Why not reach out to the OpenRGB developers? They're trying to accomplish a similar result on a software level.

JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT YOU CAN REVERSE-ENGINEER ALOT OF THIS STUFF, BASICALLY "INDIVIDUALLY ADDRESSABLE LEDS" WITH NAMESPACE REGISTERS ^_^

In live concert world there's a protocol to control lighting called DMX, which essentially allows daisy chaining multiple light sources and control them with a single lighting board similar to a mixing console. Maybe it can be used/adapted to control LED components in a PC. no need to reinvent the wheel.

if we ever want to see a meaningful progress in our lifetime what we need is fines and regulation of all multi-billion dollar tech corporations in the USA. e.g. so they would be obligated to make lets say 50% perf gain/year/dollar at affordable price points in a 0-400 bucks range, and if they are unable then they should supply government/scientists/education with their top tech for free + billions in fines on their profits (50% cut to "the government's technological progress fund") that would go to education/scholarships/medicine/science, stuff like that. these companies should be obligated to drive the technological progress of humanity and shouldn't be allowed to milk the market without repercussions in form of fees paid to society / scientific / technological progress. you either make real gain every year or pay to government / scientists / education who would do that instead of you. as is all these companies are parasiting on society and progress, slowing the latter down for max profits. taxes should be applied on company's profits. at given price ranges corporations should be obligated to make 50% perf gain per dollar per year. if they don't = fines/taxes. prices wouldn't be fixed but perf/dollar should be 50%+. so they should be obligated to mass produce devices (as they already do) with such a gain in a 0-400 bucks range. product names and numbers will be irrelevant, they just should be not crippled in any way. like "a smartphone" will be defined legally what it should have as a bare minimum, like charging and a some type of connection to mass produced headphones, even e.g. replaceable not glued battery. if their devices are "only" 40% faster BUT decrease in price so perf/dollar is 50% gain = okay. if its 0% perf gain but 50% drop in price = still okay. pretty sure balance will find itself. you can regulate price/performance at a certain price point. i.e. 50% per year can be the baseline for cheap smartphones/GPUs/CPUs (e.g. 100-300 bucks), but nobody stops companies from making 60-75% gain and sell those at a premium for x2-1000 money to stupid customers, i don't care as long as we would get at least 50% gain for affordable prices. current 0-15% for years is just abominable. find the right person/people and tell them about it. actual details - thats just government's work to do, you pay taxes don't you? clearly every good legislation needs a research and not just taking everything 100% from some random guy on internet (me). but i don't mind if they do))

at least you've acknowledged my twisted world view, thanks. think about how YOU can fight corporations BETTER. I get what you're saying BUT I'm pretty sure you can do better than what you already do. tech tubers actually have A LOT of power but you're relactant to ACTUALLY use it for some reason. "None of us has the power to affect overnight change ". all of us together HAVE THAT POWER. and YOU'RE SPEARHEADING THIS POWER because YOU'RE THE VOICE OF COMMUNITY. you and buildzoid already made mobos VRMs better, you personally ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BETTER AIRFLOW CASES. so yes, YOU HAVE A LOT OF POWER. at least change how you compare pricing by ignoring mining-era prices. point out HOW MUCH overpriced everything is now. compare to 2016 prices. point out that ngreedia sells 4050s as 4060ti-s, 4070s as 4080 16gb. do that. don't do that "maintaining neutrality" crap. thank you.

I feel like this cluster of computer hardware standards mirrors some of the issues the community is working through in the smart home space as well.

Absolutely)) a second this or third this or whatever this... Basically we need this

@TheMacel66 I like my smart home like I like my RGB -- chaotic and incompatible!! 😈 No, for real, though, Home Assistant is an amazing community for the smart home, and I'm hoping this new initiative fosters as much growth for the PC community.

If they do open standard vibration motors for controllers humanity might actually get out the solar system

@@nimoy007 "smart home" seems a contrary term for a house full of remote controlled daftly coloured light bulbs. Perhaps the home is considered smart when compared to the occupants/zombie consumers 🤔

Excellent points on that companies looking at Apple's money, but not thinking beyond that to the health of the ecosystem on the whole.

@@GamersNexus Absolutely, they should be taking the viewpoint of growing the ecosystem so that their individual profit becomes larger because the market is much larger, instead of trying to get a few extra pennies, forcing the market to shrink.

The word you were looking for was greed. The West is unfortunately awash with it at the moment. Profit is fine, greed is not.

@@dagarath It's the piano store mentality: sell fewer, with a larger profit per unit.

@@redrock425 Define "greed". I want the most profit possible. Is that greed? Nope. I want the CEO's of the companies in my mutual funds to be that way.

Thank you for opening my eyes to that piece of software! When I finally get my PC back up, I am going to download that!

@@Awkward_Fox It's a little buggy, but it works for the most part. By being open source, people can add to it and work the bugs out over time.

@@BAMFSpYdy That's good to know! Probably less buggy then iCue... Holy shit is that piece of software an absolute mess

@@Awkward_Fox yep, you'll have to remove all the RGB software on your PC before using openrgb. The Asus software was really hard to get rid of for me.

Good to know! Gonna try that out!

There was other companies doing this long before Dell. Some even tried to stop people from simply replacing basic generic parts, my favorite was about 25 years back when Compaq required their floppy drives and their PSU's standard floppy power connector so that installing a standard floppy drive would leave it burned out and the wiring on the Compaq PSU would burn off in a nice cloud of smoke, ah good times.

RGB is shit, the ACTUAL problem at hand now is insane x3-4 times GPU overprice. >I remember when rx vega 56 and gtx 1070 was about 300USD when rtx 2000s realised was a good deal. >I remember when gtx 1000s relised and gtx 980ti droped to 300USD as new and 980 below 300USD as new and some more. everyone should remember that, but for some reason tech reviewers DON'T REMEMBER AND NEVER MENTION PRE-MINING PRICES, like mining prices are "the norm" now. they aren't. gold rush is gone, folks, all overpriced AF GPUs can do now is crap out in newest games. thats why I blame tech reviewers for comparing current prices to mining-era 2017-2022 prices. they help corporations normalize x3-4 overprice we get now and then talk about how "GPU overprice is not their fault but corporations". well, its not directly, but tech reviewers are A BIG PART OF THE PROBLEM.

​@@johnanon6938 Ah, fuck! 🤣 Compaq with the damn OS/2 port to proprietarily lock customers into their hardware! Taiwanese manufacturers just made an adapter. Compaq got crushed! 😅😂❤

​@@rawdez_the ai gold rush has just begun.

@@MrGamelover23 has nothing to do with GPUs, doesn't bring any money to GPU owners = its 100% irrelevant to GPU pricing. "the ai gold rush" is a marketing made up fairy tale to try and keep x3-4 times GPU overprice to stay. nothing more. you can't make money with AI just by owning a GPU and running some program. mining was making money to GPU owners. that what definition of a "gold rush" is. "the ai ngreedia marketing crap" isn't a gold rush. at least not the type that is relevant to GPUs or their pricing in any way, shape or form.

Let me take it one step further, science should be open. Way too many (expensive) pay walls!!

@@p_mouse8676 Yeah, people shouldn't be paid for their work!

@@UncleKennysPlace Nice straw man, mate.

​@@UncleKennysPlaceat best journals don't pay scientists or their employers, at worst they charge them. The push for open sourcing data seen in especially astronomy and particle physics has come *from* scientists and the people paying them.

​@@UncleKennysPlace Those paywalls we're talking about do not result in people getting paid for their work. They only serve to restrict access to research data from the general public and line the pockets of the journals with the paywall.

Already been tried sadly

that feel when eye-contact annoying so you stare at tea mmm yummy tea

I thought it was whiskey at first XD

@@karlkingofducks5764 well, I'm assuming it's tea tbh.

I ALSO LONG FOR WENDELL'S TEA

Its earl grey

Techvengers! Assemble!

​@@charlesfuzak 🙂

And Superman (Linus) resides alone in his fortress (the lab)

In my head i immediately saw them all stood together dressed as Turtles 🥷🐢

@@DimebagDarrenLowe Nah, Linus will be there too, he's the comic relief :P

One aspect was/is as they mostly are the one using them, then cost and willingness to not be dependent on a single hardware supplier. Companies involved in OC are a billion dollar market, so there's a lot of willingness to build hardware that they want. Like for network switches they all use the same open source Sonic OS. If your switch doesn't support it, they will buy one that does. So in this case, consumers have to be ones, asking companies to support open standards.

If all of us start only buying OpenPleb compatible products, we'll be off to a good start. Publicizing and sharing this and showing manufacturers that there's interest

Louis Rossman and Futo might also be good to contact if funding is needed. Might be able to get a grant from him.

​@@jimjones2001absolutely.

...first they want modular cables to get rid of the kraken inside the case. ...then they want nice looking braided cables to get rid of the ketchup and mustard optics... then they want individually braided cables in different custom colors and/or extensions. ...cables with RGB LEDs on them, yeah sure. ...now they want interchangeable standardized cables. Can you please think of the next 5 steps ahead so we can do this all at once? Maybe we just get rid of cables, plug everything directly into the motherboard, like with that ASUS GPU Power Plug thing, but with everything.

Same they actually work hard to make the world better.

Louis does some amazing work for things he is passionate about in the technology sector. I've only gotten to meet him once, but he was very generous with his knowledge and taught me a lot in the couple hours I was there!

@@GamersNexus You may not get to see this, but the reason you see this comment about Rossmann here is because of his recent talk of a new video app development. In short, imagine if a creator is on 5 platforms, it will track and view videos from these 5 platforms, so if they are kicked off 1 platform, you will still get videos from the 4 others, basically making it really easy for content creators to become platform independent. So that is why it fits so perfectly with your announcement here.

Their non profit might also be willing to help.

​@@CMDRSweeperI've not heard about this app. Where can I find out more about this? I'll see if I can google it, very interesting considering what Twitch has been doing lately to their streamers and viewers. Less than 48 hrs later they decided to make a milder version of what they proposed. Almost like they had planned to negotiate down by giving a ridiculous offer first.

Ur awesome brother

Steve mentioning the reduction of eco waste is a very important aspect of this. All of Corsairs iCue stuff is going to be landfill in a few years

I'm curious what "Level1Tech" understands as "open standard", when they think that a certain country with a one party system is more populist than the country they live in. Not sure if there is a clear understanding of what a participatory system looks like. Or perhaps they don't know what populist means but call their open standard organisation OpenPleb anyway. Strange notion and maybe a little of foreboding there.

RGB is great if you avoid all the proprietary crap or crap not supported by OpenRGB. I decided to do that, so my current build does not have any RGB. Corsair stands to lose the most from an open standard FYI. They have been flipping non-standard controllers and stuff for years in order to inflate their profit margins. It has gotten to the point that even if I do an RGB build, I avoid Corsair. They used to be a gold standard for me, now I don't even do builds, recommend, give away, or sell things involving them. I swapped to NZXT for fans and basically anyone else except gigabyte and corsair for PSUs.

@@richongaming I already have a lava lamp, i don't need another. You can keep your RGB. What i want is a simple way to shut that shit off.

RGB has always reminded me of spinning wheel rims and neon running boards in the auto world. And the joke there has always been "Hey guys look! Jethro got a raise!"

Now you NEED to buy the RGB model or you can't turn the damn lights off. We need a consumer revolution

​@@richongaming arctic is pretty much the only company I'll buy fans and cooling hardware from

Used OpenRGB to turn off motherboard RGB, it's the best RGB software and very light. On the other hand, i tried Corsair icue once, it was almost 2GB in size and use over 0.5 GB of system ram in the background for some reason. Never again.

Unfortunately OpenRBG doesn't support everything. Not even close, I still have to resort to using Asus Armoury Crate bloatware on a modern Z690 board to properly control RGB for example.

​@@GENKI_INU i used a prerelease build to support my GPU. But I'm a software dev, downloading a pipeline build isn't scary! But good RGB control should be open to everyone! Not just people who are devs. And also, not subscribed to signalrgb

THIS. In the future, I will only be purchasing RGB components and peripherals that work with OpenRGB. I am beyond tired of poorly designed (not matter how nice the UI looks) software that hogs system resources and crashes all the damn time. If I knew anything about engineering or coding, I'd be helping add to the list of supported components, but that's unfortunately way out of my depth.

@@IsleyNumber1 If only everyone was a software dev, right? For my 30 series GPU, I have to use the discontinued EVGA Precision since OpenRGB only supports 1 lighting zone out of the 3 zones, and it doesn't support the onboard GPU RGB header either. OpenRGB also doesn't support my Lian Li ARGB light strips, nor the multizone lighting options on my fans, nor the RGB LED on my NVME drive. So I'm currently using 4 different RGB software at the same time (not counting keyboard and mouse which is another 2).

The only fans worth buying if you have the cash are Noctua's. They also the best looking fans that all the other companies keep trying to add more RGB to attempt to beat their style.

@@chronossage Yeah, and since noctua doesn't have RBG, all your money goes into fan design and not dumb leds with controllers.

@@Splarkszter A decent portion of the price of noctua fans is profit due to brand affiliation. Their fans being poo coloured is just their way of encouraging label zombies.

@@-opus man, you must really hate Noctua. what have they done to you? is your pc to quiet? airflow to high? cooling to efficient?

@@schwubbi Is anything that I said incorrect? You being a fanboy is clearly affecting your comprehension skills. Noctua make the best fans, but they perform only slightly better than quite a few other brands, while being ridiculously coloured and costing a lot more. 1, or 2 degrees is not worth anything.

I can understand that. I have a few too many ARGB products, but they're all using standard ARGB connectors and being run using OpenRGB. It takes a bit of research to make sure the products I get are supported, but I feel it's definitely worth it.

you've got it backwards, the rootkit IS the purpose of IME.

​​@@Tabrias07 I don't disagree, but to be fair didn't AMD refuse to make their equivalent thing (forgot the name) open source?

@@sean8102 PSP - Platform Security Processor. If my memory serves me well :)

YES! Windows desperately needs a standardized subsystem for I2C/SMBus access. On OpenRGB we have to rely on these third party libraries (inpout32/WinRing0) which land us on anti-cheat block lists (though it's the trash anti-cheats doing this, not these libraries). We needs to use WinRing0 because Windows doesn't offer proper ways to access I2C, so we have to basically talk directly to the chipset registers in the I2C controller from userspace by porting parts of the Linux I2C drivers. It's absolutely ridiculous that this is necessary to access an interface that every desktop PC has had going back decades on the world's most widely used operating system for desktop PCs.

My powercolor 7900xtx is the only thing OpenRGB doesn't work with for me.

Bump for OpenRGB, seems like the most straightforward option.

Can confirm: Open RGB is based.

I was also surprised why they didn't name it OpenRGB, but then I remembered that OpenRGB already existed to solve this exact issue. Would be cool to team up with them.

OpenRGB works, I just have to re apply any time my pc goes to sleep…

They are doing fairy tales, wilful delusion, corruption, greed, racism, inbreeding and war?

They are like the Blues Brothers of tech. "We're on a mission from God."

I went out of my way and got a pc case with solid panels, they are a bit of a rarity these days though unfortunately. The industry appears to be heading towards cases with glass on at least 2 sides, completely daft.

To be honest, I thought that all (or at least most) of the '5V ARGB' strips on the market WERE strings of WS2182, or one of the other World Semiconductor offerings or their clones. Is that not already what they are?

OpenRGB is great, but if you have a piece of hardware that isn't supported (looking at you, ASRock GPU) it's not very useful if you want to sync everything.

Openrgb has the effects and mapping plugins so you can even make all the flashing and blinking effects if you really want to

I was scared away from that because of some compatibility issue that could hurt my hardware, it made me worry I’d there was something else I missed that it could hurt it even if I didn’t have that particular hardware.

how is the new editing PC. i hope someday you join Steve from HUB for a fortnite match.

@@tanmaypanadi1414 It's going well!

Yes, and it's started to show up in insider builds. Nothing functional yet though

Exactly what I was thinking

I'd like to add one of their loser rogue mods banned me cause he couldn't handle a joke about confusing rules applications.

100% this. I had an old Dell T7500 I was gaming on for a while. Upgraded all the internals but decided to keep the case. The RGB RAM is doing something inside, but the whole case is solid so I can't see, so it doesn't matter.

It was Asrock I believe

@@HappyCupsInc Yeah you may be correct. My bad but my argument is still valid

It was Asrock that is selling the anti rgb gamer bloated boards.

they don't support ANY amd gpu rgb. they are also saying for years now that they are working on it but just don't

@@raunchyNO I have a Red Devil 6750xt, and l, in order to get it to function through aura i have to plug in an Argb 3pin from the card to the mb, so I can kinda see why they haven't made any progress so far

Most of them are running WS28xx ARGB LEDs. Keyboards and some others are still often using analog 4-pin RGB LEDs with a matrix driver though, but fans/strips/coolers that connect to an ARGB header are just WS28xx.

OpenChad versus ProprietaryPleb

Of all the RGB software out there, Armory Crate is definitely one of the worst.

@@blazingliger2246 You haven't tried ASRock Polychrome RGB then. Armoury Crate is nowhere near the best but it is not the worst.

@@CalcProgrammer1 I'll take your word for it. I do really despise how Armory Crate installs itself and is so hard to get rid of, though.

though watch that somehow lock out linux use even more

So that we can have another crap rgb software right from stock lol

Yes but then you are using Windows…

About open sensors and sensor clusters/RGB? I know he's been doing a lot for right to repair, but that's a bit different (and something we also support!)

@@GamersNexus One of the aspects of right to repair involves opening up technical documentation to independents. So there is some direct alignment in scope if not purpose. Not sure if Brand X is going to want to print pleb on the box though. It's funny, but you might have an easier sell with something less effacing. OpenShine, OpenWorks, OpenConnect, OpenGold, UniGlow, LightNet, etc. Maybe just call it OpenWallet to reel in the manufacturers quickly and then change the name after it becomes the standard. :-D

You can still get regular fans if you want to

​@@simpson6700It seems harder and harder every day, that's when they're not more expensive.

@@offspringfan89 bequiet and noctua will always offer LED-less fans