Tbh In start you will face prblm with electric scooters as they are new in the 2w market but there are a lot of benefits... I have been riding ola s1 for 2 years small-small issues were there which come in every scooter but in terms of savings and experience it's too good compared to petrol scooter now I can never think of going back to petrol scooter.

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If you make 10 videos in which 9 are sponsored and 1 is not (this video) you can't blame people for thinking this one is also sponsored. Just saying 🤗

@@paroxymal7688 Yes, you can blame people, especially if they are stupid to not read the obvious description and tags on a sponsored video and the absence of it on a non-sponsored video.

You heard the story of a boy who cried wolf , so you blame the villagers for not believing the boy .@@mg1721

Hehe

ICE tech is a mechanical Genius

Lol yeah, there's so many technical things involved and he says "hardly any tech". It seems like his channel TechWiser has hardly any knowledge of tech.

This video target normies people who don't care what's happening inside the motor and how well responsive feedback ICE machines provide. Him just selecting an old outdated Activa proves it straight, why not go for TVS Ntorq, Yamaha Aerox, Hero Xoom or even Suzuki Burgman. I will prefer using a better fun to ride, reliable and engaging machine which is proven to perform longer. You can't ride any EV right now full time on Hyper/Sport mode without having any range anxiety as they aren't refined enough to perform longer before throttling down eventually. ICE sport scooters can do anything while still being practical, I myself still love riding my 5yrs old BS4 Ntorq 125.

bhai itna nerdy hone ki jarurat nahi hai, non techy se mtlb tha uska ki software tech used + electricity, non techy se uska seedha mtlb tha ki petrol dalao chalao gaadi mast

Small issues came in every vehicle but exp of riding ev is best over it

My father also enjoys riding his s1 and he's so happy that he saved ₹25k of petrol

We are so habitual with petrol vehicles that switching to electric seems so difficult but trust me ev are better and I really love to ride my s1 air

💯 , I will never switch back to petrol

True bro, even my family felt awkward to drive my ola initially but they are now loving ev more than our old petrol scooter.

so what? I'm never going to chastise a person for making money. I'm sure if you had the opportunity to make money you'd take it. he made an effort to make this video and is a positive video but here you are bitching about how this is sponsored.

If a video is sponsored by the company that the video is about, then the KZfaqr should inform this before the video starts itself. Simple ethics.

Exactly. Well said. Anybody would have done the same thing. And yeah he never told to buy an ola specifically. And point to be mentioned that when you are sponsoring a companys product, you cannot compare it with others or make the other company's product inferior. If we had sponsered it, he would have mention it. We never know but i believe it was a honest review

@@BLAKEEATS1988dude the problem is that he is not being truthful

I think ola have more Features compare to ather thats he talks more about ola

TVS's service program doesn't extend to EVs, at least in my city. Also, the price for that scooter is ridiculous. In no way anyone should look for THAT when Ola and Ather exist with good quality. If you live in a Tier3 city like me, you're better off with a petrol vehicle imo, at least for the next 2-3 or even 5 years.

@@ArpitNahiMila True. I guess I will keep pedalling with my bicycle for the next 5 years or so. I don't want to go for anything oily. Maybe Yo DX+ might be a better option for me right now, since they have a service center near to where I stay. Won't need a license either.

TVS Service experience sucks. Also general QC of TVS products aren't that great.

Ride ather once Most reliable no software bugs

Bajaj chetak is far better

The reason for EV not penetrated the Used vehicle market is the time duration, ev have become main stream mostly after covid (less than 3 years) and not enough market saturation is reached for spare parts yet that people buy them for spare either. When battery recycling becomes are huge market due to EVs and environmental reason, the resale value of the Ev will only rise. You can take an example from US market with tesla, currently even a 5 yr old tesla resale value is higher than then purchased value due to battery, recycling and chip they contain. moreover Ev will get continued software support which make them more stable and add new features which might increase the resale value.

Even new teslas are going 20-30% below MSRP. Let alone second hand. you are talking about the post covid chip shortage era. Now the used market prices are plummeting like crazy. And about software update..hardware can only support for a certain amount of years same like mobile. After that the company will stop giving updates just like our mobile phones. Just consider the ev as a big mobile phone. Ola will stop giving updates to gen1 scooter in coming years obviously same as motorola stops giving updates after some years Newer ev technologies will be released in upcoming years. So the old ones will be left behind. So you have to upgrade to the newer model to enjoy more updates. Imagine buying a 2016 Tesla model 3☠️

@@parikshithkrishnan3001 The reason that current tesla are selling lower than before is part chip shortage and part goverment rebates, My EV scooter costed 1.1 lac on road with rebate of fame 2 and no state subsidy but if i include state subsidy of let say delhi it would cost me around 90K on road which is almost same as a petrol scooter. Since then the fame subsidy is reduced and very soon it will be gone so does state rebates , I renewed my insurance and the new IDV max for my vehicle was 1.4 lac in just 1 and 1/2 yr. The same goes for earlier tesla where in california they had heavy state rebates which one doesnt add when calculating the resale value, if one adds that most tesla are second going for the same price as new one. Poeple may not buy a 2016 tesla because its 8 yrs old but most are still getting 2020 or 2021 model still. Moroever with poluution norms getting stricter anyway any vehicle older than 10-15 yrs will become inoperable in most countries. Secondly when the market was new with a lot of gov help they could put better hardware and charge less from customer , with now lesser subsidy they are cutting in hardware too both ola , ather have done that with inferior electronics. with upgrades which are still laughable at best. (Ola replacing a 720p screen with 480p screen and ather going from 1 gb ram to 2 gb ram in 6 yrs). Newer technology will definetly come but most car manufacturer are making theoir current Ev with hardware which should support 5-8 yr into their future. even phones which sees a rapid upgrade cycle of at max 2-3 yrs, has now has started giving updates for 5 yrs and in some cases like pixel 7 yrs software updates. The progress in tech is slowing down with each year getting marginal updates that even big company like apple make major upgrade only after 3 product cycles at best.

The solution is there but in a different form , if you ride 50km in a day by 3 to 3.5 years you save enough money on petrol to buy a battery or a new ev . Assuming the price of petrol stays the same . So when somebody goes for resale of ICE scooter they get a good value that is used to buy a new vehicle in most cases. In ev you save that money by not buying petrol

Petrol scooters have higher resale value because there are too many of them, with adoption of EVs within 5 to 6 years their resale value will also improve. So yes if ur planning to sell ur scooter within 4 to 5 years then ice vehicle is recommended

Folks like you were the ones that said to use keypad phones because touchscreen will go bad in a while 😂 stay outdated but the world will move on. All the best

​@@ayzu7670 ev sales are down globally and they're piling up in lots.

​@@ayzu7670You think you are intelligent by judging someone ? He never said he is against EVs, it's just that it's in their initial phase and will need time to pick up...Yes, there are quite a lot of problems with electric scooters right now..If you think EVs are already ahead of other scooters in the segment, then you better call yourself a fool..

​@@Vazhipokkannmy guy, you need to read the original comment again. The points mentioned are clearly against EV. The issue is that people haven't even tried or explored EVs and have "created" opinions. Ask people who use EV for their opinion, maybe even try them out.

Battery replacement cost is not added. Even for current price. In future the companies can loot you, like printer companies do with toner/cartridge system. Footnote- "Software" hehe

Have you tried ather's ?

yes it is, However its not only ola that offers it, all electric vehicles can do so...

Not interested to spend 2 lakhs just for that regen feature which they call magic twist​@@Ashutosh__Mishra

That's not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is safety and infrastructure.

Yhe biggest problem is charging infrastructure and low range on ev scooters, that's it

Mate it's literally 5-8 years depending on the brand what else do you need lol. Even petrol vehicles develop 10s of problems during that time

​@@I_killed_that_beard_guynot really with ather in pune at least.

I'm unsure if the people who claim that EVs have issues like battery replacement and infrastructure have even tried to explore EVs, just a little. If they did, they'd know they come with a replacement warranty and infrastructure is getting better by the day. Especially in big cities, while smaller cities might take a little longer for the charging infrastructure to expand. You honestly won't need it for the day to day. Cuz daily charging needs are easily met using the charger at home. In states like Maharashtra, you've got a pretty good network of chargers that you can even travel outside city limits to other cities and places.

Real problem is after 5 years you need new batteries and that is 40,000 Rs. I

Hell yeah!!

@@pratikrai6407 🤓

Hell nah!!

Let's go!!!!

​@@pankajshah2287 why tho?

I own an ather and at 10k km and a total of 3 crashes and it still is not having any rattling noise and all. Having really good time with it.

😂😂buy a ather and you will know

Yeah build of ola is not upto activa but its repair is very cheap bcs it has plastic panels.. Bs 30 min mein change although mera kabhi accident nhi hua by gods grace

Of course there is no competition for the build quality of ice only bajaj can match it

i have both ola and activa and build quality of ola if preety good and it handles itself pretty well at high speeds of more than 80.I would never try to drive my activa at more than 60kmph.

These guys are just exaggerating the electric scooters, batteries will be expensive and as you said batteries will degrade faster.

@@Infoelan-hr2lz spare parts are expensive and nobody is talking about motor replacement cost

@@John-re9wz Motor replacement is vary rare situation, I have used two average quality 2000W electric scooters back in 2016 - 2020, I did more than 40,000 KM on each and even after I sold those I was in contact with the buyers and none of the those had motor changes or issues even with the hall sensors. The reason I sold was due to battery issues (Lead acid), One of those biks are now upgraded to 50ah Lion with fast charging and it is being heavily used. I am in Sri Lanka and the electric bike prices are really high thesedays but my understanding is if you have a solar system at home, this is the cheapest method of transportation. 3-4 years of use will help you save the cost of the bike. Take Care.

Even if you keep the ev the battery life reduces after years of use and vehicle will need new batter which is 90% of the cost thats why noone wants used evs

I have a 13 year old activa still runs good no ev ever will work that long

@@sonudhami8217 Yeah and the EVs also charge subscription fees which can be increased whenever they please and you're stuck with it. Rich people toys.

I'm going to buy ev at 30% price🤭🤭

True. Honda the best

How do they compare?

Yes it ofcourse amazing, and great if you wanna save Money but sadly, the practicality of EV SCOOTERS is really an issue, as their load carrying capacity is VERY LESS when compared to Petrol Scooty... It is NEVER AN ISSUE WITH EV CARS by the way. The speed and Performance and range depletes a lot when 3 people are on the Scooty or when the load is very heavy Mene dekha hai, people even go 150+KM on a Petrol scooty and with a lot of load. EV SCOOTYS NEED EVEN MORE HIGH CAPACITY BATTERIES AND EVEN HIGH POWERED MOTORS TO match the practicality of Petrol Scooty.

@@YoungAtharva the power output of ev is unmatched (for my ola s1 atleast) yeah but the range drop due to load is high. (not an issue for me bcs i use for city rides)

@@aapkonkahalagayafon2270 vahi bol rha hoon mere Bhai, City Rides k liye EVs are best! Load agr heavy bhi hai toh bhi it's fine agr city mei hi ride karna hai and distance bhi kam hai... By the way HEAVY LOAD ki vajah se less power, less speed, less range milna, IS THE PROBLEM ONLY SCOOTYS, EV CARS ARE FANTASTIC. UN MEI YEH ISSUE HAI HI NHI, NO MATTER Puri gadi aur Dikki bhari hui ho, ya kitna bhi inclined ho, THIS CAN BE Achieved ONLY WITH GREAT BATTERY PACK AND VERY HIGH PERFORMANCE MOTORS. Yeh EV CARS mei toh hai, But EV Scootys mei nhi hai

💯 True

I also have s1x+ man!

This is the exact reason not to buying an EV now. Because in future it will become more stable, effective and safe.

probably but how many people are willing to swap their brand new battery for small probablity that the new swapped battery will be a lot older and with different aged battery your range will also differ so planning will become more tough

I thibk there should be 2 companies involved... 1 is ev vehicle manufacturer & 2nd is only battery manufacturer. Give a deposit amt for battery to battery manufacturer & keep swapping from same company. ​@@pinakinayak5278

Then promise you won't use AI

You're writing this comment with something that starts with software man !!

Bo relies on software more than he thinks!

It's not as if you're not getting good hardware with EVs, though. Just because they integrate screens and other smart systems with their vehicles doesn't mean that they become software focused. Many EVs have better build quality than popular petrol vehicles like Activa.

Then throw out your phone.. and buy dumb phone... If you have a laptop then you should throw out your laptop and buy a typewriter...😂😂😂😂

We are thinking about either Ather vs Ola. Or which Ola to buy? What do you suggest??

@@pratikrai6407 buy ather because build quality of ola is not good

Bro, good to go with Ola in terms of price, performance and range.

But obviously ola

No doubt man! Ola is better in everyway

Why would you buy such brands in the first place bro ?

@@chiragtyagi6766 yeah I made a mistake 😕

We own it in the office. I personally own the Ather.

@@pratikrai6407 Damnnn u commented...keep good work u simplify things around tech so good being not so tech fan

🤓☝🏻

In ur comment video is written as vedio 😂

Yes yes been riding for 6 months now..

Bik gaya tw😔

I don't think it's sponsored.. you can check the description

Ha to problem kya hai?

Sure

Even if it's sponsered,he said true things..

These guys are noobies