We flew to EKWB HQ to get answers from CEO

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Original GAMERSNEXUS investigation - Watch this first: tinyurl.com/236wp25f
On the 28th of April 2024, highly respected youtube channel GAMERSNEXUS created a one hour video delving deep into the practises of Slovenian cooling company EKWB.
GamersNexus video entitled 'Exposing Corruption: EK's Prison Threats, Lawsuits, Dangerous Workplace, & Leaked Documents' was staggering - both in the depth of research and in the allegations presented by GamersNexus own Steve Burke.
Would it be possible to get EKWB's CEO Edvard König on camera - asking him the hard questions? We don't know Edvard well, we heard he is a quiet man - but this is his company, he is responsible.
At completely our own cost, I booked our team some flights, hotel rooms and we brought all our own camera equipment so we always had complete control. We headed into EKWB HQ to get a face to face with Edvard himself.
We didn't know if Edvard would answer our questions, and we didn't know if what he would say would genuinely give any insights. EKWB could have kicked us out out at any minute - that thought had crossed our minds as the KitGuru team boarded the plane from London in the United Kingdom.
What you see in this video was shot on 16th May at EKWB HQ, d.o.o. Komenda.
Nothing has been removed. I made sure of that.
Edvard explained there is an email set up to contact them directly regarding any matters we discussed in this video - reachout@ekwb.com
If you worked for EKWB, or want to share anything with Kitguru directly - send to allan (at) kitguru.net
Allan Campbell - Kitguru Founder and Editor in Chief
00:00 Intro
01:11 Dan Henderson - breaking NDA and lies (EKWB claim)
05:50 Cease and Desist
06:25 EKWB operations, leadership and people in charge
14:32 $5 million dollar ‘loan’
17:46 Accepting responsibility -US operations and labour laws
20:35 US Staff mistreated
21:33 A channel has been open to contact EKWB - no one has
23:40 Racism and screenshots
25:48 Cultural issues
26:57 What changes does EKWB need to make?
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@KitGuruTech Ай бұрын

What do you think? ---- Be sure to share your thoughts below!

@swizzler8053 Ай бұрын

I smell bullshit.

@alpinestars-wm8rv Ай бұрын

Nice work Guys! Jump on a plane and get it from the horses mouth! Quality Control? RMA faster turn around? … Quality Control? Don’t suppose these were mentioned off camera?

@hokayson6518 Ай бұрын

Very much enjoyed this piece, well worth the plane ride!

@Pressbutan Ай бұрын

His first answer is not related to your question and is entirely evasive. I’m not even 10% through the video and my bullshit alarm is going off

@Pressbutan Ай бұрын

2:35 WOW. The actual answer was somehow even more insulting to the viewers intelligence

@pronstorestiffi Ай бұрын

Man that stare from Leo and slight pause before the "Fair enough" was brutal.

@ZeroB4NG Ай бұрын

I think he was just concentrating really hard to understand that man. I'm 5 minutes in and i already lost the plot XD

@Necromancerbob-zp7us Ай бұрын

lol. Yeah Leo looked mean. 😂

@geofftatesmate7748 Ай бұрын

I laughed 😂

@catbertz Ай бұрын

@@Necromancerbob-zp7us Glad he's on our side! 😅🤣

@buddybleeyes Ай бұрын

So glad he's like, that's not the point in this- back to the question. What a legend

@Marbeary Ай бұрын

When PC Hardware reviewers have better journalistic integrity than most modern Journalist.

@theonlyredspecial Ай бұрын

Well said 👍🏻

@iamahappybunny7640 Ай бұрын

💯

@gogopowerrangers6596 Ай бұрын

Yes great channel it’s under appreciated

@selectthedead Ай бұрын

Well Said, Well Said, but they are Not journalists anymore. They have become activists!

@itsJoshW Ай бұрын

When PC Hardware Reviewers have better journalistic integrity than even PC Hardware Reviewers who claim to be moonlighting as investigative journalists due to reading an reddit thread.

@coreykirkpatrick4392 Ай бұрын

I'll say it... they didn't pay him, then EKWB in breach of contract first, and that voids any NDA.

@seanscott1933 Ай бұрын

I find the argument that "the invoice went to the wrong address" is weak at best. Almost as good as "the check's in the mail".

@LiLBitsDK Ай бұрын

yeah sounds shady that he ALL the other times send to the correct one but suddenly it's the wrong one... and that doesn't explain the countless other issues and people and companies saying they were not paid

@Necromancerbob-zp7us Ай бұрын

Hard to know until you work in a place. Our own it department and mail system is shocking too

@KnightRider-lq5yb Ай бұрын

Feels weak to me. Unless dans autofill went to some random person. But most people in a company would reply to that person and let them know ? Surely ?

@Focusbreak-Habeeb Ай бұрын

I have that from some of my clients too. One of my regular clients would send me a payment 3-days after the invoice is sent, never faltered.. But whenever there is an email change or anything then the auto process doesn't go through and someone has to step in, which usually delays the payment by a few more days. Automated payment systems are a pain, but it happens.

@stanemeh155 Ай бұрын

He is an EX employee that sent an invoice to the wrong email address... How can that happen...hmm maybe because the work laptop has been locked and returned and he just sent an invoice to the first email he had in his home PC/laptop. Is that so hard to believe? That a sacked employee will be angry because he was sacked and now he is on vandeta and is lying and misinforming anything he can to get attention.

@TheSinzia Ай бұрын

Ugh, that Computex "answer" to the Dan question at the start is just tone deaf. I hate it when people are being interviewed and they don't actually answer the question! Thank you for keeping Eddy accountable and not letting him slip out of answering.

@linuxsux41 Ай бұрын

Right off the bat, first question was a tough one, and gets replied to in CEO speak talking about how things are fine. Edvard showed immediately he didn't want to be here to set the record straight, he wanted a PR boost. Had to edit for my favorite bit when Leo asks about allegations of racism between the Europe and American branch and Edvard is like "Oh you know about the cultural difference between Europe and America, right?" And when Leo isn't onboard with that answer and pushes for more info he essentially gets, we weren't being racist, don't look too hard into it.

@LucidEnemy Ай бұрын

“We didn’t shutter US Operations we optimized it “ 😂 I’m using this line lol

@pauldehayes1898 Ай бұрын

Having worked manufacturing for roughly half as long as I've been here, there is no amount of air freshener or shovels that can get rid of that stank. I might be a bit salty after hearing such cookie-cutter nonsense for so long, and how horribly it can impact people's livelihoods and lives in general......

@ElGuaposable Ай бұрын

That face Leo made after he said that line is absolutely amazing

@SmilieLyon Ай бұрын

They were running out the lease and then closed shop when it ran out. They could easily have told employees that the lease was ending and what the date was

@bigwizardenergy Ай бұрын

"Weirdly enough, nobody emailed us. Crazy right?"

@alfonso0151 Ай бұрын

The guy being interviewed: seems to be doing something like a last ditch effort to control the perspective of the situation. At least we now know what is his response to this.

@helljester8097 Ай бұрын

Totally, if I understood the timeline he decided to take back control relatively recently (February I think). As almost every KZfaqr has shown the damage was already done and he took back control too late to make any real difference. Hopefully he himself will make the right decisions and save the company which has his own name on it!

@thetechdevil-jn1vo Ай бұрын

Yeah fingers crossed. He isn’t a native English speaker and clearly an engineer. So I can forgive the awkwardness on camera.

@theduck17 Ай бұрын

@@helljester8097take back control but always remained the majority owner. Basically "blame the other guy" and act like he was clueless to how terrible his own company was being run but I'm sure he knew more than he leads on because he's best buddies with that old CEO as well.

@alesksander Ай бұрын

@@theduck17 Yeah he essentially threw all leaderships and management under the bus. haha yikees.

@devonmoreau Ай бұрын

I appreciate you giving EK an opportunity to give their side of the story, it’s extremely fair, as well as the professional nature of the interview. Excellent work!

Ай бұрын

Sensational work Leo!

@thetechdevil-jn1vo Ай бұрын

Agree !

@KitGuruTech Ай бұрын

Thanks for the support.

@one-rv2bx Ай бұрын

Thanks, Steve

@user-uv8qn1br8q Ай бұрын

wow good job leo, remind me to never get on your bad side, that stare with 'fair enough, lets get back to the question;' was intimidating !

@buggerlugz6753 Ай бұрын

Yeah...told you everything you needed to know about the threats and how his company is ran.

@DiegoSanchez-fi9cf Ай бұрын

This... Was a painful watch, not on the KitGuru end, rather then EKWB, its... not okay anymore.

@KalecStromhir Ай бұрын

this interview was actually hard to watch.

@mikesunboxing Ай бұрын

That guy seems to be very keen to answer the questions with totally irrelevant points

@AgentLokVokun Ай бұрын

Sounds like a politician. 😆

@lucifersheadscarf6988 Ай бұрын

I guess he is a politician of his company !

@johndamerval3871 Ай бұрын

This makes me want to have everyone contact Edward to ask him why they haven't been paying their suppliers, advertisers, and etc?

@GregM Ай бұрын

When one owns 85% of a company and seemingly is blissfully unaware of financial issues. The US division had not paid state sales taxes. Evard took over in Feb 2024 as CEO and he only came out with a statement in April 2024 after Gamer's Nexus first video. Almost 3 months after he took over.

@DJdoppIer Ай бұрын

I can't help but doubt almost everything König said. There is so much evidence against EKWB, and König's argument is essentially _"Nuh uh!"_ with no evidence to disprove the allegations against his company. He could've brought screenshots and documents to backup his counter-argument, but I imagine he didn't because the evidence doesn't exist, and he knows it. Basically he's trying to save face without admitting anything.

@samgeldenhuys3760 Ай бұрын

he indeed does not have receipts, everyone else has their receipts again this question dodging though

@georgelowrielowrie5428 Ай бұрын

Dam! Leo Paxman! Need to get him interviewing politicians next! Great video!

@Itsameamario-ns3se Ай бұрын

I think he just did 😮

@phoenix4267 Ай бұрын

Damn, i can't believe edvard felt the need to start with a quick promotion of computex. The worst move you could do and it further soured my image of EKWB "Did you really blackmail someone?" "Oh, but first lets talk about my upcoming book-" The entire interview felt like edvard trying to redirect the blame to the employers. "But they didn't contact me!" Can't wait to see the follow-up video.

@stennan Ай бұрын

They spent a lot of money on that booth, so he really wants the media to visit them there (and perhaps not talk about the US situation.. please?).

@phoenix4267 Ай бұрын

its still weird to bring it up in an interview first thing. He could've left it at "i can't talk about it" or leave the computex part out. But honestly i'm pretty unknown at policies for NDA's and law's about it.

@JCustom Ай бұрын

You mean you watched a one sided video blaming the company which is different how? Everyone has their set of documents and proof.

@phoenix4267 Ай бұрын

@@JCustom yeah fair, the computex bit threw me off and made me assume intentions.

@helljester8097 Ай бұрын

Yeah everything else he said was so much more professional than that stupid plug for their booth he made at the beginning.

@ravenspire9691 Ай бұрын

having been a Sub-Postmaster while the post office where falsely imprisoning them for their defective computer system, this person sets off the same warnings to me as the PO team did; I am press x to doubt. Good work from KitGuru, the best PC Hardware channel

@Safetytrousers Ай бұрын

I'm afraid your statement makes no sense.

@stennan Ай бұрын

@@Safetytrousers UK Post service had an issue with their computer system. Lead to 800 postmen getting jailed for stealing/embezzeling which later could be traced to a faulty computer system. The company downplayed it for decades...

@Safetytrousers Ай бұрын

@@stennan It was the while the post office where that got me. And the lack of explanation of why any such an incident would connect to this. 900 were prosecuted and 236 people were sent to prison.

@ravenspire9691 Ай бұрын

@@Safetytrousers It means I know corporate speak, deflection and flat out BS when I see and hear it. This is mirrored but not limited to 'no one has contacted us' type starements, legal threats and attacking / been dismissive of people making complaints. Also the strange behaviour of people and even whole organisations defending said companies. spoiler there is usually a money trail /personal investment

@Safetytrousers Ай бұрын

@@ravenspire9691 This is about a business that exists to make money. The person being interviewed owns the company.

@Cylindermaster Ай бұрын

Good video/interview, they are still having delays from the companies that are making their waterblocks. We'll watch this space.

@techieg33k Ай бұрын

Thank you. This was great to see

@dennyupchurch Ай бұрын

as a former employee of ek , i have reached out to the email provided. i will update this comment if anything changes

@YTesting Ай бұрын

Great work!

@KitGuruTech Ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Roman00744 Ай бұрын

Great work Leo, thank you.

@KitGuruTech Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@kelownatechkid Ай бұрын

Wild stuff, amazing work !!

@KitGuruTech Ай бұрын

Thanks a lot!

@sparkplugbarrens Ай бұрын

Very respectful interview, cudos! I think you found a good balance between touching on important points and treating König in a humane way.

@dennyupchurch Ай бұрын

the way he k9nig didnt do with his employees

@bigchimpin4215 Ай бұрын

What about the missed payments to jayztwocents?

@KitGuruTech Ай бұрын

We heard they paid him half what they owed him - but thats just what we heard

@KitGuruTech Ай бұрын

@@upyermaw2732 Honestly no idea, I assume they came to an agreement with Jay directly. This is what we heard anyway.

@danielbuckley7793 Ай бұрын

He sent the invoice to the wrong address 😂

@joeschmoe5009 Ай бұрын

Its not just jay, theres many creators in the same situation, he is probably just the largest creator

@benjaminoechsli1941 Ай бұрын

@@KitGuruTech Jay has said in a video that he agreed to payments in halves, at least. So it's good to see things moving in the right direction.

@dreschaffhausen5693 Ай бұрын

Whole thing is quite frankly astonishing. Very interesting interview from Leo.

@Tanktaco Ай бұрын

Wow the hits just keep on coming.

@wasdwasdwwasd 15 күн бұрын

The modern equivalent of the Frost Nixon interviews.

@pelican8027 Ай бұрын

Great job Leo

@parapotes Ай бұрын

Cannot wait for next nexus video...

@Mediocrates9 Ай бұрын

I feel like this just affirmed most of the allegations… not to mention the JTC video, it sounds like EK is really trying to play all this off as if it’s just hearsay at this point.

@mikemanau Ай бұрын

Whenever someone asks me a tough question from now on, I will reply with “come to Computex!”

@alesksander Ай бұрын

Yeah totally out of place. Jesus. No shame.

@jaku8sko Ай бұрын

Great content Leo and kitguru

@canarychrome7012 Ай бұрын

Well this was a lot more interesting than what EKWB did on their own channel - not sure who to believe- what NDA did Dan Henderson break? did he leak information?

@sirmonkey1985 Ай бұрын

you'd have to look at his employment contract but typically at minimum there is a 1 year clause in it after being terminated or quitting that you're not allowed to publicly speak about said employer, take any internal business to the media, etc, etc. the US and i'm sure europe does as well has protections for current/past employee's whistleblowing employers though.

@darkkingastos4369 Ай бұрын

If they didn't pay him then the NDA would be voided

@gamebuster800 Ай бұрын

"they didn't pay me" might be leaking information?

@Itsameamario-ns3se Ай бұрын

Wow really ?

@juntapiezas Ай бұрын

@@gamebuster800 If you don't pay, you can't ask the contract to be honored.

@caitlynhorne1661 Ай бұрын

Absolutely amazing work, Leo! Very well played pushing back and making sure he could not just explain everything away.

@FrodeBergetonNilsen Ай бұрын

He claims in public, that all his employees will be paid what they are due, including overtime. That is great. As for the rest, apart from acknowledge a lot of facts, he did not really explain them. Nor did he say anything like "we are sorry that people have not been paid, and we are working hard to correct that." Rather he said in essence that, "we put up an email address, and nobody has contacted us", blaming his employees for him not paying them. That is victim blaming. Also, the working conditions that were illegal and unsafe, there is nothing here that is like "I was shocked to hear that, and I am doing everything within my power to make sure all our employees have safe working conditions". Those are such easy things to say, that with assistance from a layer, you will be able to formulate. Simply because you have to abide by laws regulating this anyway. You are just stating the obvious. But he actually don't. In short, he is probably a technician, and he probably should leave management to others. Not understanding the gravity of unsafe working conditions and failing to pay employees, and being exposed for it like this, well, then you deserve to go down. Hard.

@kaylee.snyder Ай бұрын

Great work Leo 👍🏻

@KitGuruTech Ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@canarychrome7012 Ай бұрын

18:55 They optimised it? really? thats some spin lol. leos response was epic.

@Scarecrow1965 Ай бұрын

as CEO and owner, he has to walk the fine line and try to be diplomatic yet convincing enough. I'm sure that there might be some heads that will roll in the future but the company is on edge and try to re-strengthen itself. I can't imagine him dealing with all the suppliers, contracts, employees, etc., that he has to re-manage and somehow come out of this. But, I will admit, he did skirt around the issues that are plaguing his company and right now, he is in damage control.

@hokayson6518 Ай бұрын

Great work, direct questions asked & none of you own spin added so we get to make our own judgements on the responses. There's a few more questions I'd like to have seen asked, but you covered most of the bigger stuff.

@TheSickness Ай бұрын

Hell yeah, we're gonna get another GN vid on this... Let's gooo! Back to you Steve 👉

@fw1968 Ай бұрын

Thank you for your honest journalism! We need more of this to keep these companies honest.

@noahbirdrevolution Ай бұрын

26:18 No we don't Edvard, that's why Kit is asking for all the hardworking Americans from every background. Edvard is a trip. Hardest hitting interview I've seen in years. Thanks, KGT!

@tindo Ай бұрын

Fantastic interview 🫡🫡

@PIXX3L5 Ай бұрын

I miss good old journalism

@ToxicChillz Ай бұрын

I don't even know whether I can believe a word he was saying, every question he answered had a number of feelings to it for me - Shift the blame - people are lying - invoice went to wrong address (possible but surely this is a very quick fix). - people didn't contact the senior people, I find that hard to believe. Starting off this interview promoting EKWB at computex puts a seriously bad taste in anyones mouth. Dancing round questions like it didn't matter, does the exact same thing... There is a definite bad taste and smell around the whole situation, for me I will keep away from anything EKWB for a while. Cause this just isn't looking good in anyway shape or form.

@markbooth3066 Ай бұрын

It's possible that people didn't use the e-mail address provided, because they were advised not to by their lawyers.

@theduck17 Ай бұрын

@@markbooth3066that what I was thinking too. Once they engaged with the labor lawyers it was a done deal. EK trying to set up an alibi months after the fact (and after they shut down the location, I mean optimized it)...the email they created was a way to say "see, nobody emailed us...that means they were all lying!"

@BadBillyJack Ай бұрын

boy, that was painful.

@daveraven4044 Ай бұрын

Great job Kitguru team! Outstanding Leo! EK strikes me as evasive and condescending during interview. In 2016 i had good customer service with EKWB and overall quality products. My current open loop system still working fine. Time will tell all with EK. May not use EK on upcoming build. I'll be watching.

@leviathanpriim3951 Ай бұрын

thank you Leo

@KitGuruTech Ай бұрын

Welcome!

@AFpaleoCon Ай бұрын

I seriously thought this was a gamernexus video…

@Dropkickgopnik Ай бұрын

you are not the only one that thought this :D

@Mc-Derpulous Ай бұрын

Same

@martinmalone6324 Ай бұрын

with less hair 🤣🤣🤣

@KitGuruTech Ай бұрын

@@martinmalone6324 ouch 😵

@Slimzyjoe Ай бұрын

This dude don't got the balls to sit in a room with Steve. Lol.

@MikeB1972 Ай бұрын

I swear I've seen this exact interview, or style at least, seven plus years ago lmfao Even the adds hit at the key moments and the adds KZfaq is pushing are some I feel like I've seen all those years ago too! 😅 Or my memory is just getting that bad... Cain't wait to see GamersNexus do a highlight reel of this exact vidjeo! Thanks Steve, back to you Steve.

@del8boy Ай бұрын

IMHO communication error.

@kristi_howard Ай бұрын

Damn!!!

@MrDamonLeBeouf Ай бұрын

this was incredible...ly bad for ekwb. im glad they're talking but man this was not the interview he needed to put out there to 1) save face and 2) keep customers.

@MiddleofKnowhere Ай бұрын

Glad to see this Leo and Kitguru crew! I'm glad the questions were asked, but I felt some of the answers were not great enough and/or Eddie kind of came off as combative at times. I get it though. He probably cannot answer a lot of things due to possible litigation going on. I also think any of the money woes currently going on might be a result of some good ole fashion embezzlement by the prior CEO, and I say this based on how GN posited the web of things when it came to the organization and people. Ultimately, I'd like to see EK find its north star, simplify its product line, increase quality, increase customer support, and reduce prices. Question, what PC case was that being shown in the background? Thank you for your work (and hopefully an answer to that case question).

@KitGuruTech Ай бұрын

This isnt over - keep your eye on the channel.

@JoJoJenkns Ай бұрын

What about Jayztwocents? Let’s. Or forget his perspective too. But as always KitGuru delivered a great interview. Love your videos keep up the great work !!!

@eatthisvr6 Ай бұрын

If theyre as bad as it looks like they are then they need to go under. This will send a messege to the rest of the industry to sort your shit out because there could be actual consequences

@Mc-Derpulous Ай бұрын

One would think, but look at asus and the rma saga. All these companies are too smug to adhere to anything for very long. Here lately it seems the pc market space is all basically ran on corrupt principles.

@eatthisvr6 Ай бұрын

@@Mc-Derpulous you just described the entire capitalist system

@darkkingastos4369 Ай бұрын

@@Mc-Derpulous The US government doesn't F around when it comes to overtime laws. It's one of the few things that they are willing to punish large corporations over.

@mfdsuk Ай бұрын

Good interview Leo.

@buggerlugz6753 Ай бұрын

I thought Prince Andrew's Pizza-gate interview was bad..what a car crash! I can just imagine using the reach-out email and then getting sacked the following day.....god, working for Boeing must be better than working for this guy!

@wallywest2360 Ай бұрын

Didn't watch more than a minute or so, his ummm, ahhh, hey computex! Says it all.

@xnitropunkx Ай бұрын

Lawyers def did a couple practice sessions with the CEO before this happened.

@gtr9794 Ай бұрын

I understand that he and his 'friends' are forced to face lots of various and complicated issues and these are the reason why he didn't want to explain and reveal it more specifically. But the thing is, THIS IS NOT WORKING FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES, CONTRACTORS AND CONSUMERS. I think what he needs to answer is not making things more vague but showing how to rebuild the trust of employees especially on communication. 'No reports' can't be a good excuse for this chaos

@Moshenokoji Ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm not so sure i believe ol' Eddie. Glad i don't run their stuff anymore.

@oneofus6924 Ай бұрын

we need a Leo for all types of news and interviews. he is the best.

@cs_mns Ай бұрын

fitting backdrop for an eel

@TheCell-vx3pk Ай бұрын

I think it's very important to see this European side of the whole situation. So far I only saw GN's and Jay's side, which were fair criticism, but limited to what the US side of EK were willing to share. I do hope everything turns out good for everyone involved, that has been wronged, and that everyone that wronged people pays accordingly. Hopefully EK will survive, as it seems like a well rounded product still.

@ConditionsCloudy Ай бұрын

Leo! Absolutely love this interview and your staunch fact-based approach. Thank you so much for putting in all the time and effort to do this. I'm sure this was not an inexpensive endeavor.

@hichamlrazwani9201 Ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@geofftatesmate7748 Ай бұрын

I don’t think we will ever know the truth of this sadly.

@emily_dover Ай бұрын

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@MacBjorn Ай бұрын

It's not easy to run a business without business knowledge and on top of it providing product globally and have to navigate business practices in a foreign country

@Maxverstappenracing-dz3pt Ай бұрын

It’s all so complicated. Hard to follow half of it. 😢

@DrRulRul Ай бұрын

Out of context question: What case is that in the background, and when can I buy it?

@wolfmoon691 Ай бұрын

If you're a employee of a company "WITF" do you have to invoice you're employer to be paid?

@Drunken_Horse Ай бұрын

Depends on what your doing and how your employed. You can work for a company on a self employed basis in which case you usually invoice your employer.

@festerleech4952 Ай бұрын

Most likely self employed contractor.

@Focusbreak-Habeeb Ай бұрын

If you're a contract worker, most of the time it's yes.

@stanemeh155 Ай бұрын

A contractor is also an employee...which means he needs to put out an invoice to get paid.

@phanatic23608 Ай бұрын

They may still be going, but no one will buy from them.

@Kazzman90 Ай бұрын

Man I love Leo’s no nonsense attitude to everything 😂

@lifebidesign Ай бұрын

Too much drama for sure. EKWB it's over

@retrosean199 Ай бұрын

It can't have been easy to do this interview but I'm glad Leo took a crack at it. What comes to mind with this whole scenario is Fremdschämen: vicarious or second-hand embarrassment.

@gotspeed_ Ай бұрын

Seems to be a lot of deflection going on here. I don't believe everything he says, actions speak louder than words. This sounds like he might have learned a bit from the Fanatec challenges and is trying to be a bit more responsive while not really answering the questions or providing clarity on the situation. I still think the truth lies closer to what GN reported and appreciate your work to put EK on notice and in the public eye. I will not buy EK products in the future.

@yelromgnu Ай бұрын

holy shit kitguru and GN tag teaming!

@Naulty Ай бұрын

Great Interview, but holy hell EKWB is a mess and these answers are so short sighted in my opinion

@Ron-sp7lw Ай бұрын

He look and sound's like a bond (007) villan !!!

@darkkingastos4369 Ай бұрын

This man doesn't seem to understand that it's the employer's legal obligation to keep track of and pay overtime. The legal responsibilty isn't on the emplyees to send or reply to emails about how much they are owed. It's the company's legal obligation not the employees.

@Robtang42 Ай бұрын

I feel like there’s still a lot being unsaid from everyone involved and good dose of misunderstanding. However the buck stops with management and they are certainly lacking in that regard.

@Itsameamario-ns3se Ай бұрын

Kitguru said there is more to come so I’mCurious to see what that will be

@ConfusionDistortion Ай бұрын

I should send an email for overtime pay. Just watching this interview feels like unpaid work.

@theduck17 Ай бұрын

I should sign them up for some e-newsletters too...does Optimus have a mailing list? lol

@waitandhope Ай бұрын

Wowwww

@iamahappybunny7640 Ай бұрын

Wish dan Henderson would ask Leo to interview him. He is likely under a lot of litigation and worried.

@cloakofshadow1 Ай бұрын

Steve is the nice cop, Leo's bringing out the phonebook.

@Drunken_Horse Ай бұрын

Steve rushes stories out before getting the full story

@gogopowerrangers6596 Ай бұрын

Not sure the point ? Leo hasn’t taken sides. He has asked questions and lets us form an opinion. Like adults. Unless you just don’t want information at all? Or are unable to watch someone and make your own judgement. Seems a stupid thing to say

@bobsmithson8592 Ай бұрын

Clearly hasn’t watched the videos I have with Steve saying how much he respects Leo. Since when was interviewing someone and letting them dig their own holes bringing out the phonebook. Good interview. I’m fairly certain now I’ll never buy Ekwb.

@titan1983x Ай бұрын

@@Drunken_Horse If you think Steve's story is rushed, you have an IQ lower than freezing point of water or you are shilling for EK. He seemed to have all his ducks in a row for this before it released.

@surft Ай бұрын

@@Drunken_HorseHe covers most of the bases. Otherwise, he would get sued.

@DrBreezeAir Ай бұрын

Leo has done the impossible.

@Everychillitsjustlife-cz8zz Ай бұрын

That everyone is how to do an interview. Let the person talk. And don’t let them get away with trying to avoid an answer.

@powermaster5004 Ай бұрын

He is a difficult man to follow. I love their products but he was smiling and almost as if he wasn’t taking this seriously. Leo asked good questions.

@tabchanzero8229 Ай бұрын

He's smiling to give the appearance that the issues are not that serious. He does take it seriously; "it" being his own image and financial interests. That smile is a facade to hide the serious mental effort to control the narrative and damage.

@powermaster5004 Ай бұрын

Interesting. Hadn’t thought of it like that

@CajunJosh Ай бұрын

I get you the perspective of the interviewer not wanting to burn bridges and go from an interview to an interrogation but on the other hand I don't feel these responses were honest or that enough pressure was placed. You don't get other KZfaq influencers that had six figure contracts coming out saying we are getting the run around on payment and a CEO of a mere 160 person company trying to suggest he had no clue.

@supremeboy Ай бұрын

TLDR, EKWB suffered from covid aftermath of money inflation. That means like a lot companies, interest rates where raised globally and now a lot layoffs because people dont have money for PC luxury watercooling solutions. There probably was late payments that CEO didnt want to say and had to cut down in USA. All in all they hope economy goes back to normal and they will start to grow. Newsflash after HUGE money printing during and after covid we will never go back to normal economy again until this one collapses. EKWB is just another company, that doesnt have risks properly calculated and only focused one small market type in PC industry being very costly.

@amdforlife5591 Ай бұрын

Why was he smiling so much ? Is this like a joke to him ?

@stupiddog79 Ай бұрын

The EK guy? It's what psychopaths do.

@MrDamonLeBeouf Ай бұрын

in all fairness it can be a sign of extreme stress. some people laugh when they're under extreme stress. just the body's response. that said, this interview was NOT good for ek.