I never thought sports journos would get dethroned for the distinction, and yet, here we are.

Most journalists are. They're either just straight out puppets of private funders or companies, or they're "independents" who are puppets of hostile foreign governments.

When I watch Green Street Houligans for the first time, I didnt get why they hated "journos" so much, now... now I get it.

I mean, they're also not journalists. It's just an arbitrary term they appropriated because they hired some of their friends who have opinionated blogs and decided to start a "journalism" outfit. These are not people who went to school for journalism. They're not people who have any bonafides or actual experience writing in a journalism field. They've never done investigative journalism or worked for a reputable publication, etc. Just because you say "Game Journalist" in your signature or bio doesn't mean you're a gamer...nor a journalist. So they're actually the worst kind of fake-journalist.

They're actually some of the _best_ journalists for the minimal harm they cause... and isn't _that_ a scary thought? I can't recall a time where a video games journalist covered for the Stalin purges like Walter Duranty, who holds a now-posthumous Pulitzer to this day.

“And those games need to change.” Sure you like games.

Or sleep with them for favors…

It's not even them lying that's the egregious part. It's the fact that barely any of them can play games. Not to mention that they rarely finish a game before writing a review for them because they incentivise being the first to create an article.

@@9308323 "I just stared at this picture of the main character for thirty minutes, it had some weird text like, "Play", "Multiplayer", "Settings", and "Exit"...I don't even know what those meant. I had to unplug my XBox to get rid of it, there wasn't even a game here. 0/10."

Know your source of information. The Kotaku/IGN/Gamespot reviews are more like an ad for the game. I dont trust them. Their porpose is to raise awareness, to let me know there is a new release, say Rocket League in 2015. Looked fun, 20$ on Steam, deal. A YTer can review the game and/or show you the first several hours. You buy the game, play it and compare your experience with his/her review. If these dont overlap or features turn out to be exagerated, look for a YTer who came to the same conclusions as you.

It is honestly a joke to even call game journalists journalists. Their heavy dependence on the companies they pretend to review undermines every principle of an independent journalist. This closer to chinese news companies than to actual journalism.

Now they complain that gamers don't trust them. Why would they care if they don't need us?

That's.... Just stupid. That's your core fan base.

@@zionleach3001Yup. But journalists, Hollywood and AAA publishers/developers drank the kool aid about appealing to the fictional modern audience.

@@Dragon_Lair I don't care about woke vs anti-woke culture wars. But this "modern audience" stuff never works out. Trying to please everyone and end up pleasing nobody.

Do not forget. Do not forgive. *LET NONE ESCAPE.*

That's about how it seems. The articles barley qualify as journalism, as well. Mostly, they are game ads written like an article

@@gregowen2022 That's because most of the "gaming journalists" are (at best!) re-wording press releases from the publishers.

This is accurate for almost all journalists. But yes... doubly so for games journalists.

I wonder how many actually studied journalism in college rather than something generic like "Communications" or something bat crazy like "Feminist Glaciology" (yes, that's real).

@@billsprestonesq.226 The problem is that journalism in college is feminist glaciology. I kid (sort of), but the glory days of American Journalism was much more blue collar and workmanlike in its approach (not ivory tower) ... journalism had an inherent contrarian relationship to power. Now, Journalism programs in the academy are bias/propaganda factories -- that have an intimate sempatico relationship to power. They run cover and massage narratives for the elite to manage the unwashed masses. 'journalistic integrity' is all but dead. Not only have the dropped the pretense of objectivity in the instruction, they're endowing their students with their own moral obligations.

I think that's a big part of it. With YT, especially, I don't need to read about a game, I can watch it and I can watch a person playing it to se how they really feel

Well take that all of those people with master's degrees from Ivy League Higher Learning Establishment in Architectural Observations via Interpretative Physical Movement.

​@@gregowen2022 I prefer reading about it honestly. It's a lot easier to look at the described mechanics and a general plot summary without spoiling the experience. If I watch a full playthrough of a game, what's the point in playing anymore? There won't be any surprises and nothing I do in game is likely to change the story. The only time I can really think watching a playthrough would work is for Bethesda games where the main draw is the numerous side quests.

What an ironic statement lol

"You have to be really, really into it to be able to pull it off."

100%. "We failed to serve you for years, but you seriously need us, you just don't get it". Ok, sure thing

​@@gregowen2022 Too bad young people hear that and say, "They're right! We just haven't been giving them enough money and power!! ...No don't take my money. Take that from the rich. I earned my money."

And yet people praised the Pentagon over the "Tic Tac" ufo footage. It's more like "Trust anything that suits my views."

Yeah we would be way better with out them. Like what did they ever do for anyone? Aside the roads that you use everyday to get places. Or the police that arrest criminals. Or the firefighters that save lives. Or the schools that taught you how to write that comment. Or the military that keeps you from having to learn Russian or Chinese. Or the science that brought you a ton of the everyday technology you take for granite, like the internet your posting on. Or the electricity that your computer runs on. Or the water that you drink. Or a million other things. But besides that stuff, what have they ever done?

@@DSzaks 0/10 take. Most of those things are done at the state level and/or done by private companies hired by the government.

GamerGate demanded ethics in video game journalism, and in response the journalists demonized their critics.

But doing that would only foster further distrust of these designated tone-setters...

Smell that? That's the scent of victory.

​@@Xbalanque84smells like 'gaming' journalists shitting their pants

Well to be fair there is James O'Keefe, Tucker Carlson, and Andy Ngo. Those are the only three journalists I can think of. In existence. Everyone else is pretty much a propagandist of some kind or another.

I'm guessing Bellingcat is part of the "Do Not Trust Journalists" list

Do not forget. Do not forgive. *LET NONE ESCAPE.*

​@@MamaMOB Some of the only journalists left worthy of the title. I don't envy them having to bear the burden of rebuilding a functioning, somewhat ethical news press.

"trust is earned"; well whoops, that's called merit that pretty much slams the door shut on most of these "journalists", game or political like garlic to a vampire

Right? They had no standards are real opinions for years, and we all left and they want to act confused? Pardon me while I sing Beyonce's "Irreplaceable"

Became propagandist and activists.

Because calling them critics would be too generous. A critic looks at something with a critical and experienced eye then shares their findings so everyone else can decide if they'll like something. Game journalists don't look at games critically, they aren't experienced gamers, and they have no intention of letting the audience make their own decisions.

Because they can’t cut it at even that.

Because they are all journalism majors that could not get other jobs. So they went into gaming criticism because gaming is a huge industry, and has plenty of openings. Then they all just started calling themselves journalists because they want to sound important on a resume.

They call themselves game journalists. The phrase caught on, is all.

There are video game critics. They’re just mostly independent

_"STOP RESISTING, YOU PEASANTS!"_

This game journalist is like with Jeb Bush going, "Please clap" with the "Please trust us".

I bet superman never uses that phrase

​@@wingsoffreedom3589"Bruce? I trust him about as far as I can throw him. And since I'm Superman, that's reeeaaal far." "I'd trust Clark a lot more if he stopped talking about how far he can throw me."

@@thegodofalldragons hahahaha now I want that in a scene that was perfect

How many of those do you think are bots/AI?

​@@thegodofalldragons But those comments give Bruce forewarning and time to develop contingencies for such an event :3

"In Minecraft."

One of the best sounds of all time!

@@gregowen2022 don't make me get an alt account just to sub to you twice bruh

I remember every kid in school buying those game magazines and bringing them, and we'd talk about what was coming out and what to expect, and it was so much fun. Though I'd argue that even back then they were starting to lose their quality, but it wasn't absolute shit yet.

One day you realize that they are just an advertising wing and you never look back

Loved my old EGM mags. Lost trust in all gaming after reading a stellar review of the first Matrix game

Agreed. They are much more personable and you get to know their style. It's not some paid access media channel giving a 7 to everything like IGN, lol

Met AVGN, he was cool.

The fact that a dude, who shit on Bugs Bunny's face during a game review, is more trustworthy that almost any journalist, really says a lot.

@jeremyusreevu237 AVGN's old stuff is Great!! But then I saw that recent video about the weird horse prince mobile game... Just... why?!?

They still hate capitalism for what it does to the people. Thats called being a consumer advocate. Or you really havent watched his videos in years

@@sambonbon755 like I said I stopped when he went bizarre and the communist gobbledygook started.

​@@sambonbon755Even a Jim Sterling fan couldn't keep his pronouns consistent

Agreed. They haven't made themselves beneficial to the customer, so now there are hardly any customers. Not surprising, really

Oh my God. I smell Jungle Book here. 😂

Classical Conversations sounds so cool! I was always nervous to take the plunge, because the way they pitch it, you don't see the "results" until the second phase (dialectic phase?) and that always made me so nervous. I love the program and the theory, but it feels like such a gamble. But they say that's how things were done before modern school, and we saw good results, so....

@@gregowen2022 That might just be the pitch. It isn't clear to me how different they are from other approaches in the K-4 range, other than an emphasis on training memory (which I have found to be really effective -- my kids are in CC right now, and their memory abilities blow me away). It is just that all the really interesting stuff happens in 7-12 (logic, great texts, etc.), which stands to reason, because that's when kids start being able to take on more difficult things. I have decided that Classical Conversations' reading lists at the high school level need a bit of supplementation to be a really satisfying classical "great books" reading list. I recommend finding a reading list on a website of a classical school, and adding some of those readings into the summer as a supplement -- that's what we are planning. But I love the integration of logic, for sure. (I'm a college philosophy professor, and teach logic, among other things.) I tend to think the classical schools are a bit better than CC, though of course you are paying for the privilege. :)

I do Classical Conversations. But we're still in the first stage (oldest just finished her 2nd year) so I understand the concern. I've seen a couple of the high school kids and they are impressive, but they might just be the exemplars and not the norm. Still, modern methods don't seem to be doing a great job...