My mate was a farmer until about five years ago and we'd shot on his land when his dad owned it and then for about thirty years from when my mate inherited it. There wasn't a problem until housing started to encroach on his land. Noise complaints from new people to the village, reports to the police of us carrying guns even when they were cased, verbal abuse from trespassers walking their dogs through pasture containing livestock and crops, verbal abuse from a dog walker when we were loading muntjac into the back of a pick up, verbal abuse for shooting rabbits, the list goes on. People move to the country and have absolutely no idea how the countryside and farming works.

About 15 years ago one of my colleagues bought a small woodland just like you, When he 1st arrived there were locals walking their dogs through his land but he didn’t mind. he built a small cabin in the middle of it and used it for somewhere for him and his family to hang out over the weekends. [camp out, have a barbecue, drink a few beers etc] Then a short while later the council turned up to check what he was doing on the land and checked the cabin he had built. [someone had reported him to the council] Everything was fine, he knew exactly what he could legally do on the land so the council went away happy. His next step was to put barbed wire fencing up at every access point with signs saying keep out, private, no trespassing. When next he met a local dog walker outside they complained that he shut the land off from them using it, To which he replied, “I was fine with you lot going through and walking your dogs until one of you interfering bast*#ds reported me to the council, so from now on my attitude is none of you are welcome anymore, stay off of my land and keep your nose out of my business” Moral of the story….. as usual it only takes 1 interfering busybody to stick their nose in and screw things up for everyone else.

Sad how people just call the police for seeing blokes going into the woods with guns, what was once normal is now thought of as bad.

As a retired police officer, it's nice to see that the officers aproached you with a cordial attitude. Generally, I am ashamed at the attitude of today's police. I was known as PC Jolly Green Giant on my beat. Big Steve, East Yorkshire.

Police attended my house due to an incident on my street (nothing to do with me). I let them in trying to be helpful and chatted with them as a witness. A week later they came back and knocked on the door and asked to check the rifles i had on the wall (ww1 and ww2 deactivated rifles mounted on walls with certificates and plaques showing what they were underneath along with loads of other military history stuff) because the officer was “concerned what she had seen”. I was annoyed. Told them do they really think I’d have let them in if i had illegal guns on the wall, and would they have visited if i lived in a country home and not an ex council house? Also why did it take them a week to come back? And why when my car has been broken into on the driveway 3 times have they never attended but send 3 officers down to my house about this? It was embarrassing. All my neighbours saw. I’ll never let the police into my home again or speak to them unless i absolutely have to.

Figures... Some Nosy Nellie just HAD to call the police.

Back in the day (early 1980's) My brother and I were out shooting with shotguns on land we had permission from the farmer, his son threatened us with trespass and demanded the guns...I told him that with out a licence he would be charged. He then threatened us again (we were 17 and 19) so we gave the guns to him...the police arrived and charged him with assault and possession of a firearm with out a valid licence lol he was warned about this but thought he was right. The farmer apologised to us and said we are always allowed to shoot on his land for vermin control.

The neighbours behind our house once called the police because I was cleaning a (dismantled) shotgun after a morning at clays. My Firearms chappie turned up and first went to the neighbours. He informed them that he had known me over ten years and that he'd also regularly shot with me on the same Skeet squad. Their response was an angry 'so you types stick together!' He more or less intimated (best way of putting it) that I had two right assholes living behind.

Happened to me last Autumn. Somebody saw me with my 243 out, 80 yards from the road. Have a deer problem on way to my shooting hide in the trees. Firearms Officer attended. Absolutely no problem. He knew his job. Professional and very polite. Invited him to return off duty for a deer which he did.

Thank you for showing how a positive police interaction when it comes to weapons in the UK should always be. We must work with police and community to show a positive and responsible ownership and behaviour and behave as such. Its too often that there is negativity around weapons in the UK and we need to see the positive angle of the industry and ownership of weapons in the UK.

Your dad is a legend! Love the relationship you both have, its what all dad and son's should get upto with each other.

Goes to show,positive, calm, polite interactions on both sides, no drama, no problem! Well done, lads, well managed, you are both a credit to the shooting community!

None of their damn business!!!

What a lovely way to spend some quality time with your dad Mike. I lost my mate 26 years ago now. Many many lovely times out it the woods, mainly the New Forest. Whittling walking sticks, makeshift Dutch arrows and other sorts. Treasure every moment Mike. All the very best fella always 🤩👊🌟 Johnny ( see you at BCS )

Clearly not the city, coppers just walk down with a dog to a firearms call 😂

It is annoying when people don't mind their own business, but it is kind of a double edged sword because one really does want to know that your land is protected from trespassing and poaching while you aren't there..

Nice professional copper, he was a true gent.

Looked like a fun day in the woods! Nice to see the constables were considerate. I'd rather they checked out a concern, as they did here, than discover a disturbing issue later.

As a police officer, bushcrafter and someone who shoots, it was nice to see the officer have a decent attitude and you be very cooperative. It's far to easy for people to criticise these days. Cops were quite clearly following up a report as they have to. Everything was above board, everyone was decent to one another. No problems whatsoever. With regards to your rifles PCP aren't necessarily more powerful than a springer. 177 has far greater velocity and flies much flatter, and being a smeller pellet will often penetrate more. 22 bigger and slower will hit with more of a thump and likely cause more damage. Great video 👍🏽👍🏽

There used to be a clay shoot at a local pub near me, South Staffs, every other Sunday morning and Boxing day, the shoot had been there 25yrs or more without any problem, there are about 10 houses backing onto the area of the clay shoot, all the traps faced open land, this is in a semi rural loaction. An old timer died, some townie bought the house and moved in. Within 6months the shoot had to close due to this townie complaining of noise from the shoot. He also complained to a local farmer about sheep being too close and waking him up with their bleating. the farmer said sex and travel, aka f**k off

We're generally polite in Britain - public and police - and firearms users in particular tend to have a very good relationship with officers of the law. Guns and rude / angry people? Not a good mix.

Top day out with your Dad , that’s what life’s all about , I had similar adventures with my children and loved every minute.

A former member of our ft club, had some land adjacent to the M1 motorway. One day the police received a call to say that they'd seen 'men with guns'. The police investigated and just said.."when you are shooting, just put a flag out". A St George's flag was used to indicate this. I think the police would approve the shooting now, but I'm not so sure about the flag though!! 🤔

Police come mob handed for this but where i live, a busy town, you are lucky to even see them. Meanwhile real crime happens.

Tip - Don't use shaped gun cases. People panic when they see em. Use shapeless fishing cases or similar.

Brilliant Mike ❤

Same thing happened to my Brother and I on a permission several years ago. Police were called and walked toward us in the field. I told my brother to lay the his gun on the ground,as did I. After checking our details the police were happy and thanked us for laying the guns down. Dont mind the member of the public reporting us,far better to be safe than sorry.

If you go down to the woods today , you had better not go alone, for someone called in the Police and one brought his dog. And you didn't even have enough hot dogs to offer them a sannie or a cup of tea. Good to see Dad is still up and about.

Just seriously jealous of your woodland. Have fun guys, good way to have some quality father/son time.

Mayday. Mayday. Dad and son having fun in the woods.

The police where spot on, that's how it should be

Nice to see you having a laugh with your old man 🙂

They were coming for the sausages. ....they could smell it from afar, the gun thing was just a cover to get to the sausages!

Wish I'd had a dad to share a hobby with like this. Unfortunately, we were different species! Heart-warming viewing, anyway. Cheers.

Where we live it takes a week to get a police officer to come out 😳

Your woodland is looking great! Also, days like that are a farther-son classic! It's been too long since my dad and brother and I have had a day like that back in my parents woods! I'll have to suggest to them that we add a fire pit to the little gun range we've built up over the years.

Really enjoyed this Video and its good to see Lad and Dad having a great time 👍 Subbed and liked 😊

Great vids , Enjoy time with your Dad mate , spent all my life fishing & doing stuff with mine ,lost him last year , really miss him , your Dad reminds me of him , except he was a Northerner 🥲👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Not sure how I ended up here, but I recognised Graeme's voice ....... liked this a lot , could say it was totally AWESOME 😂😂🐟🎣

Back in the early 90s i was out shooting woodpigeon in Scotland where i live, it was on land of a friend of mine owned, helicopter flew over quite low a came back and kept circling, paid no atention to it, then all of a sudden i hear armed police dont move and right in front of me are a bunch of cops with guns drawn, put you gun down and step away from the gun, i did this, get down on your knee's, nope thats not going to happen officer, they came up still guns on me handcuffed me and started with the questions, all i said was tell me what i have done wrong and the ill hrlp you with any questions you have, but no they wanted my name address what im doing, 20 minutes till an inspector turned up, said the problem is the helicopter spoted you hiding in the trees, you popped out looked up and popped back out of sight, i said yes correct im shooting wood pigeon i helps if the dont see you, he then said well the problem is Princess Anne is less than 2 miles from here opening the highland games 😂 OH! i see your problem insector, gave him everything he asked, they took me to my car where i parked it at the farmhouse showing them my licence and my friend confirmed i was permited on the land, but it was quite a nervous day for the officers pointing the guns at me the said as they had never pointed a loaded gun at a human target before, and when the lad said that to me i said well i wasnt nervous at all till you said that 😮 😂

Love the show Mike,more of this pls.

Good video again fellas. The 177 will always out penetrate a 22 of the same power. A good test is using the exact same ammo on both rifles. The 22 will carry more energy down range. When shooting small game with the 177 there is always the risk of over penetration going straight through your quarry whereas a 22 will dump more energy into the quarry. But as long as you are accurate, head, heart and lung shots work fine. Obviously 22 will leave a bigger hole. 177 is more forgiving because of its flatter trajectory with the 22 having more of an arc and the PCP will be more accurate than a springer anyway with pcp bein recoiless as well. If you really want to see the penetration of both rifles going through tins, try RWS Hypermax or Excite Prometheus. They really good if you want to punch through something... On the other hand, iam sure you know the shotgun will make a mess of anything. Happy shooting, all the best from Lancashire.

9:49 Many years ago, here in Australia, where Firearms Ownership is a Conditional Privilege, Three of Us were Target Shooting on Private Land, with Written Permission from the Land Owner, when We were stopped by Police. After recording all of Our details and all the details of all the Guns we had with Us, approximately 30, Police informed Us that We would be hearing further about the matter. We never heard another word on the subject. When the Police departed We continued shooting for the rest of the day. Apparently an Outlaw Motorcycle Gang had their Country Headquarters some short distance from Our location and Police were receiving Reports of a Gun Battle at the Motorcycle Clubhouse.

Thank you gentlemen for sharing ✌️💞🤟

I honestly think people have nothing better to do. They clearly could not read the situation and had to make a call to the boys in blue. At least you guys didn’t get an arse hole police officer. Great videos lads, really enjoyed it.

Your dad's a legend 👍

Dang, i felt the 2A rising up in me at the end there 😂 glad they were chill

We got reported to the police many years ago at an offical Airsoft site, as a public footpath ran outside the boundry. Funny thing was an armed response unit turned up, had to trek across half a mile of fields and had to be guided to the site owner by a load of players with AK,s, M16,s etc. They were sound, had a look at some of the gear and just suggested we informed them in future.

The wild garlic is great for making garlic butter. Cop the garlic levels up very finely mashed them up with your butter and put it ice cube trays and freeze it.

Just came across your channel Gents, and thought how cool it must be to have your own woodland to spend quality time together camping, shooting, etc, absolutely brilliant 👍🏻👍🏻 looking forward to your next show lads 👍🏻👍🏻 Subscribed 👍🏻👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Great video, police turning up is no bad thing really!👍👍

I’m curious; If you own the woodland what right do the police have to enter it and walk on in without a warrant? Secondly, what business is it of theirs what you do on your own property and to question you on it?

Thanks to the Jogger I've now subbed to your second channel. And thanks to your dad I subbed to your main Channel!

Brilliant video 😊 police just doing their jobs. I wish I'd got some woodland to play in😢. Hope to be watching more 😊

Well the way both you and the police handled the situation

Blessing in disguise! Also, those sausages looked delicious!

I'd love my own patch of woodland, looks like you've got a great crop of wild garlic there too! I'm currently foraging it at the moment, it makes great pesto. Do you have three cornered leek too? The flowers look like white bluebells and the leaves are very narrow, long and pointed. It tastes of onions. With a your woodcraft gear you need to make a pellet trap target box? Make it deep so that you don't get a false hit from ricochets, you can put a steel plate at the back for that plinkding effect. The reactive targets that splash neon yellow are brilliant, plus you can get firebird (?) discs that go bang when you hit them. For pest control/vermin control look at the Hades pellets, they're effectively cross cut hollow points with lots of stopping power. They're better than the ballistic tipped ones. For fun plinking I used to fill a washing up glove full of plaster of Paris and wait until it's set, then peel the glove off. I'd then shoot the fingers off from the tip down. Hazelnuts and walnuts also work really well as they explode! They're also great relative size targets for rabbit/squirrel/pigeon heads. If you get really good then beer bottle tops are a great challenge? As to the police attending? If the officer had said "Do you have any firearms?", I'd have said "no, I don't", then when they asked about the shotgun, I'd have said "that's a shotgun, not a firearm, they're different and require different licences, a fact you should professionally be aware of Officer." "What are you shooting?" "That's an irrelevant question, as it's my land. I can't poach on my own land, another fact you should also be professionally aware of Officer. All you need to know is that I have relevant legal paperwork for the gun that isn't an air rifle within the legal limit." New subscriber.

Good stuff guys.

It's always fun to watch you and your Dad sharing good times together. It was also a relief that y'all weren't hauled off to the slammer!

Respect to and from both parties there. None of that auditing rubbish.

Have you tried filling the cans with damp sand and use wadcutter pellets, leave a nice round hole, usually on one side only. I use the self adhesive lume and reactive stickers, stops the sand falling out when it dries, means the cans last longer too 😊.

Can’t remember the last time I actually saw a policeman. When my middle son was assaulted by east Europeans in our local park on his way home from work they said they knew the gang and that it would show up on cctv and they would be in touch. We are still waiting 2 years later!

Enjoyed watching you two .really nice that , I mean owning your own woodland and going for a bit of camping and shooting with your family .glad the coppers were understanding and friendly .easily prefer our crowd over the American lot .

I don't understand why when receiving an emergency call stating that somebody is taking guns into woodland, in a rural area where shooting is commonplace, the call handler does not just say: "sounds like a perfectly legal activity, please call back if you suspect otherwise."

Why would the police come out for a call of someone going into the woods with air rifles? lol. Poor farmers must get the police called out on them all the time.

Jolly good country sport!

Both air rifles should be at the same power range upto 12ft pound. Graeme's springer could possibly need a service new spring and seals will improve the power and aid accuracy. Well done on the way you handled the police. We had a similar episode on a syndicate shoot, by the time the police turned up it was the gentleman that reported us for what ever he thought was wrong nearly got nicked for wasting police time.

A good interaction with Police as good as it gets really ,Officer seemed well versed and treated you fairly ...Nice video loved that you cooked ya own food up there in the woods ... Squirrel is very gamie " and a bit tuff Its deffo a bug out food but not my go too ... 😊👍💯

Im going to say "Hello to the police, you're doing the best you can and i appreciate it". Why am i saying that? The police helped me when i found my boyfriend dead. A blood clot took himbut the police needed to check a few things.

I see the cop brought his land shark with him. That's what I like to see a short interaction were the police check the legality and are friendly and they are on their way. To many coppers around these days who are clueless and angry all the time. Nice little wood.

A good rule of thumb is to mind your business.

They used to have certain police officers that you could notify when your shooting on permissions,they'd give you a number if you were question by police and they would also be able to alay fears from people if phoned because they already new.

'I saw two guys walk in to a woodland in a rural area with some gun bags... I best call cops.' I've got to be honest that person cannot be from the area or they would know it's a relatively normal thing

It's good to have a good relationship with the local police, and also good to have neighbors who will call about anything they consider suspicious.

Country folk can be real Karen's sometimes. Somebody got me and a couple of friends arrested in North Norfolk for making a table by the side of a road by some woodland. I shit you not. So we could sell stuff at a car boot sale to get money to rent somewhere because we were living in a van. The police arrested us, kept us locked up overnight, questioned us for no effing reason, and wrecked all our shit. Still, I got breakfast and a nice warm nights sleep, so it wasn't all bad.

They seemed very fair 👌 and atleast they know now for next time if anyone rings up for a whinge

It would be interesting to see a video on UK gun regulation compared to what we have in Canada.

Nice jacket mate. 👌

People are so nosey keep camping 👍✌️

When rifles are sub 12 ft'lb many break barrel rifles are just as powerful as the PCP rifles though some may only achieve 9.5 to 10.5 ft'lb though it still may be possible to have them adjusted up to 11.5 ft'lb if that is your preference. You also only need a minimum of 3 ft'lb to kill a rabbit or small vermin. There is also the factor that pellet weight can also effect the ft'lb energy, for example a 14.6 grain pellet may only achieve 10 ft'lb and an 18.0 grain pellet may achieve 11.5 ft'lb. A chronograph test of different pellet weights etc will help to find the rifles velocity and ft'lb energy performance.

Watching you two is a memory throwback to my own time with my Dad (❤️R.I.P.) who first introduced me to a pellet gun before later introducing me to a 22 calibre single shot rifle which we used to kill groundhogs with because the groundhog 'holes' presented a threat of a broken leg to any one of our horses and it's no secret what has to happen to a lame horse. 😪

My favourite is when the public wonder completely off the footpath, I had a couple walking towards my hide , I called out and said could you please turn around and go back to the path , they clearly could not see me by the look of confusion on there faces as to where the voice had come from, they did hastily go back , probably thought think the woods is haunted.😂

Love see you both together ❤Haha about the police but it nice to see they was plight

How many acres do you own? It looks really nice

Glad Somone's sorting out those pesky grey sqiggles!!

Oh I love the tinned squirrels at the end pmsl.. and just what you need a nosey parker on your own property. lol

I was born 1960 from the age of 13 to 19 I had air pistols and air rifles used them most weeks in local woods and waste land had no problem with the police or anybody how things have changed so sad to see

It's a good idea to inform the police before you go, that way they know where you are and can quickly dismiss any nuisance reports of people with guns on said property.. I've had it a few times on some of my permissions.. People have rang the police and they just get told to remove themselves from the property.

sad what has become of the british mentality when it comes to guns.

Walther Rotex, that was the first rifle I bought.......so accurate! 👍

glad the officer was a gentleman and left you alone once he knew what the situation was...

Found this content by sheer chance, coincidently, I had been actively seeking recreational land until prices started going up from £6k to £15+k per acre. I also wanted adjacent river or canal acccess. Maybe I might revisit this idea of a recreational asset, however if i do, it won't have public access and never likely too. BTW, the isolation I seek won't be in the remote areas of Wales or Scotland.

That was excellent that the Police couldn’t do anything 👍🏻You should have asked them to get off your land without a warrant😂. Great video chaps.

I was shooting on a Farm with my Kids and all of a sudden a police helicopter 🚁 was hovering over us for about 5 minutes, the kids said Run lol 😆 but I had permission from the farmer so I wasn't worried, it was a funny moment for the kids but the helicopter was checking we had permission then it flew off and blew our cans we were shooting all over the place 😆 Always get permission 👍👍

Great vidi .., and nice to see some pleasant plod ... You did not put any garlic leaves on the sandwich .., opportunity missed ...

It should be such a simple thing to check ownership against an FAC or shotgun Cert. Save everyone coming out.

I'd like to see a bit more attention to proper firearms safety. Clearing the weapons when handing them over etc. The .22 is likely to carry energy further than the .177, given the same starting middle energy. The springer is more than capable of generating legal limit power levels, so the starting energy is probably pretty similar. The .177 will be traveling faster for the same energy of course. The .22 will drop much more than the .177, simply because it is travelling much more slowly. The .177 will penetrate more because the energy is working over a much smaller frontal area, and the velocity is quite high too. The external and terminal ballistic behaviours are actually far more complex than you might imagine, with all sorts of trade offs and compromises. I thought the plod were somewhat more aggressive than they needed to be, and the fact that has the chopper out to a report of "something in a bag, i don't think it's fishing stuff because there's no water" is a worrying waste of resources. I've been choppered a couple of times while it doing legitimate pest control jobs and deer stalking. People need to accept that someone wandering the countryside with a gun is supremely unlikely to be doing so illegally. Firearms licences are so difficult to get, and getting a firearm without one is so difficult for most people, that the chances of anyone having a firearm they're not entitled to is vanishingly small, and the chances of a legitimate fac or sgc holder doing something illegal is incredibly low, because we have to fight so hard to get our licences. People who do manage to get hold of illegal firearms aren't going to take them out to practice (ammunition is difficult to get hold of without a certificate, and most criminals will never fire a weapon in their lives). So if you ever see someone out with a gun, unless they're obviously doing something illegal like sticking up the local garage, don't bother the police with it. All you'll achieve is ruining the shooting, and pissing off a load of coppers who will have to get their boots and cars muddy on a fools errand.

IN THE 60S WE WOULD WALK TO THE WOOD WITH AIR RIFLES DOWN THE ROAD ON SHOW NO COMPLAINTS TO POLICE IT WAS THE NORM SAD DAYS NOW

Great video, Gun's are great, as long as you safe minded. Air guns are good if you get a compressor and pellet molds you can go on for a long time. Have a great day

If the person reports a wild camper, the police don't usually bother, other than maybe a welfare check to check you're ok. It's a council matter of it's on public land, not the police's remit. The only reason they'll come out is if someone goes the whole nine yards and reports, 'suspicious activity' then they're obliged to investigate. In the course of a cycle tour I wild camped on public land near Peterborough. Hassled by a local (initially pretending to be a policeman himself, dressed up in pseudo uniform) I continued he was bogus. 2am the police showed up. When they realised I was just wild camping they apologised for waking me up, disturbing me. They said they wouldn't have even come out if someone had just reported a wild camper. But they said the person who reported, reported 'suspicious activity' so they were obliged to investigate. When they first showed up, I didn't initially realise it was the police and I thought I might be being attacked.....again. Relieved when it was the cops. And they were pretty decent. Not high handed and questioning/interrogating. They established I was just a wild camper, not up to no good and left me alone.