I happened to come across your corvette video. I am 77 years old and have owned eight c2 corvettes through my life, not all at the same time. Back in 1966 I bought a used 1963 with a updated 327 c.i. with 340 h.p. four speed. With headers and 4:11 gears and a Duel-Coil distributer it was a strong running car that I street raced for money. Vietnam came along and I went and served over there. Came home from Vietnam and no body was street racing and the street drag racing I left was gone for good , so it seemed. Corvettes have really been a great therapy for me . I served infantry 11B MOPH and had some problems adjusting but the corvettes always gave me a loving escape. I have been certified by Bloomington Gold in c2 restoration since 1985. I was honored by Vette Vues magazine in July 1985 with a nice article on a 1965 roadster I did a frame off on. Today I have a 63 roadster complete updated restoration with a LS 1 engine and suspension. The old saying has always been, Have Class and Wrap Your A$$ in Fiberglass !
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely awesome comment! Its always great to hear stories about how these cars were raced back when they were new. Thanks for checking out my channel!
@georgeburns72513 жыл бұрын
Cool , but who cares?
@NeverTalkToCops13 жыл бұрын
@@georgeburns7251 Pete Townshend.
@johnthonig88323 жыл бұрын
I own a 65 Roadster- since 73. I am 66 and when I feel the need, I take her out, top down, Therapy solved Or go for a ride on my Harley.😃
@terryandrews72712 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service, I too had a 63 mine was a split window co-op, Lost it in a divorce. Bummer💔
@leert26983 жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel. I could swear I heard angels singing in the background, that was like Heaven seeing all of those beautiful cars. That poor man had a costly experience.
@dgiorgi20016 ай бұрын
Jr. every time I look at a Corvette I like I think of you and what you would think about the car. You know all the places to look. Probably just better to pay the extra and buy one from you that way I know it perfect. Thanks for the vid and keep up the excellent work. The job reflects the person who did it and these works of art got your signature on em.
@julianaddis1593 жыл бұрын
Watching the frame rust almost made me cry.
@NeverTalkToCops13 жыл бұрын
You'd think some designer somewhere specified Aluminum, but no.
@guntherhoffman74213 жыл бұрын
love your shop!
@truckcamper57513 жыл бұрын
Obviously that guy didn’t do his homework He got the Corvette fever had to buy it by the way I like your CT 70s there those are nice
@theraven91563 жыл бұрын
Great to know about what to look for on the frame
@kimosabbe503 жыл бұрын
I'm happy I ran across your channel ... great video!
@warbonnet642 жыл бұрын
Nice nice selection of C2's! My last one was a '66 big block, Muncie 4-speed, knock offs with side exhaust in Marina Blue. Absolutely LOVED that Vette!. As soon as I get my last kid out of college I will be looking you up!
@joevette62943 жыл бұрын
You guys are really good at restoring C-2's👍👍👍
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
We definitely appreciate it! Also thanks for checking out my channel!
@ernestkangiser25093 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Blue with red touch !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@russellcardinal90743 жыл бұрын
Looks like a pro shop.
@sportify48493 жыл бұрын
4:15 surly needs a frame off resto. I am sure the windshield cage along down to the door hagings will even look worse ;) .
@DwainDwight3 жыл бұрын
Nice one and please post more, especially good to know what to look out for when buying.
@rondpert5167 Жыл бұрын
I like that '61 Impala. There should be a law against selling mid-years out of the country. Gold line tires were the factory option in '65.
@gayleg8082 жыл бұрын
I have owned my 66 Corvette since 75. It was driven in the snow and salty roads of CT until I moved to S. FLA. 25 years ago I shipped it to Honolulu. I don't have much money in the car and I have recently redone the interior to clean it up and I also had the original engine rebuilt. My husband and I did all the work. A frame off would be perfect for me to use it as a daily driver. I am not going to get to picky with it or else I wont be fun any more, but safety is very important. The car will be shipped in a couple months so I hope to visit your shop next year.
@Olds_Gold3 жыл бұрын
He's got to spend as much fixing it as he paid for it. I feel bad for that dude.
@68air3 жыл бұрын
True--Fiberglass tells very little tales. It is the bird cage and frame that tell the story.
@NeverTalkToCops13 жыл бұрын
More, the car is rotted out, needs a new frame. Millions.
@terryandrews72712 жыл бұрын
I had a 63 split window co-op, Blew up the motor and put a hopped up 327 at 400 horsepower. I had several hot rods but the Corvette was scary fast🔥🔥🔥👍
@sunny6893 жыл бұрын
What a shame! Buyer was taken! He is now going to pay twice the purchase price. I wonder about the condition of the ' bird cage ' and rad support. Not to mention other surprises when they get into it. Obviously buyer didn't have a qualified person examine the car. If there is frame rot....Run away.
@dazasc39943 жыл бұрын
yeh anyone who knows vettes would have picked up on the frame rot immediately
@MrDjh663 жыл бұрын
Great vid thanks I’ll look under my 66
@dennisbrooks2403 жыл бұрын
Redline tire's on the blue. I had a blue 66 two top blue. Nice Road car.
@markwest94473 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Shop
@davidnoonchester19132 жыл бұрын
The yellow vett is really nice
@Anthony-qj7qe3 жыл бұрын
Feel bad for the dude but he obviously has a the money to have this repaired, a lot of us don't...👍
@Mike-en4ye3 жыл бұрын
So nice. Everything
@peterfoxwell51982 жыл бұрын
It's not that the frame is bad, u just have a very strong finger.
@anthonyfunderburk78713 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 💯👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
@1ls3763 жыл бұрын
And candidate for a full Art Morrison chassis.
@clicks593 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t you get a thorough inspection before buying it? Did anyone else see the Honda Trail 70’s in the background?
@CleanClassicCars3 жыл бұрын
Bought a a major auction beware
@pcs58523 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! The car is 55 years old and from Michigan! Did anyone expect the undercarriage to be in mint condition? A frame off resto is normal for anyone who wants to make a daily driver out of an old classic.
@dougjenks86373 жыл бұрын
Nice work !!
@perrymurdock75052 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video just learning about the C2's have a few C3's....thinking of buying a C2
@johnweaver11983 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I enjoyed Musclecar's before money got in it and time was not eating away at the metal. I have one car left and that's a wrap. Sorry to sound this way but screw older car's. And I love old iron but this video sums it up for me.....
@TheBeingReal3 жыл бұрын
Those frames, fuel and brake lines are all rust prone. A friend with a ‘63 had to replace the whole frame on his. Was his dads car as original owner and a daily driver for years since new. $30k+ later all better.
@NeverTalkToCops13 жыл бұрын
Sure? More like $300 k with new frame.
@illreportbackinabit.85143 жыл бұрын
Factory brake lines often come with unions, they are not illegal.
@MrTexasDan3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. Compression fittings are a big no-no, but pipe unions are in new cars.
@jazzpup82883 жыл бұрын
I worked on vettes in Texas for a long time. I was under a 66 like this one once and noticed that someone had scratched the van halen "vh" on the bottom of the front crossmember. Thought it was cool.
@brucethompson18793 жыл бұрын
glad i stumbled upon your channel.
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@ironhorse1273 жыл бұрын
Hope that guy bought this at a reasonable price. Serious issues on this one
@NeverTalkToCops13 жыл бұрын
$175,000?
@MrBluoct4 жыл бұрын
Incredible
@kevinhorning36243 жыл бұрын
im from pa. grew up with salt on the roads. always look under the car. always look under the car before ya buy it.
@NeverTalkToCops13 жыл бұрын
Always put on lift and have trusted mechanic check.
@chrisholcombe1373 жыл бұрын
Wishing wishing to just see the original engines ! Oh those Corvette Big Blocks with the rectangular closed Chamber heads ! You can ALMOST hear 1970 454 Creation ! Chevy ll Camaro Nova Chevelle El Camino Monte Carlo any Body ??? By Fisher ! 63 Grand Sport Mystery 427 MK IV design Block ! The 70s muscle thanks you Chevrolet Division ! The 60s muscle can thank you ! the 50s muscle to the 40s muscle to the 30s to the 20s and 10s and again to the Family and Brothers Chevrolet ! RACING BREED . THANK YOU !
@chriscrain28783 жыл бұрын
At what point during your inspection do you look at the bird cage? I assume younhave to wait until you separate the body from the frame. Great video. Auction cars can be scary, regardless who sells them.
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
We are actually able to get a pretty good assessment with the chassis still in place using borescopes. Luckily, the birdcage was not in terrible condition in this car which is great because it wasn't within this customers budget either way. Thanks for checking out my channel!
@chriscrain28783 жыл бұрын
@@HorsepowerWarehouse Thanks much.
@SteveV62062 жыл бұрын
Union brake fittings are stock on some newer vehicles. Compression fittings for repairs are a No-No.
@spokes52013 жыл бұрын
The Nassau Blue Corvette that you said was a '66 427, is that actually a '65 L78 car? I wasn't aware they used that hood on the later cars. Regardless, awesome with the side pipes. The exact car I would want if I ever had the chance.
@chiefordnance Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to add a 36 gallon tank on a C2 that had the 20 gallon tank?
@JAAB92963 жыл бұрын
Why would anybody buy any car like this and NOT demand to look under the car . That is classic car buying 101.
@jimvelie56543 жыл бұрын
Probably pays to buy one with new frame done
@bartman45563 жыл бұрын
I thought the passenger A arm was cracked too. Shame what people pass off to the un knowing
@MtM22533 жыл бұрын
So that's where all the cars went.
@josephrapoza64532 жыл бұрын
Been sitting there 10 years..
@christopherarnold15683 жыл бұрын
roadster shop chassis will do the trick!!
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I personally like the RS, Art Morrison and Rothspeed offerings for the C2s.
@southernbreeze32783 жыл бұрын
wonder what shape the fiberglass is in under the paint - he'll find out in a couple of years
@johnshellenberg13833 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know what the cost of this undertaking would be
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
This one was right around 35k with tax. Thanks for checking out my channel!
@68air3 жыл бұрын
@@HorsepowerWarehouse That sounds very reasonable but in order for this person to break even he will need to sell this car for close to 100K I am afraid.
@Cha-y4122 жыл бұрын
What a nightmare for that owner. Brings it in to stop the oil leaks and gets told the frame is completely shot.
@seankirkpatrick81713 жыл бұрын
Why would you say a union is illegal? It’s not even a dangerous repair? If it was a compression fitting I’d wholeheartedly agree, I assume that’s what you thought it was at first glance?
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely correct I was being an idiot. What I meant to say was it is a NCRS point deduction. Inverted flare unions work just fine on a non judged repair. Thanks for checking out my channel and nice catch!
@danlaur79733 жыл бұрын
Yellow belongs on a banana, I'll take that silver big block for sure
@josephrapoza64532 жыл бұрын
Last leg only 25 years of life left.
@kenmcdade83683 жыл бұрын
WONDER if you guy's did my yellow 63 split window pro street Corvette
@jasonschwomeyer48342 жыл бұрын
I can't find your website to get more info on cars for sale.
@rtn992 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on lifting a C2 corvette using the frame -vs- the way you lifted this one with a drive-on lift?? I'm talking about a C2 that does NOT have a previous 'frame-off restoration". Would think a lot less strain on the frame. Have also heard a C2 frame/body can flex when lifted by the frame. Can you give me your professional opinion please.
@hippielogger10903 жыл бұрын
Is that a huge crack in the lower right A-arm?
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
Good catch, both lower A arms and rear trailing arms were toast.
@johnsmith-qz4bv4 жыл бұрын
i think it needs a frame off resto......hope he didnt pay alot for that corvette
@verndaley3471 Жыл бұрын
Does Art Morrison make a chassis for a C2?
@68air3 жыл бұрын
Do you do mechanical work or just restorations at your shop?
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
We have a growing schedule of full restorations at this point so we aren't taking standard repair work for the foreseeable future. Thanks for checking out my channel!
@jimvelie56543 жыл бұрын
I have been looking at corvettes from dealers in Mich area scary now thanks for video, Could you give a estimate about what it would cost to restore bottom of car thanks.
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
Every car is a different story but for reference this build was right around 32k including: Donor chassis, rebuilt engine, rebuilt transmission, rebuilt rear end, powdercoat, new exhaust, plus at least 4k worth of small parts. If I go though the effort and cost of doing a chassis, there are certain consumables I replace every time. Fuel and brake lines, all clips and retaining hardware, all u joints, anything made of rubber, fuel tank / sending unit / tank straps, body straps and mounts, ect. all get replaced. Thanks for the comments and checking out my channel!
@captainbondo64273 жыл бұрын
@@HorsepowerWarehouse 32K ? Not out of line at all .
@michaelashcraft85693 жыл бұрын
Could have sworn I saw a ....Gremlin ????
@milojanis4901 Жыл бұрын
You guys near C&S Corvettes?
@talalalfassam17753 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Do you have a website? Im interested in buying a classic car and wanted to know what cars do you have available?
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the compliment! Our website is www.classiccarsofsarasota.com
@daleolson35063 жыл бұрын
Threaded unions are ok. Compression unions no
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
Good catch, I was being an idiot. Inverted flare unions are perfectly fine on a non judged repair.
@harleyworm36413 жыл бұрын
I need a mop to wipe my drool off the floor.
@raypredhomme29103 жыл бұрын
Great video.Where r u located.
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
Sarasota, FL. Thanks for checking out my channel!
@caganb2 жыл бұрын
No c-4 vets?
@rjkeenan89553 жыл бұрын
Blueline tires
@turdferguson743 жыл бұрын
Surely he was aware of the condition.
@southernbreeze32783 жыл бұрын
uh no, not at all
@tripnfallshow3 жыл бұрын
"I shouldn't be able to stick my finger through there." That's what she said.
@jimmielong27483 жыл бұрын
The blue one it's not a Cadillac it's a Corvette it needs red stripe
@larrydrozd27403 жыл бұрын
Too many times....a piece of metal with powder coat is actually rusted inside. We had a range rover in our shop with a roll bar that had been powder coated, the only thing left was the actual powder coat!! It crumbled away when you struck it with a hammer. Its good "on paper" but in the real world? No. Besides, if you're in the restoration world, especially Corvettes, you cannot have powder coat on them, anywhere. The only thing we would ever powder coat is the wrinkle finish on Hemi valve covers...thats it. Now....the rust he is showing here is common on these cars and easy to spot! Seriously....just look for it, he just showed you what to look for.
@SealofPerfection3 жыл бұрын
Sooo....MSRP on the yellow one is 5,576? I'll take it today, cash money, for 5,500. Let's make a deal!
@clevelandbrowns33253 жыл бұрын
Are those c2's for sale? What is your website? Please post link.
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
www.classiccarsofsarasota.com Thanks for checking out my channel!
@jimvelie56543 жыл бұрын
Do you sell cars too ?
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
We do, my website is www.classiccarsofsarasota.com. I don't mention my dealership on this channel because I don't want to come off as a car salesman. Besides, our cars sell themselves and I want to provide the best / coolest content possible for my subscribers without a sales pitch.
@my2commonsense4763 жыл бұрын
So how much is it to do a frame off?
@user-qr7ee2cp4y3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, how much... roughly to just get it right. I'm not talking ncrs right. Just safe and drivable?
@68air3 жыл бұрын
35K
@williamo.25193 жыл бұрын
And the total cost for that Vette repair would be how much????
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
This job cost right around 35k with engine, trans, rear end rebuild. This was a customer car so we didn't do the usual full build with paint, chrome, trim, interior, ect. Thanks for checking out my channel!
@robchell91963 жыл бұрын
Website?
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
www.classiccarsofsarasota.com Thanks for checking out my channel!
@tonyhaynes90803 жыл бұрын
What does it cost to have a new frame for a C2 please?
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
A clean frame can usually be sourced for around 5 to 7k plus powder coating. The labor for a frame off chassis restoration will be a minimum of 140 hours. Most cars we do also get an engine rebuild, trans rebuild, rear end rebuild, new brakes, lines, bushings, tires, ect. We usually budget 35k plus interior / top and paint cost.
@Yankeededandy623 жыл бұрын
My guess would be, if you have to replace the frame, chances are good, you'll also do the birdcage. Pretty much the biggest nightmare on an old Corvette. It might be somewhat worthwhile to do on a C2, but if this was a C3, I'd run far, far away (not taking some very rare early C3s into consideration of course).
@murph553 жыл бұрын
@@Yankeededandy62 i agreed with you but he didn't said any thing about the bird cage,
@Yankeededandy623 жыл бұрын
@@murph55 I was wondering why it wasn't mentioned. I have a hard time believing, that a frame could be so rusted and the birdcage not affected at all.
@brucebolton51833 жыл бұрын
@@Yankeededandy62 Okay , No one else wants to sound like dummy, so I'll ask, What's the "birdcage"?
@rayhack79363 жыл бұрын
Any Mopars in that whse?
@oldrrocr2 жыл бұрын
So sad. Makes you want to cry... until you realize it is NOT your plastic pig with a rusty frame.
@justinvandal96963 жыл бұрын
Fast over a set of bumps and it will break in half!
@NeverTalkToCops13 жыл бұрын
Why yes, yes it will, then go into a tree, no air bag, so you have a fatality.
@justinvandal96963 жыл бұрын
@@NeverTalkToCops1 I just mean it has a lot of issues.
@DwainDwight3 жыл бұрын
also what's your website?
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out my channel! www.classiccarsofsarasota.com
@Cozman4303 жыл бұрын
That frame is a disaster...
@berniemendez73963 жыл бұрын
You guys at these "specialty shop" are like all other contractors, everything needs to be redone or replaced, bad work/parts etc. Vet looks like a nice driver, fix the leaks and enjoy for many years and get your money's worth. Then resale, buy another. You will spend thousands which won't return. People can't see underneath, have fun and enjoy....
@bengone33493 жыл бұрын
It only takes a serious bump to flex that rusted area of the frame enough that it would break at the kick up area. These frames rust from the inside, and fail with NO notice.
@deansapp46353 жыл бұрын
Just another flexible flier
@johnjaco55443 жыл бұрын
Nothing a little bondo Won't fix, and new under coating.
@grantmarut74883 жыл бұрын
200k what was he smoking
@Miadolph3 жыл бұрын
How much for that AMC Gremlin?
@HorsepowerWarehouse3 жыл бұрын
It's sold and gone, I'm sorry I didn't get the chance to share it with the channel www.classiccarsofsarasota.com/vehicles/788/1976-amc-gremlin
@NeverTalkToCops13 жыл бұрын
"A completely rotted out frame." Well, if America were a Corvette...
@johnbell44052 жыл бұрын
Must of drove on salt wintery roads?????
@rockystrazzi23873 жыл бұрын
Owners fault..more money then brains..would of been worth flying a guy like this to Michigan or local Vette restoration to put on lift..google what to look for in buying a Vette....FRAME AND BIRDCAGE.. unless he stole it..
@4dszr1643 жыл бұрын
Slow the camera down!
@andrefecteau3 жыл бұрын
it came from Michigan??? Tell dude to sell it to some other geriatric in Florida and get another one, otherwise fix the leaks and drive it
@driverslqqk79403 жыл бұрын
I hate to put down the new owner but do you not have looked underneath the car or bring a friend with you who know something about cars evidently he knows nothing about cars at all other than drive them wow ?