Water Pump || DIY or Buy

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In this episode of DIY or Buy we will have a closer look at a small commercial 12V DC Water Pump. We will find out how it works and why it is called a centrifugal pump. Afterwards I will then 3D print a bigger water pump in order to find out whether it makes sense to DIY such a pump with a 3D printer or whether we should stick to the commercial solution instead. Let's get started!
Thanks to Trinamic Motion Control for sponsoring this video and sending an early version of their DOCK5 board, which features the ROCINANTE chip with integrated RISC-V processor.
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@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that quite a few people are disappointed that I did not improve the 3D printed pump with a metal shaft. So here is a quick explanation why I stopped at that point. The reason is quite simple and is called time. I already spent 60 hours on this project when I got to the point when the shaft broke. That of course includes everything like planning, getting parts, writing a script, doing test, filming,......... Of course I could have tried improving the pump with a metal shaft but due to other problems I noticed that come with such a 3D printed design, I decided that such an option would not be sufficient for my garden and declared buy as the winner. If I would not have done that, then there might have been a successful water flow with the 3D printed pump but then again I would probably not have enough time to produce the next video for my channel. I appreciate all your feedback and I also love to tinker and get things to work. But I still have to think about getting content out regularly because this is my full time job. You can always support me through Patreon if you do not like this concept. So I can pretty much independently decide how much time I want to spend on projects instead of thinking about how to please the KZfaq algorithm. Thanks for understanding.
@Ghyus01
@Ghyus01 4 жыл бұрын
I think that's fair enough! At some point you just have to call it quits. Thanks for being honest tho!
@ssstjepannn
@ssstjepannn 4 жыл бұрын
I like your channel!
@joashnaidoo8644
@joashnaidoo8644 4 жыл бұрын
Why can't this level of transparency exist in government also.... Great Scott for president???
@bhavyajain638
@bhavyajain638 4 жыл бұрын
So can we expect a part 2 of the video? I'm eager to know what would be it's flow rate.
@oniruddhoalam2039
@oniruddhoalam2039 4 жыл бұрын
What is the vga port on the microcontroller used for?
@Clement-xy9iv
@Clement-xy9iv 4 жыл бұрын
You should have drilled the plastic rotor axle, to replace it with a metal one. I guess this could have made your pump work a little better.
@Aybex97
@Aybex97 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but since the impeller is 3d printed, a plastic shaft would be present because if not, how would you couple the motor shaft to the impeler ?
@Tomas970506
@Tomas970506 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aybex97 You know that there is such a thing called shaft with a keyway?
@Clement-xy9iv
@Clement-xy9iv 4 жыл бұрын
I'd make a hole, and glue it, or use a shaft with a key-way as Thomas suggests for better results.
@johannesmuller1288
@johannesmuller1288 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tomas970506 or just drill through and put a screw in keyways are difficult to make without a mill
@laser69beam
@laser69beam 4 жыл бұрын
Clément 2000 THE VANES ARE BACKWARDS...!!!! How come no one is saying it..? SCOTT ITS BACKWARDS ;))) look at the vanes on the small pump you bought and see which way the vanes curve in respect to the direction of rotation ;))) 3:25 THEIRS (note exit hole location, impeller rotation direction and the angle of the vanes. 5:05 YOURS, note same things ;) @GreatScott!
@TheFinalRevelation1
@TheFinalRevelation1 4 жыл бұрын
I'm watching your channel after a long time. Used to watch it regularly. Great to see you grow so big.
@g45h96
@g45h96 4 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of issues with your diy solution. 1)the axle was thin enough that there was no contact with the bearing. The oscillation of not being held perfectly centered could have contributed to the shaft breaking 2)the long axis of the shaft was printed upright, meaning it could easily shear along the layer lines. Print it sideways so the layers run along the long axis of the shaft 3)petg is one of the most brittle 3d filaments out there. Abs would probably have been a better solution in the first place 4)3d printing the shaft was probably not the best idea in the first place 5)you could add a u groove in one of the sides of the pump enclosure, and lay a thick bead of silicon in it to create an o ring Those are the issues I'm seeing right off the bat. I'm sure there are more issues that led to failure, and I also saw a lot of areas that could be improved, but didn't necessarily lead to failure.
@HighVoltageMadness
@HighVoltageMadness 2 жыл бұрын
Just use a metal shaft. Or mount the impeller directly on the motor shaft. Then there is no need for any extra work. I would also add a seal for the shaft
@zainahmed4172
@zainahmed4172 11 ай бұрын
There is more, the pump isn’t primed” Which is important for it to work without any issues.
@g45h96
@g45h96 11 ай бұрын
@@zainahmed4172 true. Centrifugal pumps have a very difficult time pulling suction without sufficient pump head, as well as issues when cavitation happens or if there's large pockets of air. Air is compressible, and these types of pumps (impulse type impellers) are meant to really push incompressible fluids, not cause flow due to a pressure difference.
@TheFinalRevelation1
@TheFinalRevelation1 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed this in the first instance. I have made my own pumps but without 3d printing. I made small pumps by casting exposy resin and grinding it down. Now all you need to do is screw in proper shaft and add a waterproof bearing. These you could get from old blenders. Yes, the size will be large but you can adjust your shaft to be thick in the middle.
@jonjohnson102
@jonjohnson102 3 жыл бұрын
Remember, this is a sponsored video
@bjarnivalur6330
@bjarnivalur6330 4 жыл бұрын
4:59 Your fins are mirrored, that causes a lot of extra stress and resistance to flow.
@justd3fy
@justd3fy 4 жыл бұрын
could you elaborate? edit: nvm i figured out what you meant from someone elses comment. sweep angle is wrong
@charlesballiet7074
@charlesballiet7074 4 жыл бұрын
@@justd3fy more that that there are a even number of blades that cause cross pressure when the water is released on the output side
@wtfyman
@wtfyman 4 жыл бұрын
@@justd3fy Water is incompressible. The water is 'flung out' by the wheel and follows a spiral. The circumference of a circle increases with radius, so for conservation of mass, the cross section normal to the flow has to stay constant. This creates a certain geometry for a spiral.
@thorerik
@thorerik 4 жыл бұрын
@@justd3fy no, the impeller is facing the wrong way: www.researchgate.net/profile/John_Anagnostopoulos/publication/228664782/figure/fig3/AS:667634819403779@1536187953532/Sketch-of-a-centrifugal-pump-impeller.png The impeller should rotate towards the pressure side.
@Chaoddity
@Chaoddity 4 жыл бұрын
@@thorerik I went back through the video and you are indeed correct. Direction of rotation is clockwise from the back (outlet facing right): 8:29 Direction of the impellers requires clockwise from the front (outlet facing left): 5:08 the impeller needs to be taken out and turned around the other way. If he simply spun it the other way with the outlet where it is he would get some hellish eddies Honestly, this is the kind of design I would use for an air blower or vacuum not a water pump. A metal shaft and blades might have helped too.
@michaelrosenberg9008
@michaelrosenberg9008 4 жыл бұрын
You got so close and just said “eh whatever “ 😂 all you needed was a metal shaft and your gasket would’ve worked and you need to prime the pump but it’d have done the job
@christopherjones2301
@christopherjones2301 4 жыл бұрын
No. The forces that these pumps go through are extreme. Traditional centrifugal pump vanes are usually made of glass reinforced plastic and have extra reinforcement designed into the impeller just to handle the forces that are exerted on them. That large pump design was designed to fail, and I'm shocked that it wasn't the vanes that did.
@DSmartLife
@DSmartLife 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherjones2301 Yeah true, but in this case he made a very clear mistake. The impeller vanes/fins are wrong. It should be the opposite. We can compare to the commercial pump at 3:25 to the DIY one at 5:00. I dunno how Scott can miss it and commit such a fatal mistake. I hope he rectifies it and try with a metal shaft, it will definitely work to pump water if not on very high power.
@Zloy_nub
@Zloy_nub 4 жыл бұрын
what else do you expect? this video was made just to show that trinamic board
@Rc2Go
@Rc2Go 4 жыл бұрын
Christopher Jones yea no kidding, I fix pool pumps and the impeller is 1/4 the size of that thing on the orange pump he made. Meanwhile on pool pumps they are about 1-2 horsepower
@Ben333bacc
@Ben333bacc 3 жыл бұрын
@@DSmartLife It rotates the correct way. See later footage... Notice the rotation of the motor coupler??
@MarinusMakesStuff
@MarinusMakesStuff 4 жыл бұрын
I bet that Trinamic are great 'The Expanse' fans :) Lovely print on that chip!!
@officer_baitlyn
@officer_baitlyn 4 жыл бұрын
9:16 anyone with a 3d printer saw that one coming since 4:20 such a small cross section of 3d printed material is really weak especially when printed along layer lines
@l3d-3dmaker58
@l3d-3dmaker58 4 жыл бұрын
especially in PETG, PLA has the strongest layer bonding of the "low temp" materials unless you go to high temp like nylon in a heated chamber
@blubb7711
@blubb7711 4 жыл бұрын
@@l3d-3dmaker58 And PLA flexes less and the biggest mistake he made, is not actually using to bearing, but letting the shaft flapping in the breeze.
@ddegn
@ddegn 4 жыл бұрын
The was a pretty obvious problem even to those of us who haven't used a 3D printer yet. At least he leaves the comments open to let people tell him what he did wrong. Some KZfaq technical channels delete comments pointing out errors. The Raspberry Pi Guy has contributed to many destroyed boards because of bad directions. He deletes comments pointing out his serious mistakes.
@Alobster1
@Alobster1 4 жыл бұрын
Yup I would have printed that piece separately oriented another direction and glued it in. Or just used a metal rod.
@BrainSlugs83
@BrainSlugs83 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alobster1 even printed in a different direction, it still would have broke. Just get a small/cheap section of m6 threaded rod, and it would have been fine.
@MrDaniyalAh
@MrDaniyalAh 4 жыл бұрын
Should have tried a metal shaft. The rest could be 3d printed
@alvarodiaz2221
@alvarodiaz2221 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, first thing I though. Design a pump with less flow load and use a metal shaft. The massive eccentricity between the rotor and motor also did not help at all (the wobbling shaft)
@MCtomgie
@MCtomgie 4 жыл бұрын
Also didn't help that his 3d printer wasn't properly calibrated. You could see the top layer lines peeling away
@DutchStar
@DutchStar 4 жыл бұрын
Tomgie yes METAL for all shafts and hinges.
@alvarodiaz2221
@alvarodiaz2221 4 жыл бұрын
@@christianscandi yeah, while the thing in the upper layer is a problem (one that I'm having right now) it doesn't seem to have caused any failure at all
@Drxxx
@Drxxx 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l76TeMyA2r2vqGg.html&t DIY is winner!!!! i used motor direkt on impeller.. make 10meters lift.
@jordanducille8600
@jordanducille8600 4 жыл бұрын
this guy is one serious engineer. he knows his stuff
@Nothwarren
@Nothwarren 4 жыл бұрын
Did you see the "rocinante" and the drawing of the ship from the expense on the ship ? Nice touch ahah
@1234fishnet
@1234fishnet 4 жыл бұрын
I saw it. Hi five "Nerd". ;-)
@Unemerix
@Unemerix 4 жыл бұрын
Loyal soldier of the MCRN im glad im not the only one
@ambulocetusnatans
@ambulocetusnatans 4 жыл бұрын
To na kang setóp da mesach! Detim imim finyish du wa ting, im ye fo sémpere.
@-Yogo
@-Yogo 4 жыл бұрын
Da Rosi im gútegow xitim!
@SebaSera94
@SebaSera94 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you make a 5mm hole in the rotor and put a M5 bolt to be used as a strong shaft? I think your huge pump could work well! 💪
@shno_deela6986
@shno_deela6986 2 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't be able to seal it since a shaft seal can't work on threads
@mosta5
@mosta5 4 жыл бұрын
You could use a long m4 screw with two washers to act as a shaft . It would be more durable
@honich-eriker
@honich-eriker 4 жыл бұрын
8:52 „… does not work well with my small balls.” :-D
@shanthakumarasiri4910
@shanthakumarasiri4910 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Greatscott, Thank you very much for giving us Directions for our DIY projects through your experiments ...
@sparkyprojects
@sparkyprojects 4 жыл бұрын
The vanes on the orange pump curve the wrong way, that would put more strain on the shaft, although the shaft sould be bigger or replaced with metal
@maxk4324
@maxk4324 4 жыл бұрын
Also he's spinning it the wrong way even for the given vane direction (ie trying to suck through the outlet) I'm not sure he realised this though as he still tried to use the intended outlet as the outlet. I think you can even see it push a bit of air into the bath tub water near the end. Edit: I was wrong, see Daniel's comment bellow for why. Short answer is that centrifugal force wins out over any effects that the blade angle or curvature could impose.
@sparkyprojects
@sparkyprojects 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure about that, he was hand turning it the right way, but much like wagon wheels on western movies, the shaft could look as though it's turning the wrong way when powered.
@danielrouw2593
@danielrouw2593 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxk4324 vane curve has very little effect on centrifugal pumps. Direction will effect it but not reverse flow.
@xeigen2
@xeigen2 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxk4324 It will still pump water, even with the vanes curved the wrong way. It will just be very inefficient because it causes a lot of turbulence, the pump is fighting itself. But the fundamental principles of centrifugal pumps mean it will never reverse flow. In-fact forward curved centrifugal pumps do exist but are mainly used in air pumps and tend to have smaller vanes closer to the edge of the impeller.
@AndyPue
@AndyPue 4 жыл бұрын
@@danielrouw2593 The curve has a high effect on the flow dynamics inside the pump. seeing them at 5:00 they are the wrong way. They should be curved in the rotation direction, so they "throw water" into the outlet part - not shovel it in circles. The turn direction by hand was correct there.
@tylercollins4125
@tylercollins4125 4 жыл бұрын
9:26 they probably used the motor shaft instead of a 3d printed one, judging by how close the motor is to the impeller
@rueebliortak
@rueebliortak 4 жыл бұрын
its also badly printed, the layers look terrible
@joshuasorensen1346
@joshuasorensen1346 4 жыл бұрын
Having printed one of those tiny ones, I can confirm that it does use the motor shaft. The impeller just friction fits directly onto the motor shaft.
@s.sradon9782
@s.sradon9782 4 жыл бұрын
@@rueebliortak no, it is clear that the parts were printed on a raft, however this should not affect the shear strength of the shaft.
@luca_sbll
@luca_sbll 4 жыл бұрын
@@s.sradon9782 The layers being perpendicular to the shaft certainly contributed to its weakness and failure. Also, he printed the fins the wrong way around, which creates more drag and stresses the shaft a lot more. Still, a metal shaft would have been a much better idea
@RogerWilco1
@RogerWilco1 4 жыл бұрын
Hadn’t heard of Trinamic. Now I have, checked out their site. Just what I needed! Good sponsor to have.
@SimonCas
@SimonCas 4 жыл бұрын
I love this series
@homo_sapiens_sapiens
@homo_sapiens_sapiens 4 жыл бұрын
7:38 *The Expanse* fans? 🚀
@jayanderson5823
@jayanderson5823 4 жыл бұрын
me haha
@henterpeter4806
@henterpeter4806 4 жыл бұрын
Is that black rectangle with the Roci a chip or is it just decoration?
@homo_sapiens_sapiens
@homo_sapiens_sapiens 4 жыл бұрын
@@henterpeter4806 yes it's a chip
@Artemis-zl5cs
@Artemis-zl5cs 4 жыл бұрын
glad im not the only one who noticed lol
@andymouse
@andymouse 4 жыл бұрын
Love that show!...cool looking chip!
@HighVoltageMadness
@HighVoltageMadness 4 жыл бұрын
Use a metal shaft for the impeller and it will work perfectly. I have made several 3d printed pumps with no issues. Simply attach the impeller directly to the metal shaft of the motor. I understand that it wasn't worth your time though. Also your pump impeller had blades that are curved in the wrong direction. they need to be curved backwards to the direction of rotation.
@dozzed
@dozzed 4 жыл бұрын
This video just need a second episode. It is so fun.
@er.kakshshah2868
@er.kakshshah2868 4 жыл бұрын
Great job mr scott you proved that everything is possible by ourselves. I really appreciate your work and dedication.
@aleks138
@aleks138 4 жыл бұрын
the sweep angle of the 3d printed vanes is backwards.
@dtesta
@dtesta 4 жыл бұрын
"I noticed the big tubes did not work well with my small balls (bowls)" Funny :)
@nonothebot
@nonothebot 4 жыл бұрын
Very instructive.
@electronic7979
@electronic7979 4 жыл бұрын
Nice project. I like it
@maggiorenne1
@maggiorenne1 4 жыл бұрын
Any other "The Expanse" fans caught the reference? :D
@1234fishnet
@1234fishnet 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I got it. Hi five "Nerd". ;-)
@mechanicalcyborg3686
@mechanicalcyborg3686 4 жыл бұрын
First thing I noticed when he displayed the board on screen!😁
@SKYWURX
@SKYWURX 4 жыл бұрын
Massive smile when I saw that! Kudos to Trinamatic
@MrSopuli3
@MrSopuli3 4 жыл бұрын
That was such a wrong use of teflon tape in the beginning I love it
@rominhawk3949
@rominhawk3949 4 жыл бұрын
Great Scott, you are great. Thank you for all your awesome videos. You can always replace the plastic impeller shaft with a metal one.
@mylesalexander2457
@mylesalexander2457 4 жыл бұрын
I love the look on your face as you scowl at the garden out the window.
@TRMrStone
@TRMrStone 4 жыл бұрын
0:08, yeah, the "winter" in Germany now is incredible!
@batery5156
@batery5156 4 жыл бұрын
Ja da skokmt aber noch
@goodfis624
@goodfis624 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from Russia. Its from -1 to +1 for last 2 months insted of usual -10/-20. Its best winter in my memory and i'm loving it. We're starting to think global warming isnt a bad thing after all.
@TRMrStone
@TRMrStone 4 жыл бұрын
@@goodfis624 Shit 😂, my sister is sad because here isn't even snow. And we have like 7-13 instead of - 5 - 3 or colder / warmer
@TRMrStone
@TRMrStone 4 жыл бұрын
@@batery5156 mal hoffen, will Rodeln D:
@batery5156
@batery5156 4 жыл бұрын
@@TRMrStone lebt im Harz da war ich mal im Winter war so geil bin da auch mal vom Berg mit demm Schlitten gefahren besste Zeit ever fahren halt nur 3 Stunden dahin
@dr.rumack7668
@dr.rumack7668 4 жыл бұрын
Nice experiment there. I enjoy your sunday videos every time. A steel shaft for the impeller(fine tuned inner diameter for the shaft) with two 608s in line would improve things. Mach weiter so!!!
@WayneEarls
@WayneEarls 4 жыл бұрын
Great Scott!
@clion520
@clion520 3 жыл бұрын
I liked it, thx for the comment on the time to put things together.
@nosafetyswitch9378
@nosafetyswitch9378 4 жыл бұрын
Instead of printing the shaft as a cylinder, you can rotate the model in the slicer 90deg and print it so that the layers are parallel to the axis of the shaft. This will add a TONNE of strength compared to your current design. You will have a lot of supports to remove in the end it won't looks as pretty bu it will be hidden anyway😉
@matkany
@matkany 4 жыл бұрын
Please do the irigation automatization. It would help a lot.
@margitvarganemunkacsi9700
@margitvarganemunkacsi9700 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice video!
@blakdeth77
@blakdeth77 4 жыл бұрын
lol I like the Expanse reference on the speed controller.
@laser69beam
@laser69beam 4 жыл бұрын
Dude you need an aquarium ;))) And at 5:09 the pump vanes are backwards bud 6:08 STILL BACKWARDS...!!!!! ;))) If you have the canes in the correct orientation then it might not fight itself and won’t have such stress forces.
@killallfornothing
@killallfornothing 4 жыл бұрын
You forget about plastic axle what is not fitting to bearing... It is better to use real sealing like simmering or o-ring. It is also better to make small one with higher rpm than bigger with lower.
@honza3304
@honza3304 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are! It's kind of disappointment. From mechanical point of view this pump is terrible ...
@TheRealMMC
@TheRealMMC 3 жыл бұрын
Its not necessarily his fault that the pump vanes were backwards. Remember that he used a user created file that he just downloaded and printed.
@pantherdev0123
@pantherdev0123 4 жыл бұрын
Idk why, but i really like water pumps
@imakeitwhynot
@imakeitwhynot 4 жыл бұрын
haha I like the sound of defeat in " Buy is this time, like most of the time, the winner".
@anandsingh8987
@anandsingh8987 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, the same I was trying to get a automatic water supply solution for my garden, which works on three input (humidity/moisture, time and temperature)
@pesterenan
@pesterenan 4 жыл бұрын
Every video he says "Stay Creative" his voice gets up a tone xD
@Azevedogustavo12
@Azevedogustavo12 4 жыл бұрын
Olha só se não é o Pesterenan
@felipe_andres
@felipe_andres 4 жыл бұрын
You need make a second part for upgrade and fix the pump.
@sebastiano246
@sebastiano246 4 жыл бұрын
great job man!
@francescofabbri5398
@francescofabbri5398 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing videos thanks!!
@matsandersen6119
@matsandersen6119 4 жыл бұрын
the diameter of the impeller axle shaft, made me react instantly :-) Otherwise it was a nice video
@luca_sbll
@luca_sbll 4 жыл бұрын
Not the biggest issue honestly
@Dreez
@Dreez 4 жыл бұрын
00:14 I totally *NEED* that 😋
@jagadishchakraborty6936
@jagadishchakraborty6936 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video. You have not only printed a pump set but also discussed about its advantages and disadvantages. Some other KZfaqrs are there who just takes credit of making a pump without any actual result.
@alastairchestnutt6416
@alastairchestnutt6416 4 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your videos, buy vs build. Keep up the good work. Thanks
@TTrevolverheldTT
@TTrevolverheldTT 4 жыл бұрын
The Expanse :D 7:35
@ImSoNotSleepy
@ImSoNotSleepy 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!
@Trian111
@Trian111 4 жыл бұрын
second attempt with metal shaft?
@An.Individual
@An.Individual 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this interesting video.
@aparnakrishnamurthy9710
@aparnakrishnamurthy9710 4 жыл бұрын
All your videos are good.
@joshm264
@joshm264 4 жыл бұрын
2:43 why do I find this funny
@mr.coolio4321
@mr.coolio4321 3 жыл бұрын
Bc it is
@blenderNOOb69
@blenderNOOb69 4 жыл бұрын
Your impeller is wrong. As it is, it tries to draw inverts.
@EasyOne
@EasyOne 4 жыл бұрын
Good job
@KermitFrazierdotcom
@KermitFrazierdotcom 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely Always Look at the Dimensions!
@cybersholt
@cybersholt 4 жыл бұрын
Never seen anyone use Teflon tape on barb fittings before....
@hugowoesthuis
@hugowoesthuis 4 жыл бұрын
3:43 That's what she said...
@mr.coolio4321
@mr.coolio4321 3 жыл бұрын
... *sighs now that all faith is lost in humanity
@hugowoesthuis
@hugowoesthuis 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.coolio4321 2020 isn't over yet!
@ferh12
@ferh12 4 жыл бұрын
oh my that pcb with the Rocinante spaceship from The Expanse looks awesome
@milosilic3977
@milosilic3977 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh, look at that Noctua fan on 3D printer! Beautiful! :)
@redkeks9992
@redkeks9992 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you try that with other materials? (in the 3D Printer)
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I could have tried ABS. But I doubt that ABS would have been the solution. It would have been better to use metal for the wheel shaft. The rest of the pump might have been able to deal with the forces. But then again there were a bit more problems with the 3D printed pump that did not make it in the video. I think even if I invested more hours in the DIY pump, the result would not have been that much better. That is why I decided to stop as soon as I realized that PETG could not handle the forces.
@redkeks9992
@redkeks9992 4 жыл бұрын
But waht is wiht PLA?
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 4 жыл бұрын
PLA can take less forces than PETG and ABS.
@Krmpfpks
@Krmpfpks 4 жыл бұрын
@@greatscottlab PLA is definitively stronger than PETG and ABS but it is more brittle and not water tight. Maybe a steel shaft and nylon for the impeller would work.
@miawgogo
@miawgogo 4 жыл бұрын
@@greatscottlab How was the shaft sliced, would slicing it in a different way mean it wouldn't shear like it did
@PrajjalakChattopadhyay
@PrajjalakChattopadhyay 4 жыл бұрын
Next episodes of Greatscott: LEDs - DIY or buy? p-n junctions - DIY or buy? n-type silicon - DIY or buy? silicon crystal - DIY or buy? sand - DIY or buy? 🤣🤣
@edmonddyogi6411
@edmonddyogi6411 4 жыл бұрын
Rocinante! Nice! :)
@MyTubeSVp
@MyTubeSVp 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have done quite some 3D printing myself, and I saw the weak point from a mile away ... 😀👍
@the9tailsupersaiyan
@the9tailsupersaiyan 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Great Scott: *H O T G L U E*
@hempbear
@hempbear 4 жыл бұрын
When in doubt - hot snot it!
@TheRainHarvester
@TheRainHarvester 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it will hold. Especially with cold water after a few weeks.
@mgfails9274
@mgfails9274 4 жыл бұрын
8:52. That's what she said :)
@virtual_ninja810
@virtual_ninja810 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@peerappel2012
@peerappel2012 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@davidbranquinho4796
@davidbranquinho4796 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos bud. Been a subscriber for a while now and never miss a video. Keep up the good work.
@liquidsonly
@liquidsonly 4 жыл бұрын
I have that Chinese exact pump. It's been sitting at the bottom of a water butt for two years. Still working. It switches on when the soil gets dry. I designed a capacitatave sensor thing to activate the pump. It moslty works. I added a float sensor so that it never runs when the water butt was empty. Happy plants.
@DD-DD-DD
@DD-DD-DD 4 жыл бұрын
The design you chose is pretty terrible. Also not really comparable at all to the commercial one.
@XMaster96DE
@XMaster96DE 4 жыл бұрын
I am watching you now for some years and normally enjoy your videos, but this was unfortunately your worst one.
@233kosta
@233kosta 4 жыл бұрын
OK, the Roci on a chip sold it for me!!!
@reasonablebeing5392
@reasonablebeing5392 4 жыл бұрын
I designed a similar project a few years ago. I used a submersible aquarium pump which is self-priming with magnetic drive. You need to ensure that not only the flow is good but the "head" or how high the pump can pump the water is also adequate. I had some hanging plants. Interested in seeing the control and measurement part of the design.
@cellist2410
@cellist2410 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf?!? I looooove the motor controller board with the IC named Rocinante!! It's the ship from the expanse, but u guys knew that already. It's a must watch show!
@AnandKumar-ym9yw
@AnandKumar-ym9yw 4 жыл бұрын
So close to perfection.
@TheMrSakib
@TheMrSakib 4 жыл бұрын
I've made small water pump with junk plastics, metal and dc motor. I've made the fan by cutting and and glueing plastics and metal. The performance is satisfactory for a small pump. The most important thing is I had fun doing it :)
@MrFernandoBedoya
@MrFernandoBedoya 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing pump. Engineering is just like this...try, try, try and try it again until you get the desired results. Congratulations.
@doxielain2231
@doxielain2231 4 жыл бұрын
I use flexible filament for seals on outdoor long term timelapse cameras, and they work pretty well
@oneguyontheinternet9998
@oneguyontheinternet9998 3 жыл бұрын
My first time seeing this youtuber & I appreciate his efforts & I have subscribed. I do have a comment for all those who are coming across as critical. His purpose was determining whether it was worth diy or not. So he succeeded in his purpose. Realize that commercially manufactured pumps are (generally) designed by college educated engineers who are experienced in pump design. While I found many of the comments to be beneficial to my own education, it simply wasn't worth the time for him to research and learn all of that in order to accomplish his goal.
@electricalengineeringforkids
@electricalengineeringforkids 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@nesra8786
@nesra8786 4 жыл бұрын
Amos approves your mechanical skill, Naomi wrote that code.
@henterpeter4806
@henterpeter4806 4 жыл бұрын
That automated greenhouse project that you mention at the beginning of the video sounds really interesting. Please keep us updated on that.
@mohammedal-alaw6249
@mohammedal-alaw6249 4 жыл бұрын
I have long ago predicted that the laminated 3D printing is rather (we have one in the lab.) weak; thank you for proving my foreseeing!
@mohammedal-alaw6249
@mohammedal-alaw6249 4 жыл бұрын
may be if you drilled a hole for a metal shaft; but this is too much work and you do not have much space for this operation!
@Rainbow__cookie
@Rainbow__cookie 4 жыл бұрын
Finally i can make my own water pump to my watercooled build
@wayahedia9989
@wayahedia9989 4 жыл бұрын
I had this same problem. Get an RV style pump and a ballast. Works perfectly with hoses. Much less work than 3D printing. Shuts itself off, runs on 12V. Cheap. Extremely effective.
@boblewis5558
@boblewis5558 4 жыл бұрын
Large pump is worth a revisit BUT using: 1. A stainless steel shaft instead of the plastic one 2. Stainless lock nut on the outside end of the shaft, captive bolt head at the inside 3. Use normal bathroom silicone sealant bead to seal the outside cap 4. Probably MOST important ... Use a sealed bearing AND shaft water seal on the inside between the bearing, the shaft and the housing Great video as usual.
@brunorrfernandes
@brunorrfernandes 4 жыл бұрын
please @greatScott during the creation of your green house, share how you do it, that way we can see the cool stuff such as humidity measures and auto watering
@reycors6871
@reycors6871 3 жыл бұрын
cool one
@Davidslabofficial
@Davidslabofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@anycatdessai
@anycatdessai 4 жыл бұрын
Yet again we get projects exactly at the right moment. Logged into KZfaq after closing a dispute with AliExpress over failed delivery of a 12v water pump and voila! We now know how to make one ourselves. Some day in near future I think we need a material science class with regards to 3d printer materials.
@FalconicofPern
@FalconicofPern 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this boils down to your R&D restrictions: there are numerous solutions that all might help fix the issues with DIY that you found. Perhaps try to use those solutions when you actually get to implementing it in your greenhouse system. Printing in another direction or not with the layered extrusion method might help, or using metal parts for things like the shaft will very likely solve it. Great video even if it was less conclusive than you like to be, time constraints are tough to work with! :)
@chrissimpson3451
@chrissimpson3451 4 жыл бұрын
Go for a gear or screw pump, they are self priming. This might be a better option for your garden, as you will not need to fill your pump with water each time you need to water your plants. Gear and screw pumps can also be used to prime a centrifugal pump
@MrZenerTech
@MrZenerTech 4 жыл бұрын
You can always make parts like the shaft thicker to increase strength. Additionally, there are many other materials you can print with, such as carbon fiber, to get much stronger parts. I would consider magnetically coupling the impeller instead of a direct drive. Also, I would experiment with different blade design to make for more efficient fluid transfer.
@zachhoy
@zachhoy 4 жыл бұрын
glad you spent the time to figure this out and not me!
@bansheedearg
@bansheedearg 4 жыл бұрын
For low pressure I use Rule boat bilge pumps, cheap and rock solid. For high pressure I use RV water pumps that will do 55 psi, for things like spray emitters irrigating my lawn.
@skyoreece9805
@skyoreece9805 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and I'm glad you tried so hard. Love your videos and keep up the good work. X
@pokulan
@pokulan 4 жыл бұрын
Lol... Printing the smaller pump with metal axle is a winner... Not a commercial one
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