We Need To Rethink School

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Andrewism

Andrewism

Күн бұрын

Our current way of schooling isn't working. Due to its history, the education system carries persistent problems to the present day. Let's look at some solutions to revolutionise our approach to education for a liberated future.
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Solarpunk Alana's Video on Education & Ecology: • Why Education for Natu...
Introduction - 0:00
Preface - 1:17
History of Schooling - 1:57
Critique of Schooling - 8:13
History of Anarchist Alternatives - 17:49
Mapping Alternatives to Schooling - 24:42
Conclusion - 32:17
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Sources & Resources:
The Emergence of Compulsory Schooling and Anarchist Resistance by Matt Hern
Toward the Destruction of Schooling by Jan D Matthews
Standardizing Human Ability by Cathy Davidson
The Social Importance of the Modern School by Emma Goldman
Anarchism: The Feminist Connection by Peggy Kornegger
Childhood & The Psychological Dimension of Revolution by Ashanti Alston
Schooling in Capitalist America by Samuel Bowles and Herbert Gintis
Ideology and Ideological State Apparatuses by Louis Althusser
Anarchist Pedagogies by Robert H. Haworth
Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Freire
Deschooling Society by Ivan Illich
The Desktop Regulatory State by Kevin Carson
The Origin and Ideals of the Modern School by Francisco Ferrer
Anarchy, A Graphic Guide by Clifford Harper
Anarchic Epimetheanism: The pedagogy of Ivan Illich by Richard Kahn

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@solarpunkalana
@solarpunkalana 14 күн бұрын
Great video, and thank you for collaborating with me! The education system definitely needs an entire rehaul, from both a social and ecological perspective.
@DownTheStream
@DownTheStream 14 күн бұрын
Really enjoyed your video about rewilding education, keep up the good work!
@coolioso808
@coolioso808 13 күн бұрын
What if there was an organizational platform that could allow co-operative communities to build new schools, under a new model, but also build everything else we need, like local food, healthcare, clean energy and other goods and services through a non-profit worker co-operative network of cooperation, collaboration and co-ownership? What if that already exists and we could join freely and start building the new model while the out-dated capitalist model is collapsing around us? One Small Town provides that platform. Worth a look. Nothing to lose by looking into it and everything to gain from getting involved.
@noble_norse7786
@noble_norse7786 8 күн бұрын
​@@coolioso808your system would collapse after a month.
@FatFilipinoUK
@FatFilipinoUK 14 күн бұрын
I watched a video about someone being against universal basic income. He argued that without a job, people lack meaning in their lives, and they become lazy. But what is stopping someone on universal basic income using their free time and money to take the initiative and educate themselves, learn a new skill, and find their own meaning of life? Society assumes that people need to be wage slaves to derive meaning in their lives.
@Lucifersfursona
@Lucifersfursona 14 күн бұрын
Terrifying insight into how people may think that they must be assigned self purpose for it to exist
@HedgeWitch-st3yy
@HedgeWitch-st3yy 14 күн бұрын
And create art, music, craft, literature, philosophy and gardens and other things that enrich society but don't currently allow most to make a living.
@mindsindialogue
@mindsindialogue 14 күн бұрын
@@Lucifersfursona Assigned self-purpose. A wet dream of an authoritarian and capitalist mind. Terrifying.
@YourCapyBra_3Dpipesa90sspecial
@YourCapyBra_3Dpipesa90sspecial 14 күн бұрын
In truth, a good job can provide a positive purpose but it doesn't HAVE to be the only purpose in our lives. In addition to or, in place of, some kind of a job ,if people have basic survival money they could certainly apply themselves in many other positive ways as well. People should have the option. That's my core belief that everyone should have the option to choose for themselves, in just about anything.
@tintincruz8660
@tintincruz8660 13 күн бұрын
I bet that person agrees on modern slavery 😂 Money isn't everything. THAT'S THE POINT OF UBI!
@AnMuiren
@AnMuiren 13 күн бұрын
In elementary school I was punished for saying that it seems we were being schooled how to be taught, not how to learn. The thought came from the reference librarian who helped me with books on how to develop better study habits, introducing me to the word 'autodidact'. Many white children left our school, and told me they were learning higher-order thinking skills. I was told we couldn't be taught that by our Black teacher, and I was punished for asking that too. I was diagnosed autistic, which to this I'm told is a made up thing for whites. As a child, it meant I was lacking intelligence, so my teacher were obsessed with proving my high grade ere from cheating. That is still a common assumption of black autistic children, while white children with autism are seen as an evolutionary leap forwards. Neither of the assumptions are true, and are inherently destructive. I eventually transferred into Ohio's first free school project, which outraged my father, but my he did nothing to stop it. Black children told me their parents said I was being taught to be a socialist who is against god, racist, and anti-Black. They mistakenly believed Nazism, socialism, communism were all vaguely the same and evil. I'm 67, live in Berkeley, CA, but here and everywhere, I travel in the US, I still find this disinformation regurgitated as fact be people regardless of their degree of "education".
@Andrewism
@Andrewism 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience. It's terrible how Black autistic children are treated then and now.
@shzarmai
@shzarmai 12 күн бұрын
@@Andrewism Please consider making a video about Immigration** since anti-immigration/anti-refugee rhetoric is sweeping the Global North in particular Western Europe with the rise of far-right political parties like the AFD in Germany and National Rally in France. And of course in the USA too this is happening with Trump and the Republicans.............
@EricMHowardII-yh1rn
@EricMHowardII-yh1rn 11 күн бұрын
The educational process needs to be enjoyable because currently that is not the case especially for boys .
@kikijewell2967
@kikijewell2967 9 күн бұрын
Wow what a harrowing story! Glad you survived all of it. Would love to hear about your free school experiences. I was Montessori educated - and found no good Montessori schools for my own child, even in the Bay Area, because all of them are focused on the curriculum, not the child. I wish I could know you personally. I bet we have much in common.
@stephenlangsl67
@stephenlangsl67 5 күн бұрын
Actually, I have a form of Autism too, but it was not diagnosed until about 10 years after I graduated from high school. My diagnosis for when I was in elementary school was A.D.H.D.
@Min-ou8ti
@Min-ou8ti 14 күн бұрын
Korean school survivor here. I used to go to school by 8am and comeback home on 11pm every weekdays. I took breaks in every weekends in guilt in that everyone else was likely toiling away with studying and I was "exceptionally lazy" for even daring to do so since that was the society's standards. Those few numeric values I received every month were objective measurement of my worth and I constantly struggled to get those up even at least a few points, actually thinking that it would make me better than anyone else. The thing with competition is that not only it devalues you but everyone around you as well. Since there would be many others that are worse off and schools and society have decided that means they worth less as human beings Recently couple more news broke out about the schools here. One was about a student attacking a teacher with a knife. And the other about a male high school student hurting a female classmate on the face and throwing himself off from 9th floor of an apartment. Hearing both made it alive should have relieved me but it has only made it worse for me since I can already imagine the physical and emotional damage they could have received and the aftermath they would face. The comments were all about how teachers need more authority and use more cruel punishments and how those kids daring to oppose such authorities cannot be forgiven. Also that the cause in all of this is "how their parents have not given them proper family education" which I believe it is the generic equivalent to more parent authority and mandating obedience.
@Andrewism
@Andrewism 14 күн бұрын
That is a really tragic experience and I'm sorry to hear that you and others have gone and are going through that. Globally, the education systems need to change, and I think the Korean example impresses just how urgent that need for change is.
@mEmory______
@mEmory______ 14 күн бұрын
That sounds horrific wtf
@NoRockinMansLand
@NoRockinMansLand 14 күн бұрын
That sounds terrible, meanwhile we have dumm republicans begging for this system without even understanding what it entails
@Kalitayy
@Kalitayy 13 күн бұрын
Schools in Asia are the worst
@calicosta
@calicosta 13 күн бұрын
Americans are no where near this level of education, discipline, habits or levels of competence within American school systems. American children are far behind those of other countries. American children need to be told not to physically attack or harm or be mass -illers.
@imValerium
@imValerium 13 күн бұрын
“We get so used to other people telling us what to do, that we can’t imagine a world without someone ruling us” preach brother this is the shit 👊💪 the sooner we take responsibility for our lives and stop relying on other people to lead us through life, the quicker we can find our own sense of purpose and value
@LARADEKA
@LARADEKA 13 күн бұрын
I'd point this on religion too. But who needs gods to fill the gaps when we already see it in human flesh?
@0xm
@0xm 11 күн бұрын
That’s a world with pedophiles running around
@Definitelynotabot4
@Definitelynotabot4 10 күн бұрын
Exactly
@SloMoMonday
@SloMoMonday 14 күн бұрын
Nothing is sadder than convincing kids that their worth is measured by a number and grading. Me and so many other people at every point and walk of life, broke when we could never meet arbitrary expectations. And if you fall under a line or out of the mold, you are not worth the effort.
@ItHadToBeSaid
@ItHadToBeSaid 13 күн бұрын
Couldn't agree more, and like everything in school it limits our thinking for the rest of our lives, unless we unlearn it. It teaches us to compete with others for money and status symbols instead of making our lives and our communities better. Our self-worth depends on believing we're better than others in the ways we're taught to value like money and hard work and how green our grass is.
@PeninsulaCity2024
@PeninsulaCity2024 12 күн бұрын
My personal experience exactly. Doesn't help my parents come from a culture that (over)emphasizes education as the foundation to having a life to the point I almost... quit. I don't mean just dropping out either.
@ErutaniaRose
@ErutaniaRose 11 күн бұрын
This. I had undiagnosed learning disabilities till 20 and didn’t know I was neurodivergent till 16-17. I have school-related-PTSD because of the normalized ableism and shame. I remember being told “If you don’t go to college and get a job, you will die homeless and alone.” And how anyone thinks it’s okay to tell children that every day since they are under 10 is a monster or saying what they heard from one. TW small trauma dump: School for me was so bad, being shamed for my slow reading and not doing math exactly right (despite teachers never giving any context to the information or being able to explain it in another way). I got bullied by teachers and kids alike for years in elementary school, had lots of mental health issues and struggles with middle school due to transition and trauma alike, forced onto medication I did not want via coercion after my accommodations were not followed and I “needed it to do well” in high school, and so much more. Including more bullying for teachers. I can’t even remember it all. I remember the few kind teachers I ran into. The few kind souls, and without them I definitely would have run away from home or tried to end my life due to schooling and the fights it caused at home. (Which is much better now especially with family therapy, my own therapy, and my parents understanding my brain more.) This system is traumatizing and needs to end before more kids end their lives.
@SpikeyBagel
@SpikeyBagel 9 күн бұрын
@@ErutaniaRoseoh my god, i was a perfectionist at four years old, and i was still told at maybe six that people who don't get good grades end up living under bridges. i didn't bring it up again until i was about 11; i got a single C and felt my life was suddenly heading towards the underside of a bridge. it is so fucked
@07Flash11MRC
@07Flash11MRC 2 күн бұрын
"convincing kids that their worth is measured by a number and grading.": It isn't. Under our system what matters is the number in our bank accounts. That's why rethinking school without rethinking the capi---tal----i$t system is ineffective.
@readysetgo4321
@readysetgo4321 13 күн бұрын
I recently found my joy of learning after removing the boredom and trauma mixed in from schooling. To hell with a system that chooses to traumatize young children.
@fantasticbirdblue
@fantasticbirdblue 12 күн бұрын
How did you do it?
@injusticeanywherethreatens4810
@injusticeanywherethreatens4810 10 күн бұрын
How did you do that?
@ZyahCatDragonCat
@ZyahCatDragonCat 14 күн бұрын
I came upon this during my universities Palestinian solidarity encampment has been under threat from well basically all levels of state and school authorities. It made me realize I think for the first time, how the structure of the university system itself, especially here in canada, is an active and often violent arm of the state. In many shocking and horrific ways that probably shouldn’t be typed out in a KZfaq comment. Anyone who steps out of line is on the line. And if they are Indigenous or Black particularly, they may be in physical danger. I kinda “knew” this. But it never really all came together for me without the context of the Taylorist construction, and state propagation. My father is a public school teacher and has been for over 30 years now, and he is a great teacher, one that has definitely taken many approaches described here, not because he’s an Anarchist, but because he always genuinely cared about his students and wanted them to learn together, and at most of the schools he’s taught at. He’s been able to change a small group of other teachers to take some more student student approaches and trying to reduce quantification of worth through grades. Sadly at public schools grades are required. So that can’t happen anymore. But at the old private school. He just gave basically everyone an A and it was more based on like how much they grew rather than like how many out of 10 they got correct on a test.
@theIconstable
@theIconstable 14 күн бұрын
I'm very excited to check this video out. I'm a public school teacher, and I've been thinking a lot about this topic for the last few years. I've also been looking into the Anarchist Pedagogies Collective, the Human Restoration Project, and a lot of literature on the topic of free schooling etc. I even presented last year about all the changes I've been trying to implement in my own classroom. I'm trying my best, but there are so many barriers for an individual teacher. I hope we can work together and move forward towards crafting something better.
@mindsindialogue
@mindsindialogue 14 күн бұрын
I am just a random stranger out of 8 billion, but I perhaps among those who are awaken to the dystopia being perpetrated for centuries. Please, comrade, do not give up.
@BlackAnarchist1992
@BlackAnarchist1992 14 күн бұрын
As a school teacher myself this is a much needed video and I definitely appreciate to. Also I plan on working on a framework for Black Liberatory Education that aims to build a community to education pipeline that is cyclical in its function as the negation to the school to prison pipeline.
@Andrewism
@Andrewism 14 күн бұрын
Sorely needed!
@BlackAnarchist1992
@BlackAnarchist1992 14 күн бұрын
@@Andrewism I just have no idea when I’m going to be able to work on it but it is a priority for me nevertheless.
@Vaeldarg
@Vaeldarg 13 күн бұрын
@@BlackAnarchist1992 If you're doing that here in the U.S, keep the right-wing "culture warriors" very much in mind. They're hateful enough of manufactured boogeymen like CRT, that had a limited scope, so they would really go after anyone trying to do what you're planning.
@liamneels8197
@liamneels8197 11 күн бұрын
These perspectives would be covered in an intro-level course while getting your Master’s. Not to say that you aren’t doing noble work, but you aren’t the first to consider such thoughts and their ramifications, as well as considering how schools fit into the context of simply leading students to yet another higher, still oppressive rung on the ladder. Freire stated best that for the oppressed, to be [human] is oppressor. Peace love and happiness, but I implore you to explore your brave ideas amidst a backdrop of fascinating research by activists who are doing the brunt work to build upon their findings - not feeling like you are alone in your fight.
@BlackAnarchist1992
@BlackAnarchist1992 11 күн бұрын
@@liamneels8197 While I do appreciate your comment there isn’t a specific focus on black communities within the context of America in general which is why I call the idea a plan for Black Liberatory Education.
@RemnantCult
@RemnantCult 14 күн бұрын
I remember having a deep love for learning as I wanted to be a scholar growing up. I would really become focused on my studies but by the time I was in high school and moved, I notice a seriously deep hatred for learning in everything except a few people. I felt other'd for spending my time at the library and despite my good grades I was treated like a potential problem by teachers and staff who generally saw all students as obstacles or even potential criminals. I remember being told to "shut up" while asking a question in class and the teacher didn't back me up, he just kept going. That was a reality learning experience for me and while I'm glad I know see the world of education for what it is in my country, I don't want any kid to experience what I went through.
@joshuaramirez9088
@joshuaramirez9088 13 күн бұрын
I relate. I've found relearning a love of learning isn't so easy, especially when in many ways (from my experience as of yet) college perpetuates the same twisted version of "learning" that grade school does.
@darajoyce5514
@darajoyce5514 13 күн бұрын
​@@joshuaramirez9088 yup
@ramenaddict1676
@ramenaddict1676 14 күн бұрын
meanwhile, parents are unschooling and neglecting their kid's education for all the wrong reasons.
@Lucifersfursona
@Lucifersfursona 14 күн бұрын
“The American school model is broken!” “Yeah! Why do you think so?” “School not culty enough. Not enough death and shame. Children are being treated like they’re human and I find that disgusting. One time my kid asked me why god built us physical bodies if he despises everything they are and do so much now we won’t get raptured” “No-“
@Andrewism
@Andrewism 14 күн бұрын
Unfortunately. This is why any proper change in education will have to come from a cooperative and radical movement made up of diverse segments of society waving the banner of critical pedagogy and social justice, not isolated pockets of parents.
@Vaeldarg
@Vaeldarg 13 күн бұрын
Worse are the ones wanting to warp the school by using the children as an excuse. Sometimes they'll be at the board meetings of schools they don't even HAVE children attending. It's become yet another "culture war" front for certain groups that tell themselves what is currently taught is too left-leaning (like Critical Race Theory) and so to "win" on that front, they have to fill schools with right-leaning concepts to indoctrinate children that until now had a place out of reach from their right-wing parents' influence.
@addammadd
@addammadd 13 күн бұрын
It is essential to distinguish Illich’s deschooling from TikTok/Insta/KZfaq’s unschooling. It is imperative to recognize that in any circumstance where a radical alternative is proposed, there are always going to be those who take the most vulgar understanding of it and appropriate those aspects which would be most appealing to a mass of people thereby generating personal capital; be that social or economic. Thus we get the ignoramicisation of deschooling by thirsty idiots into unschooling practiced by crunchy slobs.
@coolioso808
@coolioso808 13 күн бұрын
@@Andrewism I agree. I'm working on a co-operative model of new schooling, 21st Century skills, critical thinking, hands-on ecology learning and small class sizes to allow for better teacher-student relationships of learning, self-expression and growth. It is loosely based off a 'Mini U' summer camp set up that I've worked with in the past. Freedom of choice for parents and students for a variety of courses, taught by experts that don't necessarily have to be formal teachers, but they could be and then have the freedom to bring in experienced guest teachers, or better yet, just have the flexibility to bring the whole class to the site where the expert teacher(s) are and get some hands-on learning. That is my passion project to go with a new cooperative community network platform that can uplift communities and provide mutual aid and prosperity for everybody in the area, especially those who choose to contribute.
@gillianfisher752
@gillianfisher752 14 күн бұрын
Being a teacher myself, I was reluctant to watch this video. There's so much that happens behind the scenes of modern (in my case, American) education systems that makes it difficult for even students to judge, despite them growing up in that same system. However, you brought up some good points I wish to discuss. Again, I have a limited viewpoint of education. I've only ever taught in the US, specifically in NC and VT, but let's continue. 1. Students nowadays are constantly questioning a teacher's knowledge. They don't wish to blindly follow. Social media, while being immeasurably frustrating to deal with in the classroom, has given students a different point of view. Not that I ever expected students to blindly trust me, but it's definitely given students a voice they wouldn't have otherwise had. 2. You state that our modern education system, while desiring genuine outcomes, has basically become a method to churn out as many young and mindless working people possible. This is 100% correct, and causes so many teachers constant frustration to this day. We're told in university that our job is to educate, but we're constantly bombarded by the priorities of... other things from other people [who aren't students]. (I'm withdrawing a lot of my personal opinions here. I just don't want you to think that us teachers are also mindlessly following what we've been taught. We know the system is broken, but we can't realistically do anything about it.) 3. The core structure remains unchanged because there is less and less education funding to make those changes, and less and less support for educating students as a whole. Teachers know how people best learn, and we're well informed of modern educational methods. However we are constantly being told there's not enough to support students in that way. At the end of the day, we can only do so much, else it'll encompass our entire livelihood. I don't mean to end the comments here. Like I said, you brought up good points that need to be addressed. However it's brought some unexpected anxiety. Hopefully I'll continue tomorrow. I just want you to know that this teacher hears you and also desires significant change, and I do my best to encourage that every year.
@Vaeldarg
@Vaeldarg 13 күн бұрын
It probably doesn't help that in the U.S, you have a large portion of conservatives fearful that higher education will turn their child into a "college-educated elitist liberal", because they're told by propagandist culture warriors that those institutions have been "infiltrated" by the "radical left". Not to mention that is part of the decades-old fear of demographics diminishing conservative influence as the country becomes more minority-majority and more educated. So the two fears combined means conservatives with control of state governments have done everything they can to keep kids as under-educated and indoctrinated as possible.
@drewid3876
@drewid3876 12 күн бұрын
You’re second point reminds me the concept of Hypernormalization discussed by BBC documentarian Adam Curtis. People in the Soviet Union knew that the system was broken and that their leaders were incompetent, but they couldn’t muster an alternative vision.
@hypergraphic
@hypergraphic 12 күн бұрын
How much is funding an issue? I often hear things like the US spends more on K-12 education that other developed countries. A quick google search says 18k is spent on the average public school student. What is not being said with statements like that and how come other countries can spend less but get better outcomes?
@liamneels8197
@liamneels8197 11 күн бұрын
Our goal as teachers is to share with students the importance of questioning authority. Why SHOULD they trust you? What perspectives do you teach? Whose perspectives DONT you teach? Share with them. There is a difference between being honest in your journey, everyone’s journey, to be more educated and being ignorant due to discomfort. If students cannot learn how to question the very viewpoints we posit, then we have failed them.
@drewid3876
@drewid3876 9 күн бұрын
@@liamneels8197 Agreed … at the end of the day we’ve chosen a path to teach in public schools, problematic as they may be. We should educate with the root of the word in mind, that is “to draw out” or lead out. We are leading out their inner potential. I don’t hold my breath for reformation of the system because I’ve learned that the people in decision making positions want to give the appearance of reform by espousing woke virtue signalling and corporat-style DEI initiatives instead of getting down in the trenches and figuring out what teachers and students really need, and the community takes less and less responsibility to take part in (and demand their place in) decision-making in their school communities. We also have no school boards where I live. They were dismantled by the government and their authority has been centralized to the provincial level, with very little backlash. I think that the solution to our education issues is decentralization and giving more authority to schools and communities. My region, unfortunately suffers from a lack of self-esteem and a cow towing attitude to authority figures. During the cervesa virus, I saw far too many colleagues drift into totalitarianism/authoritarianism because of their baseline trust of centralized authority and their gullibility to fear mongering media. Things are beginning to turn around though, and I’m just on my own personal mission with my own unique vision. The more I’ve stuck to it, the more I see momentum building and other colleagues working in concurrence with their own respective visions.
@HedgeWitch-st3yy
@HedgeWitch-st3yy 14 күн бұрын
'Incapable of thinking clearly' really hits. So much rote learning, so little opportunity for creativity, exploration and engagement to develop the ability to reason, problem solve, research and think through ideas and their implications.
@michaelajames99
@michaelajames99 8 күн бұрын
Just wondering, did you go to public or private school? I believe that school is not life so while life is about exploration and whatnot, school itself doesn’t need to fill that need.
@chinemeremugo-nwosu5932
@chinemeremugo-nwosu5932 14 күн бұрын
Dear lord Andrew, you have no idea how much this video is a gift from the heavens for me. I'm currently at the tail end of my second semester (2nd year) of university and continuously through the experience I've been wrought with the thoughts that the school system is a horrendous experience if you aren't the "ideal student". Expected to sacrifice everything to win the system and be the perfect little pawn. I just can't do that, my focus on studying courses I don't find interesting is miniscule, I'm terrible at memorizing when I need to and I'm not exactly the best at managing my time. All these factors keep making me think that I'm not worth anything until I have to remind myself that the grades are just a measurement for the juiciness I would bring to whatever Upper Management suit decides to pluck me like an apple. As I speak now I've got an exam tomorrow which I understand from a fundamental level the topics and discussions had in class, but if I'm not able to recall the answers to hyperspecific scenarios with the terms and wording my lecturers deem as "right" then I'm no different from someone who doesn't even know anything at all. Francisco's Modern school sounds like a damn dream to me, I love to learn things I can apply, but when I'm being judged by some hierarchal standard, I just can't function. It drains my soul and kills whatever interest I have. It just goes from wonder to trying to maximize arbitrary points
@YourCapyBra_3Dpipesa90sspecial
@YourCapyBra_3Dpipesa90sspecial 14 күн бұрын
Wow you're so eloquent. It's sad to think you're being so poorly served by your higher education. it shouldn't be this way. We desperately need alternative possibilities.
@ErutaniaRose
@ErutaniaRose 11 күн бұрын
If school was actually to help us, we wouldn’t ignore nearly everything about child psychology, disability, learning differences and disabilities, and neurodivergence at nearly every turn to save money. And if it worked, kids wouldn’t be coming self-ending to get out of the pressure, stress, PTSD, etc. I say this as a disabled person with school-related-PTSD from years of ableism and lots of direct harm medically, caused by the school.
@CandyThePuppy
@CandyThePuppy 13 күн бұрын
I've undergone every form of education save for private school. Yes, even unschooling for a year. I'm the eldest and therefore experimental child after all. And from all that, I learned one thing: The best way to learn is to just teach yourself. 💀
@Lil1kv
@Lil1kv 6 күн бұрын
Same. Self driven learning is such a wonderful thing and i wish modern education promoted it.
@ToLovelyJesus
@ToLovelyJesus 14 сағат бұрын
When/if you become a parent, you will realize how much you don’t know, and that experimenting with ideals cannot be avoided.
@CandyThePuppy
@CandyThePuppy 14 сағат бұрын
@@ToLovelyJesus I know.
@SpiritVines
@SpiritVines 14 күн бұрын
I would have loved a school like this in k-12. This system trains us to serve those who have “more” than we do. It’s never served people like me. Even in the expensive schools they will find a way to gatekeep and bully you into servitude.
@AshaSelfsDemoFilms
@AshaSelfsDemoFilms 14 күн бұрын
Ever since I fell for the okey doke of rich kid school (both sending my first born to one and working there) I've been feeling this. Rich kid school is a whole mind f and everyone is rushing to catch up to Japan and S. Korea where kids are literally killing themselves?!?! MIMS😵‍💫
@Min-ou8ti
@Min-ou8ti 14 күн бұрын
Really shows that the most prominent cause of death for teenagers in S.Korea is suicide. Now it is labeled as suicide officially, but a professor I'm listening to said this is more like mass societal homicide.
@Vaeldarg
@Vaeldarg 13 күн бұрын
Which is weird, since so many Asian families then send those kids who did survive and get high grades over to U.S colleges/universities. (especially China, that seems to want to become the U.S except without American culture or democracy)
@michaelajames99
@michaelajames99 8 күн бұрын
At least at my private school, it had everything Andrew mentioned in the video as in freedom, learning how to learn, and community. With that said, it definitely a bit of a rat race with everyone’s parents expecting excellence.
@veryirishdude
@veryirishdude 12 күн бұрын
As a former substitute teacher, this is one huge problem I have with education as a whole, the panopticon for surveilling students is now digital as well as in the real world. In addition to the behavior issues that spring from some kids not being able to do 7-12 hour days (a lot of kids have after school programs until 5 or 6 and have to wake up at 5 or 6 when parents go to work), it just leads to an environment that is stressful, exhausting for them, and not conducive to learning or becoming a self teaching student that pursues knowledge for knowledge's sake.
@TheXFireball
@TheXFireball 14 күн бұрын
Andrew made this video just after the horrible entrance exam kids are forced to take here in Trinidad to place them in secondary school results came out. Great timing.
@Andrewism
@Andrewism 14 күн бұрын
Horrible, horrible system
@erinrenman1479
@erinrenman1479 12 күн бұрын
I know someone who was unschooled as a child, and as a result she can barely read and write, never mind higher order skills. We need a different approach to schooling than we currently have, but we also need to address the practical issues. How do we ensure that children being taught in alternative ways actually develop the skills they need?
@michaelajames99
@michaelajames99 8 күн бұрын
Exactly, I was wondering when someone would bring this up.
@ToLovelyJesus
@ToLovelyJesus 14 сағат бұрын
On the flip side, I know homeschooled children who are light years ahead of their peers. As with many things, there is good and bad everywhere.
@aleksanderrosqvist1248
@aleksanderrosqvist1248 14 күн бұрын
So happy to see this come out now! I just got out of a ROUGH year of teaching, and have just been gearing up for some research and rethinking about what I can do going forward. I have to teach to put food on the table, but where I can, I enjoy teaching in ways that encourage students to think for themselves and challenge existing notions.
@leahpersaud9930
@leahpersaud9930 13 күн бұрын
i’m bajan and i just finished my last year of secondary school this year. i was the president of my school’s students council and i tried to get my school heavily involved in the government’s “education transformation” initiative. we all wanted change in the system but the changes they proposed were just to overhaul our system and create and new one to mirror the american system without addressing specific needs of our people and criticisms and accomplishments of the current system and the people within it. it was difficult to get our ideas through to them for many reasons; adults didn’t want to listen to what we would say, we are the top school so ofc everyone thought we’d oppose the changes that could level the playing field and a whole lot of other preconceptions and barriers to communication externally and internally. i could go on for hours about this topic because it is so dear to me even if i have finished secondary school and plan to pursue tertiary education overseas (idk yet though because cxc is taking real long with these CAPE results) and i’m so glad to see one of my fav youtubers and caribbean comrade talk about it. sending love from barbados ❤🇧🇧
@Andrewism
@Andrewism 13 күн бұрын
Sending love right back from T&T 🇹🇹 It's unfortunately common in the Caribbean that the youth's ideas for transformation are ignored. Hopefully you all can find another way to see those changes made
@darkstarr984
@darkstarr984 10 күн бұрын
Good luck from the US. The American school system is such a disaster in reality I am sorry for that reason too that you’re not being listened to.
@_aleria
@_aleria 13 күн бұрын
I read the book "The English Teacher" by R.K.Narayan and it depicted a professor exhaused with the teachings of literature studies in his school. To directly quote one of his lines,"..This education had reduced us to a nation of morons ;we were strangers to our own culture and camp followers of another culture feeding on leavings and garbage" Though this wasn't the fullest sentiment it was a reflection of the backwardness he considered current teaching techniques to be and how it can be evolved .Throughout be book the teacher moans and groans over even going to teach his students and it reminded me of how disillusioned teachers always seemed to be for me.This video really expanded on my beliefs that schools are only meant for indoctrination ,meant to be a cog to a machine and my teachers hated it.I was often corporal punished for not doing assignments or showing a general disinterest to school as a whole. I only studied subjects that intrigued me and abandoned the studies of other subjects.I'm glad to know that people have fought for the "decapitalisation" of education.I can only hope to encourage and even foster such changes within my community.
@astronaut4291
@astronaut4291 14 күн бұрын
Algebra teacher from WV, USA here! Awesome video, Paolo Freire has really inspired the way I view my profession. I used to be a wind turbine engineer, but I now truly believe that a liberated education is the core solution to all crises we face. Thank you for the reminder that while doing what I can within the system is good, I need to do concurrent work outside the system too. “The role of teachers, those obscure soldiers of civilization, is to give to the masses the intellectual means of revolt.” - Louise Michel
@confused_lefty
@confused_lefty 14 күн бұрын
I agree. I wanted a good resource on anarchist schools, you uploaded at the perfect time. It's surprising and sad that lot of leftists think current schooling system has no problems when late 1800s and early 1900s anarchists were way more radical on this topic
@caiden3396
@caiden3396 14 күн бұрын
We should have democratic education with service learning, experience learning, and learning by doing in some cases (e.g. food preparation and community gardening), student centered learning, child integration (no age segregation), self regulated learning, competency based learning, and no grading or homework. Education would include formal learning, informal learning, and non-formal learning. Assessment would be more qualitative and less quantitative, more formative and less summative, more criterion-referenced and less norm-referenced, and, in some cases, ipsative. Operant conditioning, classical conditioning, and gamification would also be used far more beneficially when used. Students would participate in the management and maintenance of their school and use natural resting positions rather than sitting in a chair or on a ball unless unable to do so. They would learn with context, understanding, and orientation. Food would be healthy, and dining rooms and kitchens would be part of local regenerative food systems. Education would mostly be cooperative, but be competitive to an extent in some cases like with sports. The curriculum would be socially oriented and structured like an outline of academic disciplines. Although, in the case of service learning, experience learning, and learning by doing, that wouldn't always be the case (e.g. plunging a toilet and cleaning the school). Students would learn some knowledge at places like repair cafes, during the management and maintenance of their school, possibly through the manuals, and by helping with local regenerative agriculture and homemaking. For people who are interested in doing so, some knowledge, such as music, could be learned at leisure centers or other places.
@TheQuietPartisLoud
@TheQuietPartisLoud 14 күн бұрын
Honestly you hit the nail on the head completely.
@Vaeldarg
@Vaeldarg 13 күн бұрын
That's not really a school at that point. What you've said kinda turns an entire town into a school. (also good luck leaving the school's IT maintenance in the hands of students unless thinking about that more in the context of how mentorships work)
@SC-gw8np
@SC-gw8np 13 күн бұрын
That sounds amazing. I would also add extensive mentorship programs, community based teaching and teaching of classical education (especially trivium) to the philosophically inclined students.
@joshmayetballoon3103
@joshmayetballoon3103 13 күн бұрын
@@Vaeldarg Yeah cause the school is being integrated more to the community
@caiden3396
@caiden3396 13 күн бұрын
@@Vaeldarg Students wouldn't do things they're not competent at or lack the responsibility for. It would be similar to kids cleaning their schools in Japan. Adults would still be involved, and mentorship would also be important. There just wouldn't be an ageist view of competency and responsibility. And both kids and adults would be involved in meetings and things like voting as needed.
@TheQuietPartisLoud
@TheQuietPartisLoud 14 күн бұрын
Heck yeah! More talking about education! There is so much important work and imagining to be done about how education can work better for people.
@andpat1432
@andpat1432 14 күн бұрын
Bro, your channel is so good. I have learned so much about socialism, anarchism, and leftism in general and it has really help me understand why I believe what I believe so much better. Keep up the good work seriously!
@Andrewism
@Andrewism 14 күн бұрын
Glad to hear it, thank you!
@royalbandit8106
@royalbandit8106 13 күн бұрын
Something you might be interested in Andrew is Ireland's preschool curriculum framework "Aistear", which I believe avoides the authoritarian relationship between teacher and student to focus on the child's agency and observing their periodic growth and interests. Our primary school curriculum was actually updated very recently, taking on board some of Aistears' framework. Aka, plagiarised it 😂
@LongDefiant
@LongDefiant 13 күн бұрын
I would love it if anarchist efforts could think big. What would it take to eventually build your own schools? Provide your own food? Housing? Security? Taking over capitalism isn't enough. We have to build durable institutions we can pass on to our children.
@Andrewism
@Andrewism 13 күн бұрын
Prefigurative Politics
@LongDefiant
@LongDefiant 13 күн бұрын
@@Andrewism Most anarchists aren't comfortable with the idea of wielding power, even as a community.
@aturchomicz821
@aturchomicz821 13 күн бұрын
​@LongDefiant And thats why yall will always fail, god save us
@dastardly_dahlia
@dastardly_dahlia 14 күн бұрын
As an educator, I want and try so badly to have these ideas implemented in how I operate within the institution of traditional general education. Thank you for sharing this!
@BlackAnarchist1992
@BlackAnarchist1992 14 күн бұрын
From one teacher to another I would suggest the book Lessons In Liberation An Abolitionist Toolkit For Educators by Education For Liberation Network & Critical Resistance Editorial Collective.
@dastardly_dahlia
@dastardly_dahlia 14 күн бұрын
@BlackAnarchist1992 thank you
@BlackAnarchist1992
@BlackAnarchist1992 14 күн бұрын
@@dastardly_dahlia No Problem
@Andre-qo5ek
@Andre-qo5ek 14 күн бұрын
a question: do you mean just in teaching method? or would you gut the entire curriculum? my teachers taught the curriculum and additionally invoked skepticism, curiosity to explore ideas, accepted challenge.... i totally accept that i just had awesome teachers. but could you ( as a teacher) expand on if you would keep the curriculum and work in thee less hierarchical methods? or ... what exactly. i just don't have the perspective from how this works in reality.
@BlackAnarchist1992
@BlackAnarchist1992 14 күн бұрын
@@Andre-qo5ek Good question and in my case in particular the best I could do is adjust my teaching method given that the curriculum is nonnegotiable. Also my classroom structure would change to negate hierarchy as much as possible.
@abikleinsmith
@abikleinsmith 13 күн бұрын
I was kind of nervous about this video when I first saw the title, but this is well-researched and thoughtful, with real solutions from actual experts. I am getting my master’s in curriculum and instruction, and everything you talked about, we learned in our classes and discussed. One topic I researched recently was adult education, aka andragogy. As the amount of needed knowledge grows, it’s something I think we need. We need to let everyone be able to learn at the pace they want to and are able to learn.
@ssi-ruuk9396
@ssi-ruuk9396 14 күн бұрын
As someone home educated for a while, before going back to schooling for 6th form in the UK. I hate the education system it's so strangling.
@JoakimHaglandHjorthen
@JoakimHaglandHjorthen 11 күн бұрын
There exists a system that works: agora. I'm 17 and I'm attending a new experimental school system where i don't have teachers or classes. Rather, i have mentors and projects. Instead of covering the corriculum by listening to how a teacher interperated it, i get to cover it by exploring ideas that peak my own curiosity. I can have a project about some random topic like gaming, there is a lot gaming can teach us about society, and how humans behave in groups. I personally have taken an interest in philosophy and have covered a lot of social science subjects by studying the work of people like peter sibger, kafka, and edgar allan poe. I also have friends who have had more sciency projects about aerodynamics, and i myself have studied mushrooms and potatoes. This became a bit ranty, but I would encourage to look agora up. It is a system that produces independent, critically thinking, lifelong learners, and research has shown that people graduating from this system have had more success in university than the average learner because of the research skills and independence we gain. Rant over.
@PanEtRosa
@PanEtRosa 11 күн бұрын
sounds like Sego Lily school in Utah 🤔
@JoakimHaglandHjorthen
@JoakimHaglandHjorthen 10 күн бұрын
@@PanEtRosa think I've heard of one in Utah, they're all across the world. Mine is in europe (won't tell which country cuz it's the only one in the country)
@then_comes_dudley9142
@then_comes_dudley9142 13 күн бұрын
i teach english and design at a few schools in italy, and it drives me insane how heavily they lean on standardized testing. specifically the cambridge curriculum for english learning, which feels absolutely awful for learning a language. the focus on tests and certificates as a gauge of "language proficiency" is miserable, and seems to drain the willpower from learning a foreign language. i've been far more successful in learning italian than every other time i tried learning a foreign language in US schools, specifically because my personal approach has been completely different from how schools taught me. but trying to impart that to students while also staying within standardized testing parameters often feels like a square-peg-round-hole approach, and it's really demoralizing. there's a little more flexibility in teaching design & technology, but even that tends to be fairly restrictive. still, even when i *do* try doing things differently, it's very difficult for the students to really grasp it, when their other teachers follow the banking approach & punish students for making mistakes
@mjgould1192
@mjgould1192 6 күн бұрын
What would be the alternative to standardized testing? How would you measure who is learning the material and who isn’t? Testing has also been shown in cognitive psychology to improve learning.
@E_Fuh
@E_Fuh 13 күн бұрын
At my primary school they had a Montessori, a school system which I think is good and fits within this ideology, I would love to see someone talk about this!
@johntr5964
@johntr5964 14 күн бұрын
I’m about a year away from getting my teaching degree. I hope I can introduce some radical initiatives in my classroom like creative writing, basic ecology, astronomy and theater. I also want to integrate visits to parks, museums etc. into the overall education, as well as outside classrooms in fields and forests If that’s possible. Overall, I’m pretty new to teaching, and I have still a lot of stuff to clear out and understand, and that video was perfect as another step in that process.
@dcorgard
@dcorgard 13 күн бұрын
Bravo! It's utter sadness how much real human potential has been, and continues to be, wasted...
@corenisveryconfused
@corenisveryconfused 14 күн бұрын
I love your videos criticizing education systems so much. I'm getting annoyed with the way in reaction to right wing attacks on public education, liberals and leftists both have been getting into the habit of glorifying the education system despite it's role in perpetuating capitalism and traumatizing most disabled kids at least who are put through it.
@jannetteberends8730
@jannetteberends8730 12 күн бұрын
The Dutch kids are the happiest kids in the world according to UNICEF. Part of that happiness is in the school system, where kids are taking seriously. And their opinions are valued. Just like they are at home. Dutch kids in elementary school call their teachers by their Christian name. The authority of the teacher is based on his knowledge, not on his position. I’m a retired high school teacher. Students are debating and having discussions with their teachers a lot. My best argument always was: “because I say so.” They were perplexed, they were so unfamiliar with that concept. 😀
@rileyabarker
@rileyabarker 14 күн бұрын
The Kamala joke was perfect 😭
@Gaiandreamer
@Gaiandreamer 3 күн бұрын
There is an increasing amount of critics of the education system, which makes the timing ripe for change. Thank you Andrewism for posting this. I was surprised John Talyor Gatto was not mentioned as there is a KZfaq channel of his works. His book "Weapons of Mass Destruction" documents the influence of Rockefeller, Carnegie, et al on American education. As a geoscientist with a Master's degree in Education, i became aware of the shortcomings of schooling to make me a competent geoscientist, which requires a systems thinking perspective. Public schooling diminished that ability. Watching Americans in their divide over political leaders is evidence of the effects of public schooling. Their choice of who will be next President is heartbreaking, although the control of these figureheads is Corporate elites. This trend is global. Parents play a major role in pressuring their school boards to adopt programs now being offered, such as High Tech High, Moonshot Incubator, Take Me Outside, Forest Schools..... We have the ability to take back control, through real education!
@jeweldagod854
@jeweldagod854 8 күн бұрын
I couldn’t find any other way to explain it but your videos always fill me with a sense of joy. All your videos have history, a thorough explanation of the problem w an analysis and an offering of solutions that fills me with hopeful optimism. I think that’s a problem with left is that we don’t have enough discourse about what our world could be because we’re too busy defending our position against bad faith actors and fascists who don’t even read theory enough to care. Feels good to get a different more optimistic perspective once in a while.
@GilbertoAponte-b4m
@GilbertoAponte-b4m 8 күн бұрын
Great to see this! Greetings from your friends over at the Human Restoration Project!
@axShinsei
@axShinsei 13 күн бұрын
Another beautiful expansive and expanding video essay. Much appreciation and sharing it all around.
@o.m.a.22
@o.m.a.22 14 күн бұрын
Enjoying these videos. Thought provoking
@TheseAreMyHooves
@TheseAreMyHooves 11 күн бұрын
Man, you get my dreaming glands going ;) ... i just turned 30 but im still yearning for a productive and free learning experience with other people of all ages. All the instututions of learning that are yet available have always stifled me and my journey in life, even arts university. I sincerely hope something more along our lines becomes available in our lifetimes. Im down to working towards setting up such an environment if I find other likeminded and driven people...
@JuriAmari
@JuriAmari 11 күн бұрын
I agree. I’m 31 and I’m tired of how institutions are shutting the door if you’re not in your teens/20s and/or rich. My parents have also encouraged me to do education; I can kinda see that for myself but I don’t want to do it under a traditional grading structure. I’ve always loved the arts and want to get better at them. I know there are self-taught artists out there. But there are some people who need a supportive community or an extra helping hand to get to the other side. Experience and supportive communities are the greatest teachers.
@Lil1kv
@Lil1kv 6 күн бұрын
I am grateful to the internet, despite all of its flaws, for giving me access to so many resources and allowing me to learn about a variety of topics. Like a library, i could access what i wanted to and thus fostered in me a great love for earth and art. I also think that the ability to see the perspectives of so many people has allowed me to be more empathetic, and likely lead me to my anarchist philosophy today. Love the video as always!
@tavitafish
@tavitafish 15 сағат бұрын
When I was in high school, our history teacher gave me an award for "critical thinking". Later that day we were chatting and she explained that she gave it to me for my willingness to question what I was being taught, and question the authorities around me. One of the coolest teachers I had. She also gave me thumbs up when I got kicked out of class for "being a nuisance"
@bugga179
@bugga179 14 күн бұрын
I loved the ending where you explained because that always gets me. The guild idea imo is fantastic. I also think a increase in apprenticships is a big one.
@animal579
@animal579 4 күн бұрын
this video really made me rethink home schooled kids. Most of them I've talked with have great relationships with their parents, and in this context it makes way more sense and makes it seem conversely weird that I saw them as odd seeming from their very calm and non chalant attitude. Their parents probably had a much more collaborative atmosphere (or at least less authoritative) and especially in the sense of focusing on getting through the state mandatory education vs the tumultuous nature of dragging out primary education years with memorization and busy work tasks; most of the home schoolers I know also finished their diplomas much earlier than public school kids. On the flip side I at the time had a giant anti-authoritarian chip on my shoulder that prevented me from challenging and moving past some of these toxic systems to better my own education even when I saw that we were not truly being educated for learning.
@yokaipinata1416
@yokaipinata1416 14 күн бұрын
You have incredible timing, and this for two reasons. The first, that I randomly thought to see if there was anything new on your channel one hour after this upload. The second, that I've lately been fixated on the fact that the education system, for all its (evidently spurious) claims that it prepares one for life, fails to cover many everyday skills. It clicked back when I began trying to learn to cook that that's a skill I should have been taught in my teens. Later, I caught word that in some countries, a subject used to exist named home economics that covered such things as cooking, housekeeping, finances, etc. But even that subject was part of the true, hierarchical purpose of the education system, as the goal was to mold women to patriarchal gender roles. Thing is, I was thinking of setting off a campaign to get my country's education system to implement a modern version of home ec that isn't patriarchal and instead is built on the premise of "this is stuff _everyone_ should learn". However, seeing this video makes me wonder if this really is the optimal approach to the issue. Whether trying to introduce courses providing actual life skills into a system not designed for it would be a doomed, "square peg, round hole" project. And how else the goal of "ensure people learn this necessary skillset they probably aren't learning" could be achieved instead. I'll need to give it a lot of thought, but I was thinking something like organizing community workshops? ❤
@Vaeldarg
@Vaeldarg 13 күн бұрын
Could maybe look into modeling those workshops off his video on expanding the concept of libraries. If it's something everyone should learn, the information needs to be as available as possible, as well as the skill's minimally-required tools for hands-on learning.
@psikeyhackr6914
@psikeyhackr6914 13 күн бұрын
We should have created a K-12 National Recommended Reading List decades ago. Most people do not seem to discover what they are actually interested in by high school graduation. The teachers expect students to be motivated by competing with each other. We got gold stars in early grammar school. I started reading Science Fiction in 4th grade. That exposed me to information and ideas that were not being taught. So to what degree is school mind control? I decided to go to college for engineering in 7th grade. *Teach Yourself Electricity and Electronics* by Stan Gibilisco
@Solstice261
@Solstice261 10 күн бұрын
I came from solar punk alana's video and the shift from British to a hard french accent was something, really cool collaboration on a very important topic
@helengrives1546
@helengrives1546 8 күн бұрын
Thank you. I really enjoyed this thorough exposé.
@ricktownend9144
@ricktownend9144 13 күн бұрын
Many thanks for your great summary - I read Ivan Illich much earlier in life, but I'll re-watch this video to pick up about some of the other people you talk about. My experience of schools is in the UK; a great hindrance to reform is that probably 99% of people who decide to be teachers actually enjoyed school as they experienced it, and have very little empathy with the quite large number of people who find it difficult. From talking to people who go through 'teacher-training', I know that some issues are being tackled, such as that different people learn in different ways, but I still meet dreadful teachers who declaim at social gatherings that 'all children need to be pushed'. One thing I learned at my school was not what the establishment intended - how people behave in a mob. While the teacher-warders were having their break, all sorts of nasty behaviours were going on! Look forward to your next video
@LifeInJambles
@LifeInJambles 13 күн бұрын
Sheeeeeeeeesh, what an absolute banger. Gods, you are just bonkers eloquent. I love your shit, keep it up!
@artemkanarchist
@artemkanarchist 10 күн бұрын
Thank you for your work!🖤🏴🖤
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 12 күн бұрын
Appreciate the effort here
@gunnasintern
@gunnasintern 12 күн бұрын
thank you so much for this video. ive hates the education system since i was in elementary which also shaped my view on US education as a whole which is part of why university never interested me. the path to get to where i am has been awry, but at the end of the day i’m glad i chose this path because it led me to this video and other likeminded ppl
@Sirianta
@Sirianta 13 күн бұрын
Another amazing video.
@nirilluche
@nirilluche 14 күн бұрын
amazing video c: ..also, to think that even just more freedom of movement could change the atmosphere of classrooms so much, it would be so easy too :c ..always pitch ideas for a better living environment to your local councils!
@Weird0W
@Weird0W 8 күн бұрын
PLEASE. More videos like this. Anarchy and children. Really anything you have to say about children has been exactly the type of "parenting" content have been hoping to find. Love it. Thank you.
@stephenlangsl67
@stephenlangsl67 5 күн бұрын
When I was 11 years old, I went to an abusive private school in New Jersey. All of the teachers in that school as well as the administrators were very manipulative, condescending, overbearing, and domineering towards Me and, not surprisingly, it made Me very much afraid to go to school. In fact, I had this fantasy about that ridiculously oppressive private school burning down to the ground and being replaced with a parking lot. It was not until the end of the school year that My Parents found out exactly what was going on in that school and, lucky for Me, I never attended that school again.
@PFIO
@PFIO 14 күн бұрын
As a former social worker this video is simply enlightening. Thank You!
@mitchellbratton6617
@mitchellbratton6617 13 күн бұрын
I always come out of these videos from Andrew asking myself " how can I apply this in my classroom?" and even though it makes me excited to imagine all the possible changes, the reality of having to deal with the current school system at the same time and sometimes even when they act as a deterrent is scary, frustrating and paralyzing. This is coming from a US educator who learned in Brazil, where we love Paulo Freire in Education, he's our saint and our school system still isn't even close to resembling his ideals or many other incredible Brazilian educators. It's like punching a wall expecting it to say "uncle uncle I give up"... but walls don't talk. It's a long and arduous fight but I'll keep fighting. If anyone here is a teacher or just someone who would like to promote a knowledge sharing event in South Florida let's exchange some contacts and ideas!
@suvajeetdatta1220
@suvajeetdatta1220 12 күн бұрын
This reminded me of Shantiniketan, a school founded by Rabindranath Tagore, a poet, novelist and humanist. I live in the homeland of Tagore, yet all I've ever been taught about Shantiniketan is that he wanted to teach the students under the trees and not in classrooms (which taught British curriculum at the time). Hardly any people know about how community and nature focused the original teachings of Tagore were at Shantiniketan.
@Socabebe
@Socabebe 5 күн бұрын
💯 such a good video.
@SolarpunkSeed
@SolarpunkSeed 13 күн бұрын
Love this. Another important element of the postcapitalist metasolutions. Rising property taxes - which are used as rationale for increased property prices and ever-rising "cost of living" - justify themselves as needed to pay for more public education. Our third space free makerspace café project integrates decentralized "open learning" - similar to the free school model and 42 in San Francisco and Paris, with no formal teachers and livestream options for everything. That's fascinating that you were home schooled. I think AI and AR can play a really helpful role too. See: the Primer in Neal Stephenson's nanotech epic The Diamond Age.
@EmonWBKstudios
@EmonWBKstudios 14 күн бұрын
School never taught me anything except how to be a good slave to the system.
@TheKingWhoWins
@TheKingWhoWins 12 күн бұрын
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@48038
@48038 11 күн бұрын
Well said
@michaelajames99
@michaelajames99 8 күн бұрын
What did you do outside of school?
@caiooliveira4964
@caiooliveira4964 8 күн бұрын
As someone who will likely become a teacher in the future, I love this video because it shows me exactly what I always believed, but never knew (I hate the idea of teaching as we have, but I can't help myself; everything that I like doesn't lead to any other professions)
@YourCapyBra_3Dpipesa90sspecial
@YourCapyBra_3Dpipesa90sspecial 14 күн бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, any alternative model, so long as it is positive and life-affirming, of school, society, or life, is desperately needed now. Our societies are at a tipping point I believe and I truly hope we make the right decisions over these next 100 years.... If we good guys don't win out, I truly fear for the future of this planet. Whether one believes in an afterlife or not, shouldn't we strive to make life on this planet as positive and affirming for as many people as possible? I mean why not?? why strive for anything else BUT that? Why else are we here? You don't have to believe in religious thought to believe that we should strive to create a humane world versus an INhumane one. Isn't one more inherently right than the other???? I certainly think so.
@jose.montojah
@jose.montojah 12 күн бұрын
As educators, this is nothing new to hear but always refreshing it is to see someone try and implement this. The french military academic model of Disciplines and lectures is quite _pasè_ and we now aim for continuous and lifelong learning models. Social learning, constructivism and decolonizing education models are always welcome for You all to try and set up. Watch out tho, for the empire strikes back
@somnambuplant
@somnambuplant 14 күн бұрын
thanks for the vid! i would love to hear thoughts on what we can do as people who are employed full time seeking to give our kids creativity and initiative, a lot of these ideas seem like a great roadmap for longterm social change but leave me unsure what i would do if i had a kid today, but then i just worked a shift so maybe my comprehension is just low rn. anyway thanks, keep it up please!
@Andrewism
@Andrewism 14 күн бұрын
That's the tough part unfortunately and I wish I had a satisfying answer. I have seen some people somehow make it work incorporating aspects of deschooling-style homeschooling while working full time, but in reality I think a lot of social change is going to be dependent on us first reclaiming our time. We hardly have the time and energy to do anything when work takes up so much of our precious waking hours. As you said, you just came off a shift, and I know that feeling of being mentally drained. That fight for our time, likely through a combination of union efforts and building viable alternative economies that can support people, is gonna be necessary to give people that first leg up of independence that can serve as a catalyst for more robust action as described here. Each person's ability to engage in such activities is gonna be deeply personal and circumstantial, but I hope the ideas I've suggested can serve as some inspiration to get the brainstorm going!
@Lucifersfursona
@Lucifersfursona 14 күн бұрын
This video fulfills my key good content requirements of - further clarifies the ways cannibalism of the electric soul both in self and superposition is really damn baked in there and the ways it manifests in creating authority, hatred of human life, and fixation on death - confirming something I always felt but gave benefit of the doubt and could never articulate the feeling of - both deep connection with my fellow humankind, and a deep connection to a superposition of horror and rage this has been done to us - would be soooo gratifying to slap across the faces of mid-2010s HP fans who were whole cloth endorsing some if not all of Joanne Rogan’s Thatcherite ideologies
@Lucifersfursona
@Lucifersfursona 14 күн бұрын
Video explains why college took away my ability to read at length and learning anarchism slowly over ~8 years brought it back. There is nothing more uplifting and empowering and hopeful, than realizing if you don’t know something, you can learn it. I still don’t read like I used to but that’s more about how now I don’t trust like that 😢
@Lucifersfursona
@Lucifersfursona 14 күн бұрын
“Did you know that not only is a better world possible, but it has existed willfully and beautifully hundreds of thousands of times before?” 😢 “Did you realize the extent to which it was knowingly stolen from you on purpose?” 🤬
@addammadd
@addammadd 13 күн бұрын
I educate my child at home, I use Freire and Illich and bell hooks as my pedagogical models. She is thriving. Existence before essence. Scholé over school.
@darkchocolategirl51
@darkchocolategirl51 5 күн бұрын
Excellent content. This is why the school system is broken. That's what some students are not engaged because they are not truly learning. Thanks so much and the list of books.
@LucidiaRising
@LucidiaRising 14 күн бұрын
SUDBURY VALLEY EDUCATION FOR THE WIN
@the_Analogist4011
@the_Analogist4011 9 күн бұрын
Andrewism pisses me off. These leftists hated Sudbury way back in the 60's. For them the political agenda is paramount. All failed revolutions follow the model set by freire, build a one party coalition that magically doesn't abuse its power once it has it
@WillowKittyGD
@WillowKittyGD 14 күн бұрын
new andrewism video yippee
@hypergraphic
@hypergraphic 12 күн бұрын
I guess I am an outlier in that I really enjoyed the academic side of school, it was the social side of relating to other students that was hard for me. However I was always an avid reader and loved the freedom of spending hours in the library just perusing every topic under the sun, so I get that the school system is inherently limited. While I don't like the trend I see of getting rid of objective metrics in education as it doesn't make differences go away it just hides them, I do see that for most students the importance of getting good grades is mostly from social pressure and not how it impacts them in life. So then Andrew, when are you opening your first school? :)
@kokopelli314
@kokopelli314 7 күн бұрын
I have teacher friends, many of whom understand this at a gut level but feel helpless to break the mold of industrial worker production.
@clockworkgnome
@clockworkgnome 13 күн бұрын
I still have so much unlearning to do coming out of the institution…Of course as always learning and relearning things along the way.
@henriikkakamula9467
@henriikkakamula9467 6 күн бұрын
The banking model of education sucks the life out of knowledge." Thank you for putting into words what I've been feeling for most of my life
@crouchingidiot
@crouchingidiot 11 күн бұрын
I only attended high school for six months before I had to be pulled out and moved to a different, much smaller school. It was extremely traumatic, and I felt like harming myself was the only way to cope with that (which my teachers noticed and did nothing about btw). I likely would have done much better if I had an IEP, but no support was ever offered to me. I was expected to just know how to function, and when I couldn’t because I have ADHD and autism, the school abandoned me, and did nothing as I struggled. I know I’m not the only one who has slipped through the cracks like that, and no student should ever have that experience. School shouldn’t be hell, it shouldn’t make kids want to die, and I and many others have had that exact experience attending school.
@ChaosResearchParty
@ChaosResearchParty 13 күн бұрын
Yessss I feel particularly excited about the possibilities of the virtual (even if sadly it has been rapidly taken over by gargantuan corporatism) spaces and digital interfaces to breach our physical limitations of connections. Online games with the correct level of player participation and ownership could foster empathy and collaboration across the world like very few other pieces of culture can! Open source is also such a blatantly simple way of accepting that knowledge is a common effort. We all build on top each other's work. The war for intellectual property is to education what Monsanto is to farming. Are we perhaps always collaborating, just don't have the ability to measure how much of our "individual" output is build on top of previous human effort? *And more relevant to educational experiences: Bullying is such an obvious byproduct of hierarchical-standardized educational institutions. I managed to survive it without getting too hurt. Some old friends didn't. And some classmates were bullied BY THE TEACHERS because of their different origin/situation, effectively creating a safe-spot for more bullying to happen. D I S T U R B I N G
@lynnboartsdye1943
@lynnboartsdye1943 10 күн бұрын
I’ve always felt out of place in the school system (blame my neurospicy brain lol) I hated the idea of earning some arbitrary thing of success that legitimized whatever I was learning. It felt out of reach and I couldn’t feel like I had the ability to explore unless it was on the internet. The people around me built up university like it was more free and you had unlimited choice but when I got there it was even more restrictive than Highschool. Why can’t we explore topics or classes outside of a degree program? Why isn’t there an option for those who don’t wish to earn a degree to just explore courses at their leasure? It’s maddening!
@alvisemacente7986
@alvisemacente7986 9 күн бұрын
I was just recently researching this topic, so this video arrives at the perfect time! I wanted to ask you: what's your opinion of Summerhill school? In my (brief) research it looked the closest existing school to the one you are describing in the video.
@karlmoore1837
@karlmoore1837 14 күн бұрын
Best bit of learning at school I had was doing a BTEC in engineering. It was very much not what you get in regular education from 5-16 yrs in the UK.
@alexmunroe8230
@alexmunroe8230 14 күн бұрын
38 seconds ago wow. Luv u Andrew PS fuck the capitalist school system
@SpiritVines
@SpiritVines 14 күн бұрын
12 mins beat that
@pelothewitness
@pelothewitness 13 күн бұрын
I think this might be my favourite KZfaq channel
@maickelvieira
@maickelvieira 14 күн бұрын
14:30 this painting is simply divine, i cant described how powerful how much meaningful it is.
@Andrewism
@Andrewism 14 күн бұрын
I recently discovered Rob Gonsalves, he has many like it!
@NoOne-go3ml
@NoOne-go3ml 7 күн бұрын
Please do a video talking about the Really Really Free Market Projects they are right up your alley
@DJCole34
@DJCole34 12 күн бұрын
And sending people to jail for not going is crazy.
@MossCoveredBonez
@MossCoveredBonez 14 күн бұрын
Glad to see that prussian education model mentioned. Crucial for critiqing education today
@Rat__Wife
@Rat__Wife 8 күн бұрын
Every day I am more and more grateful that I left teaching at a traditional school to work for a Montessori elementary. Now if only we could go back to Maria Montessori’s intention and make it available for all children- not just those privileged enough to afford private education or who live within the boundaries of the few public Montessori schools.
@bethhankoff3797
@bethhankoff3797 12 күн бұрын
Wow! This is so in line with my thinking on education. We need radical change in the US. ❤
@electricVGC
@electricVGC 14 күн бұрын
It feels really difficult to articulate the problems with formal education to non anarchists. I appreciate you bringing this together.
@niersu
@niersu 12 күн бұрын
The only thing I learned from school is that I am worth nothing.
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