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We Cracked 14 Mint Slabs and Resubmitted to PSA! Does a 9 = a PSA 10?!?

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Nothing But Cardboard

Nothing But Cardboard

Ай бұрын

Jon cracked 14 slabs from some of the most reputable graders and resubmitted them to PSA! Let’s find out how he did!

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@internetperson9121
@internetperson9121 7 күн бұрын
Ex graders have said they spend 30 to 90 seconds per card, that includes taking out of the holder, recording grades etc. it’s hilarious that people think PSA is sitting there scrutinizing the cards. They rush through and slap grades on. Hell, they’re in such a rush they not infrequently do severe damage to a card. Not nearly as much thought goes into the grades as people think. It’s easy to find PSA 10s on eBay that have visible flaws even viewing through the slab at a distance. Like everything else in this hobby the driving factor is the GAMBLE
@michaelroot1960
@michaelroot1960 Ай бұрын
PSA is where 9’s go to get a 10 label. 😂
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@michaelroot1960 lol unless it’s a BGS first! I have had zero BGS 9s bump up and very few 9.5’s
@vine5652
@vine5652 29 күн бұрын
If you pause it at 2:50 that Tua has a ding at the bottom right corner. Thats probably why it got that 8.
@user-pp2tc9ut9u
@user-pp2tc9ut9u Ай бұрын
Moral of the video. PSA is no better than any other grading company and if you don't like the grade, just resubmit
@Snickerszn
@Snickerszn 23 күн бұрын
Moral of the story grading companies need to have pics and a database of the cards submitted and why they got the grade it did. Transparency is everything in business and PSaa is very subjective.
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 23 күн бұрын
Better- no, but the cards sell for a lot more $. What I think most people want in a grading company: Customer support Consistent grading Fair pricing Resale value Nice looking/clear slabs - and labels
@user-pp2tc9ut9u
@user-pp2tc9ut9u 23 күн бұрын
My exp with CS has all been the same. PSA doesn't stand out..I think this video showed they aren't consistent.they have the worst pricing structure and their slabs are by far the most plain. The resale value is why people go with them.. but watching the video of the PSA 10 Jordan rc, all getting 9s or lower with bgs solidified their quality. Anyone not using half points and showing subgrades to come up with their magical number requires more scrutiny.
@Snickerszn
@Snickerszn 22 күн бұрын
@@nothingbutcardboard I just want consistent grading and full transparency. I only grade with psa because of resell value. There are other companies with full transparency such as TAG grading which is a great idea.
@user-ej1gj5ue9v
@user-ej1gj5ue9v 3 күн бұрын
I think the deal with grading is you have to get the more inexperienced people to get the good grades. They might miss stuff. The veterans probably gonna be more nit-picky and can't grade them all. It's luck of the draw. Was told by PSA they have 2 independent people look at the cards and give a grade. If they match, it's done.
@alpha_sploosh
@alpha_sploosh Ай бұрын
I think if the card is numbered, they cn search what it got last time and grade it the same. I may be wrong.
@pickzkickz
@pickzkickz 23 күн бұрын
They wouldn't consider it being cleaned up?
@RobbingRips
@RobbingRips 22 күн бұрын
Ain’t nobody got time for that
@fredflintstone4364
@fredflintstone4364 Ай бұрын
Grading is a complete joke, and as long as you and everyone else keep falling for the scam, nothing will ever change. It's human error. Might as well look at card yourself !
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@fredflintstone4364 thanks for your opinion Fred
@inlandempiresignpros1558
@inlandempiresignpros1558 25 күн бұрын
​@@nothingbutcardboardeven though it's crazy wrong.. psa 10 goes for 20 to 30x what ungrades goes for in my experience.. but to each his own ✌
@Scottie4twenty
@Scottie4twenty Ай бұрын
I've never been to L.A but all the times I've played San Andreas and GTA I kinda feel like I have and would know my way around lol
@warfighter2475
@warfighter2475 13 күн бұрын
There is no science behind grading. It is literally gambling. I like grading just for the protection.
@smbmostfamous1432
@smbmostfamous1432 Ай бұрын
PSA gives 10s like crazy.. not surprised, i stopped using PSA for that reason.. there's a reason HGA gave it a 9 but PSA must've missed something.. EVERY EYE is not the same 👀
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
Agreed
@DadCaveBreaks
@DadCaveBreaks 21 күн бұрын
New sub here, love the content! Keep up the good work 💪
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 21 күн бұрын
Thank you sir!
@Matt_237
@Matt_237 26 күн бұрын
Hilarious results to be honest, and in no good way for PSA. Was buying a '95 Stadium Club Ring Leader's Griffey Member's Only last weekend at a show, and the guy has a CSG 8.5. Came home, asked a guy with a PSA 8 if he could match the price and he went on a foul-mouthed rant on why CSG was a joke, he had 30 years in the business and yap, yap. So, I just said have a nice day. Went back to the show and paid MORE for the CSG. Why? Because screw the PSA seller. 🤣
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 26 күн бұрын
I would not buy anything from a dealer like that either! Everyone has there opinions, we just need to share them in a nice way and agree to disagree- no reason to be rude or curse over it. We like CSG, they just never took off- prob 4th right now on the grading list. They do grade accurately and love their slabs, to bad there is no resale value.
@Matt_237
@Matt_237 26 күн бұрын
@nothingbutcardboard I can't tell you how many of the Green Label CSG 9.5s I bought dirt cheap, cracked and got PSA 10. BTW, excellent video.
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 26 күн бұрын
@@Matt_237 thanks! Green label 9.5’s were graded very harshly! We’ve had a ton cross over to a PSA 10. 100% agree
@Matt_237
@Matt_237 26 күн бұрын
@@nothingbutcardboard I never sub, but you're my 2nd hobby sub. Outstanding info, video, everything.
@wp8639
@wp8639 21 күн бұрын
I purchased a SGC 9 Select Wembanyama Mezzanine Blue Ice which will be cracked and then sending it in to PSA. I also plan on cracking a SGC 9.5 Bowman Chrome U Caitlin Clark Auto /99 and submitting it to PSA as well.
@TheZichys
@TheZichys 20 күн бұрын
Great video!
@MiaUncleBreaks
@MiaUncleBreaks 20 күн бұрын
Tag the only grader I would consider
@jakesorrentino7230
@jakesorrentino7230 29 күн бұрын
I never got graded up. I always got graded down
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 28 күн бұрын
@@jakesorrentino7230 sounds like you got a bit unlucky
@jakesorrentino7230
@jakesorrentino7230 27 күн бұрын
@@nothingbutcardboard Tried it with an SGC 9.5 Freddie Freedman Topps Chrome Rookie cracked resent to PSA it got an 9
@brianwatts4941
@brianwatts4941 26 күн бұрын
Pop reports are never going to amount to anything with all these people regrading.
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 26 күн бұрын
@@brianwatts4941 PSA’s is probably the most accurate with less people cracking them out, but yes, POP reports will never be 100% accurate
@MiaUncleBreaks
@MiaUncleBreaks 20 күн бұрын
Crack it and sell it raw, or in other words scam unsuspecting collectors.... Hobby Heroes!
@slimbsad
@slimbsad 18 күн бұрын
right, it's a business and these guys are being real as it gets 😂
@Carliferz
@Carliferz Ай бұрын
I got a 10 from an sgc crack out. I crack bgs 9s all day. 30 percent gem rate.
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@Carliferz that’s a way higher percentage than I get. Honestly out of over 10 I don’t think I’ve ever had a BGS 9 go to a PSA 10 and I’m 0-3 on 9.5s to PSA 10s. I need to find your slabs
@scottweisrock8535
@scottweisrock8535 20 күн бұрын
Grading is a joke!
@NgoloGen-sp4mq
@NgoloGen-sp4mq 16 күн бұрын
what is the video of gem mint john showing you how to remove fuxzies off corner with tape?
@zacharynelson7701
@zacharynelson7701 Ай бұрын
It's still part of the game, when those 10 pregrades are a miss but you get wins elsewhere, resub and they are bound to hit. Having one sub get 20% gems and the next 65%, no rhyme or reason. Just have to hope the 10's have enough juice to profit and no damage done to the rest of the cards.
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@zacharynelson7701 exactly!
@Adatikz
@Adatikz 13 күн бұрын
what do you mean with "I cleaned them"? Like really polishing or only wiping finderprints
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 13 күн бұрын
Definitely wipe the fingerprints of it has it. But I can polish to get minor scratches out too.
@JPfreedom
@JPfreedom 28 күн бұрын
So did you crack these? If so, how do they track a serial #?
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 28 күн бұрын
@@JPfreedom yes I cracked these. PSA could penalty check their pop report if it was originally graded by PSA. But if it was graded by another company they would have no idea.
@JPfreedom
@JPfreedom 28 күн бұрын
@nothingbutcardboard how can figure out if they graded it before if you sent it in cracked raw. Simply curious
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 28 күн бұрын
@JPfreedom PSA would only be able to tell if it was a numbered card. They would have to check their population report to see if they have already graded that number
@alvinbarrett741
@alvinbarrett741 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video fellas. Will any of you guys be at the National?
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@alvinbarrett741 unfortunately not this year. Maybe next year!
@user-kp6zr2qk3h
@user-kp6zr2qk3h 18 күн бұрын
@nothingbutcardboard do you have a link to the video you referred to that Gem Mint John goes over how treat the card edges? Thanks!
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 18 күн бұрын
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@austinbrown5731
@austinbrown5731 Ай бұрын
This round of crackout did not go your way this time. Thanks for sharing Not sure your comment at end of video about being overall thrilled with order coincides when the estimated return is -$14
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@austinbrown5731 this was only half of the order. The first half netted about 2k profit.
@kenrogers1948
@kenrogers1948 Ай бұрын
You guys just proved how gawd-awful HGA is...
@rex-freestylepackripps801
@rex-freestylepackripps801 Ай бұрын
Great cards,mew sub thanks for sharing!!👍😎💯
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@rex-freestylepackripps801 thanks for the comment! Hopefully we have some better grades next time
@digginginthecards
@digginginthecards Ай бұрын
Short answer is no. I've had plenty of 9s come back at a worse grade.
@inlandempiresignpros1558
@inlandempiresignpros1558 25 күн бұрын
Nice hawk tua cards bro
@hamm_bone_hobbies1302
@hamm_bone_hobbies1302 Ай бұрын
Always wanted to do this!
@TheCardHunter
@TheCardHunter Ай бұрын
Great video. I think older cards have pop limits and harder to upgrade. Stick to modern
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@TheCardHunter you could be right. Although I have had a few Ichiro cards come back a PSA 10
@MidMOGrower
@MidMOGrower 25 күн бұрын
How did you make a card better with print line in the card?
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 25 күн бұрын
Prizm/ chrome cards can be cleaned up and in some cases scratches removed. We actually have a video on how to do it if you’re interested.
@loadedhot1034
@loadedhot1034 22 күн бұрын
The Hurts purple shock looks off centered left to right.
@frostyfeetcards
@frostyfeetcards Ай бұрын
The growth just in grading assessments over the course of the year has been phenomenal gentleman! Keep going!
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@frostyfeetcards thank you sir!
@jeremyduffey6613
@jeremyduffey6613 19 күн бұрын
1)How do you make a print line less visible? I’m assuming you used wax 2)You said crack and resell so you will make that know to the potential buyers correct? I would not be a buyer of anything you sell. Deceiving people and using wax to get better results isn’t a good look.
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 19 күн бұрын
Jeremy. Yes you can use Meguiar’s or Kurt’s wax to clean cards and in some cases remove scratches. We have a video if you are curious on how to do it. Lots of people in the hobby clean their cards, they just might not be as up front about it as we are. If we do not agree with the grade a card got we will crack them and resell them raw. We have had cards that got PSA 6’s resubmitted and then got 9’s and 10’s. It is not deceptive if you note any imperfections.
@memorymobley313
@memorymobley313 Ай бұрын
Hello everyone! Show us what you got! 🤙
@NicoSportscards
@NicoSportscards Ай бұрын
They for sure look at the serial number. Best done with non #. Great vid
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
Interestingly enough I have cracked numbered cards in the past and they have come back with higher grades. However, I do think the more valuable the card, the more likely they are to check the POP report.
@hamm_bone_hobbies1302
@hamm_bone_hobbies1302 Ай бұрын
That Pujols Chrome looked too good for an 8😢
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@hamm_bone_hobbies1302 it was pretty clean, but the chrome late editions are a tough grade
@michaeldenzer6024
@michaeldenzer6024 Ай бұрын
They cant upcharge when they downgrade 17 sgc 10s 10 autos!!!!!!
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@michaeldenzer6024 did that happen to you?
@michaeldenzer6024
@michaeldenzer6024 2 күн бұрын
@nothingbutcardboard sure did! 1st order. 1 was a exquisite 2011 auto rc klay thompson that was a sgc 10 10 auto. Psa gave it a 9.
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Күн бұрын
That’s brutal!
@micahgarner6321
@micahgarner6321 23 күн бұрын
So I learned that grading cards makes no sense
@jasonfuller2734
@jasonfuller2734 23 күн бұрын
PSA is a joke.
@SylvainMarveaux9
@SylvainMarveaux9 19 күн бұрын
Awful company. Most inconsistent at grading. Steal from the customer by upcharging
@chillyssportscards2909
@chillyssportscards2909 Ай бұрын
A 9 is mint. So its a weird scale. The 9.5 in bgs/sgc are truly weird i.m.o. it's mint but it's just a 9...
@californiacookingitup5926
@californiacookingitup5926 29 күн бұрын
I’ve got a Kobe rc all star 10 I need to cross over I wish you could help me
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 29 күн бұрын
@@californiacookingitup5926 we have a few videos on how to crack slabs if you’re interested.
@drew.g.h6979
@drew.g.h6979 Ай бұрын
sorry guys but take the grade the card was given🤷 so i guess ur gonna resub the 8 again lol
@justinsiemion1452
@justinsiemion1452 Ай бұрын
How much did it cost to grade them?
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 24 күн бұрын
It was $16 per card
@ak74brass41
@ak74brass41 26 күн бұрын
After the case is opened, that card stays in the psa registry, correct? Even if you submit it elsewhere
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 25 күн бұрын
Correct, unless you were to reach out and let them know it was cracked open with proof
@brendanbabinec7144
@brendanbabinec7144 29 күн бұрын
You don’t have to crack them they do crossover
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 29 күн бұрын
@@brendanbabinec7144 yes I know, but it’s cheaper to crack them and it removes any bias from seeing another label
@JC-pu7gi
@JC-pu7gi Ай бұрын
Without watching you should get 2 10 always 20 percent that’s there limit
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@JC-pu7gi what do you mean that’s their limit?
@JC-pu7gi
@JC-pu7gi Ай бұрын
@@nothingbutcardboard In my opinion I think if you’re not in there inner circle of friends and associates. They will not give you the grade your cards deserve 5 Years ago I would get 50 -60 percent 10.s It slowly dwindled down too 20 Percent. That’s my opinion and I have the invoice to proof it. They control the Market. I don’t trust them an will not give them anymore of my business. Checkout my videos at J.C and his card collection as I crack out psa vintage cards and resubmit to SGC
@crankycardguy1369
@crankycardguy1369 Ай бұрын
More ichiro crackouts....
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@crankycardguy1369 yes sir!
@S0DAPOPINSKI1979
@S0DAPOPINSKI1979 27 күн бұрын
Pretty good tips, except one sticking point. $5 cards that go to $50 with a 10 and only $15 in 9 still can be worth it. Even at a 50% 10 rate you make money. Say you did 20 $5 cards. Your into cards for $500 cost and grading. 10 9’s = $150, 10 10’s = $500 for total of $650 and a 30% profit of $150. If you bump that up to a 70% gem rate you would make $790 at a 58% profit of $290.
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 27 күн бұрын
@@S0DAPOPINSKI1979 you definitely can. It’s just going to be a lot more work posting the cards to eBay selling say 20 cards rather than 5
@thomasshenton577
@thomasshenton577 20 күн бұрын
Flipper's are just in it for the money.... I would never switch a Beckett slab and tag for PSA😮😮😮 PSA is a rip off 😂😂 Beckett will always be a better buy then PSA. The flipper's bought into the hype. Because, they aren't true collector's 😂😂 But, too each and it's own. He lost money 🤑
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard 20 күн бұрын
@@thomasshenton577 nah, actually made 2k off the order, but it was in the first half of the order
@SylvainMarveaux9
@SylvainMarveaux9 19 күн бұрын
BGS are the best of a bad bunch. Best slabs and more accurate grading
@michaeldenzer6024
@michaeldenzer6024 Ай бұрын
Dont trust psa! At all.....
@brianjones5995
@brianjones5995 Ай бұрын
Of course Psa has been labeling serial cards always regrade non serial or regrade with a different company
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
@@brianjones5995 I have actually had multiple serial numbered cards come back with different grades PSA 9 to PSA 10. It may depend on the value of the card and how many they are numbered to. But it’s not a sure thing that you’ll receive the same grade as before.
@judiepitsos4464
@judiepitsos4464 Ай бұрын
Dump all those QBs there going nowhere.
@nothingbutcardboard
@nothingbutcardboard Ай бұрын
Not a believer huh? Who are you buying?
@chrisfree9
@chrisfree9 Ай бұрын
Facts
@digginginthecards
@digginginthecards Ай бұрын
If you got 10s from an HGA slab, I'd be very surprised. They are very soft graders.
@ericsakamoto5657
@ericsakamoto5657 Ай бұрын
HGA grades way harder than PSA. PSA gives out 10s like Halloween candy
@digginginthecards
@digginginthecards Ай бұрын
@@ericsakamoto5657 no way...Every HGA card I had graded higher than PSA. 1 to 2 grades higher. Especially bigger cards.
@MrSQRL-1
@MrSQRL-1 Ай бұрын
PSA is Trash 🗑. I hope the hobby wakes up to what TAG Grading is doing. The days of cracking slabs and resubmiting are over because of TAG Grading. PSA is an outdated relic, and their slabs look like crap.
@shortflicsplug
@shortflicsplug Ай бұрын
TAG new marketing strategy?
@MrSQRL-1
@MrSQRL-1 Ай бұрын
@@shortflicsplug I'm just spitting facts
@SylvainMarveaux9
@SylvainMarveaux9 19 күн бұрын
PSA are crap. I've never seen a Tag slab on ebay
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