We NEED to talk about this abomination of a sword

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Shadiversity

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10 ай бұрын

We've crossed a katana with an arming sword, but what do we call it?
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@eMercody
@eMercody 10 ай бұрын
It might be called 洋刀 or “yougatana” (Yōgatana) if we’re making things up. It would translate to “western style sword/ katana.”
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord 10 ай бұрын
Tyranth himself dubbed it the Sword of Content last video
@shawndodson5556
@shawndodson5556 10 ай бұрын
How about Gaijin-tana?
@jeusmarcomascarina4102
@jeusmarcomascarina4102 10 ай бұрын
I am thinking of what could be looks a double bladed sword with katana hilt but ?I just remember Chinese long sword
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 10 ай бұрын
Artana.
@Scuzzlebutt142
@Scuzzlebutt142 10 ай бұрын
The closest in form to a existing design would be a Swiss Sabre, as it pretty much meets all the characteristics of one, just with an exotic origin for the blade.
@davidkueny2444
@davidkueny2444 10 ай бұрын
The Longsword gets the name "Bastard Sword" in a lot of RPGs. So I recommend "Bastard Katana." I think Tyranth can get behind the name.
@michaelyoung7261
@michaelyoung7261 10 ай бұрын
Bastard Katana is better than Shatana imo
@sketchystruggles5361
@sketchystruggles5361 10 ай бұрын
Bastard sword or hand and a half sword is called that because it’s between a one handed sword and a long sword attributes. So bastard katana really fits.
@Devin_Stromgren
@Devin_Stromgren 10 ай бұрын
It works on multiple levels.
@jonas_telmo
@jonas_telmo 10 ай бұрын
Or a Bastard Scimitar
@tristanellis-mascoll1171
@tristanellis-mascoll1171 10 ай бұрын
Well the bastardsword in rpgs is more the inbetween from a longsword and a greatsword. Which was long time the used definition, until the 2000s hit and even small swords get called big swords.
@TiagoHackbarth
@TiagoHackbarth 10 ай бұрын
Come on, this is a TRUE Bastard Sword! Finally something that really deserves the name.
@khartog01
@khartog01 9 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking.
@nunyabeezwax6758
@nunyabeezwax6758 8 ай бұрын
And an AWESOME bastard it is! The best of east and west! :D
@captainmaim
@captainmaim 5 ай бұрын
Maybe a bastard son-of-a-bitch sword...
@tobytoxd
@tobytoxd 3 ай бұрын
By that logic I ask you: Who is the king and who the whore then?
@cjtheprop-maker
@cjtheprop-maker 10 ай бұрын
I can't believe Shad and Tyron still haven't realised that they've essentially unintentionally made a book-accurate Wheel of Time sword.
@marcosalexandre9783
@marcosalexandre9783 10 ай бұрын
Same dude
@celebril
@celebril 10 ай бұрын
I would disagree. It is a Grayson sword like the one Honor used as Protectors Champion
@danpit2001
@danpit2001 10 ай бұрын
i said this on the build video
@cjtheprop-maker
@cjtheprop-maker 10 ай бұрын
@@danpit2001 Me too
@DanJoymonger
@DanJoymonger 10 ай бұрын
I also made the same reference, but after thinking about it, the sword from WoT is straighter up until close to the tip, then it curves. Still it's the closest we got.
@conanmaolcheann5088
@conanmaolcheann5088 10 ай бұрын
Shad introducing the sword to the world and Tyranth calling his creation an abomination gives off big Sauron and Celebrimbor energy
@ccox4669
@ccox4669 10 ай бұрын
Was not expecting Silmarillion references in KZfaq comments today…
@SockieTheSockPuppet
@SockieTheSockPuppet 10 ай бұрын
​@@ccox4669But I'm all for it.
@hisnotsolonely2961
@hisnotsolonely2961 10 ай бұрын
Just wait for somebody to become a pole
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 10 ай бұрын
"My father never loved me." ~Sword Of Tyanth.
@Acromion11
@Acromion11 10 ай бұрын
You mean when Sauron suggested to Celebrimbor to make an alloy?
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 10 ай бұрын
The Shatana of course
@adamglover6948
@adamglover6948 10 ай бұрын
The Shadtana
@dreadlordaxtonus6673
@dreadlordaxtonus6673 10 ай бұрын
No it is a already existing eastern sword like it IT IS EITHER A JAPANESE DASHI OR DACHI OR A CHINESE DAO SWORD LOOK THEM UP
@sesneflower
@sesneflower 10 ай бұрын
@@dreadlordaxtonus6673 (it's not)
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 10 ай бұрын
@@dreadlordaxtonus6673 This is literally a katana with a cross guard how exactly does it look like a Jitte or a Dao. They have no cross guard nor really any guard at all.
@madbrosheo1514
@madbrosheo1514 10 ай бұрын
Shatana? I ‘ardly know her!
@hanno_t
@hanno_t 10 ай бұрын
The comparison between both re-hilted "Scimitana" and "Katalong" will be super interesting. Love this project!
@J.sh_CDN
@J.sh_CDN 10 ай бұрын
I can wait to see the Katalong, I think it's going to look like a long spike
@xostler
@xostler 9 ай бұрын
I feel like the Chinese has a blade that looked like a scimitar with a katana hilt and handle.
@J.sh_CDN
@J.sh_CDN 9 ай бұрын
@xostler thinking of a Dao maybe? Single edged blade round blade guard but a more standard handle with a pommel
@xostler
@xostler 9 ай бұрын
@@J.sh_CDN yeah I think that’s it!
@Arcanefungus
@Arcanefungus 4 ай бұрын
Katalong sounds like a crappy name for a nodachi... "Behold!!! The KataLONG!"
@DamTheAbsolute
@DamTheAbsolute 9 ай бұрын
This show really needed Tyranth. No one else pushes back and argues with Shad the way he does. It adds so much to the show
@elitemook4234
@elitemook4234 10 ай бұрын
When Tiranth was a lad he looked up into the sky and made a wish to create the greatest sword ever designed. Little did he know the finger of nearby monkeys paw did close.
@masquerader101
@masquerader101 10 ай бұрын
7 years later, a zombie katana knocks on his door
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 10 ай бұрын
@@masquerader101 Tyranth asks, "If you are a zombie sword, are you a rusted corpse instead of a rotten corpse?"
@TheManofthecross
@TheManofthecross 10 ай бұрын
Fails
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 10 ай бұрын
@@TheManofthecross But to understand why Shad made a video on that.
@Sigil_Firebrand
@Sigil_Firebrand 10 ай бұрын
Gotta say I really like the Tiranth blade and I kind of want one now.
@skuripandaburns3489
@skuripandaburns3489 10 ай бұрын
Now you MUST make a Long sword with a tsuba, diamond wrap pinned hilt and no pommel.
@Trash2000s
@Trash2000s 10 ай бұрын
That would sho bad it would end up being sho good.
@TheChadPad
@TheChadPad 10 ай бұрын
The cursed longsword!
@einkar4219
@einkar4219 10 ай бұрын
this is law of equivalent exchange, for every good abomination there must be bad abomination
@captianbacon
@captianbacon 10 ай бұрын
I think that that'd look awsome...
@deadflight84
@deadflight84 10 ай бұрын
Yes. Bastardization of all swords shadisisation
@wayneswonderarium
@wayneswonderarium 10 ай бұрын
Shad's enthusiasm for crimes against swords is infectious
@spartanhawk7637
@spartanhawk7637 10 ай бұрын
I love how this entire saga's been Shad loving the sword and Tyranth slowly dying inside.
@williamforbesgaming827
@williamforbesgaming827 10 ай бұрын
It's a sword so legendary even the creator hated it. It is shrouded in mist as to its identity but a sword none the less.
@johnfairweather7012
@johnfairweather7012 9 ай бұрын
I immediately started thinking about guts' sword being described hahaha
@ericford911
@ericford911 10 ай бұрын
Katana: What are you? Scimitana: I’m you but better.
@ericford911
@ericford911 10 ай бұрын
And here comes the O-Scimitana with the spring steel chair!
@inferno769
@inferno769 10 ай бұрын
From the top rope!
@spiderenigma2803
@spiderenigma2803 10 ай бұрын
lmao i needed a good laugh
@the8madness905
@the8madness905 10 ай бұрын
There is a sword in Bloodborne called Chikage, which is a katana with a crossguard and an overly ornate hilt and pommel. This sword reminds me of it.
@Starless85
@Starless85 10 ай бұрын
I like that you and Tyranth are able to respectfully disagree so much. It’s interesting and a healthy dynamic.
@deviousdelibird
@deviousdelibird 6 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@brandanpalmer9712
@brandanpalmer9712 10 ай бұрын
God, I love it here. I’m a prototype engineer, programmer, and machinist. Making custom stuff (abominations) is a huge passion of mine. Never change, guys. Never change.
@bubzthetroll
@bubzthetroll 10 ай бұрын
What I love about this sword is that it's not some impossible fantasy sword. It's completely possible that a single example of such a sword could have existed but has been lost to history.
@Scuzzlebutt142
@Scuzzlebutt142 10 ай бұрын
They do exist, they're called Swiss sabers with a exotic blade, not an uncommon design, you just need to have a reasonable knowledge of swords to identify it.
@TelsMaviston
@TelsMaviston 10 ай бұрын
It's entirely possible some Japanese Smith or merchant brought a longsword with him from travels from afar, and then tried to incorporate aspects of it into a katana, but it just never caught on with the highly traditional samurai.Samurai. What would be more likely is if a Chinese merchant or Smith tried to modify a Katana and it just never went anywhere.
@stgibbs86
@stgibbs86 10 ай бұрын
@@Scuzzlebutt142 Its similar just like the kriegsmesser, but it isnt actually that. This literally uses a katana blade. The swiss were not importing katana blades from japan.
@kyleeames8229
@kyleeames8229 10 ай бұрын
When I originally watched the build video it made me imagine a scenario in which a Japanese sword smith got his hands on say, a European or middle eastern sword and thought, 「まあ、これオモロいやつやなぁ。なんとか作ってみようかなぁ。」 It’s hardly unprecedented. I recently learned of Ming dynasty Chinese sailors witnessing the combat effectiveness of ootou and uchigatana in the hands of Japanese pirates and basically imitated the design. There were notable design differences, but they remained popular in China well into the early 20th century, so pretty good weapons.
@Scuzzlebutt142
@Scuzzlebutt142 10 ай бұрын
@@stgibbs86 So what? This thing they created has a standard cross guard and pommel, just like the construction of a Swiss Saber. And using an imported blade is a very european thing, as they imported blades from all over and put them in their own furniture, didn't make them not an example of the sword just cause the blade was imported. If I came across this thing in the wild, and didn't have the backstory, I would classify it as a Swiss saber by its form. What components you used to form it really don't matter. The same way if you fit a Messer blade onto a haft, my first thought would be Naginata, not trying to make up a term for it.
@tcuegonbear
@tcuegonbear 10 ай бұрын
I feel like a "Swiss Saber" style hilt/hand protection with an actual katana blade would be the ideal outcome of this project.
@Rizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
@Rizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 10 ай бұрын
I am absolutely in love with that scimitana. Takes parts I adore about the scimitar and improves on what I don’t. Really wish I had one like that!
@VidelxSpopovich
@VidelxSpopovich 10 ай бұрын
It’s adorable how self conscious Tyranth is about his own work.
@masquerader101
@masquerader101 10 ай бұрын
Every artist is their own worst ______.
@ryigen83
@ryigen83 10 ай бұрын
Tytana lol
@AnakinTheWeird
@AnakinTheWeird 10 ай бұрын
bro your profile name is so cursed...
@ccelik97
@ccelik97 10 ай бұрын
Because both the quality of the replacement parts and the proportions are indeed far from ideal lol. No need to be an artist in the strict definition of the things to understand this. When you can do a lot better but you're tasked to lower your standards for a project (that you actually would've been also interested in otherwise), it stings. So I understand him. That said, despite all the technical jank he did well. :D
@reverendbernfriedaxewielde8443
@reverendbernfriedaxewielde8443 10 ай бұрын
He is like God in that regard. He hates his own creation. 😅 Oh wait, that's not funny.😬
@bow-tiedengineer4453
@bow-tiedengineer4453 10 ай бұрын
as a physics student, E=.5mv^2. You have slightly more mass in motion, and the mass that's there is moving faster, therefore you will apply more energy in the strike, increasing the force applied and the cutting capacity. The weight distribution thing works because, by putting the mass further from the point of rotation, you increase the moment arm and the speed of that mass, allowing it to store more energy in it's motion, but adding the counterbalance doesn't decrease the moment arm of the existing mass, it only adds more mass.
@yappeyatwow
@yappeyatwow 10 ай бұрын
You used the proper science words to describe what I was thinking during the video.
@pandabosch
@pandabosch 10 ай бұрын
It reminds me of Mugen's sword in Samurai Champloo. Mugen's sword has a guard like a blade like a katana, a guard like a sai, and a hilt like a jian. It's a mashup of different weapons kind of like your own.
@SterlingArmory
@SterlingArmory 10 ай бұрын
I wish we could work with you guys on these! Would be a lot of fun and Chris has actually done this exercise before. Just to add, heavier overall swords do not necessarily hit harder, it really does depend on distribution of that mass and how it's used (ie balance point, and how it's swung). An easy way to see this is a variety of feders and sparring swords. If the POB is pulled way back to the guard compared to farther out POBs, they tend to hit a lot lighter, no matter the overall weight. OH! and if you want to do a larger O katana with a euro grip, I think a 1060 blade would be much better than a 1040 blade. Only because those makers tend to really nail the heat treat with 1060 more consistently.
@ZealotFeathers
@ZealotFeathers 10 ай бұрын
“This is not the only abomination we are going to be making.” Tyrinth dying inside
@superkamehameha1744
@superkamehameha1744 10 ай бұрын
The chaotic professional energy between them two is amazing. Even more chaotic when Nate is present. Shadiversity becoming the boys channel is definitely the best thing that ever happened to shadiversity
@Thought_Processing_
@Thought_Processing_ 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for going into the detail on differences between the two handed falchion, the Keigsmesser and the Tyranth blade.
@J.sh_CDN
@J.sh_CDN 10 ай бұрын
You know, these sword mod videos, starting from the Machete Falchion to this, have been my absolutely favourite videos and i eagerly await them! Thanks for this!
@blazingshadow4688
@blazingshadow4688 10 ай бұрын
i love how shad is just laughing like a disney villan when getting tyrinth to admit 2 sided swords have more versatility in a fight
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 10 ай бұрын
Shad: "We improved the katana" Also Shad: "This is an abomination"
@badrequest5596
@badrequest5596 10 ай бұрын
i agree with ty that the pommel looks weird and a different pommel would look and feel better probably. maybe a pommel like the one in the kriegsmesser. the handle looks a bit chonky as well and i noticed they didnt remove the menuki on the handle but wrapped on top of it, which makes it look chonkier. but overall doesn't look too bad. i always thought a katana would be better with a crossguard but also keeping the rings around it, like in some tournament long swords
@bryanpillow4144
@bryanpillow4144 10 ай бұрын
I love watching this kind of stuff. Not just a review, but some guys that love swords genuinely having fun with them! It’s like watching a gearhead’s channel where you’d see something like “I put a Lamborghini engine in this Jeep. Let’s see what she can do!” kind of thing. It’s obvious you are enjoying yourselves and it’s contagious! Thanks for the fun watch!
@xyrthor
@xyrthor 10 ай бұрын
I loved the feature of Fallout 4 where you could customize you weapons, like changing up the receiver, muzzle etc. and you'd get different effects. It would be fun if you could do the same in a fantasy game with medieval style weapons.
@jackrose6996
@jackrose6996 9 ай бұрын
There was a game that allowed you to do that, but not nearly to the extent that it should have. It was called Vagrant Story. I played it for about 2 weeks when it was released, and didn't think about it much until now.
@semperanticusphotography3749
@semperanticusphotography3749 10 ай бұрын
The sword is a really cool experiment and I dig it. I also love how uncomfortable Tyranth is with his creation; I can feel his mental pain and it is horribly enjoyable when showcased with Shad's enthusiasm.
@Dfarrey
@Dfarrey 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget, there is historical precedent for swords being rehilted with a different style of hilt. I believe the pata (Indian gauntlet sword) was often made with a preexisting sword blade that was originally a more like a European longsword.
@akumabito2008
@akumabito2008 10 ай бұрын
Naginata (katana-on-a-stick) were often made using recycled katana blades.
@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 10 ай бұрын
I can't believe Shad and Tyranth are essentially doing the sword equivalent of the "are you into girls with big boobs or big butts?" argument, and PS Shad is right... in more ways than one Also we should agree that the name of that specific sword, but not the sword type but that specific one, should be the abomination
@jaysonstewart3537
@jaysonstewart3537 10 ай бұрын
The scimitana reminds me of the description of Rand’s sword in Wheel of Time. I kind of like it. Innovative, unique and something new. Strong work!
@mehdia5924
@mehdia5924 10 ай бұрын
There's also a fantasy anime from 1998 named the Vision of Escaflowne, in which the characters used to wield swords like this. The blades looked oriental as the Japanese katana, but the guards were exactly like the one you made.
@hian
@hian 10 ай бұрын
This comment. I've always been a huge fan of Katana with Western guards. It's been used in Japanese fantasy for over two decades, and they are awesome.
@johnstuartkeller5244
@johnstuartkeller5244 10 ай бұрын
Sabre? Falchion? Swordtana? With the hilt construcrion, it is a katana hilt ... rather similar to a messer ... but with a sword pommel ... Falchion. Or swordtana. Let's ask a katana and antiquities expert: "A sword?" - Connor MacLeod
@myusername3689
@myusername3689 10 ай бұрын
Or an actual medieval soldier: A long knife
@TheCaniblcat
@TheCaniblcat 10 ай бұрын
The perfect name already exists: The BASTARD SWORD! :P
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 10 ай бұрын
The sword shall be known as heron
@johnstuartkeller5244
@johnstuartkeller5244 10 ай бұрын
@@TheCaniblcat Wow ... it's so obvious, but so elegant ... I'm ashamed I didn't think of it!
@johnstuartkeller5244
@johnstuartkeller5244 10 ай бұрын
@@wolfbane7497 So long as it isn't a red heron. I'd hate to think this was all a ruse.
@zoddlander
@zoddlander 10 ай бұрын
Fun video guys! Its always very interesting hearing your thoughts on sword construction! Now, please save the kreigsmesser from anymore destruction! Its my favorit so far!
@arconreef
@arconreef 8 ай бұрын
I don't think that adding mass anywhere on a sword could allow you to accelerate it faster (except in a gravity assisted strike). Adding a pommel can make a sword easier to handle, but it won't help you swing it faster.
@Roland3ld
@Roland3ld 10 ай бұрын
Between scimitana and shabbard, the puns you guys come up with for naming things are amazing. I am known for loving puns and your guys' puns are top tier. Also, if you guys make a follow-up using an o-katana blade, would that make it an o-scimitana? And would it then be large enough to put in a shabbard? It would be great seeing your original designs in conjunction.
@ToaCody1
@ToaCody1 10 ай бұрын
In my opinion that would be pushing odachi territory.
@luciferneverchanges5841
@luciferneverchanges5841 10 ай бұрын
It's a Bastard sword, an unholy fusion that somehow works. I love it.
@marvinzegarra
@marvinzegarra 5 ай бұрын
There's a video on Ask Seki Sensei where the kenjutsu master tries a european style sword for the first time. One of the first things he comments is that the bigger guard would mean he has to rethink a lot of his techniques, since they usually do the downward strike from over the head and the cross guard would cause him to hit himself.
@cardinalhamneggs5253
@cardinalhamneggs5253 9 ай бұрын
My first impression of the crossguard katana, having not seen the build video: It looks like a shorter version of one of the long narrow-blades falchions I saw in a previous Shadiversity video about falchions.
@BLS31
@BLS31 10 ай бұрын
I'd still say Nanban-tachi, like I said before. It's a katana in the style of the Nanban, the foreigners (the Portuguese) that arrived from the south.
@BLS31
@BLS31 10 ай бұрын
It also calls to mind the Nanban-do Gusoku, or Southern Foreigner's armor. It's armor made by the Japanese to try and copy the European style of plate armor. I think the two would look very odd, but very fitting together.
@nilok7
@nilok7 10 ай бұрын
Nanban-tachi is actually a perfect name
@CowCommando
@CowCommando 10 ай бұрын
Ooh, yes, I like that. The only issue is that this wasn't made by the Japanese.
@BLS31
@BLS31 10 ай бұрын
@@CowCommando I don't think it's a parmesano reggiano situation where it can only be called a katana if it's made in Japan. I think the name is apt.
@irencsak
@irencsak 10 ай бұрын
Tyranth brings so much to the channel. i remember being skeptical of him coming on back when he first started. He's long since proved me wrong and became one of my Shadiversity staples.
@kingofsapi
@kingofsapi 10 ай бұрын
I remember there was another guy who came in after Oz, what happened to him?
@Sikraj
@Sikraj 10 ай бұрын
@@kingofsapi I know, Oz was pretty cool.
@BigPanda096
@BigPanda096 10 ай бұрын
Nate and Tyranth are amazing contributions to the channel that have allowed it to, atmospherically anyway, ascend into T.V quality showmanship in my opinion. Shadiveristy could easily be put on History channel for instance and compete with the crap that's on there easily, if not become a staple show.
@victorro8760
@victorro8760 10 ай бұрын
@@kingofsapi If you're referring to Nathan (different from Nate), I think he films the videos but is often on Knights Watch (one of their other channels). There's also a guy who appeared briefly on Shadiversity but is still occasionally on Knights Watch also.
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623
@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 10 ай бұрын
I remember at first he gave off Lofty Pixels vibes. Nice guy, but always taking the wrong contrary opinion on popculture.
@ServantOfSatania
@ServantOfSatania 10 ай бұрын
I'm glad you let Tyranth title the video
@lilboatsman
@lilboatsman 10 ай бұрын
Loving this project
@jonmittlsteadt4297
@jonmittlsteadt4297 10 ай бұрын
A longsword with a Katana handle sounds incredibly cursed, but I'm here for it
@jacksonsmiler8028
@jacksonsmiler8028 10 ай бұрын
The Chinese beat us to it, iirc I believe it's a type of dao
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 10 ай бұрын
The Chinese already did it
@twinphalanx4465
@twinphalanx4465 10 ай бұрын
The entire hema community just shuddered at that thought
@corwinhyatt519
@corwinhyatt519 10 ай бұрын
? Just sounds like what's been called commercially a Dai-katana to me.
@laylaalder2251
@laylaalder2251 10 ай бұрын
According to Dragalia Lost, a weapon that is both Blade and Sword would be called a "Blord."
@wintersking4290
@wintersking4290 10 ай бұрын
Looks a lot like Calandor, from wheel of Time, or the Pathfinder dueling sword. People have been thinking about making such a sword for a while.
@jameswilliams-ry6wx
@jameswilliams-ry6wx 9 ай бұрын
That's what I thought. It looked like a heron marked sword
@jacobgill2110
@jacobgill2110 10 ай бұрын
Melee related abominations are the future of this channel and be milked near endlessly and i am completely here for it
@assortedsubscriptions4012
@assortedsubscriptions4012 10 ай бұрын
This sort of fun, speculative, entertaining/comedic, and truly expert analysis is exactly the pocket this channel plays in best - and like no other.
@Kraleck
@Kraleck 10 ай бұрын
I'd classify the new sword: "Australian Hybrid Scimitana, 'Tyranthbane' style"
@nixodian108
@nixodian108 10 ай бұрын
I may be completely wrong but here is my take: When you cut something it means you have surpassed its maximum strain resistance. Strain, like pressure, is the force-to-area ratio and force is mass multiplied with acceleration. In order to increase the acceleration you would need a bigger lever. Now in a two-handed sword the lever has more to do with your two hands and less to do with the center of mass. As a result the change of center of mass is way less impactful than the change in mass.
@Mystic_Potato583
@Mystic_Potato583 9 ай бұрын
I really love how it looks. It looks like a good blade you could get in a game!
@H_209
@H_209 10 ай бұрын
I think this types of creations should have their own clasification like Triggering swords or Tryranth's bane
@josuesepulveda6850
@josuesepulveda6850 10 ай бұрын
Tyranth's Bane sound vert cool.
@ethakis
@ethakis 10 ай бұрын
Rehilting a spring steel Okatana is exactly what I was curious about from the previous video! Can't wait to see it!
@qubla2
@qubla2 10 ай бұрын
This is sure to be fun!
@TruthSpeaker893
@TruthSpeaker893 10 ай бұрын
The Tyranth blade is the perfect name. He made it. That's just how that works.
@Zoeymacelroy0811
@Zoeymacelroy0811 10 ай бұрын
If anybody does an archeological dig on shads property they are going to be so confused
@kazuma_koon
@kazuma_koon 10 ай бұрын
Hell most archeologists think the pyramids were built with bronze chisels and wood pulleys...so it doesn't take much.
@DH-xw6jp
@DH-xw6jp 10 ай бұрын
​​@@kazuma_koonand what were they made with in your opinion?
@kazuma_koon
@kazuma_koon 10 ай бұрын
@@DH-xw6jp Something unknown, beyond our modern day capabilities.
@DH-xw6jp
@DH-xw6jp 10 ай бұрын
@@kazuma_koon ... You think stacking stone blocks is "beyond our modern day capabilities"?
@kazuma_koon
@kazuma_koon 10 ай бұрын
@@DH-xw6jp When they weigh as much as thousands and thousands of tons, carried hundreds of miles, through sand and mountains....yes.
@timothyfrasier8218
@timothyfrasier8218 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see you do videos where you take every single sword and modify them to be the ultimate versions of themselves
@HarantheBlue
@HarantheBlue 10 ай бұрын
Seems since a new classification is due, I cast my vote for calling it a Tyranth. Great video fellas! I can't wait to see the new build
@TheBronzeKnight
@TheBronzeKnight 10 ай бұрын
That is almost the exact picture I have in my mind for blademaster & warder swords in wheel of time.
@weepingwell
@weepingwell 10 ай бұрын
it reminds me of the heron marked swords out of the Wheel of Time series. The only difference is they said Rand's sword had twisted or braided quillions. I can't rememeber which but it was one of them.
@westh2756
@westh2756 10 ай бұрын
My first thoughts as well. Jordans description of Lans sword was similar to this sword.
@jacthing1
@jacthing1 10 ай бұрын
Kinda makes me think of the Chikage
@weepingwell
@weepingwell 10 ай бұрын
@@jasonbrody8724 etch a heron on it and i'd buy one XD
@edot7266
@edot7266 10 ай бұрын
​@@jasonbrody8724Warder-tana
@Yatezylad
@Yatezylad 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, while I'm not a sword expert, I do not agree with changing to a circular pommel. I think modifying it to make it more scimitar-esque would look better than making it more European. Unsure how the feel of the sword would be affected but to me the blade is far more similar to a scimitar than a falchuon
@MeepChangeling
@MeepChangeling 10 ай бұрын
Who gives a shit about how a sword looks? I'd rather have a blade that can prevent my hands from being cut off by the other guy than some art object.
@sihilius
@sihilius 10 ай бұрын
@@MeepChangeling Apparently a lot of people back in the day cared about how their sword looked. Ask the people burried in sutton hoo for example.
@gmann215
@gmann215 10 ай бұрын
​@@MeepChangelingIf they wanted that, they'd just give this sword a complex hilt or even a basket hilt.
@philllllllll
@philllllllll 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, ring pomme would look fucking weird. I love the look of this one as-is and if I'd change anything it would be for quality of material. Ring pommel would look off.
@DH-xw6jp
@DH-xw6jp 10 ай бұрын
​@@MeepChangelingmost people care about how their gear looks, even at the points in history where there was an actual likelihood of getting into a sword fight to tge death (unlike today, where swords are made for art and sport). You are in the extreme minority with the claim that you don't care about looks.
@llywyllngryffyn8053
@llywyllngryffyn8053 10 ай бұрын
The longer distance from the tip to the center of mass means that it will be slightly faster on impact. combine that with the additional weight and it means that it should have more angular momentum. It should also give you more point control. It becomes more of a slashing weapon than a chopping blde, though, because the extra mass is now in the handle. On another side note, by adding that heavy pommel, you add in the possibility of a pommel strike to a weapon that never really had one before. Options are good.
@glenmcgillivray4707
@glenmcgillivray4707 8 ай бұрын
Folks be complaining about lowering the center of rotation. When it actually means there is more blade above that point actively helping you cut. And the shorter lever arm makes it easier to move. The only weakness is a lowered resistance to binding blades applying more force back to the user, which we helped fix with a competent cross guard. The argument is like saying a longsword is worse than a broadsword because the blade is longer!
@4Leka
@4Leka 8 ай бұрын
Tyranth's Blade is aweome, sound's like an RPG!
@pensandoenvozalta8415
@pensandoenvozalta8415 10 ай бұрын
We all know that if the samurai had this beauty of a sword, they would be around even today, overpowering even firearms.
@Blandy8521
@Blandy8521 10 ай бұрын
Shad looked so excited about making an Okatana version
@ZoeLycan
@ZoeLycan 10 ай бұрын
This reminds me of a Fantasy character I made on a "story" I was writing. A kind of Fighter/Ranger (if I compare to D&D), dual blade warrior, using a Katana on main hand and a wide double edge european/medieval sword hold backwards mainly to parry. I remember everyone would get triggered by such abomination as it would make both groups angry. Now this "Simitana" would be the kind of sword he would end up using, he would still o with dual sword fight. I specially like that the handle gives the ilusion that the blade looks shorter, that can be an interesting thing to add in the story. how an enemy underestimate him and thinks it has the advantage cos the simitana looks shorter or doesn't have enough reach
@jordanadams5719
@jordanadams5719 10 ай бұрын
I've made one as well. It is a FALTANA! Do the reverse as well it's much cooler!! Dbl edge straight blade w tsuba wrap BUT w wheel pomel, is what I did.
@oaksparoakspar3144
@oaksparoakspar3144 10 ай бұрын
The Tyranthian Scimtana needs a longer blade, a slightly longer grip, and a fishtail pommel. The Katana's weakness is always reach, and since you are adding weight in pommel you can balance that against length, and the fishtail gives you the most capacity to choke down the grip to stretch out the reach further. You would be getting the benefits of a Miao Dao without having the overlong grip due to the pommel weight - getting it more into the longsword family. There is a reason why short swords are so often stabbers - because stabbing loses no energy with shorter length (just reach). Slashing does lose energy the shorter the blade.
@RauschenPauli
@RauschenPauli 10 ай бұрын
the giant swords. carbon fiber swords and now the katana and longsword abomination. i can't wait for the future content!
@TMPMADNESS
@TMPMADNESS 10 ай бұрын
No don't put a pommel on it at all! You should keep the handle the same, just add the cross guard, perhaps a less symmetrical one, an L shape pointing down edge side, and L pointing up on spine side
@bbgun3183
@bbgun3183 10 ай бұрын
Shad you need to write a short story for the sword. I'd be down to read that. :)
@TornadoCreator
@TornadoCreator 10 ай бұрын
I love this modified, improved Katana. Everything about it is awesome. You've taken a symbol of weeb obsession, and made a thing of true beauty out of it.
@inali_illustrates9142
@inali_illustrates9142 10 ай бұрын
Its a symbol of our culture(by our I mean the Japanese people) that has been taken out of context by weebs
@SeanCrosser
@SeanCrosser 10 ай бұрын
Wow that's rude as hell. I guess japanese culture didn't exist before the 20th century.
@pauloazuela8488
@pauloazuela8488 10 ай бұрын
​@@inali_illustrates9142You can't do proper Iado with that kind of guard and different sword center of balance
@inali_illustrates9142
@inali_illustrates9142 10 ай бұрын
@@pauloazuela8488 ye
@famicom89
@famicom89 10 ай бұрын
cannot wait to see the o-katana "remixed" with an european-style handle and crossguard
@ArchynEU
@ArchynEU 10 ай бұрын
Pretty much the way I always imagined the wheel of time book swords, certainly closer than the props made for the tv adaption
@joshuamcdowell1460
@joshuamcdowell1460 10 ай бұрын
Repeat this process with a nōdachi and see if Tyranth doesn't change his mind. Because the tip heavy balance is practically doubled on the nōdachi and giving it the balance of a longsword with the reach of a greatsword might make it completely broken. Maneuverable af, with the weight, stiffness, and momentum to knock a man off a horse with a smack with the flat of the blade.
@joelofjudah9144
@joelofjudah9144 10 ай бұрын
It's like a longsword and a katana had a baby.
@myusername3689
@myusername3689 10 ай бұрын
2 handed Falchion(I call it KriegsFalchion)
@wolfbane7497
@wolfbane7497 10 ай бұрын
I call it the heron
@nextcaesargaming5469
@nextcaesargaming5469 10 ай бұрын
This is what happens when swords don't use protection
@anelbegic2780
@anelbegic2780 10 ай бұрын
Indeed, an absolute abomination.
@Rallionart
@Rallionart 10 ай бұрын
This sward actually is almost exactly the way I imagined the Heron marked blade in "The Wheel of Time" series (books)
@badgerchillsky535
@badgerchillsky535 10 ай бұрын
Regarding the balance and how it affects cutting force I agree with Shad. What comes to my mind is horsepower. HP is calculated with both torque and speed. You can increase an engines HP by increasing the size of the pistons, and therefore increasing their torque. Or you can move them faster. Both will increase the overall HP of the engine, the difference is how you transfer that energy to the wheels, and the same is true here. Yes, you can use conservation of force to keep that mass moving, but a more balanced sword will be easier to accelerate which will make it more responsive and maneuverable. There’s a reason the Formula 1 cars have smaller pistons and shorter stroke which allows them to run at a higher RPM. That allows the engines to rev up and down quicker which makes them more responsive to the constantly changing RPM they need for maneuvering through corners and then accelerating. Vs NASCAR, where more time is spent in straightaways, and even corners are usually not as tight, so larger bore pistons can be used since there isn’t as much accelerating and decelerating.
@ishen3771
@ishen3771 10 ай бұрын
I also suggest that you guys use a thing cross guard like the one used on Shad's type XVIIIb. It'll look better than a thicker cross guard methinks.
@weirdchick257
@weirdchick257 10 ай бұрын
I think the problem is it's unrefined. I think if you took the time to make quality parts that look good together then Tyranth would warm up to it much more.
@ryanread8617
@ryanread8617 10 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see the ultimate sword, a SCIMITANA! I can't wait to see this project blossom a perfect sword!
@classicfrog80
@classicfrog80 10 ай бұрын
Perfect camera angle for beautiful sun reflections on blades :)
@reverendbernfriedaxewielde8443
@reverendbernfriedaxewielde8443 10 ай бұрын
You two arguing about the benefits of the point of balance, has me going: “FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!” 😆
@Senior-Donjusticia
@Senior-Donjusticia 10 ай бұрын
If Shad got shardblades, their souls would SUFFER!
@nicholasbuckley-jubb3940
@nicholasbuckley-jubb3940 10 ай бұрын
Shads enjoyment and tyrants ambivalence from the 1st video was absolutely amazing
@EsotericBibleSecrets
@EsotericBibleSecrets 10 ай бұрын
I might call it the Falcon Blade from Dragon Warrior known for granting an extra attack.
@dojelnotmyrealname4018
@dojelnotmyrealname4018 6 ай бұрын
I'm three months late on this, but on the cutting force thing: I think we need to look at two cases: Strikes from the wrist and strikes from the shoulder. (or however it works in detail, I'm an engineer not a sports trainer) If you strike from the shoulder, you strike with the whole blade, and the improved balance will not help much. In a downwards strike the blade will be heavier, which means it will be more gravity assisted, which will improve it's force. In an upwards strike this effect reverses itself and you will lose force. In short, if you overswing, a heavier hilt will make the entire thing heavier. Shock horror. If you strike from the wrist, on the other hand, then the added balance comes into play. Bringing the center of gravity closer to the lever point (your forehand) will decrease the moment of inertia, allowing for swifter strikes. Since you are not striking with the hilt, it does not come into play, so the added weight will have a negligible impact but you will be able to deliver strikes at higher speed. A more balanced blade will be more manueverable and in those manuevers will be more force. This is true in upwards as well as downwards context.
@Night4fingers
@Night4fingers 10 ай бұрын
In the Honor Harrington series, there's a blade that's essentially this - crossguard + katana blade. It does have a straight third before the typical katana blade, but what you produced sounds close to it.
@sandpirate1662
@sandpirate1662 10 ай бұрын
Yo I hadn't even thought about that. (That duel at the end of flag in exile was very satisfying.)
@FiliusFidelis
@FiliusFidelis 10 ай бұрын
Flag in Exile, you know, I was just thinking about that just before i spotted the comment. Not only that, this also happens to be pretty close to what a heron mark blade from wheel of time is supposed to look like.
@sandpirate1662
@sandpirate1662 10 ай бұрын
​@FiliusFidelis aw man another great series. (RIP og heron marked sword, you served well 8D) Were all the heron marked blades that style or was it just Rand's?
@SymbioteMullet
@SymbioteMullet 10 ай бұрын
​@sandpirate1662 i think the heron mark indicated it was the sword of a master, rather than a specific style
@FiliusFidelis
@FiliusFidelis 10 ай бұрын
@@sandpirate1662 Not 100% certain as all that many other swords were discussed but the real Heron Mark swords were mass produced during the War of Power though so I'd assume so. Also his, his fathers, sword was unusual, finer, more ornamented with Herons than most, Lan's blade were a lot more plain with only a heronengravig on the blade itself (if i remember right). I think it was Lan who hypothesized that Rand's sword had belonged to an officer during the WoP.
@rallyl7053
@rallyl7053 10 ай бұрын
I am really excited to see how those modifications turn out on both swords
@Evaeleon
@Evaeleon 10 ай бұрын
It reminds me of the Heron-marked Swords, or Callandor from Wheel of Time either how they were depicted on the books or how i pictured them in my head
@Kez_DXX
@Kez_DXX 10 ай бұрын
The kyū guntō/ murata-tō looks like a western cavalry/dress sword with a sakura flower on the sides of the backstrap and when unsheathed you realize it's very much a katana blade. These were used during the Sino-Japanese War and the Russo-Japanese war.
@RippDrive
@RippDrive 10 ай бұрын
Shad is turning into some type of mad scientist
@arronjerden915
@arronjerden915 10 ай бұрын
If you lower the point of balance toward the hilt then you are adding mass to the working side of the lever and mass x speed = force. So it should have more force with the new hilt assuming that speed is constant.
@fraginz
@fraginz 10 ай бұрын
Should try different weight, shapes of crossguard, wrap, & pommel to see which one has the best combination.
@lordseppenstein2559
@lordseppenstein2559 10 ай бұрын
Naming suggestion for the next one Scimitano!
This is a GIANT ANIME KATANA!!
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