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First of all Z650rs is overpriced. Looks nice but shouldn't be over 8k. Cfmoto is just going to get bigger. New riders are going to get a 300nk/450nk/450ss as a beginner bike have a good experience and stay in the cfmoto ecosystem. The Big 4 need to open their eyes

I own a 2023 CFMoto 450ss. It’s my first bike. Sometimes I’ll just go in my garage just to look at it because it’s that cool looking.

On the speed question I assume the average motorcycle owner isn’t really interested in massive speeding tickets or running from the police. “Oh no! My bike can only go 110 MPH!!”

Enfield also knows the "build it cool looking and affordable" I understand it's working well for them hehe

I picked up an 800nk for me and a 300nk for my wife a couple weeks ago. One of the best purchases ive made. Less then 13k for 2 bikes, both are a blast to ride and seem as well put together as any of my japanese bikes have been.

As someone looking in to grabbing a smaller displacement "fun bike" the Zx4-RR is extremely attractive...but that price is painful. If the 500SR sits at a nicer price point, I'd be disgustingly tempted to pick one up. (Assuming they even make it to the US)

Looks like West Taiwan is starting to make some pretty interesting bikes

You hit the nail on the head. Let’s be realistic. The A2 restriction much as I loathe the idea of restrictions in general is well thought out. 48 hp is more than enough to get a bike up to speed and break every speed limit in the country. The Honda 500 CC parallel twin engine is widely panned as one of the least exciting engines available in the small displacement market. As the owner of a CB 500 X I can attest that that statement is 100% accurate. Regardless, even with my 300 pound when fully geared ass on it, the bike easily hits 90 miles an hour according to the GPS. As riders we don’t actually need 100+ horsepower bikes. I own three of them, but I don’t kid myself that those bikes need 100 hp. Although it certainly does help the Goldwing get out of its own way at 900 pounds. For the majority of riders, just looking to get out on two wheels and have a good time with a bike that looks nice and has a reasonable degree of modern technology, the current offerings from the big four are actually pretty awful. Seriously why do I need to pay $15,000 to get into a bike with cruise control? The CLX 700 has cruise standard and you can buy last year‘s model all day long for 4500 bucks (5500 bucks out the door with all the dealer fees) I’m an old man so I could give a shit about phone integration, but I understand that people under the age of 50 do care about that kind of thing and all of CF Moto lineup offers it . Were I in the market for a new bike I have a really hard time, not walking into the nearest CF Moto dealership and giving them my money.

450srs owner here and its been amazing ever since i got it 😊

I was certainly skeptical in 2022 when I bought my first CFMOTO. After two years of ownership, I'm convinced. CFMOTO is here to stay and its market share will increase for the reasons you stated in your video. CFMOTO makes an excellent product at a value price. There will be other CFMOTOS in my future.

Wanna see that 450 motor in a supermoto next.

That's a nice Beau of the Column shout out

I really like this new format and I look forward to more videos like it

I can't believe CF Moto is the first to come up with those intake-style halos on a bike.

I am on my second CFMoto bike. The problem I have with CFMOTO is that as soon as I get a cool bike they bring out something cooler 😮 Looks like I will need to stay with them for a while now.

Spite, I bought a new CF Moto 650 Adventura two years ago. I have rolled up 25K miles on it. I'm on my third chain, 2nd set of sprockets, and my 3rd set of tires. It's a Timex.

CFMoto is the Hyundai of the 2 wheel world. When you can’t rest on your laurels, you have to make cool stuff to be competitive.

The style of the video was nice I like the format and definitely the length you got straight to the point thank you for that

CFMOTO has finally arrived. Just bought a 450MT and loving it.

new fun news segments woo! i like. motorcycle gossip is always fun. so many people looked at the CF Moto papio design and begged for a full size version of it and CFMoto listened! they're listening to their consumers they're making those changes they're building the things that people want and they're not resting on their reputation to sell their motorcycles they're building cool shit and selling it because it's cool.

I like this style of video! Nice, condensed, straight to the point. Good b-roll placement too. Good work mr Spite

Many times, less is more. Thanks for one of the best videos you've made in a long time. Happy 4th!

My thoughts are the video was nice, fast paced, engaging I’ts nice to see what your channel has become. Keep going ❤

Kawasackie.. bro

Think you nailed it. The euro and japanese makers think low cc = budget model. People have been screaming for an updated drz400 or a wr400r from Yamaha. Instead Suzuki updated the vstrom 650 to a 800 and doubled the price 🤦‍♂️

Love this. I ride a 24 MT09 but also just bought a papio SS and the thing makes me giggle every time I ride it. Gets so many looks on the road

I feel like CF Moto is doing the same thing that Honda did early on, but they are doing it faster. That 500SR is going places. (Maybe even my garage)

I guess the question is how much child labor was used?

Love my Ibex!!! Wanted a Triumph Tiger but have everything I want in the Ibex and save like $8k

CFMOTO from the looks of it is taking shots to the bow of the Big 4. Between the 500SR and 675SR-R there's one company they seem to have direct aim at, Kawasaki. Love the format by the way. Sometimes it's nice to have a sit down chat.

Spite, love your content. I would recommend a way to ground your camera/audio setup to prevent the static noise.

My wife has been riding a CFMoto 650NK for a few years now, and that bike has been great. It talked me into getting my 800NK when it was released. They're really good bikes so far.

I had a 700CL-X Heritage, and now have an 800NK Advanced (we get the upgraded model here in Australia) in my garage, alongside a VT750C Shadow. Been very happy with both CFMotos, despite 20 years of owning Japanese bikes. If they bring the 500SR over here, I'd seriously consider one as a commuter. Doubly so if they bring out a larger capacity version of it.

I has a face that makes it look like it goes "AHHHHHH" as you drive by. I can't stop seeing this, haha.

Cfmoto also have a cruiser with the 450 engine, the clc 450. Belt drive, usd fork, comes with bar end mirrors from factory, dual exhaust that sounds *chef’s kiss*.

The old saying of "Fast, Cheap, Quality - Pick 2" , CFMOTO is saying hold my beer.

My first bike was a Kawasaki Z250, and for community and town riding you don’t really need anything bigger. That Zoom looks fresh.

Lovely! Reminds me of my old GSXR400RR. Those days the 400cc supersports were literally downsized replicas of the 750 supersports. The trouble with these inline 4 pocket rockets was that there was absolutely nothing below 6000rpm, you had to keep the engine on the boil all the time. Plenty fun though.

If this voom engine is anything like the ZX-4RR it's definitely not underpowered. They have over 70hp that's about the same as the CP2 engines from Yamaha, but they deliver it in the higher rev range. I absolutely loved the ZX-4RR. Awesome bike, the Voom is similar but with cooler design.

When the dealer network is fleshed out, and if the reliability is high, they'll sell a ton of bikes. They see the hole in the market they can fill. Love the intro, caught the reference!

A 500 four is a good idea, lots of smooth hp.

After months of research for best bang for buck i went to get a 450ss as a first bike, I saw a clx 700 and fell in love and got it! 4 months and 2,000 miles later i feel like i couldn't have made a better choice for the under 5k price!

Bro, I will re-live my days with a Genesis 600 with this bike 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 Isn’t it absolutely awesome?

Like the Grisso more then the glasses. And that even rhymes! 😁

I agree with you that others in the industry ignore CFmoto (and a few other Chinese manufacturers) at their peril. I was considering a CFmoto nk450 and Ninja 400, but ended up going with a lightly used QJ srkr550 (aka Benellie Tornado 552R). While at first I was not completely happy with it, I did some minor adjustments and got the rear shock preload adjusted to my weight (220 lbs/100Kg), adjusted the clutch free play and lever position and removed the giant crash bars the previous owner put on for some more reasonable (smaller) drop bars. Now I’m very satisfied with the motorcycle. I got 60 hp, dual disk front brakes 270 crank, KYB (semi- adjustable) suspension for a lot less than a Ninja 400 and the same price was an nk450 in this market. While some minor adjustment (not repair) was needed, if you can buy a bike from a reputable dealer in your area that can access parts and take care of any small issues/adjustment, than I think a brand like CFmoto represents really good value. If there are no dealers or a way to get parts (if you’re handy at wrenching) then I would still go with a more established brand. At the very least, the traditional players have to watch their game to make sure they stay competitive.

Awesome comparison 👍 I knew a lil wee bit about the cf moto’s and the advertising push , but there is quite an exceptional value in these various 2 wheeled machines , but it’s good to see that they are not completely junky ❤❤❤

First time I came across your channel and I liked it. Short to the point and no BS, so I subscribed. I drive bikes for more than fifty years and yes they are too expensive, I don't pay more than 10.000 euro for a bike. Now I am looking at the new Triumph Speed 400 or the CFMoto NK450 or one of Voge.

Living in Greece with way shorter commutes than almost anywhere else in the world, it actually makes more sense to get a smaller (under 900cc) bike and with that in mind I am all for getting a CFmoto which is much cheaper that the rest. Currently got my eyes on a 450 MT but that 500SR is a beauty.

I own a CFmoto 650GT and let me tell you: I'm very happy with my purchase ❤, I love that bike. Yes, it's a bit heavy to daily it but that's a bonus when when you're on the open road and it's also not that fast (fully loaded it will do 180kmh/111mph, without top case and bags 200kmh/124mph) but I wasn't looking for a super fast bike anyway! I wanted a mid-cc that I could daily, looked cool and that I could take for long rides comfortably! ...and I got it $60K MXN ($3,300-ish USD) cheaper than a Versys 650!!

the white/gold version looks great

I bought a brand new 2022 300nk as my first bike. The bike was good for a learner, but when I was looking at upgrading, it got a gremlin in the ecu. It would shut off when I came to a complete stop. The shop replaced the ecu under warranty but it still took two months. I may have had a lemon. I have a cbr600rr now, but the km's are getting a little high, I'm keen to see what the new 675sr will be like and get that new bike feeling again.

The styling on the Voom is awesome. It genuinely looks like a custom build. I just wish it was smaller capacity to keep the weight down so that flickability matches the looks.

Over 2k miles on a 450ss by my son. He still loves it and it out performed the ninja400 for less money.

If they made a 100 Hp version of it it'd be at the top of my list. Such a cool looking bike.

Love the headlights

I really like the style of the 500 voom. Another reason to consider this bike, is hp/ weight ratio. For some particular situation, I have been riding a small 250 machine, ínstead of my other 1200 cc bikes. And even I miss the big power, the light bike makes me feel very secure, and in heavy traffic it’s the way to go. So maybe this new 4 cilínder 500, will have the best of both worlds

Very solid market analysis.

So I own a 2022 Yamaha XTZ690 (Tenere 700). I have taken this bike to hell and back including 500 mile road trips, Enduro single track and mud work. I even sunk it in a small lake and had to drain the cylinders of water, it still started and I rode it home. So with all that in mind, my biggest concern with brands like CF Moto is are they reliable and rugged? Can I trust that it'll not only get me out there but also take me home?

An inline-four, 500 cc bike...I'm interested.

I have never preferred the look of multiple exhaust outlets before, but dam does the dual exhaust look nice on that bike

I kept saying they had to release a bigger papio maybe even just a 250/300cc. They actually went and did it...... Now I actually have a reason to go for a bigger cc license.

CF Moto been on my radar since they brought the 300ss to the states. Im still heavily considering buying a 450ss as my first sport bike. It looks cool as heck, has great specs and tech and a pretty reasonable price. Oh and if i get one ill definitely be switching to the GP shifting mode.

I do appreciate this conversational style video. I do agree that CF Moto bike looks interesting, and yes, we all don't want to spend ridiculous amounts of money on a bike. T-700 is a nice sweet spot for me

If this thing is equal to or cheaper than the Kawa this needs to come stateside

I wouldn't have purchased my bike/a bike if the price were over ten thousand out the door. The fact that I got my bike for under eight thousand out the door makes me have zero regrets. I got the clx sport and I love it.

Oh man I hope they put that engine in some other frames. That engine on a Kawasaki style "Z" frame, especially an RS and I am IN!

They really missed the chance to call it ”Vroom”!

hello spike, I think it's nice to have companies like CF MOTO that give a breath of freshness to motorcycles and not stick to one shape because then production is cheaper which, as you mentioned in the video, doesn't necessarily translate into price. Over the last few years, only KTM has been different than everyone else, and recently they joined it suzuki work the sharper features . I believe that CF MOTO, with its apricots and prices, will attract the attention of many motorcyclists who will want to have their motorcycle. 😎🤜🤛

Voom is a dumb name but maybe it’s the Roman numeral “V” for 500M? Kinda missed opportunity!

I know the Adventura uses the Kawasaki 650 based motor. But I thought the CL bikes used a KTM based motor. Part of the reasoning is that they have cruise control which is not on the Kawasaki or the Adventura because they don't have throttle by wire.

Beau of the fifth column is a good influence. :-)

As a ninja 400 owner, can’t wait for CF Moto 450 MT to arrive. My wish was always to have a Versys with a little bit more power than the current 300’s. KLR’s single would be hard for my 80% freeway rides. Just need a comfortable, simple, cheap to mantain but keeping some fun into the mix. Used to own also the CBR 600F4i back in the days! Now rather keep my temptations to ride too fast at bay.

To put the value in to perspective in the market I live in, a CFmoto NK800 is the same price as a Ninja Z400. This will not be the case in other places in the world, but for me it makes the Chinese motorcycles hard to ignore.

I've been skeptical of CFMoto but the 500 SR Voom is too nice to ignore. I want that bike so bad.

There is a disconnect between what the customer thinks a motorcycle should cost and reality. Customers never want to spend their money, which is fine, but companies also need to make profits. It's a struggle as old as time. There is a longer explanation but the basic idea is that innovation comes at a cost, copying is cheaper. The market needs both. Kawasaki does not make money on their new motorcycle sales. They don't make much off of service or parts. Honda and Susuki are in the same situation. Look at these companies public earnings reports. Most of the money is in financing, followed by service, followed by parts. Used bikes are more profitable than new ones. They are trying to just not lose money when they sell a new motorcycle while hoping you come back for oil changes. That is the reality of the market for decades.

Considering in my area you can get left over CFMoto 650/700's for $3999 I think I'd want to wait to see what end of the year prices were on any of their models before risking taking a major hit on resale values.

I love cf moto …want the little cruiser the clc coming out and this too

Spite out here doing Gods work 🙏

It's outrageous that all main manufacturers only seem to target horsepower when making new bikes, they increase capacity to keep getting gains in spite of the increased restrictions (like bikes that in most European countries can be used only half a year at best will produce a lot of pollution) and consequently increase price to keep getting a profit.

Spite as your biggest shortest fan(I’m 5’4) who bought a 23 Sportster S and might trade it in for a Pan Am, a 22 Superduke(I totaled her), a 23 Z H2 SE, a 17 Enduro R and my lil mini Benny tnt135, drop a solid review and I’ll get one!

First off, love the Beau intro. But I did vote $10-13k in that poll. For me it’s the bikes that come equipped with what I want without sacrificing anything. I’d gladly spend what I bought my 21’ MT-09 for $9.5k for the MT-07 if it had they same suspension and brakes, slipper clutch, and upgraded swing arm with rear link for the shock. Maybe closer to 100hp to keep up with its competitors. While I do enjoy the electronic suite on my MT-09 I don’t need it with an MT-07 so they can go back to their previous lcd dash, no need for dbw w/ bi-directional qs. Just give me enough to ride it sporty in the mountains as a heavier human. The closest thing to that is the 790 with upgraded WP suspension which I’m pretty sure is as or more expensive than the current MT-09 that has everything as the 990, although that 990 really has my attention if I could trust the engine

CF Moto is putting all the other manufacturers on notice. I suspect the 450 MT is going to dominate, and the Voom is going to reignite the 4 cylinder small displacement class.

I ride a Svartpilen401 and I agree, I choose this bike because it's looks cool more than cold raisoning ^^ The Voom (very bad name though, ridicule) caught my eye, sadly I dont have a dealership in Toulouse - France, so I can't test it and have a trusted place for maintenance

Waiting for the 450mt, big 4 are really missing out on the smaller displacement ADV segment. CFmoto are really hitting hard.

looking for a second bike for me and at the same time something my girlfriend could comfortably ride. And when comparing prices and specs, CF Moto is hard for me to ignore. I even like the design and sitting on a few they didn´t feel any cheaper than my MT07. And as you said, the 500SR looks really cool. It´s gonna be a blast to ride I bet :D

I like spite's take on cfmoto and hes done a quite a research about it. Not all bike influencers know that cfmoto uses some parts(specially the engine) from japanese brands. He did not hate but he talks practicality specially the price. Compared to Yam. Yam feel like hes a chinese brand hater sensing from his previous content Also im a 700clx owner for most 3 years. So far no issues. And i am waiting for voom and other bikes (specially the beef up 450mt which is 800mt-x and their inline 3 sports bike)

had the clx heritage 700 put almost 10 thousand miles no problems other than cruse control intermitting / i now own the nk800 and have a little under 4 thousand miles no problems .. great bikes for the poor man .

One small correction ( I think) the Ninja 500 is a stroked 400, not bored.

Folks my Dad's age said the same thing about Japanese bikes as people are saying about these bikes now, it'll pass. I really like the look of the 500SR, and I'll be interested to see what they do with the 675 and 1290 motors they're supposedly working with.

yeah CF Moto is clearly of a different breed then any other other chinese motorcycle maker. This is the first chinese company that is super serious about making good bikes and is bringing the heat to other manufacturers that have been withholding features that cost them nothing on their lower end bikes. I find it hard to believe that they sell any of these for a profit (like any other large chinese firm), but I just hope they push other brands to do better.

People are working on a budget from 1995 for the 2024 market. People, mainly new riders can’t throw 10k+ at a “luxury “ vehicle, unless you are in the southern most part of the state line. I’d love a rebel 500, but I can’t justify its price for a temporary ride til I grow out of it. Picked up a 2004 buell blast for 960$, all it needed was a battery and belt. Fun little bike til the forks on my Harley is completed

It's important to make the distinction between the US market & the rest of the world. There are LOTS of smaller, cheaper & COOL bikes that never make it to the US market. Makers like CFMoto may force that to change just like the small, cheap bikes from Japan forced huge changes on the big names of the motorcycle world in the 1960s.

Is it not VOOM for the roman numeral V for 5, so it's 'said' 500m ?

It looks like a KTM. Oh, wait 😂

Doesn't seem like CF Moto is planning on bringing the 500 SR to the US which is unfortunate because this seems like the perfect time to bring back that retro styling in sports bikes and I feel like everyone including me have been asking for a 4 cylinder to rev the heck out of especially since Fortnine's video on the Honda CB-250 RR

It’s happening with smaller 450 bikes with Kove and CFMoto. For ages the bigger manufacturers seem to have ignored rally style 450 for a affordable price. Competition is coming

Honda's 500 Interceptor was a great bike, and this bike has similar specs. I wonder if the geometry is the same. The patents have expired so you'd only need to design new plastics.

My 2009 Aprilia Tuono Factory only cost me 6k and was in better than new condition.

I REALLY REALLY REALLY like the Voom!!! The retro front end, the stubby little tail and the dual, beside the tail?, exhaust looks moto GP'ish....what a great little bike!!!