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The words you’re looking for are digital vs analog inputs. Digital inputs are either on or off (1 or 0) and analog inputs are a floating point value from 0 to 1. A flip requires an analog directional input above a certain threshold, so holding air roll below that threshold will allow an empty jump.

The funny thing is, I just started learning directional air roll a few days ago, and already started practicing with it on L2. I just chose that button because it didn’t really cause any other changes I needed to make with my button layout. But I was about to change it since nobody else had put it there, and I felt there was something I was missing. This video couldn’t have come out at a better time

Kinda funny how I’ve been watching zen lately and have been so fascinated with his car control and the little movements he does to get the perfect touches. I’m gc2 and still need to work on my car control

I remember you asked about editing styles a while ago and i will say i really like this style where it doesnt focus too much on like bunch of text or show unnatural(?) camera angles. Nice vid

I've figured this out when I noticed that the throttle was also trigger sensitive. It only made sense. I have free roll on LB (L1) with drift and left air roll on left trigger. Since you cant air roll left while driving in reverse. Makes the half flip a little awkward though. --- You can bring your air sensitivity way up and have all speed trigger sensitive.

Great video, you remain my first source of information on RL techniques. You've taught this old fella a lot. Thanks!

i really like this video and editing style. super clean and not distracting while being super informative :D

Be confident in your outro! I follow you because you actively help me get better at the game. I'm not doing you a favor by subscribing, you're providing me with value. Keep up the great work man, love it!

The crazy thing is, everybody already "knew" that when nobody used directional air roll

You can do this mechanic with both air roles using only one trigger. Let me explain, by using the same idea of the directional stall jump shown in the video we can use that same idea to air role. By slightly holding down on the left trigger with air role bound and fully holding down your other air role you can slow down the air role not bound to your trigger.

keep experimenting with the content, than - I like this and look forward to seeing what else you can come out with. keep going man!

Ive never used normal air roll, ive always used right stick for air roll left and right, which gives you the most controll, sacrificed some quickchat bindings for camera controll. Never made sense to me to use normal air roll where you always have to use 2 inputs

It's been more than 6 months i use air roll left on L2 being GC2. It doesnt change a lot the gameplay. It do change a little but way much less than people tend to believe lately. And to focus on Zen he almost doesnt use this low rotation roll thing. Actually in game you just cant hold your L2 button like that, it goes to fast. I dont discourage people learning but it's not as game changer people think. I was GC2 in 2s/3s before, i am still GC2 now, i did not turn to Zen after my switch.

I’ve been doing this since I started to learn air roll the only downside I’ve had with this is sometimes when I go for ceiling shots I’ll hold air roll a little bit to long and end up braking on the ceiling.

Currently a c2 trying to learn aerials and aerial car control this has changed my air control I no longer fat thumb my jump and air roll left bind

I've had my air roll left l2 and right r1 since I first started playing (around a year and a half ago). I thought you guys all did something similar due to how precise your hits are in your videos. Especially for half flips, wave dashes, etc...

YES, I was troubled about losing regular brake in the air because it's good for stabilizing the flip reset. Just realized if both directional air rolls are pressed I can use brake in the air without rolling, I'll have to time it though, but worth it for this.

When I was going to try to learn directional air roll, LT my first choice. It was swiftly abandoned due to my habit of holding reverse for a half flip.

If you watch the cjcj podcast, chicago and torment both said this just wont give enough advantage to be worth relearning. Zen is simply insane, the air roll doesnt boost that

I know that this is about directional air roll but if you use the normal air roll where you are adjusting with the stick while holding the air roll button, you can do the same thing, just push the stick slightly into the direction you wanna go and you have the exact same thing with even more freedome since you are not bound to left or right only. For example, i use an xbox controller, have my drift/powerslide on LB and also normal air roll on LB so i can powerslide, jump and instantly start air rolling with maximum precision. Air roll right is bound to RB.

Im glad you brought up this point. Ive had airoll binded on L2 for the whole time ive played rocket league (started in May 2022 had a LOT of breaks) and ive always thought that anyone would be able to do this with any binding. If you want to change now as it will take A LOT if time to get used to new bindings

Thing is I’ve been doing this ever since I started playing rocket league and I always had problems air rolling and hitting the ball in the past but as I move up in the ranks I can see the importance of it because I have more control over my car while in the air. I also did recently start tapping my trigger and it has significantly improved my air roll control and timing.

personally speaking, i have had rl since 2016 and i’m an xbox og. ive had this setting since probably early 2017 after seeing fluump talk abt the tornado spin in a video. from the start in 2017 i used LT or L2 as my air roll. so i have over 5 years experience using the trigger air roll (i will prove this if i need to.) the trigger air roll makes learning directional air roll way easier, i was a gold/plat around then and i learned exceptionally good car control for my rank really fast. i have well over 2k hours into the game now and all the concerns about half flipping, don’t bind directional left to your left trigger. i have my right air roll on my left trigger, i don’t know why i chose to do this but it makes half flipping still possible and i don’t doubt if you bound air roll left to RT or R2, that you could do the same thing. dynamic air roll is really useful and makes learning aerial car control MILES easier. i’m surprised it took that long for people to realize that triggers are dynamic inputs, i mean it’s literally apart of rl. if you hold your trigger down half way, you get half throttle. same thing for air rolling, and since braking/gas doesn’t have much effect in the air outside of recoveries.

I changed the binds like 2 weeks ago, and I npticed 2 problems, first is half flips, having air roll left on the same button as reverse makes it so that when you try and flip backwards it gets all weird, and second is when you have to jump backwards to get a save, it messes the fast aerial a lot, the way I see to solve these is holding the free air roll button (for me is L1) as you jump, this cancels the directional air roll. Although they have easy solutions, it makes it that you need more time to get use to the new bindings

Awesome! I just have one issue with this. It effects my half flips on the ground.

I've always had my air roll left bound to LT and I've never noticed this... Ty

@Thanovic. I know that gas and brake effect flip reset touches. Might be worth noting going through the process of learning this new bind.

you can use the wooting keyboard on kbm

This works the same for normal air roll bound to L3. Normal airroll speed is based on where that stick is anyway.

Wow! … just wow. Thank you Thanovic for sharing! Awesome 🙏👊

My platinum mind was blown by this Discovery. I had no ideas that was even possible

But then again you could just switch to regular air roll just when you'r about to hit the ball. You would get the same effect.

I've been using ARL/ARR on right stick for over a year, and all the benefit you described are absolutely worth it. Best use case for AR + jump at the same time is when dropping of the wall to down-flip to the ground faster, also for micro adjustments when tornado spinning off the ground. It's also important to note that it is the analog value of the input that determines whether or not you flip when dodging, and not the rotational speed of the car. The dodge occurs at roughly 50% of max analog input (based on my settings), which is about half of the max roll speed when sensitivity is set to default. If you increase aerial sensitivity to let's say 10 (max), your car reaches full roll speed before hitting that 50% threshold, and can dodge w/o flipping while rotating at full speed. IMO the tradeoff isn't worth it as i like to have a wider input range and am also old and slow, but for a pro it would be worth to increase sens so that full rotational speed correlates with the dodge-flip threshold.

@Thanovic. The switch to L2 air roll is a game changer. You have so much mor control of your car/ball by being able to “feather” air roll. You 100p need to make the switch bc once this goes viral everyone will want to know how to do it

Funnily enough this is how i set my right air roll after swapping out from a xbox pro controller to a gulikit. I used to have my rolls on the back pedals but since the gulikit controller doesn't have those the L2 seemed the most natural to swap to since i already had a muscle memory of rolling with the buttons on the back of a controller. And yeah the control difference for 1st touches this makes it insane even tho it can be a hassle to get used to

Is there a concern about reversing while doing an aerial? I was talking to Leumy once and he said that holding drive/reverse could mess up flip resets.

this was literally the only bind that made sense for me when i started learning air roll, also tapping reverse off the wall/ceiling into an aerial can help a lot

@Thanovic I just rebinded my air roll cause I watched spookluke for the first time…. Smh, here we go again. Imma do it though cause having dynamic control will be hugeeeee. Ty for the video explaining it! ❤

I think u gotta make a settings video again 😂 I am aware that you have done this recently but i beg of you to remake it with yout new bindings

Was actually looking into how Zen uses directional air roll and this video popped up 😅

I want to point out a slight issue which is that since most people including me have reverse binded to the left trigger (controller) and if we bind this air roll as the left trigger also when you reverse to back flip you car does a weird backwards diagonal flip, anyone have a suggestion around this?

This makes a lot of sense from when I would throw random variation air roll on bakkesmod for the ring maps. Feels so weird remapping it I'm instinctually pressing square

great video! any ideas for halfflip? having driving backwards and airroll will mess up the halfflip

So I've been using air roll left on LT(L2) for over a year now cause my LB(L1) button is broken, and for those that have trouble with half flips, the key for me is not to reverse while jumping but only while still on the ground and hold the the left stick back and half flip normal, takes a little time to get used to it but it feels natural after a little while. P.S Thank you Thanovic for making this vid this just affirmed I've been using air roll correctly and don't need a new controller haha

This is actually possible on kbm through analogue keyboards such as the wooting 60he. This could actually be an advantage to kbm players because any or all buttons can be analogue.

damn that makes a lot of sense, glad it wasn't clickbait in the end I'm going to try this out!

I had personally experimented with having air roll bound to my right stick for this reason, but obviously missed having the camera control. I never thought to put it on a trigger.

There are very slight increases/decreases in momentum when holding throttle/brake while in the air. If you just jump and hold brake you will noticeably go backward. Vice versa if you hold throttle. So if you are switching to this setup, keep that in mind bc you may feel slower/faster and it's not a placebo. Also, it's not ideal to be throttling while going for resets, so keep that in mind if you are using RT/R2 for directional air roll and trying to get resets

I actually tried this a few months ago because I was trying to find a way to bind both air rolls without losing buttons Wrote it off in the end as I thought the loss/variations in speed (braking in the air DOES slow you down) plus all new muscle memory to learn would hinder more than help turns out I'm just not good enough lol

I'm amazed I never considered this or heard anyone mention it before...makes a lot of sense

I am currently learning to also trying to air roll and mastering it, this video came at the best time, Awesome Tip.

To truly unlock the full potential Psyonix just needs to add a shift button. L2 can be left roll while holding square and L2 is right roll

i almost never comment anywhere but i just gotta say. your mindset is an inspiration. always lookin where U can improve, not focusing on others. also i like people not being afraid of making mistakes and standing up to them too. just know Mr.Thanovic...u impacted my life alot, aside from rocket league and i dont even watch ur streams. this channel is amazing and i hope to see content from u 4 a long time 2 come :D

oh thats cool, I'm currently learning directional air roll when flying so good to know I chose the right controls

I like how you just figuring this out I’ve had L2 as air roll left and L1 as air roll right and left stick clicked in as directional air roll and x and drift 💪 best binds guys.

My solution for air roll (which also gives full variable input) has been to have air roll left and right bound to right thumb stick left and right (along with some creative binds so that I never have to use the four face buttons at all), so all flight control is done using both thumb sticks.

after everyone zen has beaten, and his overall performance. can we just agree that he’s the best player in the world?

I'm GC and used to have air roll left bound to L2 for a few months, but I truly DON'T think there is an advantage to having it there. Normal air roll overrides directional air roll, so you can just use that when you need to make a tiny adjustment, this is what all the pros currently do. BUT there are certain important disadvantages to having directional on L2: 1. Holding reverse in air SLOWS you down. Thus, you have to use more boost to reach balls. The only way to counteract this is to also hold R2 while you're in the air, but even then it will bring you to neutral momentum. If you hold R2 in air without L2 you actually move forward slightly. 2. It makes half flips, landing backwards, and all things reverse, much more clunky. You can basically ONLY hold reverse when you're on the ground. Never even slightly before or slightly after, or the air roll will mess you up. It takes a lot of getting used to. If you hold normal air roll at the same time as L2, it will cancel the directional, then you can hold mid-air or when half flipping and avoid the air roll mess up. I have watched tons of Zen clips, but I have never found an instance where he was obviously the fine tuned air roll it as mentioned in this video. He seems to only mash the button down and get the full rate of spin. For me, the slow-down in air, half flips, recoveries, reversing, etc, was too impacted by this and I had to change back to the standard App Jack/ Thanovic controls of square and circle, while using normal air roll for other adjustments. I think in the end there is a greater competitive advantage to the standard controls.

I only use default airroll, u have the same effect while moving the Joystick just slightly. But i think AR left ord AR right bounded is better for mechanics. I just dont wanna restart my learning curve with airroll tbh xD

I personally use the air roll right/left on l1 and r1 combo, with powerslide also bound to those two binds. Might try putting them on l2 and r2 since analog inputs aren’t so important for driving.

5:20 the keyboard and mouse part piqued my interest. Im pretty sure the the wooting keyboards have analogue switches, meaning that dynamic input is possible on KBM

I think im sticking to my settings. Theres still overall improvement to mate that isnt restricted by current settings

If anyones gonna bind it to one of the triggers then bind it to L1 or whatever u brake with. U dont wanna be holding air roll/accelerate while u get a reset because then the ball doesn't stay as close as it does when braking. Minor but since ur putting emphasis on it helping the first touch then u might aswell think bout resets aswell.

My left bumper broke (my arr bind) and so I experimented and found that putting my reverse on X(Xbox controller) worked best for me and airoll right on left trigger, so I just need to learn how to do this!

I use the same arrow button layout that you use, so my question to you is, are you going to permantly be making the switch?

What a coincidence, I was going through my rocket league playlist yesterday and watched a video that mentioned you can use analog air roll so I looked up and watched a video on it and it was actually posted 10 days ago. He also mentioned that zen uses L2 for air roll. I was thinking about switching to those controls but figured it messing with my half flips, recoveries, and air speed wasn't worth it but apparently you can negate it somewhat by increasing aerial sense but idk if that is worth it either. I figure tapping DAR will be almost the same with little less control.

Ive had air roll left on L2 for quite a while but never noticed this, gonna have to try it out

been using l2/r2 as my airrolls for years, now i got a video to link the next person who tells me i should use square or some other crap :) came in expecting i was gonna have a legit reason to change my binds not be told im all good

I'd thought about this before but just assumed it wouldn't work on a gradient because nobody was ever talking about it in the different air roll tutorials I watched!

Lol, I'm a GC3 and I have never used normal air roll. I started with having my air rolls on L2 & R2, but for 2 years now have switched to using my right stick for it. Most intuitive controls I have ever used, and analog as well!

I switched my left Air Roll to L2 about a 2 weeks ago, at first I thought it was a placebo effect, but the improvement in my air control was pretty much instantaneous, of course I I already have more than 1000 hours of gameplay so I already understand a little about controlling the car to reach the ball, But my "first" touches on the ball are much more consistent, the fit in the car seems to make more sense now as the movement is smooth, At first I had difficulty with Half Flips, but I managed to get used to it.

Nice. On this setup since 2019 and I remember the new binds struggle. Glad I dont need to worry about that. I run L2 directional air roll + Power slide. Air roll right R1. Directional air roll on L2 makes it easier for wave dashes and awkward recoveries and resets.

I am using the right analog stick for air roll left and right, RT for drive forward RB for drift, LT for boost, LB for jump. Drive backwards on right analog down.

You can also bind air roll to the right stick (both left and right) Then you dont have the 4 buttons on the right, but you can just bind jump to l1, bind power slide to pressing down the right stick and bind camera change to pressing down the left stick so you dont need those buttons anymore

Changing my binds when i get home. I thought i had the best binds using my right ring finger as R2, middle finger for R1 and pointer finger for triangle. This grip gives an extra input no matter what you bind to which button. R1 and L1 have been my roll left and right making adjustments easy and accessible. I will flop them down to L2 and R1 being an easy change yet even more dynamic.

L2 air roll is nuts. I've had a massive skill change just off this switch. Couldnt even get into posituon for a reset before and now i'm able to somewhat consistently double and sometimes triple reset. Get a decent position on the ball with air roll left and then let l2 air roll do the reset. Its awesome

I personally have air roll left and right bound to my right stick. Had it this way for a long time. This has it's downsides and caveats for sure, but it just feels really nice and comfy and I don't think I'd ever want to go back. Obvious caveats though is that it means look left and right have to be on buttons instead of analog controls which can be an issue for sure. That said direction looks I find are mostly used for quick peaks which is perfectly doable with the right camera speed settings. Also I find 95% of the time toggling ball cam on and off is all that's needed for camera controls. Other awkwardness is the look up and down on the same stick as air roll, however I never found much issues with it as I'm never using look up and down at the same time as air roll and the very minor camera tilts if not perfectly moving the stick left or right aren't noticeable, particularly with ball cam on. Really though at the end of the day, air roll on right stick just feels good to me and game feel is a big reason why I love Rocket League.

1500 hours in this game, just rebound air roll left to L2. Had to flip my boost and handbrake bindings to make it make sense and my ground control is back to bronze. Slow air rolling is so sick though.

New discovery??!!! Bruhh ive been playing w my airroll like that for 2 years and i didnt think nobody knew abt this :,))

I've been only using standard air roll and have been looking to implement a directional one.... When using it on L1 or R1 I find it really hard to control. Just switching to a trigger has instantly improved my control and I can't even explain it

Thanks so much Thanovic for this very useful info. Cheers!!!

I haven't heard anyone talk about the disadvantages of having a direction air roll on L2 yet. At this point in the meta Zen lands flat smooth and fast, at a level above almost all other players. However while he uses a single direction air roll on the same key as his break, it means he has trouble landing hard smooth and level. With an increase in prejumps, turns into and out of wave dashes, keeping control and staying smooth while landing hard, it is likely to be a more important style of movement Pressing brake shifts the cars momentum backwards slightly and this is also a extra slight bit of stability zen takes advantage of, Jstn used to use it a fair bit. This can be a drawback in some manner to potential power through the ball and flow of movement, although its not as impactful as the prior drawback. He's the best atm but depending on how the meta and other player progress there's a chance he'll be overshadowed in these aspects of the game given his binds. Not close to prevalent yet but watching his gameplay, there are also limitations.

5:21 I wonder what would happen if a keyboard player tried Wooting's analog input, since you map it to what you want. Left stick, right stick, or L2/R2

Hmm, very excited to try this tomorrow, maybe this will be the next step to push me past gc2

Ive always had my air roll on left trigger but I use regular air roll, so I can control how much anyway with my stick. Ive always felt like regular air roll and directional is the same except with regular air roll you release the air roll button instead of releasing analog stick.

I tried this out myself to see how well I would perform using this new way to air roll and I must say I felt much more control and felt as if I was getting to the ball faster in the air (tbh i prolly was). I felt very fast and speedy and I think it is amazing for consistency. The only thing I felt was lacking was the consistency to do stalls. Stalls aren't important for actual ranking up and winning games but can be useful for hitting those clips and other free styling involving chained resets. I'm sure I could learn how to perfect them with the new controls but it seemed a lot harder to learn stalls than other mechanics I had already known how to do. Note that my default air rolls are on my bumpers so my fingers were kinda already in the normal spot

All fine and dandy but where do i bind the accelerate and reverse buttons if i dont have my triggers anymore available?

I've been playing since 2015 and my air roll left and right are bound to L2 and R2 ever since I learned that directional air roll is a thing

i wanna try this but the thing im not sure about is what i assign to X/Square to fill that gap or if i just leave it empty

Realistically you won't ever need that but cool info, also pretty weird seeing cars spinning slowly xd

I have my air roll left/right on x and o. I have my free air roll on LB along with power slide. I also moved my boost to RB..

Love your content bro!!!

But is there any side effects to this like for example having to release throttle to start the jump so you don't roll when you jump etc? Also do you bind air roll left to left trigger and air roll right to right trigger ?

I have a question how do your half flip tho if your air roll is on reverse as you can flip backwards whilst holding air roll left

Been using the right thumbstick ever since I started playing the game. Wild how people never trial, error, and discover things themselves. Reminds me of the time the internet lost it's mind because everyone learnt that putting toilet paper in the bowl before sitting down prevents backsplash. Baffling people don't figure that out themselves as kids.

It surprises me that this comes as... a surprise, to so many people - I thought the default binding (for controller) was on trigger + thumbstick for air roll, which might not be the best for landing and control always, but its a dynamic input that allows you to move slower and slighter, more precisely, by default. But yeah, for keyboard and mouse players, unless you have a Wooting keyboard with dynamic inputs, you're stuck to full on 0 / 1 input and have to adjust. I've struggled to find a comfortable rebinding for air roll and drift to synergise nicely because I don't like the analog (0/1) air roll binds FOR this reason, which is why I stuck to default of trigger release air roll and thumbstick for control. But I might try setting it to a dynamic button for left / right rather than just air roll release, and see how it pans out with landing control.

Its going to be tuff to get use to though. Since I have left trigger bound to reverse and my air roll right bound to my left bumper.

about the keyboard disadvantage, there is a keyboard that many trackmania players use which allows the switches on the keyboard act exactly like the L2 switches on a controller. It's not a 1-to-1 input but rather a dynamic input. ig we still are at an advantage after considering finances though.

Is there any way to bind jump and dodge to different buttons? This would completely eliminate accidental dodges or empty jumps