We SHOULD Talk About Bruno

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Smarty Pants

Smarty Pants

Күн бұрын

So, Bruno gets relentlessly screwed over during the course of Encanto. And really in the extended lore he takes L after L. Today, we rage against this injustice. Today we talk about Bruno.

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@supremeoverlorde2109
@supremeoverlorde2109 8 ай бұрын
The thing that bugged me the most was that no one actually apologized to Bruno at the end of the movie. He took it upon himself to apologize to Pepa for her wedding and then added he had a lot of other apologies to say, but we never saw anyone on screen actually apologize to HIM. That was a bit of closure I needed in Encanto that I never got. I guess can assume/hope that they did, but that's not the same as seeing it.
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 8 ай бұрын
Tbf, that was a realistic depiction of how Latino/Hispanic families apologize. The person who everyone scapegoats is expected to apologize and go back to fitting in with the family (even though they’re innocent), and then every pretends like nothing happened, but talk about the incident behind closed doors and forever blame the scapegoat. If Abuela or his family apologized they would be admitting they caused trauma and 10 years worth of isolation to Bruno, and that’s not something they would ever admit because it disrupts the flow of the family. I was actually surprised that Abuela admitted she did wrong. I read comments from people who saw Encanto with their Abuelas, and their Abuelas all pretty much said Abuela did nothing wrong and Mirabel should have listened to her which is why everything that happened was Mirabel’s fault 💀.
@supremeoverlorde2109
@supremeoverlorde2109 8 ай бұрын
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 I guess because it's a Disney movie and Abuela apologized to the family as a whole, I figured they wouldn't have a problem with depicting Bruno getting an apology from everyone else. Disney isn't exactly known for painting things realistically --- or rather, they romanticize and simplify real issues to make them digestible or impart some kind of message/moral.
@shawnsegebarth6707
@shawnsegebarth6707 7 ай бұрын
​@@tiahnarodriguez3809thank you for explaining! I didn't know it was a cultural thing.
@aroad2788
@aroad2788 7 ай бұрын
This is what I hate about the movie besides the fact that the music didn't hold up to the quality you expect from Disney. No one admitted they were at fault. They all submitted to the social norms even when it was harmful. No one apologized. The only thing they did was imply they might stop blaming him for things that aren't his fault. There is no closure. There is no fixing the loose ends of the plot and there's barely a plot to begin with. All its really got going for it is the beautiful backgrounds. The animation of the characters isn't even that good.
@supremeoverlorde2109
@supremeoverlorde2109 7 ай бұрын
@@aroad2788 That's fair. Encanto is actually one of my favorite Disney films ever, so I can't really relate but I get it. Ultimately I think what Bruno wanted and needed most was to feel accepted and loved, which is what he got, even if I would have liked an apology for him. And at the end of the day, I guess an apology doesn't mean much anyway unless it's backed by actions.
@markrobinson4982
@markrobinson4982 8 ай бұрын
In defense of the house: the room you get is the room you need. With everyone blaming Bruno for every bad thing he warns people about, the house creates the ultimate challenge such that if you're going to see Bruno - you have to prove that you really WANT to.
@egg_bun_
@egg_bun_ 8 ай бұрын
Ooooh, I like this perspective
@wildstorm3486
@wildstorm3486 8 ай бұрын
@@egg_bun_I second this.
@kgmotte2363
@kgmotte2363 8 ай бұрын
Also, Bruno is Coded Autistic, so it's entirely possible that his room was Designed to help him Isolate himself, to get away from everyone/thing else, go someplace that completely Avoids Sensory Overload as well. (Sand can be Quite Calming to feel) Also, It's Shown that Bruno's Room has been in Decay since he left it, the Door is Dark and It's Been falling apart since he's been Gone, so what we're seeing is NOT what his Room is MEANT to Look like. Odds are that it was actually Much nicer and Livable while he was in it. Plus, the rooms Adjust to the Needs of their owners if they're in them, so odds are Bruno probably had a Shortcut up to his Prophecy Room. Maybe the Stairs even moved to help him get up while there was still magic in the Room.
@ender_9486
@ender_9486 8 ай бұрын
Also!! Don't forget that Bruno NEEDS sand and that some sort of sercular space with sand surrounding him to do his profecies as we saw him do in Antonio's room
@theflowerhead
@theflowerhead 8 ай бұрын
Definitely interesting.
@dmkq9554
@dmkq9554 8 ай бұрын
The movie dropped the ball hard with him at the end, Grandmothers trauma was treated so seriosly, but Brunos trauma, which SHE CAUSED, is just a punch-line
@patchworkundead4787
@patchworkundead4787 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's unfortunately exactly how that happens for a lot of people. Being the lightning rod, family trauma sucks.
@jyrlan2596
@jyrlan2596 7 ай бұрын
I think it's just part of the rushed factor of the ending. The rest of the movie has great pacing until the last 15 mins. I assume the movie was just rushed by the execs
@eg-draw
@eg-draw 7 ай бұрын
I don't understand the finale at all. She was the true villain of the story. She treated everyone bad. She was selfish. She was traumatic. She was the problem. Everyone has their struggles and hard times it doesn't allow you to be a jerk. Yet she was the one to who apologised. Yet she was praised at the end. It feels like some sort of sick twisted Stockholm syndrome.
@dmkq9554
@dmkq9554 7 ай бұрын
@@eg-draw for how self serious this recent trend of generational drama is, the ending is very often so sugar coated it feels hollow. Not saying they need depressing endings, but you need to leave some room open for the audience, to show how the characters will grow after the end. You cant make a whole movie about trauma and then put a pink bow at the end like everything is happy, people dont work like that.
@RaspBerryPies
@RaspBerryPies 7 ай бұрын
Bro it’s so funny how ppl online with forgive the grandma and give so much slack but when it comes to their own family ppl with say to go no contact because your mom told you to do the dishes in the wrong tone or she said it in a mean way. So wild
@NerdThatSiriuslyLovesTeaxx
@NerdThatSiriuslyLovesTeaxx 8 ай бұрын
I feel like the only reason Camilo acted like that was because of his parents let's be honest he was 5 when Bruno left so it makes sense. He had no chance to form real memories with him.
@birdmcturd1626
@birdmcturd1626 8 ай бұрын
And he probably remembers Bruno towering over him and didn't consider that he was much smaller back then
@Crux_JCr
@Crux_JCr 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it's obvious. Camilo in his verse refers to Bruno as " 7 foot frame with rats along his back" but then we see the actual Bruno is actually shorter than both his sisters but to a 5 year old that's a freaking terrifying image to get placed in your head.
@fightinggamegeek9238
@fightinggamegeek9238 8 ай бұрын
@@Crux_JCrFive year olds have a weird sense of scale. An average-height adult looks like a towering giant to a five year old. (Not disagreeing, just adding on).
@getyassified6390
@getyassified6390 8 ай бұрын
Or maybe because Pepper or whatever her name is and her husband told him fake things about him cause there no way a 5 year old could make up all that stuff
@Sarah_H
@Sarah_H 8 ай бұрын
His parents were also the ones who sang a whole diss track about how Bruno ruined their wedding day, so he probably grew up hearing aaaalllllll about how bad a person Uncle Bruno was
@maybe8985
@maybe8985 8 ай бұрын
I just know he VIBED in a corner of the yard when he heard his entire family dissing him on WDTAB.
@mysteryxio9957
@mysteryxio9957 8 ай бұрын
If you look in the back you can see him dancing during that
@MeemahSN
@MeemahSN 8 ай бұрын
@@mysteryxio9957 wasn’t that Camilo?
@mysteryxio9957
@mysteryxio9957 8 ай бұрын
@@MeemahSN no it was just before he entered on the balcony behind Mirabelle
@matheusphillipevelozoamara3262
@matheusphillipevelozoamara3262 8 ай бұрын
Can't blame the guy, that song SLAPS!
@tymondabrowski12
@tymondabrowski12 8 ай бұрын
@@mysteryxio9957 people say it probably was Camillo because his eyes were shining, which shouldn't be happening outside of making a prophecy.
@yanaiarad9399
@yanaiarad9399 8 ай бұрын
Mirabel's prophesy wasn't changed. It had two options to begins with.
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
exactly that’s the reason he left to begin with he had never had a vision w multiple outcomes before thst
@caelis_909
@caelis_909 8 ай бұрын
Actually, the prophecy was spot on! Mirabel was related and had an influence when the house broke down and when it was rebuilt and saved once again. In my opinion, Bruno just didn't manage to interpret the prophecy correctly. If you think about it, every single thing in the prophecy happened throughout the movie. Bruno also misinterpreted the vision when Isabela appeared. It's not that the house was saved because they hugged, they hugged because they talked to each other and bonded first, it wasn't the hug itself that saved the house.
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
@@caelis_909 the prophecy didn’t show a lot of what happened before the house falling tho. That was after mirabel asked him to have another vision
@timefliesaway999
@timefliesaway999 8 ай бұрын
@@caelis_909 he didn’t misinterpret anything, that’s just how prophecies work.
@Sephiriti
@Sephiriti 8 ай бұрын
@@timefliesaway999 Well, kinda. Everything else was cut and dry with one option. His prophecy having two major different sides, he didn't know what to make of it, because it was an open ended prophecy. But yes, he didn't misinterpret what he saw, just didn't see the whole picture... well, movie. Just a single fragment in time.
@scwlc
@scwlc 8 ай бұрын
I've got a theory. We don't see Julieta or Pepa's rooms. What if all three rooms were unliveable because the house meant for them to be practice spaces, not bedrooms. When the triplets insisted on using them as bedrooms (possibly to escape an already-overbearing Alma), the house learned and made the bedrooms for the younger ones more liveable. We know Casita is a person with feelings and opinions, why not have ideas of its own that the people didn't understand. So, Julieta doesn't have a comfortable bedroom, her room is just a large kitchen prep room. Pepa's is just this big waterproofed space with a lot of overhangs and things. But with the next generation the house shrugged and made bedrooms that could work as bedrooms as well as practice spaces. Casita isn't tormenting Bruno, the triplets just made a really weird assumption or moved in out of desperation to hide from Mom.
@MeNoCallMyself
@MeNoCallMyself 8 ай бұрын
We do see Pepa's room, but only the "normal" part when Camilo tries to calm her down
@scwlc
@scwlc 8 ай бұрын
@@MeNoCallMyself True. But that's still only a small part of the room. Of course, this is just my headcanon, no one is obliged to think I'm right.
@silvermoon9186
@silvermoon9186 6 ай бұрын
I think you are close to the truth. I think that Casita made their bedrooms the way it did to help them. I think Peppa's room is full of clouds and calming breezes, Julieta's room is probably full of cooking related stuff like cookbooks and so on. Bruno's room was designed to help him get away from everything. he needed and wanted seclusion from his family for his visions. he needed an escape.
@eleana4251
@eleana4251 8 ай бұрын
I feel like Julieta did care about him. She mentions hoe he lost his way in the familly, and never said anything negative in the movie. But what could she have done? Eith her mother the way she was, Julieta felt powerless, and had her children, especially Mirabelle to worry about, and her husband couldnt have possibly backed her up, out of fear of being outcast himself due to him only being married into the family.
@ajstudios9210
@ajstudios9210 8 ай бұрын
Saying he "lost his way" is saying something negative. It's blaming him for his troubles.
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
@@ajstudios9210no it’s not!! it’s literally the truth because they don’t KNOW why he left because they DONT know about the vision. Sick of y’all blaming the family (alma not included) for not understanding Bruno’s reasoning. It was a decade ago he up and left without telling anyone!? she’s his sister she has every right to be upset
@BitesforNugget
@BitesforNugget 8 ай бұрын
This is percisely why I adore her.
@getyassified6390
@getyassified6390 8 ай бұрын
​@@lilac3266nah be so fr. His sisters have the right the be upset because he left? They basically never cared nor looked for him. I get that alma is strict or whatever but his sisters are grown adults with their own children and instead of being worried about their own brother they just stuck around not even knowing wether he was dead nor alive.
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
@@getyassified6390 I love how you just assume his sisters don’t care about him. Need I remind you that NOBODY apart from alma knew about the vision and why he left. Y’all act like julieta even partook in the song when the only line she had was “time for dinner”. Realistically would you not be even a little bitter if your brother who is also a triplet just left out of the blue? no goodbye no note no nothing?? Sick of y’all babying bruno yes the way he was treated was wrong but he is not 100% innocent. His sisters have every right to be upset and again we don’t know a lot about their relationship before but judging by both of their reactions they were all close
@lujin914
@lujin914 8 ай бұрын
It bothered me that he was the one who apologised to everyone at the end. Never understood why
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 8 ай бұрын
Probably just Disney trying to tie everything up quickly, but the ending was pretty normal for Latino families. It’s always on the scapegoat to apologize because they disrupted the family.
@mlgnerd13
@mlgnerd13 7 ай бұрын
He spent his whole life feeling like he was the cause of so many problems. Him wanting to apologize makes perfect sense. I do wish the family was like "stop apologizing, we fucked up, not you"
@Outlaw7263
@Outlaw7263 7 ай бұрын
That's just how Hispanic families are, whoever is the scapegoat is basically the family whipping boy. Source: I'm Mexican.
@BAVy11037
@BAVy11037 8 ай бұрын
Mirabel didn't change the prophecy about her breaking the house It was a vision with two images, and it was not clear if she's breaking the it or fixing it Turns out it was the latter But Bruno didn't want to risk his mom reading it as Mirabel breaking the house, so he didn't show it to her
@SavagePassion666
@SavagePassion666 8 ай бұрын
Well considering how she treated Mirabel to begin with i shudder to think what she would've done if he told her.
@bessieburnet9816
@bessieburnet9816 6 ай бұрын
​@@SavagePassion666Yup. The fact that Bruno found it necessary to sacrifice years of his physical and mental health to protect Mirabel from scorn, says all you need to know.
@mementomori5580
@mementomori5580 6 ай бұрын
It wasn't the latter. It was both. She was both breaking and fixing it.
@BAVy11037
@BAVy11037 6 ай бұрын
@@mementomori5580 I feel like it would have started breaking even without her doing anything, wouldn't it? With Antonio's gift ceremony, Lisa's constant stress and Isa's boyfriend business, tensions were pretty high at the time even without Mirabel being involved.
@eosofspades_357
@eosofspades_357 8 ай бұрын
my two hottest takes about encanto are that bruno got done SO dirty by the narrative and alma was let off the hook WAYYY too easily. like. i feel like a similar thing happened with the movie Brave where they were like "i know we spent the entire movie very clearly showing you that the protagonist's mother/grandmother IS actively hurting her daughter/granddaughter and making her miserable and doesn't seem to value her feelings at all, but we will do a complete 180 in the last 15 minutes so she is let entirely off the hook because they are family and they love each other!" what a terrible message to send to children, especially young girls, with toxic family members
@DrawciaGleam02
@DrawciaGleam02 8 ай бұрын
"my two hottest takes about encanto are that bruno got done SO dirty by the narrative and alma was let off the hook WAYYY too easily" Those are actually more common than you think......
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
those aren’t hot takes but alma wasn’t forgiven or let off the hook. Like absolutely everyone misinterprets that scene
@ple8379
@ple8379 8 ай бұрын
I honestly could believe in whatever was shown in the movie, but not that she changed 100%, but just that she understood her wrong-doing. I don't think she completely changed. People are creatures of habit and we love to repeat doing things. Our daily routines, what we eat, what we do, or even the way we speak all can become habits. Repeating certain phrases for instance is a habit. I'd say, because she lived almost all her life judging everyone and being so toxic and controlling, she'd probably go back to doing that many times, again and again, and maybe not even realising it again, or starting to change her attitude, that she likes being controlling more and she doesn't care anymore. I think it could go both ways realistically (but taking "realistic" into consideration, her feeling "bad" just because she got caught can also be true), but since it's disney, the best ending is always the only ending.
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
@@ple8379 it’s not that she got caught it’s that she didn’t realize how it affected the others because nobody ever said it
@ple8379
@ple8379 8 ай бұрын
@@lilac3266 Yeah, I believe so too, I just wanted to digress, that if we want to try to go very realistically, if that has been a real thing, it could be probable, but I stated at the end of my comment, since it's a disney movie, it's very likely not the case here. I do believe alma just became so controlling, because that's exactly what she needed to do after loosing her husband. Everyone looked up to her to control the situation, and it just extended onto the family members over time. Her and Mirabelle's fight was very much needed wake-up call.
@SuperJJx
@SuperJJx 8 ай бұрын
I don't think his room was always like that, it's possible it changed as he grew more distant from the family. Can you imagine if they treated Luisa like that, telling her to move the church to that clearly designated spot, only to yell at her when she did, no cngae of plan, no miscommunication, just rage.
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
yeah that’s been confirmed by the director the rooms change w the person
@thesadsalamander1282
@thesadsalamander1282 8 ай бұрын
though, in the movie bruno complained about all the stairs in his room so it’s at least partially the same
@dustinwashburn1283
@dustinwashburn1283 8 ай бұрын
The cavernous size of the room is likely a test to see if the person is really wanting to have their prophecy seen. It already proves too much for people to understand, but choosing to climb so many stairs is basically saying, "Hey, you came all this way to break space-time, you don't have the right to complain." And the sand is clearly tied to his ability to see into the future, sands of time and all that. That's how I see it anyway.
@ple8379
@ple8379 8 ай бұрын
I could imagine his room becoming more deserted and deteriorating along with Bruno becoming more distant with the family and abandoning his powers. That broken bridge was most likely just fine while the room was being in use, but once Bruno's connection to the family and the room became strained, so did the room itself. Then when Mirabel came inside, everything there wasn't used in such a long time, just slowly changing into ruin overtime, it became way worse.
@MissJJoan
@MissJJoan 8 ай бұрын
Of course Bruno didn’t deserve it. Victims of scapegoating seldom do. Also tends to be true for victims of gossip. I agree though, the family could have shown a little more remorse at the end.
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 8 ай бұрын
Irl, Abuela wouldn’t have apologized, and she either would’ve acted like Bruno left of his own accord, or she would’ve acted like nothing happened, so the rushed ending was not that far off imo 😅
@LexusFox
@LexusFox 7 ай бұрын
This is sadly very common in Latino families, there’s always a relative that is the innovator or the visionary and tries to introduce the family to new ideas and tries to bring healing to the generational trauma, but they end up inadvertently ostracized because most latin families are sick, they have so much pent up frustration and trauma that these people become the scapegoat. It’s very common.
@teateline9659
@teateline9659 8 ай бұрын
Personally i think he rarely used his ability as its kinda a pain to do. Hes just observational. He sees a couple of clouds and says "looks like it might rain". He sees a fish swimming funny near the top and says "i dont think your fish has much longer left in them". Bruno said the guy is "gonna grow a glut if you keep eating like that" and he sees the person balding. The town thought he had a curse or badluck because he can just see these things in other people that they dont see or lie to themselves about but because "the guy that can see the future" says it, they think he basically cursed them to inevitably have that future. Pretty sad if you think about it. Gives off witch hunt vibes where people attacked one person just because they did something the others didnt understand yet
@GenericAnonymity
@GenericAnonymity 8 ай бұрын
Maybe there's even an element of people choosing to give up on other possibilities when a future is predicted - why should I bother trying to save my fish? The guy who can see the future already told me it's going to die. But then, maybe they could have changed it if they tried.
@k_tess
@k_tess 7 ай бұрын
Nah he just sees self-fulfilling prophecies. And telling the person ALWAYS makes it worse. The Priest went bald due to stress, and Bruno's vision made it worse. The fish died because she over fed it... because of what Bruno said. Weight gain, he could've been stress eating. The Pipas wedding is the most obvious one.
@StonedHunter
@StonedHunter 8 ай бұрын
The house gave him a room that's hard to get to because he said himself he needs peace and quiet to be able to focus on his predictions. The house was helping him in that regard so people couldn't easily barge in and interrupt him. Also we can't be entirely sure that was saw ALL of his room, there was more than likely a sleeping area that wasn't all sand and what not. The house had already been weakening by that point and likely wasn't putting in the energy to 'keeping up' his room as much when he's not using it, the big hint being his door not glowing. Not to mention once the people started being harsh on him the house would help him get space. Everyone else deserves the blame but Casita did its best for the whole family and doesn't deserve to be talked badly about.
@ple8379
@ple8379 8 ай бұрын
I think the room just slowly deteriorated and became barren with time, as Bruno's relation with his family, his room and his powers became more and more strained. I'm sure it didn't look like that initially, and that it changed overtime even with it's looks and layout, as the room reflects the needs of the character, since it was useless now, it changed into a ruin.
@sailorearth2007
@sailorearth2007 8 ай бұрын
His room changed after he started living in the walls…it had to be livable prior and be a reflection of his personality and gift
@leebulger7112
@leebulger7112 8 ай бұрын
Something that's interesting is that Bruno's tower wasn't always there and was next his sister's rooms so his must have moved when he became distant to the family.
@sailorearth2007
@sailorearth2007 8 ай бұрын
@@leebulger7112 I completely forgot about that…but thinking back I remember he was lined up in front of his door like his sisters while the grandmother walked by with the candle There is also a theory about how he and Mirabel are the only two wearing green…and ironically it’s the same shade
@leebulger7112
@leebulger7112 8 ай бұрын
@@sailorearth2007 Guess what Disney calls that specific shade of green. Go Away Green. It's used in the Disney parks to hide things like speakers.
@sailorearth2007
@sailorearth2007 8 ай бұрын
@@leebulger7112 talk about an insult to poor Bruno…at least Mirabel just had her glasses
@leebulger7112
@leebulger7112 8 ай бұрын
@@sailorearth2007 Disney knows that green is associated with some of their villains so they used it to mislead the audience. I have heard that Mirabel wears green glasses to symbolically see Bruno's perspective and empathize with him.
@Doomzdeh
@Doomzdeh 7 ай бұрын
I legit hated how NOBODY really apologized to Bruno or Mirabel at the end. Sure, they all look sorry, but we don’t get any serious tears or expressed regret at how they treated them. In fact, Bruno apologizes to THEM. And they just brush over their actions and want to start fresh.
@jaredmiller8740
@jaredmiller8740 8 ай бұрын
I think we can all see that Encanto is really about childhood emotional abuse and favoritism. Bruno and the MC both were treated like garbage by their family. Bruno for not wanting to harm anyone's feelings. In the MC case, she was essentially hated by the family because she didn't have any powers, she was just "there" and that is how the fam treated her.
@CampingforCool41
@CampingforCool41 7 ай бұрын
Which is funny because the grandma didn’t have any powers either. Hypocritical af
@brinfreit4934
@brinfreit4934 8 ай бұрын
I don't know if it's like this for every hispanic/Latino culture but for mexico (my culture) and from what I talk about with my friends is that Mexican families really like to put on a facade that everything is perfect, to strangers and the public but also to other parts of the family. But also, you need to do what the family approves of, if you get in a situation that causes grief or whatever problems they'll blame you/judge you for getting in that situation ( instead of trying to he supportive or helpful). Which is funny because it condraicts how close Mexican families like to be. So Encanto was really great at representing the problems we face culturally through the perspective of mirabel and Bruno. Edit : I know they aren't Mexican in the movie but I'm relating it to my culture and I often hear the sentiment with other related cultures is what I'm saying
@GamerNerdess
@GamerNerdess 8 ай бұрын
This is a Spanish family. The only Latino.
@xBoredomx
@xBoredomx 8 ай бұрын
Actually, they're a Colombian family: "Encanto follows a multigenerational Colombian family, the Madrigals, led by a matriarch (Botero) whose children and grandchildren-except for Mirabel Madrigal (Beatriz)-receive magical gifts from a miracle, which they use to help the people in their rural community, called the Encanto." This was taken from the Wikipedia Edit: oh ok 👍
@wisemysticaltree568
@wisemysticaltree568 8 ай бұрын
My family is Colombian and this is accurate
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 8 ай бұрын
@@wisemysticaltree568 It’s a universal dynamic For latino/hispanic cultures. Luckily, there are those of us who are breaking away from this toxic mindset.
@spiritsong4026
@spiritsong4026 8 ай бұрын
It's like this for asian family as well. You have to be perfect no mistakes. They'll also compare you to your siblings or cousins. If you're sad we don't care, that means you're not strong enough. Stop crying and go back to being perfect. If you're mad then go to your room and go back to being perfect. Tons of people can relate to mirabel and I'm happy she gets a happy ending but we all kinda want to see the Grandma give an actual apology for treating her badly for years. A sad backstory, saying sorry, and a hug isn't enough imo.
@Merdragoon
@Merdragoon 8 ай бұрын
Bruno did deserve better, but that's the nature of the "Curse of Cassandra". It's used to show that people would blame the prediction for coming true and not do anything about it instead of actually preparing for the worst and changing that future. In Greek Myth, Cassandra could tell the future and in one version of the story (there are a few that change details but this is the one most people know of) people appeciated her warning them, but because she spurred the lustful advances of a god, (Some versions say it was Zuse that tried to seduce her and Hera found out even when he wasn't successful and she was the one to cause this, some say it was Zuse himself, and others equate it to another god cursing her in verious ways.) Her foresight became a curse and people stopped believing her perdictions and when they came true, they would blame *her* for causing them to happen by just predicting them. I wouldn't be suprised if Bruno would have *still* been blamed for the prediction of the house falling appart by Abula if he stayed instead of Maribel being blamed for Bruno leaving. Because it woud be consistant with what he's experienced due to that curse of having foresight. It would have also been consistant with the Generational Trama theme of it all since Abula, like you mentioned, always needed a scapegoat so she wouldn't have to look at her own trauma. So He had every right to expect to be blamed. As much as I get that people feel that apology situation for Bruno was rushed, but I also get that the movie had to be wrapped up and the focus was more Mariable is the one that changes the views of the family on how to view family. Also I would argue in the moment it's more that everyone just wants to have a happy moment after such a tramatic event of the whole house almost literally falling on top of them, only thanks for Mariable and Casita throwing them out of the falling rubble to protect them. So seeing that Bruno is actually safe and *actually* talking to them is a huge win in the moment and a huge win for Bruno's anxious mind since his family is safe. Now I would love to see a TV series on Encanto similar to the Tangled Series to see them open up the healing process *for* Bruno, but that's wishful thinking.
@DrawciaGleam02
@DrawciaGleam02 8 ай бұрын
Yep, I remember that myth. Though there was at least a good reason given for why people didn't believe her.... I've only seen one character avoid the "Cassandra Curse" trope in recent years...... mainly because her original universe has the gift of prophecy as a RESPECTED role of society. Edit: And honestly I wondered what would have happened if Cassandra LITERALLY just told everyone why no one believed her. Since stating a fact doesn't count as a prediction, the curse the gods put on her couldn't work. Seriously, I'd LOVE a myth retelling that shows that!
@abitcattywampus
@abitcattywampus 6 ай бұрын
Cassandra made a bargain with Apollon, God of divination, that she would sleep with him if he gave her the gift of prophecy. He gave her the gift and then she refused to sleep with him, so instead of taking the gift back he made it so that no one would ever believe her when she used it. She's not a victim, she's just someone who tried to scam a God and paid the price.
@Merdragoon
@Merdragoon 6 ай бұрын
@@abitcattywampus That's one of the Stories yes, but not the most well known one of them. there's several versions of these stories that there's no dinviative version to one or another. To explain what I mean: There's another myth where Athena just came out of Zuse's head and didn't have a mother; There's another Version where Zuse had slept with one of the titians, she became pregnant with Athena, the Titian angered him, and thus he ate her and then Athena came out of head when she was born; and there's a third version where it's similar to the second but instead of the Titan angering him with her actions, Zuse was afraid that one of his children would kill him like Chronos was killed by him and thus he ate the titian woman and Athena came out of his head and became subservant through that process. Greek Myth morph and change to fit the social culture at the time of the stories and there's no one version of them. So while I will say that is *one* of the versions of what you mentioned, that is not the version they're using as reference for Bruno's powers. They're using the core aspect that Prophacy is a curse because of the nature of people not wanting to believe the worse outcome, not do something and blame the messager. That is the point I'm coming at here.
@MrMia1994
@MrMia1994 7 ай бұрын
If you take the movie literally, I agree completely. That said, if you take each of the super powers as ways that real people handle intergenerational trauma like this it turns on its head a little. Abuela deals with her pain by maintaining appearances. Pepa deals with Abuela's pain by emotional outburst (weather). Julieta deals with Abuela's pain by acts of service (food, and probably avoidance). Bruno deals with Abuela's pain by trying to anticipate everything bad which can happen (hypervigilance, not esp). No one has super powers, they have behavioral tics.
@OpticalSorcerer
@OpticalSorcerer 8 ай бұрын
I really wish the story involved Isabela and Luisa more to convey the sisterly bond and make their arcs feel more full, as well as having people who knew Bruno before he left. And side note: do you believe the theory that Dolores' power is actually telepathy?
@Kayta-Linda
@Kayta-Linda 8 ай бұрын
No way. Dolores can hear everything, not just speech.
@OpticalSorcerer
@OpticalSorcerer 8 ай бұрын
​@@Kayta-LindaKinda my point; it seems possible that she can read minds.
@Kayta-Linda
@Kayta-Linda 8 ай бұрын
@@OpticalSorcerer It's definitely NOT your point. *No* amount of telepathy would allow you to hear a pin drop!
@OpticalSorcerer
@OpticalSorcerer 8 ай бұрын
@@Kayta-Linda Mirabel said that, but it's possible that Dolores simply knows because she read someone's mind when the pin dropped, so she knows about it.
@narsa1
@narsa1 8 ай бұрын
​@@Kayta-Linda think of the opposite she can hear everything EVERYTHING she could might hear thoughts
@sonja5809
@sonja5809 7 ай бұрын
The room wasn't like that at the beginning. The creator of the movie said that the stairs grew in reaction to people hurting him. Every stair represented one instance of unfairness he had to endure.
@vixxcelacea2778
@vixxcelacea2778 6 ай бұрын
And then Mirabelle literally takes on the mantle of fixing and the burden of it. Holy crap, that's messed up.
@nicholasjohnston1970
@nicholasjohnston1970 8 ай бұрын
I don’t think the town hated bruno as much before he left. I think they were only mocking him because they were bitter that he left them
@OpticalSorcerer
@OpticalSorcerer 8 ай бұрын
Considering that the whole theme of the film is contributing to community and how Encanto was created, I wouldn't be shocked if he earned some animosity since he was seen as a hinderance to the village rather than helpful. And then when he left, they transferred this uncertainty to Mirabel.
@barbararab6390
@barbararab6390 8 ай бұрын
I mean in the song all they talk about is how after Bruno said smth that would happen, it would. And all of their examples were bad things. They acted as though shit happened BECAUSE Bruno saw the future
@nicholasjohnston1970
@nicholasjohnston1970 8 ай бұрын
@@barbararab6390 yeah because hearing the future is scary. If someone tells you something horrible is going to happen you’ll spend a lot of time worrying about what’s gonna happen
@timefliesaway999
@timefliesaway999 8 ай бұрын
@@nicholasjohnston1970 well yes, but worrying about something you asked and another person answered, isn’t the same thing as straight up blaming the other person for basically just answering your question. They acted as if it was Bruno’s fault, whether he did something or not.
@nicholasjohnston1970
@nicholasjohnston1970 8 ай бұрын
@@timefliesaway999 yeah because if they know something bad is gonna happen that makes it worse when it did happen because people think they could’ve done something
@ummmmmmmmmmmnmmmm
@ummmmmmmmmmmnmmmm 8 ай бұрын
As someone who was the youngest child in a family of 3 siblings and my dad was the second youngest in a family of like 10 siblings, I can really relate to Mirabel's experience of being told all these weird rumours by her cousins about estranged family members. In giant extended families you just don't ever meet some of your uncles and aunts so they become these mystified figures. The adults will gossip about how he "ruined our wedding" and the cousins and older siblings will come up with the most batshit insane stories to freak you out because you're young and gullible. Camilo might seem heartless but he's just a dumb boy who barely knew Bruno himself and seizes the opportunity to freak Mirabel out.
@abigcupofwater
@abigcupofwater 6 ай бұрын
My hot take on this movie is that the house should absolutely have taken away everyone's powers at the end. Mostly because they've shown they don't deserve them, Mirabel proves she doesn't need them, and they cause problems like Luisa feeling weighed down by the town's expectations. I really thought the message was going to include, 'look at Mirabel, she is proof this town/family doesn't need superheroes to love and support each other'. Missed potential imo
@madeniquevanwyk
@madeniquevanwyk 6 ай бұрын
Your mind!!!!! That would have been great
@SaraShirey
@SaraShirey 5 ай бұрын
But did they get their powers back? It never showed for sure. Yes Cassita came back but it never showed their powers coming back. Maybe they didnt?
@abigcupofwater
@abigcupofwater 5 ай бұрын
@@SaraShirey yes- the final scene shows the house is back to 'normal' and everyone has their powers but now they love each other this time I guess
@darththeo
@darththeo 8 ай бұрын
Yes, Bruno deserved better. But, Bruno is a great character. He saw that his niece was at the center of the house cracking and knew how his vision would be scene. He knew that Mirabel would likely be viewed negatively and rather than give that fate to his niece took that onto himself and hid away. Bruno is an amazing character.
@bessieburnet9816
@bessieburnet9816 6 ай бұрын
With how poorly Mirabel was treated anyway, it's sacry to think of how Abuela would have treated her if she knew the vision.
@bluebeanie561
@bluebeanie561 8 ай бұрын
The room, me and my brothers were joking that maybe it was done as to ward off people coming for him for every decisions in their lives. Or that his room has secret spaces and elevators for him, hence why he easily knew about the room between the walls. Maribel: Do you know how much of a journey is going to your room? Bruno: You didn't take the elevator? Maribel:...what elevator?
@ple8379
@ple8379 8 ай бұрын
Your theory makes sense imo, those very tall stairs will not only show the harshness of the situation, but also make the potential "client" think twice if he really wants to partake. Not only just seeing the stairs, but then making their way up them adds on to the time where they could reflect if they really want to hear whatever's to come.
@emilywhitmore6684
@emilywhitmore6684 8 ай бұрын
I love this movie but the one thing that really bothers me about the final song is that BRUNO is the one who apologized for ruining Pepa's wedding and nobody else takes accountability for the way the treated him. I always sing over the lyrics "hey we're just happy that you're here okay" with an apology so my kids grow up knowing the family scapegoat is not the "problem " That family still has a long way to go before they're considered to be a healthy dynamic.
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
bruno needed to apologize because his “joke” is what caused pepa to spiral. Why on EARTH would you make a joke like that to someone who is extremely emotional and can’t control her powers when you’ve grown up with seeing how that effected her. Also the others don’t need to apologize because what tf did the kids do. The wdtab song isn’t that mean unless you count the TOWNS PEOPLE
@housewilma4904
@housewilma4904 7 ай бұрын
oh but family and town was perfectly rational turning on there own blood and isolating him so much for 10 years straight that he nearly went legit insane. again the town and the family had INFINITE room to do what ever they wanted while bruno is expected to be perfect and bow on his knees apologizing for every little failure.@@lilac3266
@xAlphaBxtch
@xAlphaBxtch 8 ай бұрын
Camilo’s description was the scariest because he didn’t even remember Bruno and was stating his opinions on him based on what the rest of the family has told him
@locasaly563
@locasaly563 8 ай бұрын
I feel like he was just trying to scare Mirabel for fun. Typical older brother/cousin moment But the fact his family lets him speak about his uncle like he’s a boogeyman is the sad part
@rainbowawakening
@rainbowawakening 6 ай бұрын
also when Camilo last saw Bruno he was like 5…and yeah a 5’4 man might look taller and scarier than he really is compared to a 5 year old
@RaRaCuRiOsItAs
@RaRaCuRiOsItAs 8 ай бұрын
As the black sheep of my family I identified a lot with Bruno. Everyone did him dirty.
@CloudyWolf713
@CloudyWolf713 7 ай бұрын
Everything alright?
@takuame7
@takuame7 6 ай бұрын
Yup.....which is a reason I didn't watch this movie. Would of just dug up a lot that I've buried.
@DukePumpking
@DukePumpking 8 ай бұрын
what pisses me really off whas in the final where the Abuela not once gives him a "im sorry" or something similar that comes to a apology, just a Hug and some words that sounds that shes "care" of him, but no apology
@Enderkura
@Enderkura 8 ай бұрын
From my first time watching, to this day, I still wanted abuela to get confronted by the family members ESPECIALLY Bruno about their feelings and how they all feel, and not just Maribel. I get it's a Disney film, but Bruno shouldn't just be fine with just one hug at the end from his mom after all he went through.
@evilsharkey8954
@evilsharkey8954 8 ай бұрын
The whole family is messed up. Bruno actually represents mental illness, which nobody talks about even though it’s there for all to see. Abuela lets her trauma control everyone else’s life. Pepa appears to have serious anxiety and possibly bipolar disorder. Luisa is overworked and stressed out. Isabella is a mama’s girl who’s afraid to be herself. Dolores is non-confrontational but ready to cause conflict in others. She does defend Bruno in the song, though, and you can see him in the background nodding along to the music in her segment. She keeps his secret, presumably to protect him. Camilo is impulsive. He was just a little kid when Bruno left, so he has few solid memories to work from, and Bruno was a lot bigger than he was at the time. The rest of the townsfolk blame him for being the bearer of bad news, and there are a lot of real life people who handle bad news so poorly that everyone lies to them to avoid the drama. Bruno is also awkward and may have told his prophecies in a way that people frequently misinterpreted. Bruno’s room is desolate because he doesn’t live in it anymore. I believe the creators said that his room was much more livable when he was younger and still living there.
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 8 ай бұрын
That wasn’t Bruno. That was Camilo as Bruno. That’s why he has a green glow
@slvaltva1392
@slvaltva1392 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I am autistic and I see it often with other people on the spectrum - how similar their experience with toxic families are to Bruno and how they either isolate themselves or get isolated by their families who are ashamed of them
@vixxcelacea2778
@vixxcelacea2778 6 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, whole film is about abuse. I really want a film that points out that being a victim and abused yourself doesn't mean you can't be one yourself. Abuela is a huge abuser. Abuse begets abuse. She didn't heal from her trauma and it just spread to the rest of the family. That happens a lot if someone is abused or traumatized or both and doesn't see how it's affected their thinking. Abuela does end up realizing what she's done, but it's a bit of wish fulfillment in regards to real world parallels where this definitely happens. Encanto is a film about abuse and trauma. And everyone in it has it happen to them.
@austincde
@austincde 8 ай бұрын
Bruno keeps interrupting canon events and Abuela 2099 tryna stop him
@Adam-326
@Adam-326 8 ай бұрын
I mean, maybe his room is like that because he wasn’t using it. Nature reclaimed it and all. As for his treatment, I feel like the townspeople were getting mad at him because the believed that he was trying to spite them on purpose with his predictions. This caused them to get angry with him which led to him tarnishing the family’s reputation. He probably wanted to stop giving predictions but was forced to by Abuela because she believed that the family had a duty to use their powers to help the townspeople, whenever requested. She probably tried to cover it up and say that everything was fine and that people should still go to him, until his prediction seemed like it would eventually destroy the family, at which point he decided to leave and hopefully avoid those consequences. Abuela, of course, then used this as justification to keep a tighter grip on the rest of the family. I guess she treated Mirabel so badly because she’s not using the gift to help the townspeople and seems to be generally clumsy, getting in the way of pretty much everything important. One thing that I wonder is why he didn’t just drop the shards of the prediction slate into the canyon or take them somewhere far away from the house.
@genehen6495
@genehen6495 8 ай бұрын
The house gives you a room you want and changes to suit your needs. While it seems inhospitable to us - the sand room must be something Bruno ENJOYS - and I can see why. He is an anxious mess. He has some sort of OCD-like thing going on and he gets overwhelmed and panicked easily. His mental health isn't typical. Sand absorbs noise. Sand is a very strong sensory material to touch, one some people like. Sand tends to absorb smells - and has a warm smell of its own. There's alot of stairs - alot of time and energy needed to reach his prophecy room. It's a ritual for himself, counting steps or giving time to mentally prepare. Its large, open and bright - not claustrophobic, lots of room to wander and think... I think he would find his room relaxing and safe, with many options for calming himself.
@DragonGoddess18
@DragonGoddess18 8 ай бұрын
It ticked me off when Bruno was blamed for people going bald, getting a beer belly and goldfish dying. Things that were never in his control in the first place Alma was a terrible mother and grandmother. Glad she owned up and apologized in the end
@midnightjay
@midnightjay 8 ай бұрын
Bruno always deserved better, 100% lol 6:16 Can I saw Felix does vouch for Bruno but no one wants to hear it so he goes along with their narrative (which one can say is just as bad as spreading it). He joins his wife in the song but he's the antithesis of her version. She sees the perspective that the day was ruined but he sings "a joyous day" by the end because he loves her so much that her weather anxiety couldn't ruin it. At the end of the movie he admits that he understood Bruno's joke was a joke but to the wife it became festered anxiety but not because it was a joke but because the reputation of his powers. Notice how only Felix was willing to talk about Bruno but his wife shut him down but helped her vent because he care for her. Their son vilifies Bruno because he was a child by the time Bruno left so he's playing up the rumors. That's all he knows of Bruno given his age. Young enough to know he exists but too young to have met him. He's also always performing for people/being different people so you're not supposed to take his version seriously. Delores was old enough to know Bruno and notice her song is not so much disparaging his reputation but repeating what she heard and singing what "she hears". She knows he's in the walls because she hears him, her song admits that. However, she's quiet and avoids confrontation. Everyone works for abeula's approval so what would she gain admitting it but feel she'll be responsible for more drama? Especially since her mom had only bad things to say and her dad doesn't fight it? I can honestly say the movie captures the walking on glass feeling families can deal with when certain subjects pop up. This is why they don't talk about it, it's self preservation lol I do think the town and family is at fault no matter what and that they used him as a scapegoat and did him dirty af though. I also think they spent enough time on his apology from his family and the town. I think they did need to give that more time. I agree on everything but had to add my thoughts.
@alexowo8408
@alexowo8408 8 ай бұрын
Here's my crackhead theory. Deloris knew he lived in the wall but kept quiet because A. He denied her her love and B. If the miracle dies, she'll be free of her power. Her power can't be used on command and she can hear everything from secrets to fireworks. My girl gotta have the worse type of headache
@merelha5930
@merelha5930 7 ай бұрын
I personally felt like a big part of why Pepa reacted that way was because she was very hurt by him leaving. She constantly refuses to talk about him and gets angry and upset when people bring him up, way beyond the point of ruining her wedding. She is also the one that was incredibly excited seeing him back and literally rushed to hug him.
@josefvalenta4341
@josefvalenta4341 8 ай бұрын
No amount of apologies can ever make up for the shit this family gave him. I have to admire the man, I'm not sure if I'd be able to stick around that place
@dustinwashburn1283
@dustinwashburn1283 8 ай бұрын
I think for Pepa, she was hurt by him leaving, and masked that hurt with rage, and put it all on her Wedding Day. Her Husband seems to be an overly jovial fellow, but also has to help his wife manage her emotions, and typically goes with what she says to appease her. Camilo I think only had a few memories of Bruno to go off of, being that he was little when Bruno left. Dolores definitely just went with the "We Don't talk about Bruno" mentality. The rest of the family is pretty ambivalent toward him, but the townsfolk who had their prophecies read and got upset are jackasses. The Future holds a lot of pain and fear, along with joy and hope. If you don't like the idea of the former, then don't ask. The Grandmother though, definitely has a lot to answer for. And not just toward Bruno.
@theinquisition7999
@theinquisition7999 8 ай бұрын
Nah, I'm from an Asian family in Asia and from what I've read from commenters from Latin American families, it's pretty much the same dynamic. There's always a golden child/children, grew up to blame the scapegoat for all their problems. Pepa was taught by her mother to blame Bruno, simple. Seen so many times here in my country and the neighbouring countries I've been too over my childhood summers. I'm the one in my family, even though I'm the one taking care of them now rather the golden child. All you need to know is how Bruno reacted when he came back and he expected to be blamed by her mother, abusers pass this traits to their favored child/children as they raise them, you can see this stories on the Internet people going no contact with their families. The abuse started before he left, his sister was raised like that.
@darkredsmiley8196
@darkredsmiley8196 7 ай бұрын
As a Hispanic person, that's pretty much how families work here, based off respect to the most elders ones, making them seem like they did no wrong and protecting them by using a scapegoat for the family. The elders aren't expected to apologize since "they did can't do wrong" and once the fanily decides someone it's not part of it anymore it turns into a taboo theme between the family.
@iaw11
@iaw11 6 ай бұрын
As my grandfather would say: "there's nothing clever about getting old"
@vixxcelacea2778
@vixxcelacea2778 6 ай бұрын
That's depressing and toxic. I've seen this talked about in various cultures of different kinds with this framework of inequality among members of family, friends or certain ostracizing and treatment of people based on age, gender or social position. Most if not all cultures having it also isn't an excuse to me. They all need to work on it. It's not okay. I've definitely seen people also breaking out of that, realizing that it's a part of of their culture that isn't something worth holding on to. My own cultures (birth nationality, race, gender, sexuality etc, they're all cultures in their own way) has a ton of things that need massive overhauls. I think pointing out when something is just hurting people, even if it's culturally ingrained is important to do.
@renjiai
@renjiai 8 ай бұрын
Yeah Bruno deserved better. The movie was about the messed up family dynamics and how they had to be fixed.
@GorgoReptilicus
@GorgoReptilicus 7 ай бұрын
Oof you hit the nail on the head. This was a very nice movie but the matriarch was seriously bad news. Bruno was, in my eyes, a really decent guy who dealt with the family dysfunction as best as he could
@TheDeadCobraTheDeadCobra
@TheDeadCobraTheDeadCobra 8 ай бұрын
Bruno is a sad character and his problems were result to quickly His room is like that cause it decomposed cause no one was there to take care of it he was not home back so it is broken His family is terrible but his mom is the worst she is the reason for all of the problems in the family
@JoelTheParrot
@JoelTheParrot 8 ай бұрын
Dolores was definitely trying to sneakily hint at Bruno's presence
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 8 ай бұрын
She basically told Mirabel in the song, but since Mirabel didn’t understand how Casita worked, she didn’t make sense of it at the time.
@arturtourinho6449
@arturtourinho6449 8 ай бұрын
The room just got that way after he left
@user-bb2mq5yc6b
@user-bb2mq5yc6b 7 ай бұрын
I said it before, I'll say it again, Alma(Grandma) got off WAY too easy. She emotionally abused her son or let it happen, she did the same to her granddaughter, and they all just forgive her for 50 years of hell in 1 day. Hell. No.
@marquistf1996
@marquistf1996 7 ай бұрын
Bruno is the one person everyone can take out their frustrations on because he’s isolated. He’s isolated because of his unique personality. It’s not just his powers he has a different perspective on life. Bruno believes in choice and others would rather believe in fate and see him as the harbinger of negative news.
@micahbeers8904
@micahbeers8904 7 ай бұрын
If I had a nickle for ever Disney "Happy Ending" that never actually addressed the problems of the story, I'd have a lot of nickles.
@realdragon
@realdragon 7 ай бұрын
Bruno has pretty solid villain origin story
@davidperkins7782
@davidperkins7782 8 ай бұрын
I'm going to be political. I've often found that people DO NOT MIND movies or shows about other cultures. In fact, some, like myself, actually enjoy the exposure. What people don't like is when these shows or movies have a preachy or antagonistic "us vs you" sorta tone. Encanto didn't have that, which is why it was successful. But for some reason, Disney doesn't see that. They just see a film about Latin culture, but are blind to the nuances in it. They clearly can't learn from their mistakes, but weirdly enough can't learn from their successes either. This is the problem with politics, religion, and ideologies in general. They want to simplify a complex world and get mad when the world doesn't contradicts them.
@davidperkins7782
@davidperkins7782 8 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, take out doesn't. People get mad when the world doesn't work the way they want it to.
@reubenmanzo2054
@reubenmanzo2054 8 ай бұрын
How can Disney be blind to the nuances of their own creation?
@davidperkins7782
@davidperkins7782 8 ай бұрын
@@reubenmanzo2054 well, for one, Disney isn't just one person. It's a whole corporation. And that corporation didn't write the script itself. They paid someone to do that. Sure, that person has talent, but Disney as a whole does not. They just can't figure out that people don't want to be preached at by formulaic lazily written stories with obnoxious cast members who don't realize that they're the modern equivalent of the court jester.
@RyanRCross
@RyanRCross 8 ай бұрын
Bruno = Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.
@TheAnonyomusGuy
@TheAnonyomusGuy 8 ай бұрын
I just noticed something. Mirabel and Bruno, especially bruno, look the most like Abuelo, Abuela's husband. Maybe part of brunos treatment from his mom comes from looking so much like his dad, and being a reminder
@ironvlogger9712
@ironvlogger9712 7 ай бұрын
This is why he's my favorite character and they better make it up to him, Hernando and Jose, who makes the spackle
@cherrybomb6718
@cherrybomb6718 7 ай бұрын
I will forever say F abuela, she was so terrible to my girl. Even after all that happened at the end i wouldn't be able to forgive her.
@JaylaisAwesome
@JaylaisAwesome 8 ай бұрын
Bruno didn’t need to apologize for anything. The townspeople and his family could’ve said their apologies. But it’s clear Bruno wouldn’t be the type to forgive them. I know I wouldn’t.
@MochaxMatcha
@MochaxMatcha 8 ай бұрын
6:31 I love that you mentiond that Dolores can hear him because Nicque Marina made a bunch of tiktoks of Dolores listening to his rat plays like they were telenovela 🤣 and they are perfection
@ianyoder2537
@ianyoder2537 7 ай бұрын
We all know Dolores could hear Bruno in the walls and she kept silent for years, but when Mirabel went into his room she couldn't stay quiet to save her family.
@starscreamsniper926
@starscreamsniper926 8 ай бұрын
Wow, I didn't realize that Bruno was treated this badly. It's nuts, like with the power of prophecy that he had made him disliked because crap happens and everyone wanted to blame the guy who saw it coming. Storm on a wedding day, a storm that most likely caused by the bride who happens to have weather powers. Fish dies, nature. Gained a gut, nature. I could predict things like that to happen without powers cause of nature and human understanding. And his own family gets on making fun of Bruno, I was so made about that. And the Grandma, oh boy, something goes wrong in her little world and points the blame on either Bruno or Mirabel. Get your head out of where it's at (have a good feeling where) and just accept your family instead of trying to mold your family into the picture of perfection.
@DrawciaGleam02
@DrawciaGleam02 8 ай бұрын
This tends to happen to many characters gifted with the power of prophecy. The only one I feel AVOIDED this trope might be Garnet/Sapphire from Steven Universe.....
@blackbloom8552
@blackbloom8552 8 ай бұрын
The storm wasnt even a prophecy. He saw that his sister was highly stressed on her wedding day and was trying to make a joke to ease the mood.
@user-bq6hr3nf5h
@user-bq6hr3nf5h 8 ай бұрын
@@blackbloom8552Thank you that’s hardly even mention despite it being phrased as what mostly likely really happened.
@blackbloom8552
@blackbloom8552 8 ай бұрын
@@user-bq6hr3nf5h actually, bruno explain it during the song where they reunite: "Pepa, I'm sorry 'bout your wedding, didn't mean to be upsetting That wasn't a prophecy, I could just see you were sweating"
@user-bq6hr3nf5h
@user-bq6hr3nf5h 8 ай бұрын
@@blackbloom8552 oh yeah fair point just from how fast that part was it took me multiple watches for it’s importance to sink in to me.
@jenaminton7009
@jenaminton7009 8 ай бұрын
Bruno stated he didn't intentionally ruin Pepa's wedding day. Pepa tries her best to control her emotions at all times so nothing like this happens. She was the second to get married in the family. She was happy that she was marrying Felix. Upset that her Dad couldn't be there. Worried that she was going to screw things up with her gift. Plus, there was all the other wedding jitters. Bruno was trying to get her to relax and just not worry about her powers going crazy and embrace the craziness. In fact, that was what her husband was always trying to say. Embrace the crazy weather. If she just relaxed, her wedding day would have been fine.
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
what were not gonna do is blame pepa who cant control her emotions for that reaction when bruno knew how stressed she was and still made that joke. He should know better!!
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 8 ай бұрын
@@lilac3266 You seem to be hell bent on not holding the family accountable. It’s like you can’t come to terms with how toxic they were.
@sfsin3380
@sfsin3380 8 ай бұрын
I think that Felix's lines in "We don't talk about Bruno" are supposed to be the more accurate take on what actually happens. He starts by correcting Pepa that it was It was both their wedding day not just her's (which we know is true). he the corrects again by say that instead of there just being no clouds in the sky but that no clouds allowed in the sky (which I took as it wasn't naturally a nice day Pepa was forcing it). He also says the Thunder start as soon as Bruno walked in before Bruno even opened his mouth (as soon as Pepa is distracted form making it be nice, Maybe). Felix also reveals that it was Abuela who got the umbrellas (almost like she was waiting in the wings for Pepa to fail) but despite everything it was a joyous day (they enjoyed the wedding despite the weather maybe even because of it because let face it the weather couldn't get worse so there was no need for Pepa to worry about it) I'll add Felix is also the one who ask why Bruno said anything (which late turns out to be the real important question. )
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
@@sfsin3380 felix and pepas story was just a call and response. No clouds allowed in the sky is just reinforcing they it had to be a perfect day. Also bruno is the reason for what happened because if u grew up knowing your over emotional sister who already has to suppress them because of her weather powers why on earth would u make a joke like that when you know what she’s like. I DONT like how people are blaming pepa like ofc she’s going to overreact she’s been brought up being told she can’t do anything or it will cause a damn hurricane
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 they were all toxic that’s the whole point of the movie. Encanto doesn’t have a villain trying to make it seem like pepa was evil for the most harmless song lyrics is ridiculous. It’s always “bruno is the only one who suffered and fuck everyone else” bruno contributed to that dynamic. THEY ALL DID THSTS THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE MOVIE
@loulie1997
@loulie1997 7 ай бұрын
I do remember thinking how incredibly dark a lot of those song lyrics were when I first heard them, and we just sort of gloss over them with the power of catchy tunes and quippy phrases that distract us from the fact that YOU CHASED AWAY A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY THEN ACT LIKE HE DOESNT EXIST!
@quaktoons331
@quaktoons331 8 ай бұрын
Smarty Pants: "I'M STILL MAD ABOUT BRUNO" We're still absolutely mad about Bruno. The only ones that aren't angry are his family. They're terrible. Except for Mirabel and Antonio, they're great 👍
@AllMight6
@AllMight6 8 ай бұрын
Bruno’s room was probably better when he lived in there
@lilac3266
@lilac3266 8 ай бұрын
the director confirmed the rooms change w the person
@robertmarianomolina295
@robertmarianomolina295 7 ай бұрын
When Bruno said, "it looks like rain" to Peppa, I bet it's his way of saying calm down to Peppa since she might be feeling anxious on her wedding day and might cause inclement weather due to how her powers work. But nope, everyone just decided it was a done deal while forgetting Peppa can literally manipulate the weather.
@Antleredangelbun
@Antleredangelbun 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this video. Short of the death of a father, I lived this Bruno life, provision hypersensitivity and hiding my self away even trying to end my self to stop the chaos i was being told by my mother i cause. and i am blamed by everyone who saw the show my mother put on about me "exaggerating" and "mental health issues making me make things up", fell for it.
@TheLastSane1
@TheLastSane1 8 ай бұрын
Apparently from what I recall his room used to not be that bad, but the more he felt distances from his family the further away he would have to go in his room to use his gift. So initially it was likely a fairly small space over all, but the reason it became that deep empty cavern was due to his feelings of isolation.
@NessaTheBat1
@NessaTheBat1 8 ай бұрын
Bruno is such a great guy.
@SilverionX
@SilverionX 7 ай бұрын
Dolores knows he's there. She knocks on the wall to tell him it's dinner time so they must have some sort of interaction. My hope is she's secretly been helping him all these years, which would make it a lot less terrible. She is the family's secret keeper after all.
@CinJyxxe
@CinJyxxe 6 ай бұрын
The thing that always strikes me about Encanto and Bruno's story is that it doesn't actually offer anything for people who identify with Bruno's situation. Bruno just remains kind, loving, forgiving, and family-focused, despite having every reason to be bitter, hateful, and disconnected from his family. So anyone who feels like they're neglected or scapegoated in a similar way that Bruno was will have a hard time connecting with his experience, because Bruno's actual suffering is essentially ignored.
@cameoshadowness7757
@cameoshadowness7757 8 ай бұрын
Maribell's prophecy doesn't really change though. The context around it changes and turns positive but the prophecy itself never actually changed. The house still fell apart. She was the cause. THAT was the Prophecy! It never changed, it was followed through but what happened around it was what changed.
@katiaazizi
@katiaazizi 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you he does deserve better from everyone.
@katiehettinger7857
@katiehettinger7857 8 ай бұрын
Bruno is a male version of Cassandra. Being able to see the future is never appreciated. Side thought: maybe the idea for the sand in Bruno's room came out of the name CasSANDra. 😉👍
@hayleyhistorynerd2211
@hayleyhistorynerd2211 8 ай бұрын
Yes, I 100% felt like Bruno was totally neglected and it was tragic he was hidden in the house all that time. It kind of breaks the story a bit for me, because it makes me dislike all the family members who were old enough to remember him. It's strange and icky way to treat someone you supposedly love. Hayley ^_^
@miao.6390
@miao.6390 6 ай бұрын
it could also be that for the people of the village, he didn't do actual prophesies. He might have just looked at the half dead fish of that lady and told her that if she doesn't feed it, it is going to die. And she and all the others took those simple statements as prophesies and saw the outcomes as inevitable.
@suchendelokidottir5673
@suchendelokidottir5673 8 ай бұрын
I think the reason Pepa didn't want to talk about Bruno is because it hurt too much. It's way easier to be angry than sad. Bruno was the youngest of the triplets, that's her baby brother, who has been missing for 10 years. When Alma saw him at the end of the movie, that wasn't a woman seeing a son she thought was missing. It was a mother seeing a son she thought was dead. They all thought Bruno was dead except for Dolores. . . . . Now here's where I throw out a hypothesis, based on my knowledge of my own family, which is conservative and my knowledge of my mother's Abuela. And another thing, this is a South American family. Pepa got married and had kids, Julieta got married and had kids, Bruno didn't. If you know anything at all about Latin families then you know Alma put massive pressure on Bruno to get married and have children. And any woman in that village would have cut off her own foot to have Madrigal children who have magic of their own. Why wasn't Bruno married? Why didn't Bruno have children? Who is the one uncle nobody ever talks about in super conservative families? That's right, the lgbtqia+ uncle. Is Bruno gay? Maybe, maybe not, he could also be Ace, but he almost certainly isn't hetero.
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 8 ай бұрын
Your last bit is a stretch. It’s said that Bruno is autistic coded, which if true, makes sense why his 1950’s family would further outcast him, but culture-wise, he didn’t fit into the box, so of course the family was going to distance themselves from him. Latinos are very strict about everyone fulfilling their roles/expectations in the family, unless they are the favorite.
@sjmhadsock4586
@sjmhadsock4586 8 ай бұрын
We don't talk about bruno lol
@codaman127
@codaman127 6 ай бұрын
I feel that Bruno also teaches an important life lesson to the family about how life's not always fair, and just behavior shouldn't be disposable in the face of pointing fingers to feel better. He got the rough end of the stick, but in reality, everyone was suffering with him as the house's state diminished. He made personal sacrifices for his family that he'll never get his due credit for, but he never did it for the credit or to justify himself to his family. The realization is bitter sweet, but it's not without an important lesson that life just sucks sometimes, and not everything needs to be prosecuted. People make mistakes, or in this case, being a prophet doesn't make you everyone else's savior. If you know a storm is approaching and you don't prepare for it, you don't blame the weatherman for mentioning it.
@AmorMori
@AmorMori 8 ай бұрын
We are here to be Bruno stans
@jdmyrick-smith7931
@jdmyrick-smith7931 8 ай бұрын
Bruno's power isn't prophesy it's divination it's why he can't truly decipher the prediction divination can be wrong because its a prediction based on one's own power to perceive forward a prophesy is given by a prophet, and is a fate decided by a deity
@randontimberwolf4007
@randontimberwolf4007 7 ай бұрын
The worst part is that I, and many other people, have toxic families growing up like this. Always the escape goat, blamed for everything, your efforts mean nothing. It hurts even more because I find myself drawn back to my family, knowing they only want me for my talents and not who I am. Toxic families are so hard to leave because instincts constantly tell you to go back.
@bizzyg5751
@bizzyg5751 8 ай бұрын
Actually, I wondered about Bruno's prophecies? It's never made clear if people went to him for his prophecies or if he went to them unsolicited trying to help. All you know is Bruno isn't a bad guy, but was made into a pariah. The only instances made clear is when his mother went to him about Casa. And when Mirabelle went to him about Casa. I think it's important to know because there's a lot of speculation on whether people were blaming him for telling them what they didn't want to hear after asking him, or if he was enthusiastically tactless in trying to help people, but ended up causing people to recklessly fulfill the prophecies he gave unsolicited. You really can't tell.
@CelynBrum
@CelynBrum 6 ай бұрын
Regarding the idea that no-one in his family seems to miss him: my read by the end was that the trash-talking was actually be a sign of them missing him. Like, he's gone, and they're upset, and they are turning that upset into anger *at* Bruno for disappearing (because they're used to blaming him, and it's a socially acceptable way to express upset, and because *why would he leave his family it's his fault I feel this way*). It's not healthy and it certainly doesn't excuse his general mistreatment, but it's certainly in keeping with how emotionally dysfunctional the whole family is. As far as the younger kids go, they likely only know Bruno through vague memories of a time when he would have been reclusive, and the stories they've heard all their life - except Dolores, who actually seems to be trying to convey his point of view to Mirabel in the song.
@Nuoance
@Nuoance 6 ай бұрын
I have a headcanon that the gifts aren't random, they're given by the person who protects the candle. (Antonio being the first chosen gift from Mirabel, as its not done in a way that 'upholds the community(aka the family).' Sure, its a great gift, but comparing his gift to the others it just feels different. Its about his passion, what he likes. I'm sure Camille didn't want to be the man of 1000 faces, or Dolores being the ultimate spy. Mirabel's sister had a passion for dancing at one point, but became a body builder, so we know these characters's gifts aren't really connected to their passions.) Their grandmother had shelter, but they needed food and water (the aunt), health (the mom), and safety. That last one can be assured if you can tell the future. Just another thing thrusted upon him. Its also really interesting, and idk if this was just a feeling I got because my family is similar, but I don't think they really cared about upholding the community as much as the grandmother was upholding order and control. Its a sanctuary...that she runs, with her rules.
@geography_guy335
@geography_guy335 6 ай бұрын
It was a very toxic family. What appalled me was at the kids birthday party. When they took a family picture not even Mirabelle's parents noticed she wasn't with them. She was as much of second class citizen as Bruno.
@carlwilliams7333
@carlwilliams7333 6 ай бұрын
As the Scapegoat I HATE the mentality that its out job to forgive and apologize, and try to make a space to fit in. I think Bruno should have truly left. He has severe mental trauma that only Maribel can probably help him with since it seems her special power is therapy. My dude chose to live in the damn walls with rats eatting scraps to avoid helping the family create a new scapegoat, just, so little self esteem even he believes everything is his fault. As a Bitter Scapegoat Abuella DESERVED to lose everything and neither Mirabel or Bruno have ANYTHING to apologize for. They were abused.
@user-on4wj5ny7f
@user-on4wj5ny7f 7 ай бұрын
The Bruno case is the reason why I hate this movie so much. This "perfect family" who care about each other easily turned their backs on him. They are hypocrites. And the fact that it is so easily forgiven in the end and this poor Bruno still wants to live with them is heartbreaking...
@wendyboles5960
@wendyboles5960 8 ай бұрын
I am Bruno with the isolation and Marebelle when wanting to feel Special; the way they called me eccentric is telling
@ShinnyShinnShinn
@ShinnyShinnShinn 7 ай бұрын
Also a gift like Bruno's means that he could VERY MUCH see future wars or murders and stop them. Like i DUNNO MAYBE SO WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS MOTHER DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. Almost like the Casita was giving Abuela the perfect tool to avoid hardships or at least see them coming.
@fandomgoddess
@fandomgoddess 7 ай бұрын
This movie takes ‘don’t shoot the messenger’ to a whole new level. Also why blame Bruno for his powers of truth telling of all people? It’d be so much easier for a petty person to blame the bad tempered redhead (why is this stereotype still a thing) when your crops get hailed on or your well dries up or your hang dried laundry is soaked yet again because a certain somebody can’t keep it together. I think it would’ve been cool to add one more song showing her vulnerability from feeling pressured to always stay happy no matter what goes wrong, and how forcing a smile to mask her pain builds up her stress until she goes BOOM then she feels awful about the damage a storm she caused did to the people who could have possibly passive aggressively caused that meltdown. From my experiences, I think HER powers would be the biggest burden. It would come with a lot of pent up anger and self blame which would lead to worsening mood swings and more disaster (which is probably why she struggles with her emotions as much as she does) Though I could be wrong, from what it sounds like, Bruno telling his prediction about dreary weather on the wedding day to the weather influencing bride who has been known to have a problem with mood swings looks entirely like a self fulfilling prophecy. I really want to know if it would have been rained if Bruno never told her and she would have had nothing to be upset about. Of course, something else could have easily made her upset, but still makes me wonder.
@williambaldwin9487
@williambaldwin9487 6 ай бұрын
I also want to bring up the fact that the grandmother receives basically no consequences for treating everyone horribly, especially Bruno. They all just say, "Oh. You have trauma too? All is forgiven." She deserved more consequences for her actions. She shouldn't be just instantly forgiven for maintaining decades of generational trauma. Ultimately, forgiveness should probably be given, seeing as the entire point of the movie was getting past generational trauma, but there should have probably been a little more outrage when the discovery that she's behind it all was made. I dunno, I just don't want kids growing up thinking that they HAVE to forgive everyone who wrongs them. Sometimes people do things that shouldn't be forgiven. But that's just my two cents.
@_V.Va_
@_V.Va_ 8 ай бұрын
Nice coincidence, just rewatched this movie yesterday.
@killerbean6254
@killerbean6254 8 ай бұрын
What I’m pissed about is how the towns people got mad that his power did what it was meant to do. He told the future, they knew his power was to tell the future, he says something bad happens, that bad thing happens, somehow that’s his fault.
@tenaoconnor7510
@tenaoconnor7510 8 ай бұрын
I felt so sorry for him. It’s ruff being alone in a room full of people especially family. He deserved better 😢
@caramel7149
@caramel7149 8 ай бұрын
The ENTIRE family other than Bruno is the villain in the movie, as far as I'm concerned.
@Darwingreen5
@Darwingreen5 7 ай бұрын
My big nag about Encanto was that it feels like a metaphor for growing up and realizing your family are just people with their own struggles. The house cracking was her becoming disillusioned with her family and finally seeing the cracks that were always there. Bruno was probably the uncle who was really observant, and would probably get drunk and point out everyone's bullshit. He knew the eavesdropping sister had a crush on a big dude, but didn't know what to do about it.
@greenghoul157
@greenghoul157 8 ай бұрын
I kinda see this movie as also about the pressure put on people to contribute to their community and fit into a role because there's other family members like Luisa and Isabela that are pressured to act a certain way
@maverickhanecak1682
@maverickhanecak1682 8 ай бұрын
We should talk more about Alma. Then, we don’t talk about Alma-ma-ma-ma.
@JaylaisAwesome
@JaylaisAwesome 8 ай бұрын
🤣
@RayGainbows
@RayGainbows 7 ай бұрын
Encanto is a beautiful movie. I love it so much, but it makes me kind of depressed. Poor Bruno. Poor Mirabel. Ugh. Its so sad. And the fact that the ONLY person to stand up to that witch was Mirabel makes me so mad. Like, will that hag never know how screwed up everyone was because of her?
@brookb5890
@brookb5890 8 ай бұрын
To be fair, I think the rooms aren't exactly the house's doing. It can't think. I think it's more like... the house trying to give them the best space it can provide--and it knows how to do that by going off their relationship with the magic. So everyone's room ends up reflecting their relationship with their powers. That's why Isabela and Antonio's rooms are so vibrant and full of life because their powers are a joy to them and they let the magic flow through them freely. Bruno's room might not have started out the way it is now, but I imagine the more afraid he became of his visions and the more resentful he became of the magic that was creating a chasm between himself and his family, the greater the chasm inside his room became and the more harsh and barren the land around it. That's why I figured Mirabel never got her own room because she had no need for it--the whole house was hers to enjoy and explore. Because the house isn't sentient, it doesn't know that she would need anything more if it senses that the magic in her and the magic it possesses are exactly the same, but everyone else's is different so they have to have a separate place. At least that's how I interpreted it.
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