actually mean something, but now is so deluded in most cases that I just ignore it. T25 means that the tubes contain 25 milliCuries of radioactivity. Some people think this means it indicates the years it will glow. This is not the case. Is the tritium where the cost of this watch is spent? No, I don't think so. There are tritium watches for ~$100 that contain more tritium. So again, I don't personally see the value. To be clear, I am not knocking the watch. Any watch that gets people into the hobby or enjoy I am all for; however, I don't think this is particular watch is good value for the money considering what you get. I always enjoy your reviews, please keep them coming!

@@patricko9170 I have to pin your comment, that was brilliant and you really nailed it perfectly. I know I may sound like a buffoon, but it's the balance of value, and if you can adjust for it then it hurts nobody, fact is, watches are luxury items, and anything luxury will have a cost. I'm currently looking more into MWC Military Watch Company as their new range just look insane especially with price... I'm hoping to get some more contact with them as I'd like to review more than my one just to get an idea... I'm a quartz guy the most, as i've had two mechanicals fail me when I needed them the most, and so far quartz hasn't let me down. Fantastic reply and appreciate the time it took to right, but I feel this is more nature for you. It's nice to have a discussion on this level being realistic about it, I will never give up being me and doing what I enjoy, and making these videos is also my passion... just need a few helicopters and twenty more camera's and I could produce something a little tighter LML :-P Thanks again and it's pinned btw :))

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman Thanks for the pin. I have to ask, how did your mechanicals fail? What were you doing with them?

@@patricko9170 You're welcome :) The first watch was a SEIKO Sports 5 using the 4R movement, and I was doing nothing really interesting apart from playing badminton and it just stopped (never got it fixed and still sits in my parts area for a project) The second watch was out in the Lake District, and that morning I was deciding between my new ProTrek PRG2500 or Hamilton Khaki 42mm. Later that day back at camp, I decided to wash my hands using the water tank filling area, and decided that I would take the watch off as it was on leather and place it on the tap. Well this wasn't placed correctly and it dropped down upon the grill, and the rotor weight came apart from the centre part. I did have a video on this which was on my original channel... but I fixed it myself, but had to wait till back home, and it basically just snaps back on, but luckily no other signs of damage. I did like that watch, and maybe get another one day... mine had a very unusual purple/blueish dial, sold it to a friend for £100 as he bugged me for ages. I think he flipped it for a used Citizen Diver worth about £40 tops, but hey, his choice. I choose my watches wisely for what I have planned for the day, and if it's going to be really aggressive, then G-Shocks are my choice, but sometimes these get too clumsy and it's nice to have something more practical in size... I found TIMEX have some good offerings, but with regards to analog only, I don't have anything that's also super tough, so with this LUMINOX it could be something. I like the Fenix 6 Pro I have, but it feels that it could get damaged quicker over my G-Shocks because it has no bumpering... the Garmin Instinct is great, and now it's used by Mrs Rangeman and she doesn't even clean it. Its been on most of our times away and still holds up, yeah, that's a really good valued watch without doubt. Out of all my watches, I would have to say my little G-Shock G-9300 Mudman is the one for ultimate toughness... it's also good with those slightly stiffer buttons, as getting your hand into tight places doesn't accidentally mode switch. It also has a rounder case/bezel design so feels compact and hugging. A buddy of mine mentioned it's his go to G-Shock, and to be honest wasn't my design at first, looks too similar to my GW-9400 Rangeman, but later decided the only way is to try. This is why I had to test this LUMINOX, as my curiosity has so many questions, and for viewers also... it's all too easy to shout out it's poop, but without that hands on, you really are in the dark about it. Makes good conversation hey. I feel the perfect watch will never happen, as to finding your grail watch, these things change with moods or simply with a bad experience, but if you were given a watch from a dying friend and it was the brand you least liked, you would still treasure its soul hey, and sometimes when you have that bond to a watch, you can't let go... I feel this with the LUMINOX, it's like i'm connected and without it am naked??? Have a great start to the week and i'm sure we'll chat another time :)

LML LML LML Damn buddy, you really had me in stitches... It would be the Nimbus69 LML :-P I really appreciate your feedback and making videos is something I really enjoy. Thanks for the support as always :)

Cheers my friend... now, have you also seen my second part to this video? To really understand something you need more time, and cheers to Watcho I got two months :)) Thanks again :)

Cheers buddy, that strap helped me size another watch up LML ;-P Cheers for your feedback and support, and am pleased you enjoyed, and that’s what I enjoyed making... HaPpY Sunday buddy ;)

If you think the intro is good, then the next montage later kills that... I’m surprised nobody mentioned the case back strike, thought that was very original ;-P Cheers for the feedback and support my friend, HaPpY Sunday ;)

Cheers buddy... will be making an update video on the LUMINOX as I still have it on loan... I needed to use it more than a few weeks to really understand more about this watch... there are some haters out there, but that's because they have been washed between the ears believing this is simply a lot of money for a plastic watch... and that's the side I was once at. All will be explained in my followup video... cheers :)

Thank you, finally someone watched till that part, as mostly the intro was mentioned LML :-P You can tell I'm missing my great escapes this year, but glad I'm next to the great outdoors :) Thanks again my dear friend and HaPpY Sunday :)

Well, it all depends on the watch, this just made me get out there and bash it about without care... I use it quite often as I've still got it on loan... needs more testing and another followup video to explain more... I still feel a few see it as a plastic watch and then steer away, and I was guilty myself, but the more I spend with it, the more attached I am with it, as for me it's the design and comfort that makes it work, plus it's brutally tough. The buckle is looking used, but the rest shows no signs. Cheers for the feedback my friend :)

@Sigkim Brilliant and clever comment my friend... cheers for the feedback... and Crossbows are what's in my hold :))

Buddy, being insulting to anyone on the channel is a big no no, but having your own thoughts and opinions are very welcome and isn't unkind, and points you've mentioned seems to be on a few minds. I wasn't looking at this brand for myself, and after seeing Watch Geeks review it left me with no hunger. So i'm very grateful and lucky to have it sent to me for a review and most importantly hands on. I've not seen one in person so it was quite a journey, but I couldn't stop in my lightbox, it wasn't right or honest, so taking it outdoors and using it for a few days was needed, and tests was number one for me. Is another watch better??? well at the moment i'm getting comments saying "I will wait for the next GPS Rangeman as it might be better" now, what makes it better, materials, build, accuracy and reliability, as if it can't do these fantastic four then it's a fail regardless, and even a £5000 watch can fail and fall apart. A GRAHAM watch, is this really worth it, yet people buy them, so it's a choice they have to decide upon even if many see it as over priced. I'm still trying to understand why the hate, I can understand that it's expensive with two factors with SWISS MADE and Bear Grylls name on it, but who is ROLEX that costs thousands, and that's just stainless steel and a dated movement inside made of stamped steel that can rust! At the moment I'm still wearing it, I can't seem to remove it off my wrist, and I need more time with it, I feel these few days isn't enough, and now it's personal towards me, as when something feels good, then you go for it. CASIO EdiFice to me are the best value watches, G-Shocks are the tough dudes but can be expensive and SEIKO's are just getting more limited and fancy with ProSpex that's just exploiting the public in my opinion. I'm not about trashing any watch, as to someone else it could be a gift from their passed away father who loved that watch, so there's always a bigger picture, and saying it's garbage, means it needs to stink, and for me it's an odd one, but turning away from what others say and going by what I'm living isn't the same, and I feel maybe the fakes have ruined it for a few. I really enjoyed making this video, and I've put a lot of thought and time in it as I feel the reviews out there aren't showing the full package... I feel a part two is needed??? Thanks for your support and feedback and your honesty, we need this to help us all :)

Hey buddy... well humour is just me, and being with Mrs Rangeman who's actually more genius with being funny there's no escape from it... am enjoying my new UV hairdryer, really works well especially at 3am in the morning LML :-P I'm still on the LUMINOX, what is happening to me Hans??? :-P

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman UV hairdryer! 😂. I first thought that it is exactly that 😉. My compliments to Mrs. Rangeman 🌹

@@hansspiegl8684 I will film more with it next week if it allows or the week after, as it's very unique as i've just discovered more to why it was made.... lets just say, I'm very honoured :))) Cheers :)

Thank you... much effort and kilometres in this video, plus a lot of editing, but this is my passion, and to make it fun to watch :)

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman You are the best,keep it up!

Mrs Rangeman said that too... it wasn't meant to be an advert, more of how I tested it :-P Pleased you liked it, took a lot of effort and walking to make, but that's what i enjoy... HaPpY Sunday my friend :)

Thank you my good friend... well this is what happens when you loan a watch to WatchUP69, he’s gonna get the Mrs involved LML ;-P Was a full on few days, and have probably done 30km’s in three days now, and this was filmed over that time, thus why I’ve been a little quite ;-P Am back for a little bit, well tomorrow, then back to speed again ;)

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman Cool! I'm looking forward to seeing some other loaned watch reviews... 🤪😁🤣 She did an excellent job! Great cameo! Yeah 30kms is a lot but obviously worthwhile! Looking forward to the next one. 🤜

@@Watch-Crazy When we catch up, hopefully I’ve still got the Bear and Watcho aren’t giving me a Grilling LML ;-P Will most likely be a G-Shock, as they know I brand favourite to those... anyway, don’t expect that amount every time LML ;-P Chat on the other side... btw, did you read the description? Cheers for that UV light if you didn’t ;)

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman I look forward to it! 👍👊 That goes without saying lol, some of the Edifice like the one you reviewed recently look pretty impressive for someone on or not on a budget...? I certainly did Sir! And thank you 🙏 Pleased you found a good use for them! Catch up very soon! 🤘👊

WOW, that was like 2.5yrs ago LML :-P

That UV torch is very unique, am thinking was it for the cancelled Basel World 2020 as a give away??? I must say, charging lume at night without disturbing Mrs Rangeman seems to work just lovely :)

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman I really have no idea, my good friend! I wonder who made it for what purpose? How strong is this "torch" for reading maps at night? Was there no instructions that came with it? This calls for more investigation! 🤓

@@Daud76 It just has that UV LED in side, about halfway in... it's good on anything white in total darkness, so would be good in the snow, maybe fog? Will play with my curiosity and see what other ideas develop :-P

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman Maybe also good for morse code when embracing the darkly dark? It surely must have more uses than just to charge your lume. This really has me intrigued! 😄

@@Daud76 It's great for finding fluff on dark clothes too LML :-P

Sorry to make you jump, it’s not even Halloween yet LML Cheers for the feedback, but am just an amateur with a camera as my weapon, and of course I like watches... I wasn’t really giving anything in the way of attention to LUMINOX, or Victorianox too for that matter, but having a Victoianox in my collection I start seeing more advertised, much like when driving a new model of car ;-P Now to make my review honest I had to test it, it’s what it’s made for, and being pussy with it proves nothing, good job it looks like new still LML Cheers and HaPpY Sunday’ing my good friend ;)

Cheers buddy :)

LML I forgot about saying that, cheers for the reminder :)) I have the RECON too, and that is my night watch... very solid and perfect for the cinema too LML :-P

My reviews are to show how it is in detail, and this was one video that needed to be taken outside my lightbox and thrown around. At his moment I've not worn a G-Shock this week, and I'm still on the LUMINOX :-P What is happening??? feel I need more time with it and make a part two??? Cheers for your support and for your feedback... HaPpY Sunday my friend... Gruß :))

Hey buddy... that’s a special UV double lamp that was gifted to me by Watch Crazy who I saw last week. Has two lights, red and blue and when both are on it’s UV ;) Pretty cool yeah! Cheers for passing and hope all is good your way ;)

That’s about 600 kisses for that small part, and anything more than hands a voice requires physical work LML ;-P Glad you enjoyed the intro, there’s a better montage later, but know it’s a long video so time stamps are waiting in the description LML Hope all is Froggy with you, I’ve loaned my GWF-D1000 to my buddy at Watch Crazy, so will be interesting what he comes up with... for me it’s not being used the year, well once in the sea at the New Forest, but nothing serious but body surfing ;-P Cheers for passing my Friend, need a catchup call hey ;)

Well tritium has been in play for a while, used on compasses, gun sights and even on some machinery that are used at night, that don't give you a sun burn in the eyeballs LML :-P

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman Agree 💯. I think it would be quite cool if G-Shock put tritium on the watch hands (including second hand) as well as 12-3-6-9. Of course I am talking about my GWG-1000DC 😜. Keep up the good work brother. All the effort is greatly appreciated and enjoyed. 👌🏻👌🏻

@@doctoruttley I actually mentioned that in the video I converted my GW-9400 with a luminous LCD panel, saying about G-Shocks being fitted with tritium :)) That would be cool on the GWG for sure :) Cheers for your support my friend, really do appreciate the feedback :))

Yeah, I got it free when I did a lume custom mod for my GW-9400 Rangeman... uses 2 x CR2016's so has plenty of sunshine for a single LED... cheers :))

Have a look on my Amazon shop, link in the description or Aliexpress... get a few of them, as you can lose them when you take them off, but it keeps the DNA away from the port and prevents scum on the charger lead :-P

@@WatchUP69MrRangemanMany thanks!

Too short of a time at the moment, and with the testing I was pulling the crown and hacking time to get some better shots... I feel I need more time with it, it's still on my wrist and I feel it will be there again tomorrow, something has happened and I need to discover the reason/s.... telling time, now that sounds like a cool feature LML :-P

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman I think we get spoiled with the likes of G-Shock and Garmin watches etc that sync their time now and then. It drives me nuts when I wear a normal watch and it’s out by a few seconds. Nice video though!

@@MarkN67 Don't go down that route of second checking, twist that bezel at an angle and enjoy my perspective on how it should look LML :-P

After seeing Watch Geek’s video I thought that’s a nice looker, but whoa on the price, so haven’t been looking... so when Watcho offered a loan for one, it was the perfect time to see what they’re like for real. You know if I reviewed it in my lightbox I wouldn’t be so thrilled, and going outside and really testing it properly was the only way I could do an honest review. I have to say, yeah expensive, but I really don’t know of any watch that would still look new after, not even G-Shocks can look that good once knocked about. For anyone who’s seriously for the outdoors, fibre composite is the best, and after day two I was bonding with this watch... I don’t follow Bear Grylls as I don’t watch TV so the name isn’t what this watch is about, it’s about what it’s made to do, and sitting in a convertible on a Sunny day is about as much rest it got LML My first experience with tritium on a watch, and I have to say, damn, it works ;) What’s your thoughts on the GB-5600AA? looks interesting with that ((Vibe)) side ;) Cheers for passing, and hope I didn’t make you jump too much in the intro... HaPpY Sunday too

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman eBay has interesting deals on the GB-5600, high time you got one.

@@traviswalker8933 I've got an eye on two at the moment... it's the square ((VIBE)) that gets me, and not interested in the Bluetooth side, as that looks like it's for messages and calls??? I would flip the bezel and strap for a resin bracelet and DLC bezel if I do... yeah, found it through eBay while looking at the GLX-5600 :)

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman the Bluetooth is old and won't work properly anymore. Yeah it's for messages, calls, finding your phone and for synching the time. It's the daddy of the GW-B5600. That would be an interesting mod. Hope you get one to review on the channel soon. That watch needs a thorough review :D

@@traviswalker8933 Am just hanging on till they give into my offer, it's like fishing, they will tire, but you don't want to pi$$ them off... I thinking it'll be fun to review and to have in the collection, whether I keep it or not I'm not sure? Cheers as always my friend :)

Nice one, I actually founded out that genuine leather is the worst quality leather. It is leather thou.

@@Stanjara That could be the funniest thing I've read in the last 48hrs LML :-P Brilliant!

Buddy... I can tell you that Fenix watches aren't good for mud... the GW-9400 is a Master of G so should do well, but with plastic pushers on the GBD-H1000 that'll be a no in my opinion. If you need mud-resist then it needs metal barrel with metal pushers with triple O- seals at least like on the Mudmaster GWG and GPR-B1000... I've had my GW-9400 in mud, but never used the buttons while dirty. In my opinion, sea water is worse, much finer grit???

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman ok thanks you

That sounds like SEIKO with all their alignments of chapter rings and bracelet QA issues :-P Pricing is expensive, I can't swipe that to the side, and that's why I had to test this watch to really understand it... I get it, but that's the thing with watches, some are no argument to value like a CASIO EdiFice... but this seems to be a big topic with pricing, and yet those who buy a steel BOLEX with a dinosaur movement at £6000+ aren't even twitching when taking their credit card out, yet with a plastic watch that's 8.33% of the cost can't really make a mash potato out of it... I mean, is the GPR-B1000 worth £699, well it is if that person needs it. If you're looking at it as being plastic carbon instead of steel, then maybe look at super cars, as they're costing hundreds of thousands and are made of lightweight carbon plastic materials too... I know the engine is a RONDA that sounds like a HONDA, but maybe that's why, as HONDA's are reliable, plus if it goes wrong £35.99 for a new movement isn't going to ruin your day. I feel the fakes have been reviewed and bought and therefor judging it for the wrong reasons. If I didn't have this sent to me, i would pass, as it does look plastic, but I have to be honest, yes it's expensive, but it also has presence on my wrist today, I can't seem to remove it, so unless you've tried it for a few days you can't decide just by a picture or video... so I've really tried to show all the aspects of the watch, and why fibre composite was used, and then to discover that the composite is actually a better material... have a read on how it's used in industry, pretty amazing. A few are picking up on the mineral crystal instead of sapphire, I really can't believe this war is still at play and are not looking at the pros and cons on both sides, for me mineral is better for the harsher environments, sapphire can still get scratched on a brick wall, and believe me, I've done it. I guess the SWISS MADE has pushed the price and with Bear Grylls this has another following, but I'm looking at it as a package and will it survive on its own merit??? I feel I need to use this watch longer, and then give my thoughts after a year and really show how it works. At the moment I'm just using it without being a pussy, and today I'm working around the home and in my garage, and it's taken some knocks, so far it's still showing the correct time. I'm here to show the details, and if it ain't for you, then i've done a good enough job to show the full back and front cover. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the striking case back part at the end?? I thought that was genius LML :-P

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman true that. Carbon Fibre is making its way into the watch industry and even G-Shock is commercialising it. The barrel between mineral and sapphire is everlasting with people lauding the GWG-1000 Mudmaster for its sapphire crystal and dissing on the GG-B100 for having a mineral crystal. Your observation about Bolex is very true. These so called "collectors" don't even blink and they have the cash out for a "vintage" Bolex yet they bemoan about a G-Shock MR-G being expensive. Your piece is more better made than the one Watch Geek got which had QC issues and is the more expensive out of the bunch. But still, it being tough doesn't justify the cost for me. If it was priced at the £ 350-400 mark, it would've been reasonable.

@@traviswalker8933 I guess when it comes down to a real life survival, is a watch really needed, personally it would be as good as I need it to tell my bearing, as time is now something you don't need to count upon. Just reading about the company, I wonder where they will go? It also seems there's a hidden world with regards to them, but it's not Bear Grylls that's influenced me, it's about me and the watch now, and cost has past that point, my focus is about how endurable it is. The movement inside is a good choice, and having the RONDA in my Victorinox gives me confidence, also it's cheap to replace which is good to know, also serviceable unlike ETA who are very naughty. Always a pleasure chatting to you, you always have good thoughts and I like how you're into details like me.

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman thanks mate. I'm not like a typical watch guy who just buys into what brands are saying. I go into details, go nitpicky and then choose a watch. WatchGeek did go into their history and they were under new management in the mid-2000s. The Carbonox is an old concept which they have improved upon over the years. So whether they have made a watch which can match a G-Shock in terms of toughness remains to be seen in long term use. One thing that they can't beat a G-Shock in is the price which needs to be reasonable.

@@traviswalker8933 I like the fact better that brands should keep to their side, and not become that Android iOS mess... G-Shock stand alone, Garmin are known for GPS fitness and LUMINOX is part of that analog side with Marathon watches and the such, I feel no toes are being trodden on, and I will always be a G-Shock addict, it's my favourite brand, but I enjoy the other sides too, but am not going all flaff with BOLEX, they're on my hit list along with H Samual LML :-P The Sekonda you saw in my video has been really beaten up, it's on the fifth strap and it still works lovely, and it uses a cheap £1.20p Miyota movement, and the funny part, it's cheaper to replace the whole movement than to buy a battery, so work that out... actually it's like the rule of 6, no sense at all LML :-P

Hey buddy, cheers for the feedback and support, as you know opinions are always welcome on the channel, and this is important. I hear the sapphire thing all the time, and I don't understand this religion that sapphire is considered as the best, or why the majority have to lay heavy towards this? Now I've scratched sapphire on a few watches, and house bricks are good at this just to add... it doesn't scratch as badly as mineral. The thing with sapphire is that it's heavier and can shatter, whereas mineral cracks and stays complete... now if sapphire was that great, why isn't it used on smart phones? It's about the flex in the crystal, the more it flexes the more it can break, and with the surface area of a watch, you really need some bad luck... now I've not read that mineral is so bad that it's no longer used in the watch industry, and sapphire isn't expensive like it use to be, in fact some mineral crystals can cost more. Now it states that the LUMINOX I have is hardened and so far I've not got marks on it, and I've been overkill with it within reason. Now the Bear Grylls side, well this and having SWISS MADE has added some chunk to the price, but my point is to really try and understand the concept here, and until you have used one, you can't give any real facts apart from what you see and what others are saying. There's been many blogs with regards to fakes, and I feel these have gone into a few watch reviews without notice, a buddy of mine 'Avg. Joe Watch Reviews' had one and LUMINOX saw his unboxing video and said it wasn't genuine, so sent a replacement kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7t0gKR8pq3Znas.html This is just one case out of many. With the price point, even the GPR-B1000 is expensive, but when it comes down to the essentials, a watch is really something that isn't needed, in fact just a good knife is enough. The watch world has such a variation, and unless it's utter poop, then value and worth is only an issue if you're not a multimillionaire. I can flaw any watch if I wanted, I could rage into the Time Teller and be horrible and nasty, but my point is to show what a certain watch can offer with as much details as possible, and if it's not for you because of mineral crystal then that's mighty fine, and if like me think BOLEX watches are way over priced then all good in my neck of the woods, but this is the point, we are all different and have different needs... I'm still working on this watch, I need more time with it, but I get it, I'm not into Bear Grylls as I don't watch TV, so my aim was all about the watch and forget the marketing.... if it's made well and works as a reliable watch in survival conditions, then it's also going to be that do anything watch... sometimes I can't use my GPR-B1000 because it's too fat and big, so a more hugging watch is needed, just for time and to see that time day and night. It's like this watch needs a test run, as seeing the pictures isn't setting the realism like if it it's in the hand. The LUMINOX has a strong following, and would be nice to see them become something more with just their name to hand. I'm still wearing it, I can't seem to part with it, and it's so comfortable, and I mean it's like air on the wrist... I'm sure the fibre Composite makes you sweat less, or maybe it's the 'Genuine Rubber' LML :-P I will see if I can extend the user time, as I want to make a follow up video, for a decent amount of time, I don't want to flaff around with BS, when I test a watch, it's about really living with it... it's the side i'm more into with regards to details from a personal level, not from a guy who doesn't eat Bears. It's interesting for sure, and this could be one of the most challenging brands... I'm really wanting to try 'INVICTA' and see why the hate is there also? I really would like to know who is the trouble maker??? Btw, I like it, it has warmed to me, as before seeing Watch Geek review it, there was nothing pushing me. It's almost like when I wasn't sure about Garmin Fenix watches, but once I got one I can fully understand, these watches aren't cheap, and as of yet, CASIO EdiFice beat everything :)) Cheers again my friend and for being honest :)

Buddy I was the same, even when it arrived and I opened the box first time, which you saw in the video, you noticed my tone act not as excited as if I was being paid to lie LML :-P The compass too my attention as I wasn't expecting that, also I had the green to mind :-P The big pluses I'm living at this moment (have still got it as I need more time with it) is the fact that it still looks fresh, and I mean really like new fresh, maybe the stainless buckle and case back has signs of use, but the actual case, bezel and crystal are mint. I've continued wearing it and I've also been doing jobs inside and out including some mechanics, and it shows no signs of any marks. It's this side that convinces me, as the process to making a very high quality fibre composite has much involvement. I'm not sure what the properties are like say if it was a true diver's watch and was tested beyond 250mtrs? so maybe steel has better strengths there. It's an odd style of material to see on such a watch, and I agree with it looking cheap, but in the hand and under a loop, it's really well built. Some are moaning about the chosen movement being cheap, well i can only see the cheap being the price, and being that it's not a unique and over complicated movement, means it's fully serviceable, heck, you can even replace the movement... so all is very good when it has an expensive movement, but when it needs servicing or needs replacement parts, then it becomes a point of biting your wallet strings of throw it away?? There's so much more to this watch, and that's what I'm trying to live... most reviews are done with going really deep into the engineering side and to why it costs as much as it does... it does seem over priced, but the more I live the watch, the more I don't care... i'm not kidding, it's the most comfortable watch I've worn, and knowing why is something i'm working on, but the rubber strap isn't pulling my arm hairs, it's not making me sweat or itch, so to me this is a big thing.... anyway, more to come from this watch, and btw, I'm more into Ray Mears, mainly because fatter survivalists are finding food LML :-P

If there was, we would be having a grilling for sure LML :-P

Cheers buddy... Have you lived it in person? I'm convicted, and I've got the watch for longer so I can really test it, as I feel a week is way too short. I'm looking at getting some tritium tubes for other projects :)

Tritium puts the best lumes to shame. I’ve had a bunch of Marathons, a Luminox and a Traser. All of them had better lume than the very best Seiko.

@@kingofpentacles3213 Thanks for telling me about your experience, greetings.

I'm more Ray Mears, always stick with the fat survivalist LML :-P I've not seen much of Grylls as I don't watch TV, so was interesting to read a few articles about him, especially when he was growing up... There's quite a following for him, so that's a gain for LUMINOX, but my review is based up 'The Watch' and forget branding and that hype, I want to know is it really tough :)) Cheers for the support as always my friend ")

Well if you watched my review on my Oceanus you'll hear it for the first time there, and I have no problem mocking myself LML :-P The UV hairdryer is an oddity hey, well, this will be featured again... will come up with a name for it I'm sure, maybe Dyson UpV?

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman It has to be a blaster of some kind. Photon Ray Blaster aka PRB. And luminox...well. Lumi anus features bear on it...and an orange crown, uuu and its plastic. uuu...and... it makes you believe in yourself. That is the one. Belief. I would definitely name the next one..Bear Hope. But your review is awsome...25 Years of Lume! DW5600 all day, every day and daily!

@@Stanjara LML LML Lumi Anus LML LML damn, I need to make a coffee so I can spit it all out, man that was funny! Cheers for the feedback, was a full on video this one, and to film some of it was adding to the challenge... read the pinned comment, was a good conversation trying to understand this watch... again, it's on my wrist again today, well it wasn't removed as i'm continuously wearing it, mainly because it's the most comfortable watch I've every worn, and I really mean that. It doesn't twist on the wrist, and with the rubber strap it expands with my wrist, so doesn't pull my armchairs out, sorry arm hairs :-P The tritium is the big feature for me, I'm addicted and want this on all my anusanalogue G-Shocks :)) Which model of DW-5600? I've got the original 5600c from 1987 and I love its filament flickering backlight :)

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman I was a dealer for Gerber in my country, and everything Bear Grills touched fall apart. Always a warranty call on Bear Grills. It was very popular thou due to the survival show. Great marketing and easy to sell. But I was like..do people actually go out in a bout and fight bears? It's great that you like it cause you made a great video. My rule is if it doesn't have a threaded crown than it's a drees watch. Chopping wood is a great test for a watch. If it doesn't fall apart then, its probably ok. Chopping wood on your next adventure. I loved that tree brushing, and mud. Mine is 5600 classic Keanu Reeves...but I'm looking at that red ring of death in 5610.

@@Stanjara I really had no idea who Bear Grylls was until I saw Watch Geeks video, otherwise I just saw him as a holiday presenter :-P So for me my focus is more about the watch and none of the flaff behind it. I'm a die hard Leatherman guy, after 14 or so Swiss Army knives breaking, I've taken more trust with toughness to Leatherman now over the nice polishing of Swiss Army, but have to say, their finish is lovely :) Chopping wood is a good test, but today I was banging nails into one of my shed roofs, I used at least 200 nails, and guess what? The brushing of the trees, was more banging into them, and I must've hit over twenty trees in total, but this is more about the movement. Have you heard of Ray Mears? I like his way of construction and how he uses things around him that you wouldn't really see as useful, but TV can also lie LML :-P Is that the Fire Fox 5610?

LML well I've had Jeremy Clarkson and some guy from a US series, but Pepper Pig is a new one! Damn, Mrs Rangeman is now taking the oink out me now, Cheers! ;-P LML

LML :-P Now, did I get you in the beginning??? Merry times my friend :))

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman I just purchased the ICE-SAR 1203. Beautiful timepiece. I wish you could review one of the 1200 series.

@@seanbarnett8735 Hey buddy... That's a really interesting piece with a lot of details... the blue suits the name perfectly... I really am hooked on them now, so would love to review a few more from their line... can't promise but will keep an eye out and also if anyone wants to lend me one, that helps (not asking you btw) Cheers for your comment :)

@@WatchUP69MrRangeman I would absolutely let you review my piece. Unfortunately, I need it for Marine Corps OCS in January and need to hold onto it.

@@seanbarnett8735 Buddy, if you want to share a photo and maybe a few lines I can post this on my community page to share with all the viewers next year... my email in found on the channels page. Cheers buddy and all the best sliding into 2021 :)

Hey buddy... that compass can be slipped off just to mention... but I'm a full on G-Shock guy, think my videos show that, also my cover photo... but LUMINOX have impressed me, not all their designs, much like all watches anyway. Opinions are important on my channel, and if you don't like something then that's very normal indeed... I'm not someone who snowflakes on a negative, as we all have our own needs :) I'm pleased to have had the opportunity to review one in person... now CASIO needs to get some gas tubes on theirs, well the analog side at least :)

If Watcho didn't send this for a review, I would honestly not of looked for one... it's a strange affair, and after a good test with it, is when you start to understand it. I know there's some pennies for Mr Bear, and that it's Swiss which goes with always being over priced, but what you can't fault it is its tough and how it looks after a good soak and back rub LML Those ribbons was from me about 3yrs ago for a trial I did, and was amazed they were still there, only placed a few at main turning points, but helped with the content. I ended up doing over 12km's during the filming and was out for the best part of the day.... ate some wild mushrooms too, very yummy ;) Cheers for your feedback and will look at your latest, btw, I have the bell icon on for your videos so am also on track ;) Cheers and HaPpY Sunday my friend!

Buddy, I am Mr Rangeman, am also Mr Ocean Anus sometimes LML :-P