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@nielsvanbakel7791 5 жыл бұрын
When building a waterblock for the first time it is always a good idea to test it for any leaks by installing it on a motherboard...
@bailey2624 5 жыл бұрын
when they have 100's of MBs laying around who cares
@syndaquil4838 5 жыл бұрын
More drama
@toxiccan175 5 жыл бұрын
He’s sarcastic @tards
@mr.feghouli403 5 жыл бұрын
Ongelooflijk hoe weinig mensen jouw sarcasme snappen man.
@TalkieToaster. 5 жыл бұрын
And always do it in the bath using a toaster as a workbench.
@dynamicpaintball 5 жыл бұрын
It stresses me out that the $40,000 camera is sitting in the same container i store my Christmas decorations in, and also looks like a pile of rubbage.
@victorguo9184 5 жыл бұрын
Electronics are just fancy sand
@OrangeC7 5 жыл бұрын
@@victorguo9184 I mean you're not wrong
@JesusMeza3 5 жыл бұрын
@@victorguo9184 fancy sand that costs $40,000
@TheZankoh 5 жыл бұрын
Red Camera's are over hyped junk. They are what film students use when they can't get their hands on an Arri.
@milagrosjereza9354 5 жыл бұрын
Because a $40,000 RED Camera and $40,000 worth of iPhones look the same when incinerated, they're just sand.
@512TheWolf512 5 жыл бұрын
Testing a self-made water block exclusively by using it as intended... What a literal mad lad
@traviswessels5814 5 жыл бұрын
I made a handmade water cooler block for less than $0.20 out of a box of scraps that I made in 2001 and it still works to today it really isn't that hard
@landen1234 5 жыл бұрын
@@traviswessels5814 quiet, water cooling is supposed to be magic and sorcery.
@kcscustom9759 Жыл бұрын
Lol how else would you test it? There quite literally is no other way to know the performance..
@alexstromberg7696 Жыл бұрын
@@kcscustom9759 they mean leak test it.
@marcopolo8584 Жыл бұрын
12:52 "Do you not trust Parker?" this line cracks me up every time
@godnaut 5 жыл бұрын
Just 50K worth of camera sitting stacked in a plastic tub lol. Never change Linus.
@dubbarrelyt4428 5 жыл бұрын
Haha ikr
@nunosantos4217 5 жыл бұрын
and we're lucky if he didn't drop the plastic tub
@michelvanbriemen3459 5 жыл бұрын
Well what could possibly happen to it, can it be broken?
@worldofconcept6388 5 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie it made me cry oh and I got some pie but it wasn't mine so just leave me alone to die.
@lostremnant1140 5 жыл бұрын
16:12 *stares at 50k worth of camera made into scraps* "Ok, I'm feeling good." - Linus Sebastian 2019
@BRNKoINSANITY 5 жыл бұрын
Those grooves are not to guide the fluid, they increase the surface area in order to aid heat transfer. There is a noticeable difference between a smooth block and a finned block as you increase the load and radiator size.
@BRNKoINSANITY 5 жыл бұрын
Also, if you fit an o-ring too tightly, it can't compress correctly for a good fit. You have to leave room in the groove for it to expand. The best result is when the depth and width of the groove perfectly fit the squished o-ring at a spec'd pressure as the parts come into contact.
@Lilgoth89 5 жыл бұрын
Fancy seeing a wild Brnk here
@1gt4dude 5 жыл бұрын
This.
@tmarritt 5 жыл бұрын
And you could litterially do it with a chisel and a hammer and a little time. The bottom also needs to be properly lapped, and that's seriously time consuming if you do it by hand.
@1gt4dude 5 жыл бұрын
Same principal as having a car radiator media blasted, doesn't need to be fins it can also be rough like a sandpaper finish
@SpareSomeChange8080 5 жыл бұрын
I love watching these; it reminds me of old Top Gear when they did their "ambitious but rubbish" challenges.
@MidnightMarrow 5 жыл бұрын
Lubrication whilst machining is a thing. Copper shouldn't be all that difficult honestly. Annealing copper might make it easier to cut with the CNC bits as well. But in general most metal workers will indeed put a drop every so often while drilling and machining.
@Worrsaint 5 жыл бұрын
Copper is not difficult. Something like copper would absolutely benefit from oil. Annealing it actually makes it more difficult to machine due to it already being soft and gummy.
@liamjenkins1680 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know how many times I've seen "Why would we drain the loop" immediately followed by a spill on LTT!
@BOOMHeadshot1006 5 жыл бұрын
So a few pointers for working in acrylic and making water blocks. 1. When you machine acrylic or poly, the surface will get "frosty" you can put the part through a process called "Flame polishing" that will give the part a mirror smooth finish. 2. When tapping with a bit like that, it's suggested that you try to get it as level as you can. To make it super easy you can take a drill press and insert the bit into the chuck and then spin the chuck by hand to tap the acrylic. 3. With an o ring like that you want about 1-2mm of the o-ring above the top of the c channel you cut. You may want to base this off your o-ring material though. Hope these help!
@besserwisser4055 5 жыл бұрын
hope they read it
@jtb6075 5 жыл бұрын
I thought you couldn't flame polish polycarbonate?
@faceplants2 5 жыл бұрын
So don't use vice grips with your taps? Darn, I've been doing it wrong all this time!
@devilmastah 5 жыл бұрын
Should just use a starter tap first
@ErulianADRaghath 5 жыл бұрын
@@jtb6075 Acrylic is not the same material as polycarbonate.
@lhl2500 5 жыл бұрын
13:15 As an aircraft mechanic I can assure you that air transport is a hell of a lot safer than car transport. The level of planned maintenance on aircraft is probably only exceeded by rocket maintenance. In the aero transport business no-one is gonna ignore an check-engine-light for any amount of time, the groove depth of the tires are checked on a per flight basis. Same goes for oil level. On a side note, watching you guys using tools like thread-taps and such, gives me a nervous twitch. I just wanna slap those tools out your hands. For me watching these videos, is like others that like to watch horror movies, or go into haunted houses. Very uncomfortable, but afterwards I can just laugh at it. :)
@MatthewDannevik 5 жыл бұрын
there was a huge scandel recently where airplane techs was told to ignore stuff t hat wasnt on there list
@lhl2500 5 жыл бұрын
@omgwtf696969 Without further details your comparison is meaningless. What type of parts are you referring to? Quality control for different parts has different tests depending on material, operational conditions (temperature, pressure, environmental hazards etc.) So unless you are talking about manufacturing the EXACT same part, for two different industries, the comparison has no influence on my post.
@TheWinning247 5 жыл бұрын
Some mild difference between maintainance and design when it comes to aircraft, they are designed with very narrow safety margins because excess weight is an aircraft's achilles' heel, the difference between that and a car is that an aircraft is designed to "soft fail" so any failure that does occur is rarely critical and those components are designed to fail after a certain amount of time so that a technician can specifically look at them periodically to maintain the aircraft. Road vehicles on the other hand, are less designed for that mode of failure, as excess weight isn't a crippling factor in the function of the vehicle, instead they are designed to withstand certain stresses and not fail or show signs of failure; meaning that they are more likely to break in a pseudo-random fasion. I can almost guarantee that aeronautical parts are of higher quality than automotive parts, simply because the materials and tolerances are far more strict than in a road vehicle and the processes that produce them are controlled far better too. Quite simply; if a car fails, you don't drop from 36000ft at 2-300mph into the ground. Aircraft, however...
@nathanhorvath6751 5 жыл бұрын
I'm an aircraft mechanic as well, and almost every time they use tools like this I start cringing so hard!
@nathanhorvath6751 5 жыл бұрын
Also the comments about aircraft safety really pissed me off. Our tolerances and maintenance procedures are way more strict than automotive.
@GiGaSzS 5 жыл бұрын
Want to know a secret to glossy acrylic. Use heat/blowtorch to lightly melt it.
@BubbleWrapPerson 5 жыл бұрын
Red is going to put out an H2Oxygen camera that’s water cooled right before you guy finish.
@DrMatt96 5 жыл бұрын
In industry we call more precise tolerances "high tolerance" which now that I think of it doesnt make total sense but yeah that's just how it is trust me I work on CAD every day. I think the reason it's like that is because the "high" in "high tolerance" is not referring to the amount of range that is accepted as a dimension, but is saying the tolerance has a high standard. Like it's an important tolerance.
@Sketch1994 5 жыл бұрын
Precision and tolerance are very often wrongfully interchanged by laymen around the globe...it gets worse when you add clearance and interference in the mix and waaaay worse when you add roughness, form deviation, true position etc etc...I really believe that using the right words in the right order is really important in this industry (my humble engineer/machinist opinion) to communicate the right result. I've seen engineers who couldn't grasp the concept of a high precision (low tolerance) clearance fit such these found in air bearings...
@DrMatt96 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sketch1994 yeah definitely, took me a while to learn a lot of the terminology and concepts. But I'm no engineer, im a hydraulics technician that sometimes has to draw up parts to be made so your opinion is definitely more valid than mine
@QuintonTetik 5 жыл бұрын
if tolerance = "an allowable amount of variation", then high tolerance = high amount of variation, and low tolerance = low amount of variation. I think you'd want a low amount of variation on a highly precise part.
@tippyc2 5 жыл бұрын
I've generally heard it as "tight tolerance", not "high tolerance"
@VredesbyrdNoir 5 жыл бұрын
@@tippyc2 yes, or I say "fine tolerances".
@matthewwood3394 5 жыл бұрын
Need to use silicon lubricant mate, patrolium eats o-rings over time. Red Dead Redemption alright Alex.
@KinSlay1337 5 жыл бұрын
that cant be true seeing as the military uses Vaseline for aircraft's o-rings
@chaos1267 5 жыл бұрын
They probably used a viton oring by the looks of it which vaseline wouldnt hurt.
@matthewwood3394 5 жыл бұрын
@@KinSlay1337 not sure about that one mate, not an expert in military engineering you might be right.
@matthewwood3394 5 жыл бұрын
@@chaos1267 good call mate.
@i_dodge_trees 4 жыл бұрын
It's probably buna-n, it'll be fine.
@finsarg 5 жыл бұрын
My favourite vids are definitely the ones where you build stuff. Especially that you keep it real with viewer accessible tools (unlike the hardware). Makes me want a workshop.
@OrangeC7 5 жыл бұрын
As a non-machinist, seeing all of these machinists trying to help Linus and his team to more properly utilize the tools they are using for their projects is great... But let's be honest, it wouldn't be as entertaining if they actually knew what they were doing.
@matheuswohl 5 жыл бұрын
also wouldn't be any less entertaining, take This Old Tony as an example for someone who knows what he's doing and also has high production value
@marcun666 5 жыл бұрын
Knowing what to do and knowing how to do it properly are two different things.
@CathyInBlue 5 жыл бұрын
"If we knew what we were doing, we wouldn't call it research."
@Worrsaint 5 жыл бұрын
True, but whenever they try to touch a tool or talk about how to do something an engineer or machinist somewhere dies somewhere due to the shear force of the face palm required.
@CathyInBlue 5 жыл бұрын
@@Worrsaint orig00.deviantart.net/401a/f/2010/362/b/b/x_facepalm_motivational_by_ajtnz-d35wiy3.jpg
@evaristegalois6282 5 жыл бұрын
_Long ago, the four Blocks lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Fire Block attacked_
@Bot_Brad 5 жыл бұрын
Evariste Galois. Jake is the Avatar
@andyt144 5 жыл бұрын
Lame comment again
@dubbarrelyt4428 5 жыл бұрын
Is this supposed to be a meme that I can't get?
@dubbarrelyt4428 5 жыл бұрын
@LunaXBL ok thanks for telling that. But still I feel the comment is nowhere related to the video (just my opinion)
@troublecaine1728 5 жыл бұрын
?????
@Bockis 5 жыл бұрын
I just love how you guys thread holes, just...awesome.
@runningpayne 5 жыл бұрын
We need more of this kind of video! This was really interesting
@mikes2381 5 жыл бұрын
Guys. Machining copper, aluminum, brass, etc is all Very easy. How fast are you running your spindle? O ring grooves need +/- several thou for a good seal. You're not sealing N2 or He2 at 2000 psi. They're not necessarily all that sensitive to tolerance. One could probably use an engraving bit for the small channels on over the CPU. Man Linus. That tap is way crooked. Probably use a larger bit and a slower speed.
@mikes2381 5 жыл бұрын
Using CA glue on o-rings Is actually a good way to make orings. Mine seal a vacuum chamber very freaking well and a buddy worked at a place that made them seal in 10k psi hydraulic forming machines.
@mikes2381 5 жыл бұрын
Safety factor under 10%... *Cringe 1. That's not a factor. That's a percentage. 2. Plane S.F. are usually around 1.4 and up. That's commercial aircraft. So under the most demanding possibility hundreds of experienced engineers and over 100 years of flight can come up with; they multiply that stress by 1.4 and build to that. Then test... Extensively. Then hopefully your airline company maintains their planes. Most of them do a good job at that.
@unlisted9494 5 жыл бұрын
Linus thinks the fins on a cpu water block are to help water flow the right direction, these guys are a lost cause man.
@vilkku792 5 жыл бұрын
@@unlisted9494 Why would he think that. Did he say it somewhere because I didn't really pay attention.
@m.sierra5258 5 жыл бұрын
@@vilkku792 3:16 I was also shocked when he said that
@OTechnology 5 жыл бұрын
Yes just put a disassembled expensive camera parts into a bin. Totally safe.
@Stichz- 5 жыл бұрын
I internally cringe and get uneasy whenever I see expensive hardware being treated the way these guys do sometimes. But then again to me you must treat every single piece like glass 😂
@munjee2 5 жыл бұрын
"put a disassembled expensive camera" or camera parts pick one
@ryanfonseca3270 5 жыл бұрын
For me at a minimal Get a flat rubbermaid container, put all parts into bags, any bolts into smalelr bags and put those inside the parts bag. and lay them all out inside the container. thats a minimal... But that said, im sure there stuff is fineand will be fine, but shit happens and most of us cant stomach a loss like that.
@jameshogge 5 жыл бұрын
If you want nice shiny looking acrylic: First smooth it with a high grit sandpaper Then hit it briefly with a heat gun and that will just melt the surface so its perfectly smooth and clear
@huyhoangnguyen3100 5 жыл бұрын
Me: TONY STARK WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS! Linus: Ok, hold my beer...!
@ProjectWolfDragon 5 жыл бұрын
For machining copper, quality cutters and proper speeds and feeds help (look in the machinery's handbook) BUT the best thing you can do to help yourself out is material selection. Specifically, the general purpose Copper 110 alloy is terrible for machining, it is sticky, chewy, and overall unpleasant, whereas Copper 145 aka Tellurium Copper is the easiest alloy to machine and yields significantly better results. Other routes you can take is to use a free machining brass such as Brass 360, Aluminum 2011, and Aluminum 6020 as they are also excellent for machining but are also of significantly lower thermal conductivity than copper, so you would be forced to do very fancy details to get the surface area up to match a relatively simple pattern or even flat plate of copper.
@b0ngitnator387 5 жыл бұрын
I dunno what it means but Linus you better follow the tips.
@markp8295 5 жыл бұрын
Very good points. I also think a spindle speed reducer is needed to allow them to cut copper more cleanly. It looks like their turret is a cheaper high RPM only one for cutting wood and plastic.
@another1commenter770 5 жыл бұрын
Copper and aluminum.... Spray with wd40 or crc while cutting.....Make sure your taking deep cuts that throw chips/swarf even if the tool is very small it must cut enough to produce a decent swarf amount otherwise the tip will get to hot, the material will go buttery and bind to the tool. Don't try low feed rates unless you have very low spindle speeds. If a 1mm tool was to be used id start at 70,000 rpm at 700mm/min (100mm per 10000rpm @ 1mm tool diameter) for copper with occasional sprays of wd40 and constant air cooling. At 1mm tool tips the high speed can make the tool more rigid to deflection, just like how a dremil running at 30,000 rpm will steady a .5mm drill bit better then running at 500rpm. You can also get coatings for tools to reduce brazing of copper to tool like Chromium Nitride.
@Cheesyxable 5 жыл бұрын
they really need cooling and lubrication if they want something decent out of that copper with that machine, it might not be enough, but the result would improve for sure, and yeah coated tools as mentioned above
@galaeron554 5 жыл бұрын
Wd40 for aluminum and copper is a must. Lubricant is needed. Watching this from a machining career stand point it was cringy lol
@GeorgTheGr8 5 жыл бұрын
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@mini-_ 5 жыл бұрын
But everything changed, when the fire blocks attacke.. Wait, wrong meme.
@aidenbouc3314 5 жыл бұрын
Building our own CPU water block Building our own CPU earth block Building our own CPU fire block Building our own CPU air block
@aidenbouc3314 5 жыл бұрын
@@mini-_ damn someone got to that joke before me
@bettertelevision968 5 жыл бұрын
@@suborgtfo.4433 😊
@MaiMai-wp5vw 5 жыл бұрын
And then all the elements came together. Elemental CPU block
@Channel-kv6ob 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a cnc machinist and solid modeler. I've worked with waterproofing components for various electronics projects in the past. I second recommend the Parker O-ring handbook for o-ring use and groove designs. You shouldn't have had problems with the copper though so I'm not sure what you're doing there. If you're doing fins tiny pcb mills and drills generally work well. I also recommend asking scuba shops what they recommend for o-ring use, I recall using some super fancy grease that worked amazingly well.
@playerguy2 5 жыл бұрын
8:36 I LOVE how Linus reacts to this. It's surprising what one is supposed to do in some circumstances. O-rings are a science all to them selves.
@techbaiter 5 жыл бұрын
Linus building a CPU Water Block without RGB. _Wonders do happen sometimes_
@Rainbow__cookie 5 жыл бұрын
Don't need rgb in a red camera only red leds 🤣
@dubbarrelyt4428 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rainbow__cookie rgb water blocks costs around $80
@ERROR_-_404 5 жыл бұрын
_its just a prototype_
@thewiirocks 5 жыл бұрын
This is like watching a train wreck in progress. You just can't look away no matter how horrified you are by what you're seeing...
@weejeeman4637 5 жыл бұрын
It was so bad!!
@stuartanderws5705 5 жыл бұрын
They did machine copper and that's not easy.
@f36443 5 жыл бұрын
For a first try it's actually pretty stellar, and that's comming from a guy who's been making his own blocks for over 20 years
@thewiirocks 5 жыл бұрын
This is more like their 20th try. They used to have a series on making custom heat sinks before Linus got tired of spending money and getting beat out by cheap Chinese coolers. It was very, very horrifying to watch. (Seriously, look it up.) Also, this would be a good effort on its own. The real WTF is that they disassembled a Red camera and are using this as a dry run to try water cooling it. Just so horrifying...
@KerbalRocketry 5 жыл бұрын
top tip for tapping; mount the tap into a pillar drill to keep the tap straight only ever hand turn the bit when tapping though!, this is very important for acrylic where you can get fractures if you're not straight enough
@TheFinalRevelation1 5 жыл бұрын
O rings are sealed by heating both ends over a candle or torch. A joint made with an adhesive will not last.
@CamAteUrKFC 3 жыл бұрын
Good lord no. If I ever spliced o-rings with a torch at work instead of just some standard LT404 I'd have both a failure and reprimand waiting for me.
@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure just vaseline and just enough squeeze would work far better far more consistently, than presenting a rubber compound with it's main mortal enemy, fire. Ofc there are compounds that can eat rubber, but you aren't probably going to have it, machine tools, the need and not know that at the same time.
@guywithatippmann 2 жыл бұрын
where have you ever seen this successfully preformed? I'd love to see that happen.
@SianaGearz 11 ай бұрын
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 Yeah this is a connection technique applicable to TPE only, and i have not seen it done for sealing purposes, but for power belts. Indeed even small misalignment between the ends sounds like a terrible idea. If you have the ends plain loose or connected with some weak glue purely for placement purposes, it would just find its own alignment and may be most likely to seal perfectly fine among available techniques. Obviously CA glue is not your friend here, but if it works, it works 🤷
@todayonthebench 5 жыл бұрын
Machining the acrylic flat, when acrylic easily is flat enough for the application. Using a clamp as a tap wrench, thereby putting a strange sideways torque on it, risking it getting oval-ish threads. (yes, this is a thing.) Gluing together an O-ring and being nearly 50% off. (this is a potential leak source, though a water cooling loop might not have enough pressure to make this a big issue.) Well, I have seen many horrors the last 20 minutes apparently.... Though, at least they greased up the O-ring, something that even larger operations don't do for far more expensive products.
@robertvandeneijk1284 5 жыл бұрын
I've machined acrylic more than a few times. Thickness can sometimes vary 2-3 mm over a meter length on a '8mm' thick sheet. I would have machined it too when the part is already on the CNC table. The glued o-ring is terrible. It may not leak immediate. But the pressure combined with deteriorating rubber will cause the bond to break eventually. Also, they should have tapped with a drill-press as bit holder. Then you're always straight.
@GoldyMcGoldface 5 жыл бұрын
The funny part is that the one compliment you gave them is still wrong, petroleum on o-rings is worse than not lubricating since it cause them to deteriorate.
@todayonthebench 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoldyMcGoldface If rubber/silicone O-rings deteriorated when in contact with petroleum/hydrocarbons, then all hydraulics equipment would start leaking fairly quickly after manufacturing. The main reason equipment starts leaking is due to physical wear and abrasion. Though yes, there are O-rings made of plastics. (and most plastics dissolve in oils/grease. (And it is from here the large misnomer about o-rings deteriorating in oils comes from.))
@GoldyMcGoldface 5 жыл бұрын
@@todayonthebench I'll concede that their o-rings may be made of a polymer that is safe for use with petroleum based products, however rubber is 100% not compatible with them.
@ydna 5 жыл бұрын
Your CNC router has plenty of spindle speed available to cut the copper, but the lack of coolant might be a large cause for issues. Even if you stand there and blow on it with compressed air, it would be better than nothing...but if you hook up a mist coolant system then it'd be even better. Even spritzing it by hand might work, but it'll make a mess. Mist coolant will also make a mess of course (in the direction the nozzle is pointing) but you do what you gotta do!
@kolby4078 5 жыл бұрын
you can cut anything dry with the right tool
@PongoXBongo 5 жыл бұрын
Kind of like occasionally dripping some oil on the piece on a drill press?
@MrXtacle 5 жыл бұрын
@@kolby4078 Eeeeeh, yeah. But with copper, alu, and brass, you really want some lubrication because it tends to stick to itself/tool if run dry.
@dreggory82 5 жыл бұрын
I have had excellent success using olive oil as cutting oil for copper. It just makes a terrible mess, but it works great.
@louisvaught2495 5 жыл бұрын
FYI, since I know you guys have a drill press: If you want to tap threads straight, mount the tap in the drill press to get it started. On the milling side of things, cutting fluid is very useful when you're milling metal.
@garforce2 5 жыл бұрын
a few pointers on acrylic, you can use a flame and polish it by just glancing the flame across surface
@EricSmith-dx1ll 5 жыл бұрын
FAA requires a 1.5 safety factor on airplanes and a 3.0 safety factor on the landing gear.
@catchampjade 5 жыл бұрын
I was looking for someone complaining about him understating how god damn strict the FAA is on safety
@OmiP42 5 жыл бұрын
Also flying is literally the safest form of transportation there is, including walking
@EricSmith-dx1ll 5 жыл бұрын
@@faheemzia5509 the companies that design the planes try to keep the safety factor as close to the minimum as possible. More safety = more material = more weight = more fuel = higher operation costs!
@lucywucyyy 5 жыл бұрын
@@OmiP42 yeah i feel relaxed getting onto planes, its trains that scare me
@lucywucyyy 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricSmith-dx1ll and that minimum is still very high
@JustinY. 5 жыл бұрын
But can you make it vodka cooled?
@TheCatpirate 5 жыл бұрын
Life Of Boris
@mintcoffee500 5 жыл бұрын
wow
@ntrain90 5 жыл бұрын
Life Of Boris has you covered
@samuelsfilms 5 жыл бұрын
Why are you everywhere
@RRProducties 5 жыл бұрын
A early justin Comment without 1k likes im blessed
@danrbarlow 5 жыл бұрын
Get a hazardous fraught slitting saw to cut grooves in the water side of the copper to increase surface area. Lap the bottom using a progressive series of sandpapers. It took so long last time because you started with too fine a grit.
@firestorm734 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, anyone who has worked in an environment where prototyping/fabrication work is done will watch this video and die a little bit. Couple of thoughts to help with future iterations: -When tapping threaded features, it is really helpful to have a surface that is known to be level, and an axis that you know is "close" to perpendicular to it. If you put a punch or center in the chuck of a drill press, and use that to hold the end of the tap, you can ensure that the tap stays straight, and it will make it faster to do multiple holes. Also, cutting fluid is a godsend. -Well done with your use of the gasket fitment guide. As a recommendation, you could leak test your prototypes with compressed air at low pressure (50 kPag / 7.5 psig), and measure the leakdown time. Then if you detect a leak, you can locate where it is coming from with a little soapy water. The big flick here is that you are able to leak check you parts in a way the doesn't risk your expensive computer components that can't get wet. -if you do a bit of research on the fin design of your heat exchanger, you may get substantially better thermal performance.
@C2H5OHist 5 жыл бұрын
I made my own blocks back when there were little to no commercial products. Gave up on copper and used alu only for ease of machining. I had manual machines only, the o-ring groove was turned on a lathe. You can increase area by aligning the block vertically and using a slitting cutter to make the grooves, it will make a huge difference.
@bBrain 5 жыл бұрын
You could setup a jig and cut micro fins with a small dremel. Nothing to it and would make your home brew water blocks work a _LOT_ better.
@jtb6075 5 жыл бұрын
You'd think they would, but Alex got a 20k CNC and doesn't know how to practically use it.
@unlisted9494 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that. Linus thinks they're there to help flow water. He doesn't understand at a fundamental level what a heatsink is or how it works.
@bBrain 5 жыл бұрын
@@unlisted9494 Naw I've seen him actually talk about their purpose, he knows they are to help remove heat, I think the edits sometimes cut out stuff. They do direct the flow of water, however, but yea their main purpose is to give more surface area to remove heat and I know I've heard him talk about that.
@bBrain 5 жыл бұрын
@@jtb6075 I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think that CNC can do microfins... maybe it can, but yea you can tell he's totally noob with the cnc. I mean I wouldn't be much better at it either. lol
@jtb6075 5 жыл бұрын
@@bBrain I know that machine probably couldn't do microfins but not I was getting at. I was saying he doesn't use it as a true machinist / fabricator. He should know that he can use the machine to make tools like a dremel jig that can make microfins. The whole CNC operation on lmg is a complete waste of money as Alex is way out of his place. These new engineers want machines to do everything or else they can't do it.
@mattkassees1 5 жыл бұрын
Try using pcb etching to make the fins instead of milling copper. Also use a metal lapping technique to smooth the CPU side. The o-ring was done well but low temp automotive RTV gasket maker may be what you are wanting for complicated shapes.
@shadowblade9461 5 жыл бұрын
you guys can try tapping on the drill press, get everything lined up put the tap in the chuck bring it close and turn off the drill press as the spindle is slowing down bring the tap down. its a pretty easy to get your threads square that way and the rest you can do by hand since the hardest part is starting it
@shadowblade9461 5 жыл бұрын
also put a counter sink where you want to start the tap so you can screw it easier
@MrZombie999 5 жыл бұрын
Linus talks about greasing his O-Ring while being an expert on petroleum Jelly :D
@TheManicGeek 5 жыл бұрын
PITTER-PATTER, LET'S GET AT 'ER! -Linus Sebastian, 2K19
@AFarChant 5 жыл бұрын
Dat Letterkenny reference! Such a great show!
@alexmawdsley 5 жыл бұрын
@@AFarChant it's a really great show
@CanadaBud23 5 жыл бұрын
Lol used to say that all the time in grade school.
@AFarChant 5 жыл бұрын
@@CanadaBud23 I mean, the show is based on people in rural Ontario so it makes sense. Are you from those parts?
@CanadaBud23 5 жыл бұрын
@@AFarChant Yeah, everybody used to say it lol.
@ZoeyR86 5 жыл бұрын
use a 60deg single stright flute scribe for engraving and just do lots of fine lines, and a single flute 1/32nd bit both bits have zero helix so use a small drill bit and drill lots of holes to remove a lot of the copper...
@thefunkilledu 5 жыл бұрын
Next time you tap threads, slightly countersink the end you intend to insert the male hardware into. A large drill bit works fine for this, just twist it a few times by hand to smooth out the leading edge and it's far easier to install. Also, you should run the tap all the way through the other side until you are past the tapered tip of the tap. Unless you're using pipe thread, those are tapered type threads.
@bjorksven 5 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: it's easier to properly mate the O-ring ends if they are cut at an angle. Also, you can use teflon tape to seal the threads.
@LeGranDuc 5 жыл бұрын
Ugh... As a machinist i weep. For simpler threading put the part in the drill press. That way you can center the tap, and get it perfectly straight.
@XXFingerTornXX 5 жыл бұрын
Stian or even better yet just get a tapping block lol that’s the cheapest and easiest way to get a straight tapped hole.
@512TheWolf512 5 жыл бұрын
Do they even have that? As far as I know they only have the CNC machine
@LeGranDuc 5 жыл бұрын
@@512TheWolf512 I have seen one in multiple previous videos.
@doktorjonsson3860 5 жыл бұрын
Or even fancier: threadmilling
@TommyAngelo1337 5 жыл бұрын
They definitely have the machine for it. I think that whole part is just for extending the video.
@zader999 5 жыл бұрын
You could add some fins like a conventional heatsink on smaller chips increasing surface area and rigidity so that when you mount the top portion the pressure wont bend or misshape the contact patch
@nothanks9205 5 жыл бұрын
just drilling a bunch of tiny pits in the waterblock surface just under the inlet and making the block more restrictive will greatly improve the performance. Pumps create flow resistance creates pressure and pressure is what cools.
@jared3115 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know if I should laugh or cry when I saw that camera
@milagrosjereza9354 5 жыл бұрын
Cry. Seriously, cry.
@nolla7 5 жыл бұрын
it was like C-3PO after stepping that cloud town.
@KaletheQuick 5 жыл бұрын
5 years from now Linus will be trying to make his own microchips with a hacked laser engraver inside a DIY CVD machine. Stay tuned.
@nickopedia5669 5 жыл бұрын
honestly that would be pretty sick to try and make a transistor.
@patrickobaldo883 5 жыл бұрын
You can make the fins by using a Dremel tool with a very thin disc. You can try making the said disc with soda cans. Hope to see this solution done by them.
@lorenhusky2717 5 жыл бұрын
We like these kinds of videos! Custom making stuff is awesome, even if it's kinda jenky. YOU made it! That's cool.
@fortheloveofcake93 5 жыл бұрын
why leak test on a bench? whhyyyyy?? You don't need expert machining knowledge just common sense!
@ameralhamvi5680 5 жыл бұрын
There is a right way, and there is an LTT way. This is the LTT way Welcome to LMG!!
@emmett050 5 жыл бұрын
Because if they leak tested elsewhere then they wouldn't have the thermal tests until after. And LMG is too focused on pumping out content daily than making quality content so they save an hour or so by doing both at the same time.
@Lazi3b0y 5 жыл бұрын
@@emmett050 Or, they thought that it might be amusing for the viewer if the water block leaked onto the test bench. Why are you even here if you don't think it's "quality content" ?
@BenCos2018 5 жыл бұрын
@@ameralhamvi5680 there's the right way,the ltt way and the wrong way guess which way is worst The LMG way😂😂😂😂😂
@Finkelfunk 5 жыл бұрын
What's the point here? It's distilled water not acid. If it leaks they immediately shut the system off, dry it properly and it should work just fine. You also leak-test regular water cooling on your system, you just take more precautions because you can't buy a new system every day.
@alessiosuppo561 5 жыл бұрын
Try to use an engraving bit to make a "grid" where the water makes contact with the copper, increasing the surface area. it's not going to be as effective as the fins, but it's better than nothing
@arashk1849 5 жыл бұрын
As an engineering student looking for experience before employment i am fully jealous on Alex and the experiences he gets to have because of the opportunities Linus gives him. A beginner engineer couldn’t ask for more. Chilled none pressured environment full of try and error situations
@Revoku 3 жыл бұрын
hes correct on the orings, the gap is required so you have space for the oring to spread out when pressed together, if you don't have the gap you either pinch/split the oring and it leaks, or you warp the surfaces you are trying to seal.
@_Matyro_ 5 жыл бұрын
Use a rotary tool saw blade for fine fins. You can even mount the copper vertical in your cnc and machine it there with the saw blades.
@jtb6075 5 жыл бұрын
They should make a dremel jig to cut the fins, itd be much better
@maximthemagnificent 5 жыл бұрын
As an engineer, I have always presumed you haven't hired someone more knowledgeable to deliberately add entertainment value. BTW, good idea to test for leaks BEFORE mounting it on the expensive hardware.
@samus4799 4 жыл бұрын
The fins on the block could probably be stamped in place. You could probably use the one that has them already as a die, since it's made of a harder material. Just hydraulic press it into your panel. If I were to set this up for low volume production, I'd put straight knurling into some hardened steel, just a round of it. Then set up a tool to make it happen.
@jonathanwaltersmediacenter1916 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome Vid , Love watching these experiments :)
@luqmanr 5 жыл бұрын
LTT will venture into manufacturing PC hardware by 2020
@ThePointblank 5 жыл бұрын
They've already partnered with Noctua for a LTT branded fan before...
@aidentetreault90 5 жыл бұрын
Its cool. I own shares
@dinobot28 5 жыл бұрын
LTT cooling blocks will probably have a graphene pad just stuck to them somehow so it skips an entire messy step.
@Nj1498 5 жыл бұрын
But the Soulja PC. It's been it since 1879!
@Master_Therion 5 жыл бұрын
Of all the cooling solutions for PCs, I get the most excited about water cooling. It makes me wet.
@Master_Therion 5 жыл бұрын
But when it comes to air cooling, I'm not a big fan...
@philippkorn7618 5 жыл бұрын
@@Master_Therion get out
@its_fprime 5 жыл бұрын
@@Master_Therion nope
@ncsloficentral 5 жыл бұрын
thats realy COOL
@collinblack9605 5 жыл бұрын
Does it give you panty pudding?
@MrMango222au 5 жыл бұрын
when starting a TAP a bit over a quarter turn then reverse and clean threads go forward another quarter turn rinse and repeat
@joejane9977 5 жыл бұрын
if you are tapping holes its best to use a block with a hole in it that is just a few thousandth of a inch larger then the OD of the threads thats say .75 inch tall and place block with hole in it on work piece and drop tap thru so you start threading at a Right angle.
@privatefactory1173 5 жыл бұрын
WTF???!!!! Testing for leaks on the bench? WHY????
@MitzaelSerna 5 жыл бұрын
because reasons, this is LTT way..
@williamfritsch3310 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's really stoopid. Also not draining the loop is fine i guess, but why wouldn't they at least use clamps on the tubes ??? Seriously, every god damn time ! I used to do a lot of maintenance on my old over-powered custom loop, and almost never did a full drain, but at least i would use clamps and funnels and bins just to make sure i don't spill liquid everywhere hahaha
@CokeJAY 5 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, i was thinking what are they gonna do to pressure test it... But of course they just put it on a test bench.... Worth more than my desktop rig and laptop combined.................
@AyaxRo 5 жыл бұрын
Because CONTENT... and any antics and hilarity that will ensue is all in the name of views... no matter the disaster.
@funkymonkeyjedi9078 5 жыл бұрын
'cause LTT is about "worse case scenarios", is this the first time you watch this channel? lol
@snoboardkid11 5 жыл бұрын
I better not be the only one who appreciates the Letterkenny quote at 5:40
@davidfarmer 5 жыл бұрын
@linustechtips the grooves are most likely milled with a keyway cutter while hold the block sideways.
@JasonPetrilla 5 жыл бұрын
You guys should do build logs, with a narrated discussion of the process, and more shots of the CAD design and the tools running.... and then do a leak test on a live system, for the true LTT feel.
@notsocasual4089 5 жыл бұрын
Yessss please more DIY videos
@Vesssko95 5 жыл бұрын
Linus is pretty succesfull perso7n,while he did what he loves,he also feed the people who work for him.
@Kc6spd 4 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing, I made my own water block at school as a machine shop project. We did not have the tools to make micro fins or anything. In the end it worked, just not very well. Most viewed vid I’ve ever had. Was a super fun project too.
@Kathdath 5 жыл бұрын
I love Alex in video. He does need Linus to act as heel, but I love that Alex is just given a project and then just allowed to tinker away until he has it ready.
@greasyginzo 5 жыл бұрын
When cutting threads you go in 1 full turn back out half - 1 turn in back out half. When chasing threads you just go all the way no backing up.
@joejane9977 5 жыл бұрын
someone has been around a tap before i see and had great instruction.
@TeknoMage13 5 жыл бұрын
As a machinist who has machined parts from titanium, inconel, beryllium-copper, stellite, stainless steel, and other materials for aircraft, I find watching you guys fumble your way through pretty amusing.
@DavidGarcia-oi5nt 2 жыл бұрын
Inconel! Fancy stuff
@karlwooduk 5 жыл бұрын
machine the copper very slowly, drill in small increments because drill bits and tooling tends to bite into copper so make sure the part is held very well and use drill stop and take your time, also use the right cutting fluid but if done slowly should be fine.
@pballer2005 5 жыл бұрын
run the face of the heat plate along a belt sander with everything all bolted together to smooth out any potential bowing from torquing down the acrylic plate. would using a rough grit to increase surface area improve things at all?
@himmelsrand7527 5 жыл бұрын
New Series „Sketchy Waterblocks“? 😁
@SamuraiGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Linus:*takes apart expensive camera* "you know, baby steps!"
@AmbientSpectrum 5 жыл бұрын
You can clear up the acrylic with gentle flame polishing!
@gamerofftopic5774 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder when they are going to close the job openings and stuff. I have trying to keep updated on the whole thing.
@run-cnc 5 жыл бұрын
If you ever need a CNC machinist to make a proper one... I'm in Victoria. ;)
@Mp57navy 5 жыл бұрын
Only issue there is... a machine shop costs at least 100 bucks an hour.
@explosives101 5 жыл бұрын
He has a neighbor with a CNC.
@jtb6075 5 жыл бұрын
@@explosives101 its a budget CNC. Not the best. The machine that does it, matters, as well as the end mills.
@TheStevedie 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mp57navy my buddy has one, he would do it for maybe that much total, or shits and giggles.
@wobblysauce 5 жыл бұрын
Bigger it is the less it moves.
@NoOne-sb7wy 5 жыл бұрын
Lots and lots of cringing for any machinists watching this
@agbwow 5 жыл бұрын
This had me yelling at my monitor
@johnkaminski4145 5 жыл бұрын
Any time the try to make anything it hurts my brain especially in machining.
@FaithfulFrets 5 жыл бұрын
How dare they try something they are bad at!
@seanbusby7568 5 жыл бұрын
Sean Krewson same for any mechanical engineer
@JonessJack 5 жыл бұрын
They should look for a proper machine shop that could manufacture their copper base... The cnc router they use is crap
@alleriodrone 5 жыл бұрын
Yay! Parker o-ring division! (I actually use that book regularly at my work.
@noahbrooks3319 5 жыл бұрын
I 'm loving the new "Linus's cool staff guiding him through one of their projects on camera" format.
@piratewhoisquiet 5 жыл бұрын
Cold cutting threads into metal Bringing over cutting oil Linus: "You probably won't need that" two minutes later he realises his mistake
@TheHammerGuy94 5 жыл бұрын
So this is sketchy heatsinks 4 then? Water cooling edition?
@DoRC 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could do some sort of chemical etching to the copper and end up with a huge amount of surface area.
@bensmeding 5 жыл бұрын
Use a 2 or 3 flute cutter and make sure it’s center cutting. Use coolant or air to wash away chips. And ramp down
@lil_sisyphus 5 жыл бұрын
i was shook when he said "If you wanna come here David"
@PrismofScience 5 жыл бұрын
Excited by the presence of Alex.
@Dropbear237 5 жыл бұрын
Try polishing the acrylic with a few quick passes with a blow torch or lighter.
@exero4738 5 жыл бұрын
you should probably use a machinetap and a column drill for tapping, it's a lot easier and ofcourse cutting oil.
@nononowhyno 5 жыл бұрын
"ya know, baby steps" *starts by tearing apart $40,000 piece of tech
@GregoryVeizades 5 жыл бұрын
You should be using Silicone Grease for those O-Rings. Better than Petroleum Jelly
@lucywucyyy 5 жыл бұрын
im really glad the watercooled camera is actually going somewhere, i was convinced you guys were abandoning that idea
@victorunbea8451 4 жыл бұрын
Could've done some saltwater etching to create some grooves in the copper plate quick and relatively easy.
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