We’ve Cracked The Companions' Biggest Mystery

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Whiterun's Skyforge is said to be imbued with an ancient magic, predating both man and mer... But what supernatural forces could be behind such a strange device? Today we investigate one of The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim's greatest and most unexplained mysteries.

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@TheEpicNate315 Жыл бұрын

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@GentlemanSkelli Жыл бұрын

YES NATE YOURE BACK

@Rip_LilTimmy Жыл бұрын

First

@GentlemanSkelli Жыл бұрын

@@Rip_LilTimmy no offense but those comments are annoying asf and you’re not even first ;-;

@reactivereactiontobeatsbar7816 Жыл бұрын

Hey Nate is there a connection to the lunar forge and sky forge??? It's so close to Whiterun

@JohnnyGibbons Жыл бұрын

RAID? Come on, man; you're better than shilling that crap.

@TheEpicNate315 Жыл бұрын

Feels good to be back :)

@Alibium Жыл бұрын

Feels good to have you back

@GentlemanSkelli Жыл бұрын

We love you nate!

@batcountry4268 Жыл бұрын

You have been missed. Most thorough and captivating Skyrim that exists. Personal opinion,… but I’m right..

@SquirrelKilnBTS Жыл бұрын

Love to have a channel I can always immediately watch the videos of when they pop up.

@RickySama240 Жыл бұрын

Welcome Back Nate!~ Great job on the Skyrim Iceberg series!🤩😆

@courtaerial Жыл бұрын

11 years later and here I am, still learning about Skyrim. No matter how many hours I have put into this game, Nate never fails to give you a new tale in the world of the elder scrolls!

@ChickenJoe-tq6xd Жыл бұрын

I feel like imma be in the retirement home at 80 and then see a new Nate video and that he discovered a new Skyrim mystery

@malignusrex3968 Жыл бұрын

You're not the only one.

@fburzaco Жыл бұрын

ditto! =D

@SinForTheSaint Жыл бұрын

@@ChickenJoe-tq6xd truth

@cormcm7 9 ай бұрын

@@malignusrex3968 yrryr

@BlueBeluga Жыл бұрын

It's the hottest forge, and the only forge that won't hurt you if you jump into it. 10/10 game design.

@legendarywolfgeneral5572 Жыл бұрын

Madjic

@crispin-freeman Жыл бұрын

Honestly this further supports the theory that the Skyforge is Kyne's. There's a long running theory that the Dragonborn is actually a Shezarrine, a mortal reincarnation of Shore. Imo, it makes sense that the Kyne's forge wouldn't hurt someone who's a fragment of her partner.

@Mythki11er Жыл бұрын

Of all the things to gripe about

@hmnhntr 10 ай бұрын

I mean, I feel like that's on flavor for a primal magic forge. Means you can work with hotter metal without getting hurt

@devinnall2284 5 ай бұрын

Aetherium Forge - "Am I a joke to you?"

@SalientPrime Жыл бұрын

Skyforge in lore: 💪 Skyforge in game: 👶

@JoshSweetvale 3 ай бұрын

Go finish the Companions storyline, then tab through its menus.

@Im-Not-a-Dog Жыл бұрын

I believe that The Skyforge and the Selkie Statue are some of the last few remnants of the Wandering Elnofey's early religion. I believe the animals/cryptids depicted by the statues are the earliest totemic depictions of the Aedra, in specific, I think the Skyforge depicts a representation of Kyne while the Selkie is of Dibella. If this theory is correct, when the Wandering Elnofey became Men and moved to Atmora they would have brought the tradition of representing the gods as animal totems with them, which would them be brought back to Tamriel with several of the early Nede groups.

@theULTIMATElife50 Жыл бұрын

I theorize the Nordic Totems help depict the greater story of the conflict between Shor, the fox and moon, and Auri-el/Magnus, both symbolized with the eagle and sun. In that the all of the events of the game that the Thalmor play a part in are mirrored in the actions that Auri-el took against Shor. Auri-el usurped the power and name of Akatosh, the dragon, similar to the Thalmor who puppet the Empire against the Stormcloaks.

@raph3699 Жыл бұрын

I don’t remember a selkie statue in skyrim. Is my memory failing me ?

@Im-Not-a-Dog Жыл бұрын

@@raph3699 its from Oblivion. Its another of the statues from before history, and it depicts a creature that isnt found anywhere on known Nirn.

@raph3699 Жыл бұрын

@@Im-Not-a-Dog alright. Thanks for your insight.

@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын

Maybe the Ehlnofey didn't have humanoid shapes during the Dawn era. The Aedra probably could freely choose their shapes like the Daedra Princes can, and the Aedra only choose to appear like their followers in later eras instead of animal shapes. The Reachmen worship the Aspects of Hircine which are very similar to the Atmoran animal totems. This might be a connection from back before the Wandering Ehlnofey split into the Atmorans, Nedes, and Yokudans.

@sharkbite436 Жыл бұрын

Here's a tiny detail some might have missed. If you go east of Ivarstead to Snapleg Cave there is a coven of witches, hags and a hagraven keeping an spriggan in a cage. Release the spriggan and it will kill the hag and hagraven. Follow it out of the cave, it will lead you to Eldergleam Sanctuary and dying shortly before making it back to its home.

@michaelpettersson4919 Жыл бұрын

I didn't know that. I usally clear the way for the captured spriggan before realising it. Why would this creature die when it get home? That is odd but if that is what the game developers choosed to do then so be it. Personally I would prefer some form of gratitude making this one into a non hostile spriggan living in the sanctuary.

@peepeepoopoo6053 Жыл бұрын

has that always been a thing? bc i’ve played skyrim since day one and only saw this for the first time the other day. but my game glitched, and that spriggan is permanently alive in my game at the end spot

@user-qv1gc1vn7o Жыл бұрын

sadly i killed everything on the way

@tric5122 Жыл бұрын

@@peepeepoopoo6053 ya it's always been that way, but it's not really an area that gets treaded on every playthrough, you have to be adventurous and not apt to fast travel

@okupant880 Жыл бұрын

@@michaelpettersson4919 if you escort the guy from whiterun, you get a dapling not sap and the spriggans dont become hostile.

@benwilliams3539 Жыл бұрын

I would note the nord story just mentions the bird statue, not that there was a forge attached to it from the start. They may have built it there due to the special nature of the bird statue.

@jlighthammer6080 Жыл бұрын

Yep, I was thinking this exact thing. It never once says a forge is there, just the statue. Large detail to overlook.

@Thor-Orion Жыл бұрын

Then where did the flaming eyes come from?

@jlighthammer6080 Жыл бұрын

@@Thor-Orion .....magic, obviously.

@benwilliams3539 Жыл бұрын

@@Thor-Orion I assume the magic but we can only guess. And you could sti'll be right and me wrong, but I feel if there was indeed a forge attached right at the start it's a pretty unique thing to not mention in the early accounts and instead refer to it just as a statue without mentioning it. But who knows.

@drdca8263 Жыл бұрын

So would the statue be powering the forge somehow?

@richardproper8682 Жыл бұрын

Also worth noting, in addition to just having a hawk as her "Symbol", the Khajiiti interpretation of Kyne, Khynarthi's form is actually that of a great bird, the Island of Khynarthi's Roost being named for being the one place she rested, in the boughs of the great tree on the island, in her first flight around the world.

@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын

*Thanks for the shout out* The referenced comment: The Skyforge was created during the Dawn War by Hircine and Kyne (The Hawk) to equip Lorkhan and the Wandering Ehlnofey against Auri-El and the Old Ehlnofey. After the death of Lorkhan, there was a schism between the Wandering Ehlnofey with the proto-Nedes going to the Reach with Hircine and the proto-Nords going to Atmora with Kyne. The Skyforge remains behind as a relic of a forgotten alliance. Evidence of the Hircine/Kyne alliance: *The Skyforge of the Hawk (Kyne) and the Underforge of Hircine share an ancient site that the descendents of Old Ehlnofey feared into the Merethic era. *In Khajii tales, Hircine allies himself with Khenarthi (alongside Azurah) to slay the elven god Y'ffer. *Both the Nords and Reachmen consider themselves followers of Shor/Lorkh -- even if they don't acknowledge one another. *Kyne's chosen son is Morihaus, a man-beast. This would be strange as minotaurs have been shown to be followers of Hircine. Maybe Minotaurs have an ancient connection between both Kyne and Hircine?

@sassmos Жыл бұрын

Minotaurs, sons of Kyne, follow Hircine... Oh yeah, they are literally children of Kyne and Hircine

@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын

@@sassmos How is literally is the parentage of minotaurs? Are Hircine and Kyne simply the minotaurs' creators or mentors? Or did Hircine impregnate Shor's widow?

@chrishutchins9384 Жыл бұрын

Also in some lore Kyne breathed life into man at the throat of the world, which would make man natives to Skyrim. Edit: also do you have sources? I would love to read up on it.

@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын

@@chrishutchins9384 There is plenty to criticize for ESO's MMO elements, but their lore additions are pretty interesting. I would recommend looking up on Elder Scrolls wikis: *Great Spirits of the Reach *Spirits of Amun-dro

@chrishutchins9384 Жыл бұрын

@@badluck5647 Thanks, will do

@dekay1428 Жыл бұрын

The "Murdered to death" man himself has returned when the world needed him most P.S Your the youtuber that got me into Elder Scrolls and Skyrim in the last 2 years and thank you so much for that.

@rps9339 Жыл бұрын

KZfaq users on their way to comment "When the world needed him most, he returned" two weeks after the last video

@TwistedAlphonso1 Жыл бұрын

You're

@Fallout3131 Жыл бұрын

@@rps9339 loool true 😂

@Jun-Kyard Жыл бұрын

@@rps9339 reddit memes are a fucking disease

@trexinator998 Жыл бұрын

You gotta be too young, or just decades behind the praises and/or just one of those people who hate popular things for the fact they’re popular, (I am one of those on a minute level) but the elder scrolls 4 oblivion has had over 2000 hours of my life, on 2 consoles, and Skyrim has around 600 on 1, but good on ya lad for not dismissing it for the simple fact you were late pulling up to the party, enjoy the fuck out of it man, nothing will ever be the same in these games as the first time I promise you that, you’ll be begging to be able to play it for the first time again for the rest of your life🤘😊

@michaelsangregorio Жыл бұрын

I always wondered why they never officially made Skyforge Armor.

@JustaThing Жыл бұрын

I think the Wolf Armor is technically skyforge steel or am I wrong

@kingt0295 Жыл бұрын

The cool looking steel nordic armour is the official one to me

@mickgovernor Жыл бұрын

ancient nord armor is skyforge steel armor methinks

@jeffdroog Жыл бұрын

Bethesda couldn't be bothered to even fix basic game ruining bugs,and you expect them to include an armor for EVERYTHING? get real man,they're waiting for someone to make a mod for them for free.Theyre lazy as fuck.

@pink-flower. 10 ай бұрын

@@mickgovernorisn't it made of quicksilver though or am i miss remembering

@davidspinks7541 Жыл бұрын

My man's disappear for months at a time to 'consult the archives ' and always comes back with bangers. Well done.

@jtjames79 Жыл бұрын

Mind blown. That's stupid thing has been bothering me since I first started playing the game, shortly after release. It's nice to know the nords have the same attitude about it that I do. If it scares the elves, good.

@davidspinks7541 Жыл бұрын

Never mind the ability to "power up" by being used as a pyre for great heros, and the connection to Kynareth, I also believe Akatosh (Auriel and patron to the Snow Elves) was the main perpetrator in the shattering of Lorkhan (Shor, Kynareths husband to the Nords).

@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын

I feel like the Hircine connection with the Underforge was too easily dismissed. The moon is also a sign of Hircine, and the ancient Underforge seems too connected with werewolf rituals to be a coincidence. For crying out loud, there are ritual blood-chalices built into the ground! The Khajiit and Reachmen version of the Ehlnofey War highlights the possible connection between Lorkhan, Kynn, and Hircine. The Khajiit myth says Hircine and Kyne allied to defeat a corrupted Y'ffer, while the Reachmen believe Hircine took the mantle of Lorkhan after his fall during the Ehlnofey war. This could mean that Hircine was allied with the Wandering Ehlnofey before Lorkhan's defeat, so therfore Hircine could have contributed his power to the forges.

@ericsegura4977 Жыл бұрын

If you look at all the stuff in the underforge it looks like its less worked into the structure and more stuff that could have been placed there at any point. Even the alters that you place the wolf totems on could easily be mistaken for seats

@Vladimir_Kv Жыл бұрын

There should be no connection of the Skyforge with Hircine apart from some stupid Companions selling their souls to Daedra and then building a hole in a rock near their Hall. Underforge was not a part of the Skyforge, it was simply a hidey hole build by and for werepeople to skulk in.

@kyltredragmire4939 Жыл бұрын

@@badluck5647 I'd say yes. Hircine's deal had the companions carve out a stone area beneath the Skyforge. Then Hircine's power manifested in the blood chalice thing appearing in the center. Or the Nords carved it too and Hircine blessed it. The whole darned ritual might be powered by leeching off the Skyforge.

@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын

@@kyltredragmire4939 You are going with secret construction site with no body noticing tons of stone rubble being removed from a historical landmark by people who no experience building anything? You think makes more sense than an ancient site having a an ancient compartment?

@kyltredragmire4939 Жыл бұрын

@@badluck5647 I guess I just don't see why it has to be secret. Who in Whiterun is going to stop the companions? They don't have to explain why the project is being done. Even if it was secret, in the real world huge excavation projects happened in secret all the time. The Vatican, Westminister palace, even Washington DC all have vast networks of tunnels that are basically unknown to the commoner. The youtuber Collin Furze dug a huge tunnel last year and kept it completely secret until his first video on it came out. He's just one British guy. If he can do that, I can't see why elite soldiers can't dig one little stone room.

@Alibium Жыл бұрын

Another well-forged video by the blacksmith known as Nate! Not even skyrforge steel can beat this one!

@Boiea Жыл бұрын

This video is like Skyforge Ebony.

@DeletedAccountForSure Жыл бұрын

You got a heart from Nate. Congrats

@Rebrn-bk5em Жыл бұрын

Nate does get to the cloud district often unlike us

@roninsghost108 Жыл бұрын

Wait. You can get skyforge ebony? When in oblivion did this happen

Жыл бұрын

A wordsmith with a superb voice.

@VERGILGASM Жыл бұрын

And when Skyrim fans needed him the most, he returned. THE. LEGEND. IS. BACK!

@Simonris Жыл бұрын

He was gone for 2 weeks

@randomloser3215 Жыл бұрын

@@Simonris worst 2 weeks of my life

@VERGILGASM Жыл бұрын

@@randomloser3215 Indeed

@jeffdroog Жыл бұрын

Ah,I see you're a fan of recycled content.This guy has the most click bait titles.He literally doesn't solve any mystery,and doesn't include any information he hadn't already included in his previous videos on the matter.He is running out of shit to talk about,and using raid as a sponsor really sells the whole "going out of business" vibe.

@Simonris Жыл бұрын

@@jeffdroog 💀

@CassieJo Жыл бұрын

This completely makes sense, especially everything about Whiterun screaming Kyne being their patron goddess. I mean, yes, there is a Shrine to Talos and a crazy priest screaming at the top of his lungs the love that Talos gives to all mankind...but that is the exception in Whiterun, the heart of Skyrim. From the Temple of Kynareth, to the names of the city's districts, to the fact that even Balgruuf himself references Kynareth in a protective prayer to the Dragonborn as he/she takes off on Odahviing's back to Skuldafn...everything in Whiterun is for Kyne/Kynareth. So it even makes sense that the Skyforge was hers, as well. Also, I love the fact that Whiterun and Dragonsreach was based on Edoras from Lord of the Rings. Whiterun Hold feels so very much like Rohan. And the Horselords of the Riddermark would be proud to see that Whiterun's symbol is of their beloved equine friends. Also, in old Pagan societies, the color yellow, which is the color of Whiterun guard uniforms and their shields, was the color of air in elemental magic. Simple perfection. Everything fits together so succinctly.

@kayascroggins5512 Жыл бұрын

Your videos are like my bedtime stories. I rewatch old ones almost every night before bed. They relax me and make me happy. Thank you for all you do!

@LoyaLGhee Жыл бұрын

i do the same thing. epic nate and fudge muppet

@dusk194 Жыл бұрын

I listen him to fall asleep. I can’t sleep otherwise XD

@danielgriffith1005 Жыл бұрын

Sammee i fall asleep to these vids alot !

@DelbelOfTheVoid Жыл бұрын

This is a great idea. I might start doing this!

@jamesmayle3787 Жыл бұрын

The Bible is truth. Please read at least Genesis Mathew and one book of the Bible you chose yourself in your lifetime. Combining the personal reading with doing the inner work Jesus Christ taught are key. Start with forgiveness, parents are easiest, they’ve loved you. It all starts in the heart. Genuinely open up. Jesus Christ is the way truth and life. Break down before him and ask for forgiveness. Please trust me,

@grumpslowenleft9642 Жыл бұрын

You can get the Lunar forge enchantment by disenchanting a lunar forge weapon. This enchantment can be applied like any other enchantment afterwards.

@GrndAdmiralThrawn Жыл бұрын

Also, it’s not Absorb Health. It’s Fire Damage.

@reddagger3602 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if that’s an oversight, for it seems that shouldn’t be.

@DeoSiege Жыл бұрын

Yeah my boy is getting lazy

@classydays43 Жыл бұрын

@@DeoSiege the book does say that it has an absorb health effect though. That's an oversight on the developer's part.

@shanejay9539 Жыл бұрын

@@classydays43 some boi got lazy*

@coralinealgae Жыл бұрын

Never underestimate the depths of Elder Scrolls lore. A-MA-ZING piece of detective work.

@SToNeOwNz Жыл бұрын

A good amount of the depth seems to be inspired by The Silmarillion. Of course they are distinct. A good read if you find this interesting.

@TooLateForIeago Жыл бұрын

9:00 It's pretty clear to me that Atmora suffered glaciation. The Companions' induction references the "days of the distant green summers," and "Atmora" itself translates to "elder wood."

@brianroberts783 Жыл бұрын

It's also mentioned in several in game sources that Atmora is frozen, and there are references to the Nords leaving because of advancing ice.

@TooLateForIeago Жыл бұрын

@@brianroberts783 And I'm pretty sure the ice age is advancing. The glaciers in on the north side of the Yorgrim mountains are rolling *over* the ruins there. Saarthal and Alftand would have to have been built prior to the ice formations for that to happen!

@HappyBeezerStudios Жыл бұрын

@@TooLateForIeago The question is, is it a proper ice age in a glaciation cycle, or just the end of a little warm bump. Like the holocene climatic optimum that ended around 500 years ago. Like the end of the medieval warm period (when norsemen settled greenland, which is now pretty much frozen) followed by the little ice age. Or considering he time scale of the lore even something like the younger dryas.

@nathanwhite64 Жыл бұрын

More importantly, did you know that Adrianne Avenicci of Warmaiden's has been making copies of Eorlund Greymane's weapons? They're Skyforgeries!

@jamesmayle3787 Жыл бұрын

@woahablankman570 Жыл бұрын

@@jamesmayle3787 Their pun wasn't that bad.

@hmnhntr 10 ай бұрын

@@jamesmayle3787No. Cut out the spam, it's unsightly

@venkelos6996 Жыл бұрын

I like some of the interesting forges of Skyrim, and how they try to differ themselves from each other. We have the Sky Forge, and the Lunar Forge. I think it's Riften that had a forge that uses fire salts, and channels the power of Atronachs, sort of, to heat its own steel. Neat elements of world-building in a game with such a big world! 😊

@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын

ESO also added the Bloodroot Forge on the Skyrim-Hammerfell border.

@Darth_Supaku Жыл бұрын

also a callback or confirmation to this line 5:12

@KyleJordanGaming Жыл бұрын

Also that super funky Dwemer joint that was fueled by *souls* or something. That was a good one.

@ianalopez Жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to the full hour video of Kyne and the other gods. I've been playing this game for 10 years and I still learn something new

@car9472 Жыл бұрын

Same. It’s so crazy how a 10+ year old game still has so much content left to offer

@wruzzer Жыл бұрын

@@car9472 not really content, but hidden story. pretty sure every quest has been completed already.

@blindknight6623 Жыл бұрын

A good video as always nate. My curiosity has me now though. "If" the skyforge is used to represent the hawk goddess kyne. What of the underforge whom has unknown origins also, but is currently being used as the companions site for their blood rituals for the "curse of lycanthropy" but, the circle members describe the area of the underforge as an ancient place attuned with the moon and lord hircine. But, that is what they say in the companions. If we take into account the lore of lorkhan (shor) he is split into two moons masser and secunda. Lunar forge and underforge are both attuned to the moon. Whilst the skyforge is attuned to well the sky.? Idk just always found it very interesting.

@wren7195 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful thought and insight for a blind knight my friend. Also, Kyne is a deity closely linked with the wilds and the natural world, whereas Hircine seems to represent the more beastly and bloodthirsty side of nature, and as a Daedra is almost in direct conflict with Kyne/"her version of wildness." It's possible that the Lunar Forge and the Underforge were both originally tuned to the Bodies of Lorkhan and mirrored the Sky of Kyne (One moon further away, the other opposite/beneath the Skyforge)... but were later usurped by Hircine and/or his followers. Perhaps they sought to desecrate such a shrine to Kyne and her spouse, but incapable of destroying such a relic as the Skyforge they could only pervert the Underforge. Indeed, as the lycanthropy was introduced to the Companions by the witches who were direct followers of Hircine, it's possible that was done on purpose to corrupt the shrine of their rival deity. What better way than to trick the Companions into being forced to follow/adapt to Hircine's vision of the Wilds, right beneath the shadow of the great bird itself. Pleasure to meet and speak with you friend. Be safe and well

@jamesmayle3787 Жыл бұрын

@willieschick7315 Жыл бұрын

@@jamesmayle3787 bro shut up

@Alibium Жыл бұрын

This really was a banger Nate! Enjoyed every nanosecond of it! It also makes me so happy to read through all the comments and see all of the nice things people say to you, you totally deserve it mate!

@Alibium Жыл бұрын

@@TheEpicNate315-_- YOO EPICNATE HAS BECOME SUCH A GREAT KZfaqR, HE EVEN GOT THE BOTS COMING! LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

@4RedJohn Жыл бұрын

21:13 "Perhaps because Kodlak was the first Companion leader in centuries to have been freed from the curse, the Forge accepted him in a way that it hadn't for other recent leaders." - Unlikely, considering he says this line even if you don't free Kodlak's spirit.

@Sam-lu3zy Жыл бұрын

thats bethesda though, i think thats a dialogue mistake by them

@TheeWeebster Жыл бұрын

@@Sam-lu3zy I'm partial to believe it'd be a mistake. Or it's just their way of simultaneously giving you an idea as to why it has its power, as well as one of multiple rewards for reaching the end companions quest line.

@spinosaurusdex Жыл бұрын

I think it's on Nate here--you can only free Kodlak's spirit *after* he dies. He most likely just had a powerful soul, or perhaps the Skyforge is strengthened by human sacrifice.

@johnvazakas970 Жыл бұрын

@@spinosaurusdex I would say that one is on his writers to be fair

@vidiad Жыл бұрын

Mouth and belly

@Natsirt666 Жыл бұрын

Weird question, but would you consider doing a series of short videos where you read all the books found within the world of The Elder Scrolls? Like an audio-book version for Skyrim, "Skydible", IYKWIM...

@jamesmayle3787 Жыл бұрын

@chypearce8457 Жыл бұрын

Skydible sounds awesome

@rainynight02 Жыл бұрын

@@jamesmayle3787 Your comment has no place here. Stop trying to force your beliefs onto others.

@Joe_Joe_The_HvacMan Жыл бұрын

Gopher did a complete reading of all the books of Skyrim. He is an excellent youtuber; Skyrim fan and has a great voice. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fN-ZjcKnt6jOdoU.html

@chypearce8457 Жыл бұрын

@@Joe_Joe_The_HvacMan Thank you for the info! I will definitely check him out

@ernieduran6589 Жыл бұрын

This is perhaps, in my opinion your best video. You took a lot of information that gets scattered throughout the game and arranged it to make a very entertaining video with a compelling and theory on a subject that originally I wasn’t all that interested in. Great job.

@theelderscrolls_area Жыл бұрын

Your posts always make my day...

@TheEpicNate315_- Жыл бұрын

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@kurai0kami541 Жыл бұрын

I know this video isn't part of the "10 tiny details" series, but I just noticed something while walking through Solitude and I'm not sure if you've covered it yet. When walking near the sewer caps, you can actually hear what sounds like water running through pipes. After playing this game for years, it's amazing the things you can still find! (I am playing on the Anniversary Edition)

@kinnellian Жыл бұрын

Saints and Seducers CC content... nuff said 😁👍

@lotusjewell9984 Жыл бұрын

Supposedly a mysterious winter overtook Atmora. Freezing the land and causing the nords to migrate south to Skyrim. Now that is a mystery that needs to be solved. What caused Atmora to freeze?

@willieschick7315 Жыл бұрын

Real question is anyone living there now?

@jamesmiles6484 Жыл бұрын

To be clear, the glaciation of atmora is most likely a reference to fimbulwinter.

@Siggorillo 8 ай бұрын

I mean... ice ages aren't a huge mystery unless we have a reason to believe it came about because of some mythic event. That would for sure be influenced by fimbulwinter, which in turn probably was inspired in real life from the small ice age during the migration period.

@connorperkins641 3 ай бұрын

Whatever it was seems to have affected more than atmora too. Skyrim seems to be getting colder over time too from it's early descriptions as well as the golden coast used to be a jungle in cyrodil.

@Shaheem89 Жыл бұрын

Funny, in czech language werewolf is vlkodlak, leader of companions is Kodlak. Of course in most of the slavic languages is it also similar, but in czech is it the closest word. It comes from ancient slavic form vъlkodlakъ (wolf skin) Coincidence? I don't think so :D

@CoolMaisa Жыл бұрын

Well that's damn cool! B)

@360Roko Жыл бұрын

Yeah its Vukodlak in Croatian as well. Vuk - wolf dlak - hair/fur. Pretty sure Farkas and Vilkas also mean wolf in some other language. Edit: i checked it out, Farkas is wolf in Hungarian and Vilkas is wolf in lithuanian

@peterbakai5614 Жыл бұрын

There is a companion named farkas and it translates to wolf in hungarian too btw

@Sprite_cranberry01 9 ай бұрын

@@360Roko I was about to say that. I'm Hungarian and the first time I played the game all those years ago I really liked that detail.

@Noobzlikeu 5 ай бұрын

Vilkas and Farkas are Lithuanian and Hungarian respectively for 'wolf'. Fun little tidbit. Basically, every member of the Circle is somehow referencing the fact that they're werewolves.

@Galimeer5 Жыл бұрын

Not enough people talk about how absolutely fucking metal Ysgramor's war against the snow elves was. He took 500 warriors, and won a war. 500. That's the population of a high school. Ysgramor is basically Leonidas from _300_ ...except he actually wins.

@lighterudite Жыл бұрын

Don't forget they had dragons and Azhidal heavily enchanting their armor and weapons.

@ComeNalgi Жыл бұрын

@@lighterudite I didn't know this I thought it was because Ysgramor could shout or something

@lighterudite Жыл бұрын

@@ComeNalgi Now I think on it, only dragons and dragonborns were able to shout at that time. Only much later during the Dragon War, Paarthurnax teached the nords how to shout.

@WoWhistorian Жыл бұрын

I stumbled upon your channel a few months ago and immediately loved it, but was worried/sad because your upload dates made it seem like you had, or were in the process of, abandoning the channel. I subscribed regardless, in hopes I was wrong. I'm so happy to see you still uploading. You do a fantastic job with these videos, and you deserve every bit of success you've earned, and so much more.

@nulikka6967 Жыл бұрын

He had a lot of irl issues that got in the way, and made it so he couldn't upload videos. But he's, thankfully, gotten through most of those. I'm glad he was able to come back to this! Missed his in depth analysis of all the random bits of skyrim lol.

@WoWhistorian Жыл бұрын

@@nulikka6967 Aww, that's unfortunate but I'm really glad he's been able to make progress on those issues and start coming back to KZfaq. Hopefully everything continues going well for him going forward!

@jamesmayle3787 Жыл бұрын

@JustMe-iw3ev Жыл бұрын

I've played hundreds of hours of Skyrim since its release and only in this video did I realize, the Companions's mead hall was built out of their overturned ship. It's amazing how many new nuggets of lore are still out there to be found.

@gamerboy6787 Жыл бұрын

Me too. I never made that connection myself either. I'd look at the roof of the building and wouldn't think twice of it.

@jlighthammer6080 Жыл бұрын

Ya gotta read the books, bud lol

@Kadoogan83 Жыл бұрын

Same here. I've never played any of the previous elder scrolls games, so a lot of the lore is lost on me. By reading the books in skyrim (and skyrim only) Ive pieced together, and understand the basics, like the different territories, races, and some events, both current and historical. But the companion's mead hall is one (of many I'm sure) that I was completely unaware of. And it was hiding in plain sight too, lol.

@matthewplizga1920 Жыл бұрын

Cmon boys we gotta use our god given eyes

@rustyhowe3907 Жыл бұрын

@@matthewplizga1920 Ikr? I spotted it as soon as I entered Whiterun the first time, and I'm half blind lol.

@nemosthebandit Жыл бұрын

This Lore alone would make for an incredible game. Those mods are beyond impressive. They make Skyrim look like a renaissance painting, it’s beautiful.

@jeremy1860 Жыл бұрын

A lot of the time, it feels like the developers of these games didn't actually come up with an answer for any of these questions. Like they just put in this cool feature, allowed there to be a mystery to it, and just sat back and watched while the fandom speculated for years about it 😅

@janeenschultz8502 Жыл бұрын

Someone on the staff must be a D&D DM. lol

@Her_Imperious_Condescension Жыл бұрын

@@janeenschultz8502 Well, funny enough, that's how the entire franchise was started. Homebrew D&D.

@badluck5647 Жыл бұрын

Bethesda developers have actually admitted to doing this.

@janeenschultz8502 Жыл бұрын

@@badluck5647 Can recognize it as a fellow DM.

@jamesmayle3787 Жыл бұрын

@joshfennell2257 Жыл бұрын

Really appreciate the slower narration, Nate. I feel like you’re really living in the topic and taking your time with it. Thank you.

@jamesmayle3787 Жыл бұрын

@Vidhur Жыл бұрын

22:07 to 22:22 Eorlund isn't the only one, if the Dovahkiin uses the Skyforge to craft any of the steel weapons Eorlund sells as Skyforge steel version (this excludes a few), they will be Skyforge steel versions. It's a pretty nice touch.

@VenomSteak Жыл бұрын

I just wanted to say, it's so good to have you back and making content again. Skyrim is my comfort game, as close to a home in a video game as I've ever had. You're helping keep that world alive for me, and I appreciate you for that, a lot. Thank you.

@jakeevans7948 Жыл бұрын

That would be super neat if Bethesda added an Easter egg referencing nate in TES 6

@preciousfarris7097 Жыл бұрын

They fucken better😭😭😭 I'll pitch a fit

@georgehouliaras7239 Жыл бұрын

Maybe a character with some of his iconic quotes like "Only Akatosh knows the truth and Akatosh won't tell."

@Callisto_Arcas Жыл бұрын

Another amazing commentary! I look forward to the one hour deep dive. Thank you for all of the work you put into the production of your videos!

@Apollos-rest Жыл бұрын

Dude i am seriously at a low point in life rn but seeing you still posting after your break comforted me for some reason Thank you

@SynthLizard8 Жыл бұрын

I always hated how I was forced to turn in to a werewolf, it not only messes with my character's head-cannon, it also effects my playstyle. I generally like playing as a wholesome priesty boy that dabbles in healing spells, not turn in to a blood-thirsty beast, also, the Silver Hand would of been a cool faction to join and having a silver weapon would be drippy AF.

@TheDevilbound Жыл бұрын

head-canon*

@SynthLizard8 Жыл бұрын

@@TheDevilbound I'm pretty sure it's not spelt with a asterix ether.

@MrAlphaBeck Жыл бұрын

@@SynthLizard8 an*

@SynthLizard8 Жыл бұрын

@@MrAlphaBeck Nice try but 'A' and 'An' is based on pronunciation, not context. For example: "A event" vs "An event" insinuating I could be referring to one of many events vs a specific event among many, both are synonymous and they are just both different flavours referring to the same context.

@Xinderkan Жыл бұрын

The amount of times I come back to Skyrim, reach that part of the quest and realise, oh poop, I forgot the no werewolf mod, 1 moment my dear companions *warps reality*

@robbyninja4615 Жыл бұрын

something that always nagged at me was the fact that the Circle use the Underforge to gift lycanthropy, instead of doing it via any other means. so i think the Underforge has some connection to Hircine.

@SebasTian58323 Жыл бұрын

I think they use the underforge because it's a secret place nearby they can easily get to buy people who don't know probably won't be able to get into

@doomdjdj Жыл бұрын

@@SebasTian58323 My theory is this: Kyne suddenly detached her essence from the forge. The Companions needed the Skyforge to keep being the skyforge. So since they've been Turing into Warewolfs they turned to Hircine for his blessing instead. Hence the Underforge used for the initiation ritual. and keeping the ritual a secret so ppl from Whiterun dont end up attacking the Companions.

@glytchmeister9856 Жыл бұрын

Others have mentioned that Kajit beliefs mention an alliance between Hircine and Kyne and possibly also Lorkhan to defeat a corrupted… something with a name that starts with a Y, sorry. I think the Skyforge runs on a mix of Aedric and Daedric magic.

@EvelynnWinters2000 Жыл бұрын

I'm calling shenanigans No way the Jorrvaskr ship fit in those tiny streams by Whiterun

@jaredrussell4064 Жыл бұрын

Rivers change over seasons, let alone ages. It may have been larger in the past.

@EvelynnWinters2000 Жыл бұрын

@@jaredrussell4064 You dare bring logic into the KZfaq comments section? Seriously though, the streams are too small, and looking at the erosion, you can see where the water reaches to It could have been different 5000 years ago when they were doing it, but if the water was high enough for the ship to sail on it, the skyforge would not have been on a plain, it would've been on an island in the middle of a massive lake

@TheSpiritsLease Жыл бұрын

@@EvelynnWinters2000 Maybe the ship was magic?

@EvelynnWinters2000 Жыл бұрын

@@TheSpiritsLease Pfft, magic? In Skyrim? No way lol While I guess technically, that would be possible, it also would've been something that would've been mentioned SOMEWHERE that his ship is magical

@jaredrussell4064 Жыл бұрын

@An Insane Moose. Wait, I just read the volume of Songs of the Return. They didn't sail. It says, "Southwards they went, by beast and by foot." Then later it says that they built the hall out of their ship.

@notabene9804 Жыл бұрын

Bro, the graphics for maps and showing people's movement across tamriel is a much needed feature of all of Elder Scrolls LoreTube; big leap forward man!

@dudeadonaiski Жыл бұрын

No wonder the snow elves were afraid of the Forge. The Forge was Kyne's side meaning it was wanderer elnohfey territory making the old elnohfey descendants (elves) fear it now

@kingofstrangeness7014 Жыл бұрын

What

@blakev.4540 Жыл бұрын

Yes. The elves were afraid of the hawk, kyne. An enemy of their ancestors, the old elnhofey.

@jagnestormskull3178 Жыл бұрын

@@kingofstrangeness7014 To summarize - The Ehlnofey were at the bottom of the totem pole of the gods (to the point that names of individual Ehlnofey are no longer known except to Druids or other worshippers of local nature spirits) that created Nirn (the Aedra, or ancestors), and became temporary, having to either merge with the world to survive or live on through their children. The Wandering Ehlnofey are the ancestors of men and giants, called such because they had to *wander* the surface of Nirn before finding Aldmeris, home of the Old Ehlnofey, ancestors of elves and Khajiit (that's another story, but tl;dr Wood Elves are more closely related to Khajiit than they are to the High Elves or any other elven races). The Wandering Ehlnofey thought that they would be welcomed back with open arms by their brethren, as the races had still not split that much at this point. For whatever reason, whether because the Old Ehlnofey blamed Shor, High King of the Wandering Ehlnofey, for them becoming temporary, or because the Wandering Ehlnofey had forgotten many customs and looked disgusting, the Old Ehlnofey rejected them from Aldmeris. This started a war that goes by many names, my favorite of which is the War of Manifest Metaphors. Many of the lands which once existed on Nirn sunk during this war. The elven death god Xarxes was likely adopted as the mannish death god Orkey during this time. The end stages of this war resulted in the betrayal of Shor by the elven gods and the removal of His Heart, along with Kyne gathering the Wandering Ehlnofey to the Throat of the World in order to stabilize their forms. Entering fan speculation - the mannish gods and the elven gods would have both had places of power in this terrible war, with the Skyforge and the Lunar Forge being places of power for the mannish gods. The Snow Elves feared the Skyforge because it was a place of power for enemy gods, specifically Kyne, a terrible wind that had likely destroyed many of their ancestors. I hope that clears it up, at least somewhat. Ask as many questions as you like, if it didn't clear it up. Much of this lore comes from either "The Monomyth" or "The Anuad."

@anut8733 Жыл бұрын

Me who uses Altmer race, wield the Wuuthrad and also crafting at the Skyforge: 😐

@SillyGooseTV Жыл бұрын

@@jagnestormskull3178 could we argue that the giants we see may be the only ones who may know the true origins of the skyforge?

@loremasterghosty Жыл бұрын

Keep these videos coming! So excited to see videos again! Any plans for a possible series of some sort outside of this?

@trevorturner6921 Жыл бұрын

I love that you still have so much passion for this game, hope you keep enjoying making content and diving deep into Skyrims lore👍

@MidasMakeItRain Жыл бұрын

That would also explain why silent moon camp looks like a burial mound entrance, since shor is dead.

@fandomrecipes1195 Жыл бұрын

Such an incredible game series. Kirkbride and the other lore writers are masters. Glad you're back to helping us explore this amazing series.

@RealUlrichLeland Жыл бұрын

Excellent video, very comprehensive. The only point I might add is that if the skyforge and lunar forge really are from the merethic era, then the nearby throat of the world must surely also relate to them.

@chrismoore58 Жыл бұрын

In the description, the captured snow elves say the forge is from before the elves. And the elves refused to be in the valley that is now Whiterun due to their fear of the Skyforge. Therefore, pre-Merithic era.

@RickClark58 Жыл бұрын

I think you nailed it. I have wondered about Jorrvaskr as it did look like a ship and I guess it was at one time. Very interesting lore.

@jamesmayle3787 Жыл бұрын

@Vivec_Emrys_Kala_Azar Жыл бұрын

This has to be my favourite mystery you've covered, absolutely great work bro!

@mikewang2118 Жыл бұрын

I have to say that this is one of the best Skyrim review channels I have seen, loved your videos! Always something to learn about Skyrim!Great to see that Skyrim community is still going strong even after all these years :)

@MoltenUprisingMK Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you're taking a break from the Iceberg thing. And believe me, I love hearing about the Companions and the Skyforge.

@cassssss Жыл бұрын

So happy to have more videos from you, thank you! ❤

@kazdean Жыл бұрын

It has been years since I played Skyrim but I have a vague recollection that the moon forge works when both moons are visible in the sky.

@TangoKittyOmicron Жыл бұрын

The theory I've always had is that you have the Lunar Forge which crafts weapons that gain abilities under a full moon, and then you have the Skyforge (which might represent the sun) that creates a stronger steel, and although I haven't been able to prove it, I feel like Skyforge weapons accept and enhance burning enchantments (targets burn/targets on fire take more damage), and Lunar weapons seem to enhance Absorb Health/Stamina/Magica enchantments, as well as give a few more seconds to use soul trap. What's more, we have within this world werewolves created by Hircine,, and vampires by Molag Bal. Vampires are particularly weak to fire and sunlight, and werewolves are weak to draining poisons/spells. Another interesting bit of lore is that about every 1,000 years, Hircine returns to the "earth" so to speak to have a massive hunt, where both people and animals become the prey. Now, if I were a rival of Hircine's, I may want to balance the playing field because during those hunts, his followers are very powerful in their werewolf form, and their prey would barely stand a chance fighting against them. Also if I were a rival Daedric prince, I probably wouldn't be happy if I saw another prince obtaining and holding onto more power and glory than I have, and therefore I might provide the people with a means of balancing the odds. Therefore Vampires who frequent the night would be working the Lunar Forge to make weapons against werewolves, and during the day werewolves would be making weapons against the vampires.

@sytun3375 Жыл бұрын

It's really great to see you uploading again :)

@jordanle94 Жыл бұрын

So insane about the spectral assassin even commenting on it, honestly it's impossible to know everything about this game. Best game ever made.

@pewpew1972 Жыл бұрын

Me over here: the dwarves are awfully quiet about this forge and also Zenithar...he's always mention around Kyne. And that a lot of merchants,miners,blacksmith and etc associates with him. Plus, He's kind of the blacksmith of the Aedra.

@crisper1614 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoying your videos as I’ve just rediscovered Skyrim after many years. And finding a KZfaqr making new content is refreshing. Thanks!

@seanwhitehall4652 Жыл бұрын

I was sad when Euroland Greymane died in my play though. Came for smithing training one day and he was gone. Warmaiden lady Adrianne Avenicci confirmed it.

@kingt0295 Жыл бұрын

She got rid of competition

@PlayerFORgamev Жыл бұрын

How did he die 😂 Dragon got him or what

@unoriginalhazard Жыл бұрын

@@PlayerFORgamevmore than likely it was a dragon, it’s rare for a NPC that only stays within one city to die by any other means lol

@maxinac Жыл бұрын

@@PlayerFORgamev does he only die after you lift the curse? He did dedicate a good portion of his life to that... worried real hard about where he'd go when he'd die. Maybe he finally was just at peace, and let go.

@PlayerFORgamev Жыл бұрын

@@maxinac We are talking about Euroland Greymane not the Kodlak Harbinger ;D Dude from the Skyforge

@artesano58 Жыл бұрын

I loved the video and made lot of sense. I also loved the fact that you didn’t say “should I make a 1hr video about it?”. You just said “I am doing it and expect for it.” Like a real man!

@JustaThing Жыл бұрын

Been waiting for a chance to watch this all month It's always great when Nate gets time to make a video, miss ya

@xXWyTeBreaDXx Жыл бұрын

Man I love these lore videos you do. They are laid out so well I just can’t stop watching.

@treybrzezowski3259 Жыл бұрын

24:29 "Steel Gear" **Shows Iron Mace** Also the Lunar enchantment does NOT drain health, the enchantment description explains that it BURNS targets. I think the "Vampire-like" thing from the book was a part of the enchantment that Bethesda intended to add, but having a Drain Health enchantment available that early to the player would've been unbalanced, so we got a modified Fire damage enchantment.

@ModdingNewbie Жыл бұрын

There is also the "X of the Vampire" category of Drain Health enchantments that I've only seen accessible through developer console commands... I wonder if these are accessible in the normal game eventually.

@treybrzezowski3259 Жыл бұрын

@@ModdingNewbie You mean the Standard Drain Health Enchant? Because any weapon with a Drain Health enchantment that you find (aside from the Blade of Woe) will be labeled "Weapon of the Vampire"

@ModdingNewbie Жыл бұрын

@@treybrzezowski3259 Except that these were stronger than any I've discovered personally in the course of all my _Skyrim_ playthroughs...!

@gh0stp3ppergaming23 Жыл бұрын

I missed your content so much when you took a break I’m so happy to see you uploading again. Can’t explain the joy of seeing these notifications!

@JoshSweetvale 3 ай бұрын

Couple of Atmora details: It's speculated that Ysgramor brought _dragons._ It's also been speculated that without dragons, Atmora froze not just in ice, but froze in time, because Dragons _are_ Time.

@rezamehraein1583 Жыл бұрын

Hey Nate. You were absent for rather a long time but came back as an absolute beast. Your efforts are appriciated pal.

@prestonc9059 Жыл бұрын

As much as I love the iceberg vids, it's nice to see a new shorter video Edit typo

@salineaddict9850 Жыл бұрын

A short Nate video is 3x longer than a normal video from any other creator I watch😂

@ashlynharrison3170 Жыл бұрын

Love to see this one is trending!! Thank you for this content, I love learning about this game!

@VotEtoPizdets Жыл бұрын

As usual, i wish i could like this video more than once. This deserves something special. Welcome back from your Hiatus. Weve been patiently waiting for this video to drop. You never disappoint, my friend.

@equesdeventusoccasus Жыл бұрын

Skyforge is a very interesting topic and I definitely would like to hear more about it. On a side note, I am really enjoying your longer more in-depth videos.

@jamesmayle3787 Жыл бұрын

@fraggelofthewastes Жыл бұрын

Awesome video, Nate! I'm absolutely down to watch a vid on the preMan/Mer gods!

@shanerodgers234 Жыл бұрын

I am loving all this lore you have been filling in so many gaps for me I've been left wondering about for years. Absolute great content sir

@ishytamephoenix Жыл бұрын

I've been missing these videos so much man glad your back!

@mayanightstar Жыл бұрын

We need more lore on the Ehlnofey, for some reason "Wandering Ehlnofey" made me think of Ma'ik the Lair. This guy still needs a real explanation.

@arawn1061 Жыл бұрын

The one true god

@jenaechillasf Жыл бұрын

Started back playing Skyrim a couple days ago after coming across this channel. Keep up the good work 😊

@CapCityMover Жыл бұрын

Ah man. I wish I had time to go back and play. I had such good memories spending hours on this masterpiece.

@Hvn1957 Жыл бұрын

Nicely done! It makes total sense, and opens up even more paths for role playing! Thank you.

@bobbybowen1448 Жыл бұрын

Man I love these videos, i watch them on my drive home from work and the long ones are definitely the best! Great content man

@SallyWPM Жыл бұрын

Feels amazing tobe here and alive listening to your Epic voice once Again! ^_^ 😄🤩🥰😤

@samtaylor7762 Жыл бұрын

Nate, that was a great video! The Lunar Forge may need to be used during a full-moon to get the enchantment applied to the weapons. I'll have to test the theory.

@bdizzle3014 Жыл бұрын

I was always bummed that they didn't do something with that. I think it would have been so awesome to have each forge add a different enhancement specific to either weapon or traits. The Lunar Forge could add a magic ability only active during a full moon and even more magical during a blood moon. Ahhh, could've been real cool.

@payableondeath7 Жыл бұрын

I love this channel. Listening to you break down Elder Scrolls lore is mesmerizing to me, even though I have only ever played and beaten Skyrim.

@kevinmancebo3762 Жыл бұрын

Hey man I just recently started watching your videos and I’m actually really hooked it’s so interesting how you break down all these mysteries and secret things! I would love to see more Fallout 4 content if there is any you haven’t already covered 👍🏽

@jakemelliot Жыл бұрын

There are so many other subtle and 'prophetic' references to the skyforge then just the hawk. I saw the hawk connection ages ago and knew it was Kynareth for more than multiple reasons that this video missed. But also, consider Kynareth's temple and the districts: 'Sky District' and 'Cloud District'. Consider that it was Kynareth that gave man the thu'um, the voice of the dragon. And in Whiterun legend, Numinex was held as Olaf One-Eye's 'pet' in the area known as 'dragonsreach'. The heart of Skyrim is the domain of Kynareth - and I thought it was brilliant how the first dragon decided to target Kynareth's domain to unlock the dragonborne's thu'um and to reveal dragonborne's idenitty first in Kynareth's domain (Whiterun). It only makes sense that it is Kynareth's skyforge to also assist the dragonborne early on in the game, as she is the one who created the dragonborne. Not to mention that when the dragonborne enters Whiterun after their identity is revealed, the greyboards shout to summon the dragonborne to the 'throat of the world'.

@jakemelliot Жыл бұрын

Just reread my comment. The tone sounded a little rude. That was not my intention. Apologies if it came across that way. Thought it was a fantastic video! So glad that the underforge and lunar forge were mentioned in honour of Kynareth's partner. Is there any chance that the lunar forge used to be Hircine's forge, built by some of the companions (who would operate outside of Whiterune) later assimilated into white run after the underforge was built? And has anyone tried using the lunar forge as werewolf (maybe vampire) to create lunar materials?

@SorcererKing94 Жыл бұрын

@@jakemelliot The moons have always been associated to Lorkhan's sundered body parts, so I don't see the Hircine connection with the Lunar forge. Also the Companions took up the Pact with Hircine just a couple hundred years ago where as the structure around the Lunar forge looks like it was built in Merethic era.

@jakemelliot Жыл бұрын

@@SorcererKing94 I am aware of Lorkhan's background - but I still see a strong connection. I am aware of the pact, but the connection was more again to Kyraneth as 'Mother of Men and beasts' in that aspect of her ability to give life and 'kiss at the end' of life while Hircine was the combining of the two and emodying the hunt. One kiss leads to sovngarde, (but her 'kiss' can also send people to Hircine's eternal hunting grounds). So while she is the widow of Lorkhan, Hircine and herself have a very good lunar connections to Lorkhan. So the skyforge, underforge and lunar forge make sense as both deities are linked to Lorkhan and the cycles of the wilderness, Kyraneth preserving the life of the wild, Hircine destroying the life of the wild but having.

@SorcererKing94 Жыл бұрын

@@jakemelliot I see your point, but it just comes across as Kyne and Hircine being rivals, but at the same time being inheritor(Kyne as she took after Shor as chief of a pantheon) and usurper(Hircine as he "stole" the mantle of Lorkhan's domain) of Lorkhan's legacy.

@arifhossain9751 Жыл бұрын

The statue looks more like an Eagle than a Hawk to many people, including me. The Eagle is a representation of Auri-el, the older version of Auriel/Akatosh. AND Daedra were not distinct from Aedra back in ancient times. So im pretty sure ancient Auri-el and Hircine worshippers wouldnt be in conflict with each other.

@JoshSweetvale 3 ай бұрын

If it's _older than the Elves_ and they didn't mess with it, it can only be a Dawn Era artefact.

@CPC-uz7cb Жыл бұрын

Love the videos. Thank you Man, with the wealth of videos you’ve made and all the game knowledge you have along with all of the research you’ve done into the lore and game files, you could make a massive number of mods. Would be amazing to be able to further explore many of these mysteries you describe in your videos.

@dreamsagaofficial Жыл бұрын

Welcome back! Love this channel :)

@manz7860 Жыл бұрын

I wish there was a quest to side with the silver hand and wipe out the companions who have become corrupted by Hircine

@THESLICKNESSEDM Жыл бұрын

Every faction should have that option to join their enemy and destroy them

@killer-ll4pn Жыл бұрын

@@THESLICKNESSEDM yea

@Lyu-Phy Жыл бұрын

There is a mod for this, Long live Skyrim modding!

@manz7860 Жыл бұрын

@@Lyu-Phy majority of quest mods are bunk imo.

@D-Rock420 Жыл бұрын

@@manz7860 indeed. While I think mods for personal play are fine, it only effects your gameplay, have at it. It's the fkrs that do it online that made me stop doing online gaming.

@bjmaguire6269 Жыл бұрын

Interesting that Mer and Men both seems to worship the same Gods now. At least the High Elves do, hence the religious conflict in Skyrim. Given the hints that the Dark Elves tend to worship Diedra. I would say that indicates the High Elves and Dark Elves probably split from each other after the defeat of the ancestors of the Mer. With the High Elves adopting the Gods of the victors, and the Dark Elves remaining true to the Old Gods. Interesting to speculate. Thank you so much for another great thoughtful and thought provoking production!

@TheoRae8289 Жыл бұрын

Actually I think that's canon. The Dark Elves look the way they do because of Daedric tampering (IIRC it was a punishment for crossing Azura) and were originally High Elves.

@alphasword5541 Жыл бұрын

look up the Chimer. OR just play Morrowind.

@MotBot419 Жыл бұрын

Would you be able to a video on the visual mods you use in your videos? It’s nice seeing a game as old as Skyrim look so good

@poggerwhite Жыл бұрын

These long form videos are amazing. Love them!

@bopeton Жыл бұрын

Sometimes these things are tenuous or flakey but pretty sure you nailed this one, especially considering that bit from Songs of the Return.

@theoneandonlyMauser Жыл бұрын

Nate, for maybe another Unique Items video you should cover the Diadem of the Savant circlet, I never knew it existed until now, you can find it at the wood chopping block outside Froki's shack, it just a standard circlet but the enchantment is as far as I know unique with 'Spells in all schools of magic cost less magicka to cast.'

@prestonallen663 Жыл бұрын

Thats actually obtained from a place in the labyrinthian after a puzzle and a fight with a daedra who's carrying it but i have no idea lorewise how or why it exists there

@samdupre1731 Жыл бұрын

While it is supposed to be unique, you can get two of them, one in the end of Shalidor's Maze, and one outside of Froki's shack. The one outside of Froki's shack is supposed to be some other kind of diadem, but an error in the game's code causes the Diadem of the Savant to appear instead.