We replace tires with springs - are they better off-road?

  Рет қаралды 209,005

Garage 54

Garage 54

3 ай бұрын

Grab some G54 merch here - www.en.garage54.ru/
You could probably call this the first real experiment with the G-class.
For business inquiries: promotion@garage54.ru

Пікірлер: 447
@erikhadinger7655
@erikhadinger7655 3 ай бұрын
Should have put the strips on the inside of the Spring. Would have served the same purpose and let for greater attraction
@vladimus9749
@vladimus9749 3 ай бұрын
This
@juanziegler1471
@juanziegler1471 3 ай бұрын
yep
@samblacklock9593
@samblacklock9593 3 ай бұрын
This right here
@drw4338
@drw4338 3 ай бұрын
For sure
@GeoBot_Gaming
@GeoBot_Gaming 2 ай бұрын
Was about to say the same thing.
@davidmiletic6647
@davidmiletic6647 3 ай бұрын
I work with springs professionaly every day, so here is a pro tip: when welding the springs onto the rim, you should have put the finished product in the oven of 260°C for 60 minutes, for relaxation to take place. Meaning the internal stress forces would be relaxed, so even if you had then removed the springs from the rim, the springs would have kept the bent shape, and would not spring back into being straight. Also, the steel strip should have been welded on the inside of the spring (if structual solidity is your concern, otherwise there is no need to use the strip anyway). Keep up the good work, salute from Slovenia!
@Domestic_Tedster
@Domestic_Tedster 2 ай бұрын
There always has to be the one professional 🫥
@aleks5405
@aleks5405 2 ай бұрын
@@Domestic_Tedster Well without it that contraption could spring itself through the vehicle straight to your throat. It's a fair point.
@astrayamatu
@astrayamatu 2 ай бұрын
@@aleks5405 what's next a meteorite hitting you in the eye falling from space
@davidmiletic6647
@davidmiletic6647 2 ай бұрын
@@Domestic_Tedster yes, and you should be thankful for it, I sure am.
@MrTruckerf
@MrTruckerf 2 ай бұрын
@@davidmiletic6647 Haha! Yes!
@ATruckCampbell
@ATruckCampbell 3 ай бұрын
I believe the 4WD system on that wagon is hampering the tire test, put those on a trusty Lada and they will do fine I bet.
@TheYamaha37
@TheYamaha37 3 ай бұрын
Nope they won't. The flat welded "safety strap" is what is causing all the traction issues.
@dgreco1374
@dgreco1374 3 ай бұрын
@@TheYamaha37that and traction control is getting in the way
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 3 ай бұрын
There is no better system than on the G-class. 3 mechanical lockers. The regular traction control system turns off when you engage them. There is nothing more you can do.
@ATruckCampbell
@ATruckCampbell 3 ай бұрын
@@TheYamaha37 Even with the flaps gone they are not doing well.
@ATruckCampbell
@ATruckCampbell 3 ай бұрын
@@martinsv9183 There is, put them on another car with normal manual lockers. Whatever system it has that you are talking about is not working here.
@0wl999
@0wl999 3 ай бұрын
" The air's not leaking out. " 😂😂😂
@MrLarsgren
@MrLarsgren 3 ай бұрын
since you use dual springs you could just use a ring of rebar in the middle as reinforcement.
@simonallan9941
@simonallan9941 3 ай бұрын
Yes and it could have sat between the springs and not even have to slip on the road surface
@moonlander03
@moonlander03 3 ай бұрын
I think he woulda gotten away using a chain with spikes in the middle 😂😂😂😂👍👍
@delpsdayoff3372
@delpsdayoff3372 2 ай бұрын
This was my suggestion too, even after they cut the bands off.. they left a bunch of flat area band behind.
@fredashay
@fredashay 2 ай бұрын
By putting those strips on the outside of the springs, you're basically driving on very narrow bald tires.
@wowfubar
@wowfubar 3 ай бұрын
Whey welded a flat strip of steal right in the contact patch. The fudge.
@maszkalman3676
@maszkalman3676 3 ай бұрын
They followed as it was on that picture it's not their idea that's why....
@Schoolofmonkey
@Schoolofmonkey 3 ай бұрын
Yeah should of been put inside the springs,.
@HDXFH
@HDXFH 3 ай бұрын
Steel not steal
@anchopanchorancho
@anchopanchorancho 2 ай бұрын
Did you keep watching? They cut them next.
@cdom502
@cdom502 2 ай бұрын
​@@anchopanchoranchono way, I stopped watching as soon as my comment was posted. They should know better to not put the ring on the outside.
@billynomates920
@billynomates920 3 ай бұрын
strips on the inside of the springs?
@RByrne
@RByrne 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. Or even on the side, as it might be easier to weld. The way they did it kinda ruins the design IMO.
@BlindDude
@BlindDude 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. The sides
@billynomates920
@billynomates920 3 ай бұрын
@@RByrne 👍
@biggestcomplainer
@biggestcomplainer 2 ай бұрын
Exactly totally F’d the concept
@billwilliams2767
@billwilliams2767 3 ай бұрын
You should have used chain as a safety measure instead of the metal strips.
@andreasaunders197
@andreasaunders197 3 ай бұрын
When car tires lose traction, the vehicle slides sideways, that's why rear wheel drive cars fishtail. Off road capability on soft surfaces is all about flotation, once the car is down on the bellypan, you're done driving. So springs are a lose-lose replacement for tires. Some things are better to watch others try out, that's why Garage 54 is world famous!
@dwaneanderson8039
@dwaneanderson8039 2 ай бұрын
It's even worse than that. The spring coils provide no side to side traction. They will act like skis which enable it to slide sideways extra easily. Moreover, the coils are always going to be angled to one side, so they will tend to push the vehicle diagonally rather than straight ahead when power is applied.
@rayceeya8659
@rayceeya8659 3 ай бұрын
They're having a lot of fun with that G-Wagon in these videos.
@volvo09
@volvo09 3 ай бұрын
When are they going to pour milk in the engine 😂
@Colorado_Native
@Colorado_Native 3 ай бұрын
Lets name it the G54-Wagen.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 3 ай бұрын
When are they going to put the engine in a lada, and make a DIY, half thrown together and most importantly, 107% AWD lada.
@metalmafiachris
@metalmafiachris 3 ай бұрын
You did not put the valve caps back on.
@satsumagt5284
@satsumagt5284 3 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure it’s fine without air
@adam7868
@adam7868 3 ай бұрын
The joke You
@satsumagt5284
@satsumagt5284 3 ай бұрын
@@adam7868 I fully understood the joke
@jacobharryman822
@jacobharryman822 3 ай бұрын
You guys have so much fun! Reminds me of me and my friends messing with cars here in the States. Some things are universal.
@country1116
@country1116 2 ай бұрын
Make a solid plastic rotator with rubber break pads and see if the stopping distance is better
@ChanceSummer
@ChanceSummer 2 ай бұрын
Haha. I love how these guys went from Lada’s to G wagons thanks to millions of views on YT. You guys deserve it! Most interesting car experiments ever for the past 10 years. But I do like seeing the old junkers better than these Joe-Unobtainium cars.
@Garage54ENG
@Garage54ENG 2 ай бұрын
We've decided to give the Ladas a short break :)
@THETuerre
@THETuerre 3 күн бұрын
Probably bought at auction with a blown up motor, been my observation guys like that can make anything run.
@user-kh2yl6nn3l
@user-kh2yl6nn3l 3 ай бұрын
"chop some ice", asphalt, concrete etc. . HAHAHAHA You'll leave an everlasting impression on the alley . lol
@miken7629
@miken7629 2 ай бұрын
If you look at the tires used on moon rover used in the Apollo program, those tires were made of piano wire not so different from your springs just your springs are more heavy duty while moon rover used many more lighter piano wires woven to become springs.
@tripleBOOMER
@tripleBOOMER 2 ай бұрын
These workers do a wonderful job every time! Very cool design, well done!
@yannisinasia
@yannisinasia 3 ай бұрын
These are their best videos with this crazy ideas.
@user-tr7us4zc5p
@user-tr7us4zc5p 2 ай бұрын
As someone that's lived in Montana for 30 years. My go to is always studded tires. A new set of tires with some short mechanical screws in a couple rows would do better. Love the videos guys.
@sarchlalaith8836
@sarchlalaith8836 3 ай бұрын
The availability of surface is much less, with more coils {or straps on the outside} you will regain that lost surface area
@rossbrumby1957
@rossbrumby1957 3 ай бұрын
Being hard and inflexible, the springs either slip on harder surfaces or chop up and sink into softer surfaces. If the strips were wider but welded on the inside of the springs, it would not bury itself in the soft so bad. I think the other video of springs as tyres worked better as they had some give to them welded on radially in short sections.
@cevansinz
@cevansinz 2 ай бұрын
Your craftsmen have become so skilled. Those, at the very least, are beautiful.
@me3333
@me3333 3 ай бұрын
I bet that G-Wagon has some interesting stories to tell
@paulvanderveen1986
@paulvanderveen1986 3 ай бұрын
Ow man... that Gwagon has a lot off knocking going on @ the engine( piston slab?)
@MarkLoves2Fly
@MarkLoves2Fly 3 ай бұрын
Right Away I can see the strips needed to be mounted inside the springs. Mount them just inside the outer edge of the spring. You'll achieve the safety you were looking for, and the traction.
@okramw1
@okramw1 2 ай бұрын
Interesting experiment & learning something 🤔
@curtishill6490
@curtishill6490 3 ай бұрын
I think it would be better to put the strips along the inside than the outside. Thank you guys I'm a long time fan/sub and still love the channel!!!😁
@moonlander03
@moonlander03 3 ай бұрын
This channel is very creative so I love it 👍👍👍👍
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 3 ай бұрын
Happy 420 everyone 😊
@anchopanchorancho
@anchopanchorancho 2 ай бұрын
Boo, take your hippy drug day back to states where it belongs.
@Rob-fc9wg
@Rob-fc9wg 2 ай бұрын
Cheers mate 👍
@johnmccallum9106
@johnmccallum9106 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps you could weld a set of snow chains to the outside of the springs for better traction? Smooth metal tends to slip on a hard surface. Something to block intrusion inside the springs may also stop you digging in so you get the grip from the width of the spring metal without sinking in.
@adriancarter825
@adriancarter825 3 ай бұрын
Another great video
@FarlesNCharge
@FarlesNCharge 3 ай бұрын
Love this channel
@Calcifer0
@Calcifer0 2 ай бұрын
I think when bending the springs should use a high temperature torch like a oxyacetylene torch?
@Improvisebydesign
@Improvisebydesign 3 ай бұрын
That's really Cool! I always look forward to what you will come up with next!
@bobbyduke777
@bobbyduke777 2 ай бұрын
If the bands were on the sides, it might improve things keeping the wheels from sliding sideways, and grinding the springs to edges to push would help
@stihlRoush
@stihlRoush 2 ай бұрын
Looks cool
@murrayjonasson
@murrayjonasson 2 ай бұрын
Love the channel, Alberta Canada
@XAuroraM
@XAuroraM 3 ай бұрын
garage 54 upload, today is a good day!
@VaGab
@VaGab 3 ай бұрын
Poor G Wagon she deserve a better destiny! Cool experiment as always
@MelodicTurtleMetal
@MelodicTurtleMetal 5 күн бұрын
They look badass
@Mart77
@Mart77 2 ай бұрын
If somehow tyres could be stretched over these - then those wheels would be some bank-heist level indestructible things
@Hellsong89
@Hellsong89 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure idea is to have wheel that has traction in really soft terrain and light vehicle like garden tractor or bike. Spring digs into soft ground and gives traction, hopefully not digging in and eventually there is rim to take the pressure if it digs and no inner tube to be punctured. On car, specially heave as g vagon it just digs in on ice and snow.
@paulcerny3805
@paulcerny3805 2 ай бұрын
COOL LOOKING
@antionedavid
@antionedavid 3 ай бұрын
😎 good idea ☃️
@friskydingo5370
@friskydingo5370 3 ай бұрын
Best way to make ice cubes 😊
@jamesaustralian9829
@jamesaustralian9829 2 ай бұрын
Vehicles have been around for over a century, constantly changed and upgraded with new tech and features. The wheel hasnt changed much, apart from size and width - telling you that the pneumatic tire on a rim concept, is proved above and beyond as the go to option that stands the test of time for good reason.
@rainforestrc767
@rainforestrc767 2 ай бұрын
Should have put the containment bands on the inside of the springs around the rim center. I believe you would get much better traction 👍
@explodingheavens
@explodingheavens 2 ай бұрын
They dont just dig into the ice, they also dig into the road itself 😂
@laclinicadelcorsa
@laclinicadelcorsa 3 ай бұрын
Yo should have tried that very same experiment in a Lada
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 3 ай бұрын
The Lada doesnt have 3 mechanical lockers I believe. So would just be worse.
@ianstorey1521
@ianstorey1521 2 ай бұрын
In my PhD study of suspension I was surprised that researchers were modelling tyres as pure springs (zero damping). I was sceptical at first but it is indeed the case (a very close approximation). To get some feeling for this, notice how mechanics will bounce tyres on concrete floors. Or look at dash cam videos where a tyre has come off on the road. They bounce around for ages. They have rotational energy, but they also bounce. The "tyres" in this video, however, don't have great traction. "Rubber" has a very high coefficient of friction. I was excited by tyres without a tube, but they don't seem to be practical?
@Luzeon
@Luzeon 3 ай бұрын
You got me back at wire spring tires. 😂
@Luzeon
@Luzeon 3 ай бұрын
I’m also thinking larger or more springs.
@THETuerre
@THETuerre 3 күн бұрын
Any possibility that the bike wheel in the garden was simply made as art???
@captainjerk
@captainjerk 2 ай бұрын
I would have used rebar in between the coils. But only where they meet along the middle. So the coils still have mesh with each other, and still bite.
@josephdewuhan
@josephdewuhan 2 ай бұрын
Put the metal stripes inside the coil springs, so that they strengthen the wheels but still allow them to dig into the road.
@Wreck-Gar
@Wreck-Gar 3 ай бұрын
So if I need to chop ice into cubes for my Vodka, this is the way to go?
@markcole6475
@markcole6475 2 ай бұрын
Interesting concept…..neat to watch. I would have put the reinforcement band on the inside of the spring instead of the outside.
@user-bq7ct8yw7k
@user-bq7ct8yw7k 11 күн бұрын
The springs would go really well in the snow and would act as wheel chains but they would be crap and hazardous on a normal road lol. Certainly different.👌😅
@delpsdayoff3372
@delpsdayoff3372 2 ай бұрын
That G wagon not have an accelerator pedal? Hit it! Damn it
@JockeLonnovik
@JockeLonnovik 3 ай бұрын
Sublime 💯
@J-RAD_notAnNpc
@J-RAD_notAnNpc 2 ай бұрын
The problem is the slippery steel piece you welded right on your contact points.. you could have welded them on the inside or heated the springs to relax them to the new shape. As soon as you put those on i knew it was gonna slip
@andylutube
@andylutube 3 ай бұрын
put tubes inside them to keep the snow out and prevent sinking, how you get the tubes in is up to you!
@ovalwingnut
@ovalwingnut 3 ай бұрын
Now you only need 'rubber' on the 3rd date. Very COoL. You guys keep up'ing your game. Cheers from So.Ca.USA 3rd House on the Left (but please call ahead before you show up). You RoCk!
@bobbyduke777
@bobbyduke777 2 ай бұрын
the flat straps that contact the ground, will keep it from moving in shallow snow or slush.
@hunterswiski8398
@hunterswiski8398 3 ай бұрын
Hey those look like something out of my art class as a kid
@hunyesmith03
@hunyesmith03 2 ай бұрын
Although the G class still looks awesome especially when in snow
@knobsdialsandbuttons
@knobsdialsandbuttons 2 ай бұрын
The four sprung durch technik
@Ifiwana
@Ifiwana 2 ай бұрын
Seems likea good way to make some run flats
@pthrelkeld090
@pthrelkeld090 2 ай бұрын
I personally would have welded knobbs or small spikes on the outside of the rings, as I believe they are the inhibiting factor or a portion of it.
@user-bq7ct8yw7k
@user-bq7ct8yw7k 11 күн бұрын
Would ride rough as guts too. No cushioning except for the shock absorbers lol.
@JoeBManco
@JoeBManco 3 ай бұрын
I wonder how these wheels would do on a lighter vehicle.
@BlackPill-pu4vi
@BlackPill-pu4vi 3 ай бұрын
Probably just as bad. The contact surfaces are too rigid. IN any case, a genuine Soviet Lada Niva would run circles around that G-wagon. Keep a picture of Leonid Brezhnev on the dashboard and it will never fail.
@lesklower7281
@lesklower7281 3 ай бұрын
Apart from how good or bad the spring tyres performed l did like the red paint looked really good maybe some red stripes on the tyres would look really good
@moneygooddude
@moneygooddude 2 ай бұрын
Put the metal straps on the inside of the coils? Put a cross pattern on the outside of the coils to get real grip in the snow and ice.
@user-bq7ct8yw7k
@user-bq7ct8yw7k 11 күн бұрын
Thats why it's not gripping because of those 2 bands each side of the wheels lol. Bet it works way better now.
@novanut1964
@novanut1964 3 ай бұрын
the strips should have been welded inside the springs, good video
@davidjernigan8161
@davidjernigan8161 3 ай бұрын
If those pack full of snow until it's a block of ice it would make for some interesting handling.
@Ai_Toolshed
@Ai_Toolshed 3 ай бұрын
The springs weren't getting any traction because of the flat strips that contact the ground first, next time just weld a piece of rebar in the valley inbetween the coils and allow the coils to act as grip
3 ай бұрын
I have a great idea for your channel! :) Make a dynamometer to measure power on the wheel. It's a good project, and it will definitely come in handy in the future to test the new modifications on the channel to see if there is a change in engine power. :)
@kevinricherson888
@kevinricherson888 Ай бұрын
How would you balance a tire such as that?
@tnickknight
@tnickknight 3 ай бұрын
Cutting edge Slavic tech 🏆
@zsombor_99
@zsombor_99 3 ай бұрын
Why didn't you guys tried these wheels on a Lada instead?! 🤨
@nates.4552
@nates.4552 3 ай бұрын
Idea: make something so that every wheel is a snowblower that propels snow out each side 4 wheels equals 4 snow blowers.
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 3 ай бұрын
3:10 Work of art, should be in Museum of Modern Art.
@SLAPDOORS
@SLAPDOORS 3 ай бұрын
Just noticed where you get your content from haha well played
@tahahaider5836
@tahahaider5836 2 ай бұрын
Where
@edwardtupper6374
@edwardtupper6374 3 ай бұрын
I would have welded the flat steel strip in a zigzag pattern from one spring to another like a tractor tyre, or tank treads!
@EvanMoon
@EvanMoon 2 ай бұрын
Add a layer of normal tire tread between the two flat metal pieces. It will add road traction and you can’t go flat.
@OleDirtyMacSanchez
@OleDirtyMacSanchez 2 ай бұрын
Try refining the design with Studs, that may help. I wouldn't use these on Paved Roads, they would just grind and create Sparks which could ignite Fuel. That would be a bad outcome.
@ke8wlw
@ke8wlw 3 ай бұрын
Listen to that engine knock
@MichaelsGuns
@MichaelsGuns 3 ай бұрын
similar concept to the wheel setup on the lunar rover.
@OttoByOgraffey
@OttoByOgraffey 3 ай бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen an episode where there isn't snow, ice, or mud.
@nbagoats4819
@nbagoats4819 2 ай бұрын
How did they possibly think this would be better than tires?
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 3 ай бұрын
Do Fred Flintstone, stone tires, or maybe embed rocks for snow-driving.
@wickedfriggengood6992
@wickedfriggengood6992 3 ай бұрын
What do you have the only 2wd G wagon?
@richardspicer8253
@richardspicer8253 3 ай бұрын
There is so much tension in the room you guys should chill out 😂😂
@toms6193
@toms6193 3 ай бұрын
would be a good rototiller to turn the garden soil in the spring...
@balrajbangar
@balrajbangar Ай бұрын
You should mix and shove some turf rubber inside so it perhaps gives grip and see what happens?
@theawesomer
@theawesomer 2 ай бұрын
You need to test these in some mud and ruts.
@oubliette862
@oubliette862 3 ай бұрын
have you guys tried making a shock absorbing rim for an airless tire? or a tire stuffed with rags like mad max?
@RussB.
@RussB. 3 ай бұрын
You should wait until warmer weather and try them in the dirt.
@8000RPM.
@8000RPM. 2 ай бұрын
should have heated the coils with a welding torch, until red hot, then bent the spring to fit the wheel.
We make 4 wheels out of 12000 nails and go off-roading
11:50
Garage 54
Рет қаралды 52 М.
We run a diesel on 100 octane gasoline - what will happen?
21:16
DAD LEFT HIS OLD SOCKS ON THE COUCH…😱😂
00:24
JULI_PROETO
Рет қаралды 10 МЛН
We Drove The Beast // A 27-Liter V12 Spitfire-Powered Monster
22:27
Throttle House
Рет қаралды 39 М.
3 Scientific Experiments to Settle This | Wide vs Narrow Off-Road Tires
16:44
Tinkerer's Adventure
Рет қаралды 3,2 МЛН
Feeding a car 220 volts: will it start?
16:34
Garage 54
Рет қаралды 235 М.
Used Car Horror Story: Ford F350 Blows Up On The Way Home
15:24
Dave's Auto Center
Рет қаралды 123 М.
We Swap a Superbike Motor into a Lada
18:01
Garage 54
Рет қаралды 337 М.
#ЧП-39 Работа на миллион, ремонт блока Rolls-Royce
20:25
Сварка Алюминия TIG TULA
Рет қаралды 399 М.
Toyota Land Cruiser vs Range Rover: OFF-ROAD RACE!
18:42
carwow
Рет қаралды 1 МЛН
15 WORST to BEST OFF-ROAD MODS for Protection
16:35
Ronny Dahl
Рет қаралды 265 М.
Hummer versus Soviet UAZ - which is better off-road?
22:16
Garage 54
Рет қаралды 226 М.
Putting metal ball inside combustion chamber to see what happens
25:40
ПОКРАСКА ПРОШЛА УСПЕШНО
0:18
KINO KAIF
Рет қаралды 11 МЛН
Зачем мне мужчина? Девушка залила ОМЫВАЙКУ в двигатель
0:17
Собиратель новостей
Рет қаралды 2,5 МЛН
#asmr #pagani #huayra #paganihuayra #supercars #fastcars #speed #cars
0:10
профи на Тракторе Т-16
0:24
StellaTwin
Рет қаралды 411 М.
Комфорт в Нива 2131  #offroad
0:18
Shorts - David Avanesov
Рет қаралды 1,5 МЛН
КИТАЙСКИЙ АВТО
0:19
Films
Рет қаралды 1 МЛН