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@erikhadinger76553 ай бұрын
Should have put the strips on the inside of the Spring. Would have served the same purpose and let for greater attraction
@vladimus97493 ай бұрын
This
@juanziegler14713 ай бұрын
yep
@samblacklock95933 ай бұрын
This right here
@drw43383 ай бұрын
For sure
@GeoBot_Gaming2 ай бұрын
Was about to say the same thing.
@davidmiletic66473 ай бұрын
I work with springs professionaly every day, so here is a pro tip: when welding the springs onto the rim, you should have put the finished product in the oven of 260°C for 60 minutes, for relaxation to take place. Meaning the internal stress forces would be relaxed, so even if you had then removed the springs from the rim, the springs would have kept the bent shape, and would not spring back into being straight. Also, the steel strip should have been welded on the inside of the spring (if structual solidity is your concern, otherwise there is no need to use the strip anyway). Keep up the good work, salute from Slovenia!
@Domestic_Tedster2 ай бұрын
There always has to be the one professional 🫥
@aleks54052 ай бұрын
@@Domestic_Tedster Well without it that contraption could spring itself through the vehicle straight to your throat. It's a fair point.
@astrayamatu2 ай бұрын
@@aleks5405 what's next a meteorite hitting you in the eye falling from space
@davidmiletic66472 ай бұрын
@@Domestic_Tedster yes, and you should be thankful for it, I sure am.
@MrTruckerf2 ай бұрын
@@davidmiletic6647 Haha! Yes!
@ATruckCampbell3 ай бұрын
I believe the 4WD system on that wagon is hampering the tire test, put those on a trusty Lada and they will do fine I bet.
@TheYamaha373 ай бұрын
Nope they won't. The flat welded "safety strap" is what is causing all the traction issues.
@dgreco13743 ай бұрын
@@TheYamaha37that and traction control is getting in the way
@martinsv91833 ай бұрын
There is no better system than on the G-class. 3 mechanical lockers. The regular traction control system turns off when you engage them. There is nothing more you can do.
@ATruckCampbell3 ай бұрын
@@TheYamaha37 Even with the flaps gone they are not doing well.
@ATruckCampbell3 ай бұрын
@@martinsv9183 There is, put them on another car with normal manual lockers. Whatever system it has that you are talking about is not working here.
@0wl9993 ай бұрын
" The air's not leaking out. " 😂😂😂
@MrLarsgren3 ай бұрын
since you use dual springs you could just use a ring of rebar in the middle as reinforcement.
@simonallan99413 ай бұрын
Yes and it could have sat between the springs and not even have to slip on the road surface
@moonlander033 ай бұрын
I think he woulda gotten away using a chain with spikes in the middle 😂😂😂😂👍👍
@delpsdayoff33722 ай бұрын
This was my suggestion too, even after they cut the bands off.. they left a bunch of flat area band behind.
@fredashay2 ай бұрын
By putting those strips on the outside of the springs, you're basically driving on very narrow bald tires.
@wowfubar3 ай бұрын
Whey welded a flat strip of steal right in the contact patch. The fudge.
@maszkalman36763 ай бұрын
They followed as it was on that picture it's not their idea that's why....
@Schoolofmonkey3 ай бұрын
Yeah should of been put inside the springs,.
@HDXFH3 ай бұрын
Steel not steal
@anchopanchorancho2 ай бұрын
Did you keep watching? They cut them next.
@cdom5022 ай бұрын
@@anchopanchoranchono way, I stopped watching as soon as my comment was posted. They should know better to not put the ring on the outside.
@billynomates9203 ай бұрын
strips on the inside of the springs?
@RByrne3 ай бұрын
Yeah. Or even on the side, as it might be easier to weld. The way they did it kinda ruins the design IMO.
@BlindDude3 ай бұрын
Yeah. The sides
@billynomates9203 ай бұрын
@@RByrne 👍
@biggestcomplainer2 ай бұрын
Exactly totally F’d the concept
@billwilliams27673 ай бұрын
You should have used chain as a safety measure instead of the metal strips.
@andreasaunders1973 ай бұрын
When car tires lose traction, the vehicle slides sideways, that's why rear wheel drive cars fishtail. Off road capability on soft surfaces is all about flotation, once the car is down on the bellypan, you're done driving. So springs are a lose-lose replacement for tires. Some things are better to watch others try out, that's why Garage 54 is world famous!
@dwaneanderson80392 ай бұрын
It's even worse than that. The spring coils provide no side to side traction. They will act like skis which enable it to slide sideways extra easily. Moreover, the coils are always going to be angled to one side, so they will tend to push the vehicle diagonally rather than straight ahead when power is applied.
@rayceeya86593 ай бұрын
They're having a lot of fun with that G-Wagon in these videos.
@volvo093 ай бұрын
When are they going to pour milk in the engine 😂
@Colorado_Native3 ай бұрын
Lets name it the G54-Wagen.
@jwalster94123 ай бұрын
When are they going to put the engine in a lada, and make a DIY, half thrown together and most importantly, 107% AWD lada.
@metalmafiachris3 ай бұрын
You did not put the valve caps back on.
@satsumagt52843 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure it’s fine without air
@adam78683 ай бұрын
The joke You
@satsumagt52843 ай бұрын
@@adam7868 I fully understood the joke
@jacobharryman8223 ай бұрын
You guys have so much fun! Reminds me of me and my friends messing with cars here in the States. Some things are universal.
@country11162 ай бұрын
Make a solid plastic rotator with rubber break pads and see if the stopping distance is better
@ChanceSummer2 ай бұрын
Haha. I love how these guys went from Lada’s to G wagons thanks to millions of views on YT. You guys deserve it! Most interesting car experiments ever for the past 10 years. But I do like seeing the old junkers better than these Joe-Unobtainium cars.
@Garage54ENG2 ай бұрын
We've decided to give the Ladas a short break :)
@THETuerre3 күн бұрын
Probably bought at auction with a blown up motor, been my observation guys like that can make anything run.
@user-kh2yl6nn3l3 ай бұрын
"chop some ice", asphalt, concrete etc. . HAHAHAHA You'll leave an everlasting impression on the alley . lol
@miken76292 ай бұрын
If you look at the tires used on moon rover used in the Apollo program, those tires were made of piano wire not so different from your springs just your springs are more heavy duty while moon rover used many more lighter piano wires woven to become springs.
@tripleBOOMER2 ай бұрын
These workers do a wonderful job every time! Very cool design, well done!
@yannisinasia3 ай бұрын
These are their best videos with this crazy ideas.
@user-tr7us4zc5p2 ай бұрын
As someone that's lived in Montana for 30 years. My go to is always studded tires. A new set of tires with some short mechanical screws in a couple rows would do better. Love the videos guys.
@sarchlalaith88363 ай бұрын
The availability of surface is much less, with more coils {or straps on the outside} you will regain that lost surface area
@rossbrumby19573 ай бұрын
Being hard and inflexible, the springs either slip on harder surfaces or chop up and sink into softer surfaces. If the strips were wider but welded on the inside of the springs, it would not bury itself in the soft so bad. I think the other video of springs as tyres worked better as they had some give to them welded on radially in short sections.
@cevansinz2 ай бұрын
Your craftsmen have become so skilled. Those, at the very least, are beautiful.
@me33333 ай бұрын
I bet that G-Wagon has some interesting stories to tell
@paulvanderveen19863 ай бұрын
Ow man... that Gwagon has a lot off knocking going on @ the engine( piston slab?)
@MarkLoves2Fly3 ай бұрын
Right Away I can see the strips needed to be mounted inside the springs. Mount them just inside the outer edge of the spring. You'll achieve the safety you were looking for, and the traction.
@okramw12 ай бұрын
Interesting experiment & learning something 🤔
@curtishill64903 ай бұрын
I think it would be better to put the strips along the inside than the outside. Thank you guys I'm a long time fan/sub and still love the channel!!!😁
@moonlander033 ай бұрын
This channel is very creative so I love it 👍👍👍👍
@friskydingo53703 ай бұрын
Happy 420 everyone 😊
@anchopanchorancho2 ай бұрын
Boo, take your hippy drug day back to states where it belongs.
@Rob-fc9wg2 ай бұрын
Cheers mate 👍
@johnmccallum91062 ай бұрын
Perhaps you could weld a set of snow chains to the outside of the springs for better traction? Smooth metal tends to slip on a hard surface. Something to block intrusion inside the springs may also stop you digging in so you get the grip from the width of the spring metal without sinking in.
@adriancarter8253 ай бұрын
Another great video
@FarlesNCharge3 ай бұрын
Love this channel
@Calcifer02 ай бұрын
I think when bending the springs should use a high temperature torch like a oxyacetylene torch?
@Improvisebydesign3 ай бұрын
That's really Cool! I always look forward to what you will come up with next!
@bobbyduke7772 ай бұрын
If the bands were on the sides, it might improve things keeping the wheels from sliding sideways, and grinding the springs to edges to push would help
@stihlRoush2 ай бұрын
Looks cool
@murrayjonasson2 ай бұрын
Love the channel, Alberta Canada
@XAuroraM3 ай бұрын
garage 54 upload, today is a good day!
@VaGab3 ай бұрын
Poor G Wagon she deserve a better destiny! Cool experiment as always
@MelodicTurtleMetal5 күн бұрын
They look badass
@Mart772 ай бұрын
If somehow tyres could be stretched over these - then those wheels would be some bank-heist level indestructible things
@Hellsong892 ай бұрын
Pretty sure idea is to have wheel that has traction in really soft terrain and light vehicle like garden tractor or bike. Spring digs into soft ground and gives traction, hopefully not digging in and eventually there is rim to take the pressure if it digs and no inner tube to be punctured. On car, specially heave as g vagon it just digs in on ice and snow.
@paulcerny38052 ай бұрын
COOL LOOKING
@antionedavid3 ай бұрын
😎 good idea ☃️
@friskydingo53703 ай бұрын
Best way to make ice cubes 😊
@jamesaustralian98292 ай бұрын
Vehicles have been around for over a century, constantly changed and upgraded with new tech and features. The wheel hasnt changed much, apart from size and width - telling you that the pneumatic tire on a rim concept, is proved above and beyond as the go to option that stands the test of time for good reason.
@rainforestrc7672 ай бұрын
Should have put the containment bands on the inside of the springs around the rim center. I believe you would get much better traction 👍
@explodingheavens2 ай бұрын
They dont just dig into the ice, they also dig into the road itself 😂
@laclinicadelcorsa3 ай бұрын
Yo should have tried that very same experiment in a Lada
@martinsv91833 ай бұрын
The Lada doesnt have 3 mechanical lockers I believe. So would just be worse.
@ianstorey15212 ай бұрын
In my PhD study of suspension I was surprised that researchers were modelling tyres as pure springs (zero damping). I was sceptical at first but it is indeed the case (a very close approximation). To get some feeling for this, notice how mechanics will bounce tyres on concrete floors. Or look at dash cam videos where a tyre has come off on the road. They bounce around for ages. They have rotational energy, but they also bounce. The "tyres" in this video, however, don't have great traction. "Rubber" has a very high coefficient of friction. I was excited by tyres without a tube, but they don't seem to be practical?
@Luzeon3 ай бұрын
You got me back at wire spring tires. 😂
@Luzeon3 ай бұрын
I’m also thinking larger or more springs.
@THETuerre3 күн бұрын
Any possibility that the bike wheel in the garden was simply made as art???
@captainjerk2 ай бұрын
I would have used rebar in between the coils. But only where they meet along the middle. So the coils still have mesh with each other, and still bite.
@josephdewuhan2 ай бұрын
Put the metal stripes inside the coil springs, so that they strengthen the wheels but still allow them to dig into the road.
@Wreck-Gar3 ай бұрын
So if I need to chop ice into cubes for my Vodka, this is the way to go?
@markcole64752 ай бұрын
Interesting concept…..neat to watch. I would have put the reinforcement band on the inside of the spring instead of the outside.
@user-bq7ct8yw7k11 күн бұрын
The springs would go really well in the snow and would act as wheel chains but they would be crap and hazardous on a normal road lol. Certainly different.👌😅
@delpsdayoff33722 ай бұрын
That G wagon not have an accelerator pedal? Hit it! Damn it
@JockeLonnovik3 ай бұрын
Sublime 💯
@J-RAD_notAnNpc2 ай бұрын
The problem is the slippery steel piece you welded right on your contact points.. you could have welded them on the inside or heated the springs to relax them to the new shape. As soon as you put those on i knew it was gonna slip
@andylutube3 ай бұрын
put tubes inside them to keep the snow out and prevent sinking, how you get the tubes in is up to you!
@ovalwingnut3 ай бұрын
Now you only need 'rubber' on the 3rd date. Very COoL. You guys keep up'ing your game. Cheers from So.Ca.USA 3rd House on the Left (but please call ahead before you show up). You RoCk!
@bobbyduke7772 ай бұрын
the flat straps that contact the ground, will keep it from moving in shallow snow or slush.
@hunterswiski83983 ай бұрын
Hey those look like something out of my art class as a kid
@hunyesmith032 ай бұрын
Although the G class still looks awesome especially when in snow
@knobsdialsandbuttons2 ай бұрын
The four sprung durch technik
@Ifiwana2 ай бұрын
Seems likea good way to make some run flats
@pthrelkeld0902 ай бұрын
I personally would have welded knobbs or small spikes on the outside of the rings, as I believe they are the inhibiting factor or a portion of it.
@user-bq7ct8yw7k11 күн бұрын
Would ride rough as guts too. No cushioning except for the shock absorbers lol.
@JoeBManco3 ай бұрын
I wonder how these wheels would do on a lighter vehicle.
@BlackPill-pu4vi3 ай бұрын
Probably just as bad. The contact surfaces are too rigid. IN any case, a genuine Soviet Lada Niva would run circles around that G-wagon. Keep a picture of Leonid Brezhnev on the dashboard and it will never fail.
@lesklower72813 ай бұрын
Apart from how good or bad the spring tyres performed l did like the red paint looked really good maybe some red stripes on the tyres would look really good
@moneygooddude2 ай бұрын
Put the metal straps on the inside of the coils? Put a cross pattern on the outside of the coils to get real grip in the snow and ice.
@user-bq7ct8yw7k11 күн бұрын
Thats why it's not gripping because of those 2 bands each side of the wheels lol. Bet it works way better now.
@novanut19643 ай бұрын
the strips should have been welded inside the springs, good video
@davidjernigan81613 ай бұрын
If those pack full of snow until it's a block of ice it would make for some interesting handling.
@Ai_Toolshed3 ай бұрын
The springs weren't getting any traction because of the flat strips that contact the ground first, next time just weld a piece of rebar in the valley inbetween the coils and allow the coils to act as grip
3 ай бұрын
I have a great idea for your channel! :) Make a dynamometer to measure power on the wheel. It's a good project, and it will definitely come in handy in the future to test the new modifications on the channel to see if there is a change in engine power. :)
@kevinricherson888Ай бұрын
How would you balance a tire such as that?
@tnickknight3 ай бұрын
Cutting edge Slavic tech 🏆
@zsombor_993 ай бұрын
Why didn't you guys tried these wheels on a Lada instead?! 🤨
@nates.45523 ай бұрын
Idea: make something so that every wheel is a snowblower that propels snow out each side 4 wheels equals 4 snow blowers.
@BigEightiesNewWave3 ай бұрын
3:10 Work of art, should be in Museum of Modern Art.
@SLAPDOORS3 ай бұрын
Just noticed where you get your content from haha well played
@tahahaider58362 ай бұрын
Where
@edwardtupper63743 ай бұрын
I would have welded the flat steel strip in a zigzag pattern from one spring to another like a tractor tyre, or tank treads!
@EvanMoon2 ай бұрын
Add a layer of normal tire tread between the two flat metal pieces. It will add road traction and you can’t go flat.
@OleDirtyMacSanchez2 ай бұрын
Try refining the design with Studs, that may help. I wouldn't use these on Paved Roads, they would just grind and create Sparks which could ignite Fuel. That would be a bad outcome.
@ke8wlw3 ай бұрын
Listen to that engine knock
@MichaelsGuns3 ай бұрын
similar concept to the wheel setup on the lunar rover.
@OttoByOgraffey3 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen an episode where there isn't snow, ice, or mud.
@nbagoats48192 ай бұрын
How did they possibly think this would be better than tires?
@BigEightiesNewWave3 ай бұрын
Do Fred Flintstone, stone tires, or maybe embed rocks for snow-driving.
@wickedfriggengood69923 ай бұрын
What do you have the only 2wd G wagon?
@richardspicer82533 ай бұрын
There is so much tension in the room you guys should chill out 😂😂
@toms61933 ай бұрын
would be a good rototiller to turn the garden soil in the spring...
@balrajbangarАй бұрын
You should mix and shove some turf rubber inside so it perhaps gives grip and see what happens?
@theawesomer2 ай бұрын
You need to test these in some mud and ruts.
@oubliette8623 ай бұрын
have you guys tried making a shock absorbing rim for an airless tire? or a tire stuffed with rags like mad max?
@RussB.3 ай бұрын
You should wait until warmer weather and try them in the dirt.
@8000RPM.2 ай бұрын
should have heated the coils with a welding torch, until red hot, then bent the spring to fit the wheel.