I've got a great guy in audio. He hasn't worked on all the videos but the ones with great audio are his.

I didn't realize the background sounds until you mentioned it. I replayed with my earphones. Huh. Wow, it sure makes the video so much better than my original thoughts. Thanks.

Thanks. I really appreciate that. I think for the number of videos and the 6 months I've been posting, the channel is doing pretty well. Some of my videos get way more views than other bigger channels. It just takes time to grow.

Another channel that provides the perspective of the sailors on these disasters is called "Maritime Horrors" and these 2 channels can perfectly cover events if they happen to overlap

Agreed

You are correct. I just found him this week. Been binge watching when off work.

Agree 100%. Even the centuries part funny enough! My paternal family has been sailing since at the very least back to the late 1600s. I wish I knew more about some of the footage he showed of typhoon sailing. The sea truly is a marvelous thing to behold, I’m just in awe looking at those huge waves shaking steel giants.

I see the term force when describing storms but here in Texas I've not heard the term before. We use the cat system for hurricanes but I'm wondering if you know if the force system is used for something different or if they are 2 different systems of rating storms?

@@mattiOTX Look up the Beaufort Scale. Been in use for nearly 200 years & used by mariners all over the globe

@@zetectic7968 will do, thanks for the info. I'm just not well informed on the scale. Here in SE Texas on land we get a lot of storms but we tend to pay attention to things once they hit tropical storm status before moving into the cat system.

New Zealander here, I remember many horrific ferry crossings between South and North island when I was young.

I was on a ferry from Newcastle to Holland it was an overnight deal just after the sunset a storm hit and it was brutal... Fast forward about 3 months now in Istanbul a ferry to a small island and once again a storm hit, the surge was so strong that the ferry actually bent in the midsection the keel was straining so hard from forces that the noise it made was deafening.

Thanks. Welcome aboard

Thanks. I'm on holiday until beginning of Jan so no videos over Xmas new year. I haven't been home to South Africa since covid so I've brought my son to meet his family. Busy researching new stories. See you when I get back

Thanks

@@waterlinestories Stop using random, unrelated film footage. How many ships did you show in addition to the one? you displayed video of so many different ships i paused it to thumbs down and search for a better video, on the same topic. Nothing pisses me off more than an "educational" video using fake footage that is not accurate at all. You showed at least a down ships here and only one was real, but the viewer doesn;t know what to trust,

Ok fair point. I'll have to think about how to differentiate between actual images of the ship in question and those that demonstrate the point I'm trying to make.

Thanks. Could I ask you to clarify what you mean about not restricting myself and upload any recounting I see fit? I'm always interested in constructive feedback

⁠​⁠@@waterlinestories That worked out well.

Thanks. I appreciate that

Thanks. I certainly hope so.

Yes we’re hoping to gain more stories and content to build our channel as well.

@@americanunderwaterservices my email address is on my about page. So me a message so we can connect. I'm happy to help out if I can. It's always good to have a network with similar interests.

It was a bad presentation because he used random, unrelated film footage the whole time, making it hard for viewers to determine what was real or not. Trash video does not deserve subscribers.

@@DizzyDad I couldn’t care less what you think. Nor do the other 9.61k subscribers, at the time of writing this.

Not strictly necessary. But whenever you have to get people and cargo off one mode of transport and onto another there is a significant cost in time and resources. Unloading, transport from one to another, load. Or disembark check out, check in etc. It all adds up.

Its less about the people and more about cargo, specially the stuff that goes inside boxcars commonly known as "break bulk" cargo. Break bulk can take several hours to be transloaded from inside the boxcars, to the docks, wiched aboard and accomodated in the cargo holds. By having the train go into the ship you turn the 6 hour transload into an hour at max car spotting and chaining op.

At my last property, I had a sugar cane train ferry pile driven into the bank outside my house. It had been there an age and apparently ran aground in mist and what ended up being my land was the bend in the river. We charged folk 10% (roughly) of their catch to fish off the wreck. Also fun to occasionally appear at the top of the (8 metre) cliff above the wreck when the tour boats came through😂 Train ferries used to be reasonably common

Ha ha. I’m from Joburg

Will do. They take time

Thanks, I'll put it on the list

Thanks I appreciate that. Interesting to hear that the clothes are noticed. Even better to hear that my style of delivery is what counts. 👍🏻

Thanks I appreciate that

Thanks. I’ll do my best

not quite sure of the definition of sister ships... (this seems to be quite a different vessel), but Takachiho Maru still seems to be in operational under the name, off south Taiwan (mostly as a postal cargo ship between Keelung and the Tong-Zhau in the southern Islands)

Yes I think that plays a huge role. Thanks for your thoughts

@@waterlinestories Cheers! Out of interest, would I have won or lost the bet? 😆

I read the report about the accident and the changes implemented afterwards. At the time this was the only route to get across and the ship captains felt a huge responsibility to make the crossing knowing that people needed the crossing. But actually the captains were the only ones making the decision. They actually changed that so that the pressure to call off a crossing was dispersed to more than one person including land personnel who were looking at things like the weather. So you would have lost the bet on this one. But I can see where you are coming from. On other stories I've covered that are in the oil rigs, the management on land were involved in the decisions and they sent men out to die in the storms. I think it's a difference between getting passengers or not.

@@waterlinestories Good research cheers. I completely agree then, sadly it was all on the Captain. Great videos, thanks!

fire me, I am not going out into a Typhoon.

Yes exactly. I think a lot of what you've said had become the standard for today. Certainly Inn the larger routes.

Kinda, I would always leave the final decision to the person on scene but there should be systems in place as checks before it gets to the captain. Sometimes a system can give you the go ahead but actually on site you might decide against their recommended action. It's generally how the military works where the commander in site has final say in operations because they have information that the commander possible hundreds of miles away may not have but that also requires the off site command to provide as much information as possible such as in this case the typhoon slowing down and not actually passing to be passed onto the commander that is on site. I do believe this is actually the most common system nowadays in many fields.

Yep good point.

I have a 1950's copy of Nicholls Seamanship And Nautical Knowledge which goes into detail about shallow water anchoring during bad weather. It's recommended to perform it with two anchors splayed out in a 90* arc in front of the ship, each anchor pointing 45* port and starboard of the apparent wind. This is still taught today in yachtmaster qualifications etc. So it wasn't the decision of a "psycho", it was in fact the decision that was in line with merchant marine qualifications and regulations. Both of the period, and today.

That captain was ready to go kamakaze from the start. Not a good captain. Zero honor

​@@theoriginaldylangreene just because it can be done, doesn't mean that it's the best option - I believe that's what the OP was trying to say. Also I may be wrong but I got the impression from the video that the ferry only had one anchor, which is a wildly different scenario from two anchors at a right angle to each other; not to mention that they weren't able to set the anchor. At that point, if engine power were still available, then returning to port seems like the best option, but of course this is all academic with the benefit of hindsight.

It’s open to air in both sides so their is no difference in pressure

You have to be a member of Wikipedia in order to be able to edit it and wear a tiny hat.

@@garrysekelli6776 No kidding you have to join to edit. It's not hard to do.

😳Nah this is more fun.

@@waterlinestories I enjoy your videos so please keep making them.

Will do

You aren't able to subtract one number from another on a calculator?

With what magical force are you proposing the bow get pointed toward the beech? Once swells start slapping the sides, without steam or power to thrust, you're SCREWED. You can swing the rudder and hope for the best, but hope is PISS POOR for actually accomplishing a g** d*** thing against the sea. I will accept that beaching "regardless of hull shape" has been considered in emergency management... BUT since the days of a couple stalwart sailors manually shoving a rudder by leverage from the deck of a boat, there is little or no hope what so ever of producing thrust or useful force that way... and it was pretty weak in the day when they COULD do that. Hydraulics simply lack the capacity for speed to swing a rudder around like a fish's tail... It's ONLY a plane of control against which you NEED prop-wash to get any useful steerage. Anyone who's been a coxswain or helmsman knows that. ;o)

Wikipedia serves a very specific agenda, and if you read between the lines, it becomes obvious.

@@EddyOfTheMaelstrom and said agenda is?

@@voimatuomasjukka4900 Agenda 2030. Do your own research

​@@voimatuomasjukka4900 he won't say what he thinks the "agenda" is because it's complete bullshit and he's just trying to be overly cryptic, don't worry about it

Cool story guy. Maybe put it on a video that actually has something to do with Wikipedia. So what he mentions wiki is wrong about the order of events.

Well That's how we pronounce it in South Africa. Tomatoes tomahtoes and all those various pronunciations around the world. 👍🏻