Water/Methanol Injector Design BREAKTHROUGH!

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3 жыл бұрын

AEM has updated its Water/Methanol Injection systems again, this time with a breakthrough injector design that improves atomization to deliver faster inlet temp cooling and use less fluid to maintain cooling. This dramatic improvement in injector technology is coupled with a new WMI pump design that is 100% waterproof, making it safe for engine bay and frame rail mounting. The V3 injector replaces the old V2 injector in all of AEM’s WMI systems and it can be purchased as an upgrade to existing systems (PN 30-3313).
In testing at AEM, the new V3 250cc WMI nozzle and the V2 250cc WMI nozzle both achieved a 90-degree inlet temp reduction; however, the V3 nozzle design achieved this reduction nearly 6.5 seconds faster. Think about 6.5 seconds in a racing environment. Having 6.5 seconds to get to the point where additional timing can be applied is huge. Consider that on an average sportsman drag car this can represent close to 40% of track time. On a road race car, applying more timing 6.5 seconds faster can mean a critical time to pass on a corner exit.
We then tested a V3 250cc injector against a V2 500cc injector to see if the larger V2 injector would improve cooling speed. The V2 500cc injector achieved nearly identical cooling speed as the V3 250cc injector, but it required almost 44% more fluid to achieve the same cooling. Less fluid used means fewer refills of your WMI tank and less money spent refilling it. Using the V2 500cc nozzle with a one-gallon tank, you will get close to 7 minutes and 50 seconds of run time at full pressure. Using the V3 250cc nozzle with a one-gallon tank, you will get 13 minutes and 30 seconds of run time at full pressure.
Timestamps:
00:37- What’s in the WMI kit?
3:01- V3 Pump Weather Proof Pump
3:30- The Bits
5:09- Wiring Harness
5:31- Safety PSA
5:51- AEM Controller
8:12- New V3 Nozzle Explained
10:01- Static Bench Testing
11:08- Inline Solenoid Explained
11:49- V2 Nozzle Static Test
12:39- V3 Nozzle Static Test
13:42- Dynamic Bench Testing
15:34- Dynamic Data Analysis
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Пікірлер: 60

@spdcrzy 2 жыл бұрын

Computational fluid dynamics engineers are crazy, man. This shit is so cool!

@jarlev80 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent data, thanks a lot! There are several vendors out there but very limited amount of testing, proving performance and results.

@DavidVizard 10 ай бұрын

Great video. Much of what you are saying has been confirmed by tests done for a Chrysler engine development program. A KZfaq video was done on this (PowerTec 10, episode 95) which talked about achieving octane levels as high as 250!

@alloutofdonuts3998 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like I gotta get me a v3 nozzle kit!! Great vid 👍

@seacradev5400 2 жыл бұрын

Received my kit last week, your dead on the packaging. Every part was well protected. The V3 spray pattern is top notch, and a kit that was simple for my tuner to apply it's benefit to my Taurus SHO. Don't let all the wiring spook any of you potential buyers. It really was designed to be stupid proof. And the kit did provide all I needed. My only mod i did was go to a brass T for boost. The T that comes with the kit is a very small and plastic. Other than that I rate this kit a 10.

@marklinley815 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the great video!!!

@RGHTBrainDesignDrive 3 жыл бұрын

Great job boys!

@PontiacSpazz 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely have a sale from me. Video was very in depth

@AmRFuKYaH 2 жыл бұрын

Is AEM going to consider selling rebuild kits for these nozzles to replace fragile and wearable components inside the nozzle such as the e EPDM o-ring or the check valve?

@tonylyons2414 2 жыл бұрын

I’m about to buy this for my big build I’m doing

@markhingst5368 3 жыл бұрын

Hellllll yeahhhh brother, making a good product better.

@TheAnonymous1one 2 жыл бұрын

This guy is well spoken and demonstrates the product well. 👍

@resuwrecked 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what the actual charge air temperature drop difference is with the v3 nozzle. The 6.5s quicker temp drop means the charge air was cold enough to drop the temp of the thermocouple itself that much faster. I imagine that using an IAT sensor would react quicker and show the temperature drop more accurately.

@robertnunez8722 3 жыл бұрын

Hey really awesome this kit, im looking for something like this for a mechanical DT466 Diesel engine which im planning to compound turbo, anything that can work with that kind of setup?

@geoffreym2769 2 жыл бұрын

In New Zealand we no longer have E85 so looking into water meth a bit more, I've only set one system up via a Link G4+ ecu and have become a bit of a convert. I'm looking to setup a system on all three of my cars Honda K24A and BMW135I and my JZA80 supra

@sircefiro Жыл бұрын

How did you go?

@sircefiro Жыл бұрын

Great vid, sounds like only need a single nozzle in most applications now? Any thoughts or kit for direct port?

@XNoSpacesX 2 жыл бұрын

The attention to detail is great, I honestly was going to go with a snow system but this changed my mind completely. I guess my only question is do you guys offer anything like a 5 gallon reserve?

@JasperSkallow Жыл бұрын

what is a snow system?

@410kane Жыл бұрын

I have a 5 gallon aem reserve tank. It's overkill for my application. I fill mine about halfway

@socalcasedog 3 жыл бұрын

wounder how this would work on a turbo rzr with the liquid intercooler .....🤔🤔🤔🤔

@BJ-Hunter513 3 жыл бұрын

I have to get this setup for my Silvia

@eurodj101 2 жыл бұрын

have a v1 kit in my s15 love it just ordered v3 nozzle!!

@blow0me 2 жыл бұрын

What is it like with the more typical sizes of like 1000cc upwards on semi powerful cars ? Or some guys run a couple of them ?

@patonbike 3 жыл бұрын

Stupid question, but does the temp of the injection fluid matter much? If you were to inject say 32F water/meth would it make a difference?

@lukedennehy6540 2 жыл бұрын

Hi quick question ,just got my aem kit does the rear of your nozzle bit that connects to nylon hose have any play in it ,mine seems to spin slightly ...thanks

@trialbyturbo9106 2 жыл бұрын

How many cc/min can a single pump support?

@chir0pter Жыл бұрын

Do you still recommend running lines into each intake runner for best results? Or does the new valve make this superfluous?

@AngryHerby 2 жыл бұрын

Can I use this on a burnout car instead of running my engine on M1 to keep it cool. I have issues with over heating and was told to switch to meth

@user-sj9et6eh5j 10 ай бұрын

please tell me at what angle you need to install the aem nozzle?

@ChrisPink-dx8rw Жыл бұрын

I have recently upgraded to the v3 500cc nozzle from the v2, I also have a flow gauge in the circuit which the V3 500cc is reaching 1000cc on the gauge is there a reason for this?

@eurodj101 2 жыл бұрын

My car is tuned with a 500cc v2 nozzle on a V1 kit , i use it on track days ,use to keep things cool and tiddy, idont need it sinceiuse 100oct but i do like the cooling benefits it brings....if i use the 500c on the older nozzle should i stick with 500c on the v3 or switch to 250cc to avoid it getting to rich on the mixture????

@AEMpowerTVelectronics 2 жыл бұрын

I would start with the 500cc and keep an eye on your AFRs making the necessary adjustments to the controller settings if you need to reduce the flow level.

@christos8189 3 жыл бұрын

Will the nozzle work for a pump that puts out 140PSI? I am building a budget kit and I believe this nozzle design is really advanced against competitor nozzles. I am wondering if the atomization will suffer or will it still function as intended. Thank you

@AEMpowerTVelectronics 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the atomization will suffer at lower pressures, however it likely will still surpass the pattern of other nozzles on the market. For best results I recommend the AEM 200psi Water methanol Pump.

@volkshandel Жыл бұрын

Hi what will happen if used on an Diesel?

@ShaddyDaBoss 3 жыл бұрын

Can I run this water meth kit as a substitute for an intercooler to bring charged air intake temperatures down?

@AEMpowerTVelectronics 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the system can be used in non-intercooled setups, however for best results we recommend pairing the WMI with an intercooler when space allows.

@kylejohn486 3 жыл бұрын

When and where can I get the new v3 version, I'm in New Zealand, and they only have old stock . Do you sell direct to customer, with frieght

@AEMpowerTVelectronics 3 жыл бұрын

Please give our sales team an email at sales@aempower.com so we can connect you with a dealer, the v3 nozzles have shipped with all of the v2 water methanol kits since July 2020. www.aemelectronics.com/dealer/find-a-dealer

@dcd2060 Жыл бұрын

Watched this video a few times to see fogger assembly and can’t get my wire hold down to go back in 😏

@nasimhaider281 Жыл бұрын

Can this kit be used with stock factory ECU ? I just want to spray water/Meth on my JDM H22A motor as an alternative to improve our poor fuel RON without the trouble of buying aftermarket ECU, TUNING and all .. My OBD2B motor mostly runs retard due to crappy fuel.

@dhuertas111 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a 90° push fitting for the v3?

@AEMpowerTVelectronics 3 жыл бұрын

No, unfortunately we do not have 90* fittings

@davidgolden6068 3 жыл бұрын

If coupled with a tuner module on a Cummins 5.9, would this help daily driving, non-towing MPG at all?

@AEMpowerTVelectronics 3 жыл бұрын

The WMI kit is a race part and not legal for street use.

@mattk252 3 жыл бұрын

Huge gain in mpg

@davidgolden6068 2 жыл бұрын

@@AEMpowerTVelectronics sorry, what I meant to ask was if I'm doing a 24hr LeMans with a Cummins 5.9, what kind of percentage mpg gains could I expect?

@pvblito 3 жыл бұрын

Is your controller able to connect to a JB4 for integration control and mapping?

@AEMpowerTVelectronics 3 жыл бұрын

That would be a good question for the guys at Burger Tuning, we're not sure what inputs or capability their JB4 systems have.

@mcgmhp7290 3 жыл бұрын

Hi what is the set system pressure 200psi or adjustable

@AEMpowerTVelectronics 3 жыл бұрын

The system pressure is fixed.

@ovalwingnut 10 ай бұрын

Love the kit. Very COoL hardware. Q. Is that 50/50 by weight or volume? Actually, both ratios are still flammable. You need

@HondaFit4Adventure 2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to have to try this out for showering purposes...

@AEMpowerTVelectronics Жыл бұрын

lol

@jselectronics8215 Жыл бұрын

Great demo.

@sffabrications3872 3 жыл бұрын

Curious if this nozzle could be run 100% meth and with a constant mechanical fuel pump. Our class doesn’t allow any electronics other than a magneto in an endurance car.

@jerryismybff 10 ай бұрын

16:11 has a serious issue that invalidates the conclusions made about 6.5 seconds faster cooling time. The V2 was not flowing water at the beginning of the test. Looking at the bottom data plot, the "Water Flow" graph clearly shows that the flow rate for the V2 nozzle drops to zero and then build pressure again which takes about 2-3 seconds. Furthermore, the "Solenoid Trigger" graph clearly shows the solenoid close during this period. This time discrepancy accounts for most of the shift seen in the top temperature plots. You can even see that the "Pre Nozzle" plot for the V2 system is shifted right as well.