I always wondered if Dooku was so indifferent to the Jedi and its direction why he didn't separate himself from the order and create his own?

a dehumidifier might be able to help with that manly condensation.. 🙂 great video again man - always appreciate the insight. I usually don't have the channels etc that these shows are broadcast over (i.e. disney produced content) and so my only points of reference to and/or understanding of these shows comes through watching content produced by just a handful of folks like you. So again, the thought you put into your videos is very welcome, and in particular that pertaining to your relating in universe material/lessons etc to the real world. As always, keep up the good work and hang in there.

its called comfort viewing

Its California

no no WE DID NOT, he is still a lying back stabbing two face pure evil prick, yes this show shows him how they should always has, but do not change his dumb story in clone wars

Well said

That would be cool Too bad star wsrs doesn’t do alternate timelines to see it

@@omegon2540 they used to in the Parallels comics

I think that anakin himself would have kept dooku from turning. After all it was qui gons last request for anakin to be trained I think that dooku would have done this to honor qui gon, and in the end not only be the perfect master for anakin but also remain a part of the light side because of it.

Sorry, but the CIS was his brainchild. He believed in a complete revolution. He was the one who started it, propagandized against the feckless and corrupt Republic, and ultimately led the charge headfirst into a revolutionary war against a stale and stagnant 2,000 year old system. He hated the Republic, and he resented the Jedi for sitting on their hands and doing nothing. You literally cannot on one hand say that the CIS was no friend, but then accept his overwhelming involvement in its creation. It wasn't the Trade Federation, Banking Guilds, or Techno Union that started it; Dooku was the one who brought them all together. Dooku not only led this charge (and possibly authored a lot of this in Sideous' overall plan that he inherited from Darth Plagueis), but likely believed that the CIS would be the victor in the war, which plotted out a pathway to righteously govern the galaxy. It was the Sith who was no friend to him. He wanted to destroy the Sith, and he was truthful in his conversation with Obi-Wan. This scene was ingenious, and I frankly hate it when people said that he was just sweet-talking Obi-Wan--such insights are false, and only serve to undermine the mastery of this scene. He and his padawan, Qui Gon, are two sides of the same coin caught between a rock and a hard place. Neither of them like the Jedi and see them as immovable in the Order's dogmatic and narrow convictions. Qui-Gon is the anti-establishment on the light side of the Force, and Dooku is the same on the dark side. Dooku doesn't like the Sith--in fact, he warned the Jedi many times against its return, even as a child when he had visions of it. He saw Sifo Dias as a friend he could trust, but ultimately understood that his death was necessary to topple the Republic. He saw Palpatine as a necessary evil, and like the Sith's Rule of Two, he was constantly plotting avenues to dsestroy him--including his offer to Kenobi to help him overthrow the Sith Lord.

I can see that completely. I'd guess that Maul represents the sheer fear factor Vader uses with the Force, and Grievous represents another cyborg who is proficient even when dependent on machinery.

All driven by the hate for the Jedi order

@@arw1985 No. Maul mirrors the hatred, anger, and rage of Vader. Dooku mirrors Vader in that they both were amazing individuals with bright futures who were corrupted and brought to the Dark Side by Sidious. You're right about Grevious though. He mirrors what Vader would become physically.

Maul was a slave taken as a child and trained to be a killer Dooku was a fallen Jedi Grievous was a cyborg Vader is all 3

Also Pride.

Dooku and Vader both understood. With Dooku, he thought he can outsmart Palpatine. Vader, might as well. Dooku, didn't really believe in the Sith. I think he believed in a balance of the forces, and so it was ok to use the Dark side.

@@slewone4905 Dooku believed in the Sith. He wanted to overthrow Palpatine and be the knew Sith Lord. That was why he brought of Savage and maul again

Sidious told Vader in the comics he saw Dooku as a Torpedo, he had a specific purpose and when it was completed, dooku was simply to be disposed of

@@Godzilla00X Just like the rest...

@@slewone4905 nah he eventually goes full sith

well, notice what Darth Vader said. It's how Dooku feels. They all know Palpatine is evil, but he is too powerful. Palpatine dangle the hope that the other will take over to fix the evil he created, while keeping them in check. I think he even did that to Tarken.

From corruption to corruption.

Dooku’s downfall was believing that an authoritarian society would root out the corruption and decadence of the Republic. The Empire Dooku helped create had all the flaws of the Republic, only now without the democracy, free speech, or accountable leadership to limit it. In the end Palpatine didn’t care about Dooku’s idealism beyond lip service and only wanted the Empire as a means to empower himself. I think Dooku only came to realize that in the last seconds of his life.

@@solarsailor1534Yep..and it’s a shame. Just another pawn

@@solarsailor1534 I'm not sure if the Empire was corrupt and just more spiritually bankrupt from the rule of the sith, ie everything is supposed to benefit palpatine. I mean quite frankly from the looks of it the Republic got what it deserved and Palpatine did at least put a better system in place in certain aspects.

@@krel3358there is always that one guy who unironically defends the fascist bad guys. no, the empire was objectively worse for almost everyone. it has been shown countless times that however terrible the republic was, the empire was infinitely worse. he did not make any changes to the system that would benefit anyone besides himself. he visibly liked watching people suffer and grovel, he had no cares about the common folk, in fact he detested people in general. he oversaw multiple genocides, he legalized slavery, he invaded countless planets for no reason other than for his benefit. you can say the republic didnt help slaves, but it didnt directly enslave people or encourage it. you could say living in the republic was not the best for everyone, you cannot say it wrung every planet, system, person dry for any benefit. you could say the republic was a fake democracy, you couldnt say it was openly fascistic and a dictatorship. at least the senate under the republic was used to benefit some people who needed it, while still putting corporations and the rich above everybody else. under the emperor it only benefitted the senators and of course the emperor.

Qui Gon would not be himself, it wasn't for Dooku. THe Librarian said Dooku was one of the brightest. Dooku understood something that the other Jedi's failed, and unluckily he isn't the man who could fix it, but did teach these lessons to Qui Gon, who understood it better. I think the problem is , Star wars has gotten too big, but even when it was first made, there are conflicting ideas of where it should go. The problem is Disney have the movie people run amuck, with out understanding the philosophy that is behind the force. The goal according to Qui gon is to bring balance to the force. THis is base on Taoism. It is'n't for the light side to win, or destroy the dark.

@@slewone4905 Exactly!

@@slewone4905 Except when you go meta and look at what george Lucas believes, the goal essentially IS for the "light side" to win. Thing is, the whole "equally balanced in the force" thing you bring up is exactly what Disney got wrong about the force. It's not a literal equilibrium of 1 bad guy and 1 good guy that compliments one another. In the force, George has explained time and time again that the dark side consumes you and festers into something undesirable. Things like over extended pleasure, selfishness, these are what he says dooms an individual without true peace that comes without discipline. The sith must be eradicated because they bring nothing but perversion to the galaxy and the force. The "light side" that we know it as is just the force. We only call it the light side to distinguish it from the dark.

@@slewone4905 The light side is the balance of the force. the dark side is perversion of that balance.

Chill dude

Dooku really disliked the order tho, that's why he went to the dark side on the first place

@@DOMINNIMOD198 He disliked the Order under Yoda's time.

IN war, you can't always do things good guys would do. How do fight a war, with out killing. Isn't that what Andor is suppose to be about. He killed a friend just to keep the Rebel secrets alive. Dooku believed he had to do some unsavory things as well, so he can do the greater good later.

Staying Loyal to the Republic seemed to me to be the issue Dooku was having. He wanted things to be different but felt any means was necessary until one day he didn't care about the lie cause he never expected there to be one.

This episode proved that there was no hope for Anakin, the tendrils of the Sith were tightening around the necks of the Jedi well before the discovery and training of Anakin.

@@jeffreycarman2185 False. If Anakin was just treated better, or if he left the Jedi Order with Ahsoka, he may have been able to save his soul.

Seems like Dooku was created to be Anakin's father.

Palpatine had to get rid of Qui Gon. Dooku needed him to understand what's going on. I think Dooku and Qui Gon both knew that the Dark side is not the problem, but rather it needs balance with the light. The problem is when your in the middle, you can't see where you are.

theres a what if video on dooku training anakin and obi won. another what if video is Qui Gon traning Anakin as a grey jedi.

Indeed, in fact most jedi were upset and surprised by his turn - as indicated by the deleted scene in AOTC with Jocasta and Obi, and the meeting where they discuss the attempted assassination on Padmé's life. He was a great man.

He does have sith eyes in certain situations in clone wars show. Not all sith show or even have their eyes 100% of the time.

@@joshuawalters7520 Well, he did need to immerse himself fully to accomplish certain things - like defeating Jedi or pushing his own agenda. Even Palpatine lacks Sith eyes when he's not being overtly Sith. If Anakin hadn't killed him, I'm sure he'd go all Sith eyes publicly before too long.

I wouldn't mind a full-on series. I have always liked Dooku and his novel. But this did add some more layers to him, which is great. Love to see more of his relationship with gin.

Well yes and no i guess... He was a fcking racist haha so actully no but the corruption of the republic yeah sure

Everyone no matter which government rules them will relate to dooku in some way. The only difference between the star wars universe and ours is that the our reality hasn’t gotten to that point.. YET

no way his name is squinquargesimus 💀💀💀 goofy ahh real name

@@priyapepsi I know, I'm not proud of it either but he's my favorite Star Wars character and a deep one at that.

I think many would, but he ends up choosing the greater evil as a result

@@GenerationTech RAD

@@GenerationTech I think because he wanted to believe in something that was built upon a lie…not all that far-fetched actually. Sidious was the puppet master.

I think Dooku was right about a lot of things but ended up taking foolish and destructive actions because of it. Would really have loved to see what Yaddle would have done had she survived.

I'd have followed a similar, but at the same time radically different path, and would have probably created something more akin to the Rebel Alliance in place of the CIS, drawing upon the same ideals, but without the corporate influences, and without embracing the Sith: Freedom can never come through tyranny.

Chris Lee just is Dooku for me. He was the perfect actor for him

@@theblueraven764 definitely, I couldn’t think of a better actor for the role

Though you could make a point that if Anakin needed love he just wasn't suited to be a jedi. The jedi, especially Windu and yoda, failed the galaxy on a moral level, not on an emotional one. That was never their field to begin with

@@dontmindme6995 Agreed.

They mishandled everyone I am afraid. If an actual plan was set for Rey, Kylo and Finn, I would imagine they would be seen in a much better light today.

Forever be from his ideology to grasp opportunities...Ki mundi was right about dooku in SW EP-III REVENGE OF THE SITH

Dooku*

Power as a means to an end can very easily become the pursuit of power as the end, full stop.

Is still a bad guy. Also he wasn't a Jedi anymore, he was Sith.

Not even in the movies. His scene with Kenobi as prisoner in episode 2 go against him being a typical bad guy

Dooku sees it and then gets even more corrupt.

@@SimonPetrikov12 You mean the scene where he tries to get Obi-Wan to become his Sith apprentice? Lol.

Wow! Talk about fanboy syndrome! You guys do realize this is Darth Tyranus we're talking about here? This guy is an absolute TERROR!!! The teacher & mentor of General Grievous!!! There is one thing I'm willing to admit -- Obi-Wan, arguably the greatest warrior in the history of the galaxy, could not figure out Dooku...

@@chrisnyasia7 No shame in liking a villain

@@erob9446 well, now, see, that's where you're wrong-- there is a shame involved. I believe the term is called "Opprobrium".. If you're deriving any pleasure, guilty or otherwise, from Dooku's personal ethos, or his many nefarious exploits, then perhaps there is more going on there than what's been revealed... You need to seek the guidance of the council for clarification...

@@chrisnyasia7 bro shut up, I would not even hurt a fly. I like him, I am not turning in to him. Go out more, touch some grass, you'll learn there are other people who likes villains worst than Dooku. Dooku is also fiction, the logic you said works if it's a real person, like Jeffreh Dahmer

@@chrisnyasia7 Count Dooku is just a well written relateable villain which was driven by a noble cause - the corrupt goverment and mega corpos robbing the ordinary people while the supposed watchers the Jedi lost their cause and aligned with the wrong side of history - and he’s as correct as Qui Gon on this matter - and through his wrong methods to solve the problem he turned into the monster he believed to fight till the point there was no way back. He isn’t just a evil dude doing bad things - he is a character with interesting grey shades doing bad things and a paradoxical story. Only because I can relate to the 3 prequel villains and like them as fictional characters for different reasons it doesn’t mean I copy any of their evil side to real life or would cheer on it if it happens in the real world.

Well, Darth Tyranus lost what’s game he was playing. The Galactic Empire and Order 66 are his legacy.

@@conordarken1778 Yeah. They are his legacy and his failure. He thought he can use the dark side but the dark side used him.

Well his training of Savage was preety well... Savage lol. Although Savage at that point was corrupted af. Still Dooku is now one of my Top 5 Star wars characters.

He seemed like a good man who fell deeper and deeper into evil. He was evil though he didn't seem to want to be.

@@davidm4566 Like Macbeth? Definitely a tragic Shakespearean character.

Also a man who murdered millions of innocent people. I felt for DOOKU too but don't let your hero worship ruin your common sense

While all those (rebels, the film trilogy, mandalorian, ahsoka, solo, obi wan, etc...) are trash done by Disney, hate rogue one because of bitch Jyn Erso, I found Tale of the Jedi the best one I can see.

Wise? Hah, Yoda is dogmatic, unyielding and do things by the book.

atoc ?

@@h4xe7reac75 Attack of the Clones.

Dude was a teacher for sure

@@h4xe7reac75 cmon you really couldn’t figure that out?

Also Sev'Rance Tann and Trenox.

Yea filoni was at top form

Tell that to Palpatine.

it wasn’t a secret who he was…

@@leelee-uq5ui yeah well I made sure to stay away from the trailers so when I watched the episode I had no idea he would be in it

Dooku didn't have "clean" goals. Novels reveal that his real problem with the Jedi was that they weren't authoritarian enough. Had he lived to see the Galactic Empire, it would have been far more brutal and repressive than it was. He wanted non-humans stripped of their property and given to humans, and he also wanted aliens to be expelled from all sectors of government.

Starkiller was my favourite who started as a dark jedi and later became a grey jedi

You need to get another one to duel

This is a pertinent comment. I had heard the US = Republic falling into Empire thing was an intention creative decision by Lucas. It was something he actively wanted to get across given the events occurring at the time. I think, in that context, it's interesting too that the CIS are portrayed, in a sense, as the US's rivals (almost as if to subconsciously make American viewers dislike and suspect them more, rallying around the Republic only to be confused when it becomes the Empire). Dooku and the CIS Parliament represent Europe and the Commonwealth countries... the CIS Parliament is an obvious UK Westminster style legislature and Dooku carries perceived nobility and history. They are the "political rivals" or threat... as the US left often cites EU and Commonwealth countries as examples of what the US should be like instead of what it is. Gunray (with his hilarious over-stereotyped accent) leads the CIS Council and represents East Asia (Japan and later China), the economic rival or threat to the US position. Grievous, supreme commander of the CIS armed forces, has a pronounced Russia accent, and represents the greatest military threat or rival to the US (as Russia was seen then). All of these are distractions... the Republic hates them and the Jedi focus their attention on combating them, but the true threat (as with the US) is within. A Republic weighed down by corruption gradually falling to bad actors within its establishment. Bashing the other three and making them the center of American ire ("Eurotrash", "Russian Commies", "Chinese ripoffs" etc) is just a convenient way to make people more nationalistic and distract from domestic issues. Star Wars is deep.

The situation had gotten out of hands

@@GenerationTech And then Dooku's hands got out of him.

Redeemed, no. Understandable and relatable, yes

@@brianhanes5413 in terms of character quality yes.