I think it would be really cool if the empire formed an alliance with the Maomer for the second great war.

If you guys are curious, there is a side lands mod project that has associations with Beyond Skyrim called Nirn Uncharted. Each team is making a place outside of Tamriel (not akavir) like Pyandonea, Esroniet, Systres and Pankor, and Alinor (alinor is currently on Hiatus). While the projects are still on their 2D and early 3D phases, I still want to send the word out.

Finally! A full genuine video on the Maormer! I’m playing a Maormer in a Skyrim DND right now and I’ve wanted a good Fudgemuppet video on them for so long! Thank you guys!

IMO, Elnofey are shapeless animal spirits that were formed to Elves. Hence why Khajiit and Bosmer came from the same spirit type of south-west Tamriel and why someone might think Khajiit came from "elf stock" but, technically the khajiit were created before bosmer were even pointy eared people because they became elves AFTER Yffre was gifted the ability to give them a permanent shape from Nirni as she was convinced that Azura tricked her by making the Khajiit from her "children".

No doubt my favorite unplayable race. Being firstly exposed to the Sea Elves in ESO and seeing them cast Weather Magic was so damn cool. I wasn't expecting to be taken aback after learning more about yet another elusive group of people, i thought i heard it all when learning about the Dwemer and the Akavir. This series' universe is absurd

I really hope the Maomer are playable in the next Elder scrolls. I wanna be a pretty sea elf so bad

I didn't realize the sea elves' existence until I played the Sirenroot mod, I hope we can see them in the next game.

King orgnum sounds like a sea dragon and uses unique shouts to forge his magics it would explain why he is immortal and has an affinity for strange unique magics

Independent Skyrim with the voice allies with sword singer Hammerfell and the sea elves with crazy wild hunt, cannibalistic wood elves to take on the thalmor and save the world.. I can see it.

Looking at the timestamps, you mention a “weird theory” and later “Satakal.” Are you suggesting the Maomer were the left handed elves and they’re “slightly under water” nation is actually the sunken nation?

I often wondered if the reason the Empire became an enemy of the Maormer was because they conquered the Summer Set Isles, or was it because the Maormer attacked anyone indiscriminately?

I find the Maomer to be super interesting, and I hope we get to see some of them in TESVI. I doubt they will be a playable race, given how isolationist they are and how little info about them is concrete, but I'd be happy enough to see them as NPCs. To encounter them riding their sea serpents would be pretty cool. Hopefully, they wouldn't all be hostile, but some would be willing to converse.

Regarding the idea that looking the most like the ancestor is tied to being "closer" to the ancestor, may I just point out that a chihuahua or teacup poodle is exactly the same amount of related to wolves as any german shepherd or husky.

Would love to see them in ES6 this is the first I've heard of them and honestly they may have just made a spot as one of my favorites. Thanks for the info scott

We need a sea elf race in the next game, and we need a sea elf polymorph/skin in elder scrolls online! So much potential!

Heck yes, FudgeMuppet is back again. Can’t wait to hear more of the Maormer. Also gotta love Beyond Skyrim’s work. Masterpiece level indeed!

Well we do see the maromer quite a bit in eso and I bet we get an expansion based on them at some point

I seriously didn’t know that Beyond Skyrim: Cyrodiil would include Maormer!

What mod did you use for the non-ESO Maormer? Lost Races of Aetherius adds playable Maormer, along with Falmer, Dwemer, Ayleid, and Tsaesci. And the Maormer would be exactly the sort of wild card to undermine the Thalmor's attempts to conquer Tamriel. The Empire may be crumbling, but only a fool fights a war on two fronts. There could even be a plot/quest about finding and returning King Orgnum's Coffer so he can take on the Thalmor with his fleet directly (and the Thalmor are at a disadvantage due to not having either the Psijics or the Empire to help against the Maormer fleets)

Rather than Satakal being based on Orgnum, instead could Orgnum be mantling Satakal? (Like how Talos mantled Lorkhan)

Everything changed when the Water Nation attacked

We need more sea elf mods 🔥🔥🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

Currently doing a campaign of ES with my friends, I'm playing as a Maormer that picked them up after they washed ashore on Pyandonea. Gotta be my favorite mer.

I'd love to see the Maormer as a playable race in TESVI. I feel like in general they and the Reachmen (if Bethesda really decided to emphasize them as their own people) would be the easiest for playable race expansions. Also, is that thumbnail a modded Skyrim armor? It looks awesome!

I wonder how Pelinal Whitestrake would do with Maormer?

I am a Mer enjoyer, and the Maormer are among my favorite behind the Ayleids. They're so freaking badass.

Lore!!! Also I love how I got a Starfield ad before this video started lol

An actual thorough exploration of Maormer, thank you so much. I’ve always felt like I knew so much about them that couldn’t be found on the wiki, or in lore videos.

I like the idea that he appears younger at certain points in time because he shed his skin like a snake.

These art designs are beautiful.

KZfaq's at it again the bell is on all and yet no notifications of new videos

Great video. I quite like the Sea Elves/Maomer, having interacted with many in ESO, and this was insightful and informative.

Man now I gotta start a Maomer playthrough

Glad to see lore again on the channel

0:31 That glass armor on the high elf looks sick! I've never seen it before, is it from beyond skyrim?

Always excited to see new content from Scott. TY 🙏

Very interesting take on Satakal. I can see it being a lost piece of mythology. If the Maomer helped the Yokudans and learn of the sea to leave the island and their destruction. When a race makes exodus, a lot of their history and culture get left behind. Hammerfell is one of the most political provinces of Tamriel. I can easily seeing how some of the upper echelon would want to rewrite the narrative of a Mer helping them.

I like to imagine that the maomer have underwater cities like jar jar binks race

I remember reading a non- canon book called "Raid on Pyandonea" in the SHOTN mod for Morrowind. It has an interesting interpretation: King Orgnum is, in fact, a title - he gets killed near the beginning, and a new one rises up and takes the mantle. Orgnum also appears to be able to transform into a serpent and use his Sight the same way the Nords use Voice to manipulate the rules of nature.

What I'm wondering is how well serpent magic works on other reptiles. It would be quite a shock if the Maormer were to suddenly attempt to control Argonians or the like. The only issues I can think of that would make this more difficult would be the fact that Argonians are likely more intelligent than the sea serpents the Maormer regularly manipulate, thus making them more difficult to control, and the fact that the Hist already has a strong influence over the minds of the Argonians. Regardless, this does not seem like it would be the most absurd thing for the Maormer to attempt, given their great understanding of magic

Great video!

yess i hope we see more of the maormer and other non-tamriel races in the future!!!

Orgnum could be turning or have turned into a serpent like how Akaviri can become dragons.

mannn I'm still hoping that one day we get an Elder Scrolls game in one of these far away lands like Pyandonea, Akavir, maybe even some in the past in Yokuda and such

Build Idea: The Aquatic Arcanist, which serves as a self build and a champion of hermaeus mora, leaning into both the nautical aspects of hermaeus mora and using the new spell mods to create a skyrim version of eso's arcanist class

Interestingly enough, the cult of Diagna originated in Yokuda during the "Twenty Seven Snake Folk Slaughter". Diagna was also said to be the deity that was instrumental in the Redguards war and eventual victory over the Left Handed Elves and looking at how close Yokuda was to Pyandonea I doubt those "snake folk" were Tsaesci which leaves the Moamer being the race that fits that description of "snake folk" the most. So I do think its is likely that the Left Handed Elves were a offshoot of Moamer.

Amazing video as always guys!

Instantlike and comment, will definitely watch later

If Orgnum gets younger with time doesn't that mean that eventually he will become child and thus less powerful, than he used to be? Perhaps his best chance to defeat Altmer was early on, when he was old and wise. I do appreciate those Elder Scrolls myths where gods look like squabbling nobles, perhaps from a previous kalpa, who just became creators of the new kalpa and brought in all of they old grudges and aliances into the new world.

Maormer easily my fav Mer, I hope they become a bigger part of the Elder Scrolls in the future.

Honestly just love listening to your voice

Brah! Incredibly interesting take

Thank you for another awesome lore vid

Great, now I have an urge to install a sea elf race mod and start a new playthrough where I attack summerset using an army of sea elf followers

What graphics and character mods are you guys using? Looks gorgeous.

Maormer being the Aldmeri equivalent of the first fish to grow legs is not a theory I was prepared for 😂

The theory of Satakal being a corrupt memory of Orgnum from the period before the Ehlnofey War is a very fascinating one which I had not heard before, by the way. Very interesting speculation, even if the lack of additional texts to help build up a proper foundation for it makes it a bit tenuous.

Not gonna lie, if the Thalmor could, even if just for a moment, look past the prejudice (difficult to say the least), they would be wise to ally with the Maormer, just as they did in the 2nd Aldmeri Dominion, in order to bring an end to the Empire. It wasn't just Altmer, but also Maormer fleets that were decimated when the Numidium came and created a devastating cataclysmic event upon the Summerset Isles, and many Pyandonean ships were likely lost in the defense of Summerset's shores. If the Altmer could focus most of its power in its land assault, and let the Maormer handle the Fleet movements accordingly, they'd be able to give the Empire hell.

Hey man, love your content! When running around skyrim the other day, i found the Sleeping Tree Giant Camp, and was mesmerized by the glowing purple tree in dark evening. Have you done a video on this, or are you considering one?

Great makes me excited for elder scrolls 6

The preamble in the "A Weird Theory" section makes me quite happy. The Elder Scrolls community *indeed* is far too keen to listen to the very obvious ideological corruption and bias in Altmeri accounts of history, and it's good to see someone who is willing to acknowledge that we should be hesitant to take their accounts at face value. (Also, yes, I agree that the Falmer are most likely the most direct descendants of the Old Ehlnofey, culturally speaking, and likely actually inherited a lot of their pre-existing cities and magical artifacts, considering the myths seem to suggest the Ehlnofey Wars' final battles [or at least the most intense fighting] occurred along the Atmora-Skyrim border region, and that this is likely where Lorkhan fell in battle. It would be rather simple for the remnants of Auri-El and Trinimac's army to then settle down in those lands they had just fought a victorious war over-- though it will likely have been the case that this had to occur after a journey to the West in order to observe Convention, at least for some of the loyal followers, who will have wanted to follow their gods to the site of Adamantia after the battle, though obviously the "timing" of all of this is somewhat muddled by the nature of the Dawn.) Regarding your chart, though: I do not believe it is correct to actually have the Chimer diverging after the discovery of Summerset. The Velothi Exodus strikes me as much more likely to have occurred as a very early split off from Falmer society, just after they had settled in Skyrim under the leadership of Trinimac and Auri-El. The real issue is that, with Trinimac still being alive and being a leader of their people, and with the war having just been won against Lorkhan, there is no reasonable scenario where he actually ends up traveling with the proto-Altmer to Summerset, staying there for presumably thousands of years, during which the location of the original Aldmeri homeland (Tamriel) is lost to the people, only to be found by Topal the Pilot, triggering the Velothi to want to split off and take up a new cultural identity, pilgrim-style, and get chased by the living god across the continent, until some sort of confrontation presumably happens in Skyrim, considering the Orsimer spread across the Skyrim-High Rock-Hammerfell region and presumably would have had to have originated somewhere around there. No: especially given Topal the Pilot already reported Orsimer being in the Iliac Bay, no. The Chimer and Orsimer most likely emerged in extremely short order after the Merethic era began, both having come from Falmer populations that were the remnants of the Old Ehlnofey who still remained with their gods after the conclusion of Convention, while those earliest of ancestors still strode upon the face of Nirn. The Altmer stories simply appropriate history that they were not witness to, because they were too busy being stranded on an island chain that had most likely broken off of Tamriel during the Ehlnofey Wars. They may or may not have even sailed there to begin with, depending on whether they *actually* fled the Ehlnofey Wars as their history seems to suggest (fleeing the destruction of Aldmeris [Tamriel] as some great disaster [gods fighting and breaking off parts of the continent in a great cataclysm]), or they were simply left behind and are a remnant of the Old Ehlnofey army that got lost in the chaos of the grand scale destruction and warfare of the Dawn conflict.

I hope we’ll see these guys once elder scrolls VI is released

Amazing!!!😮 ⭐

If TES6 is in Hammerfell, I hope they make an appearance.

3:22 Pelinal Whitestrake really out here doing the science so we don't have to.

I just assumed all elves are the closest form to original elves as they reflect elven souls influenced by gods creation of Nirn. And that sea elves adapted to the sea, and high elves fucked with goblins of summerset. They’re all technically original eves in their purest form.

18:37 This is probably one of my favorite pieces of furniture that I achieved from scrying for a good long while due to its size and history connected to it.

Thank you for your content, it's my favourite media on KZfaq. Sky above, voice within.

Do the sea elves sell sea shells at the seashore?

Make them a playable race in TES6 Hammerfell is the perfect spot for it since you can meet plenty of them in that general area in ESO

What armor mod is that? You've made me want to create a Sea Elf build

The idea of a Maomer invasion as the threat we face in ES6 instead of some godly threat this time around really tickles me. King Orgnum is a mysterious, god-like character already so we wouldn't really need a greater threat.

Holy shit a new video

Have you guys made a Maormer build yet?

Fantastic choice of topic and such interesting visuals

it would be really cool if you did a vampiric dragon priest🧛🧛🐲

Imagine during the second great the maomer invade alinor when most of the dominion is pre occupied with the war

Unrelated but I was checking out theology and there is the concept Ariel/Auriel which means something similar to sons of lions... i wonder if auriel could be the true father/progenitor of the kajhit.

My favorite race!

Will you guys be playing the new baldurs gate? Seems up your alley

Orgnum's Coffer? Sounds like someone found a duplication glitch 😄 ...but then the Godhead patched it 😢

I've had my fingers crossed for a while, hoping that Zenimax gives us playable Maormer in ESO. In my opinion, they are the only race that would make any sense if they add a new playable race. They could give us a story tie in and let us go to Pyandonea. It would be awesome.

Favourite race Ngl.

The Muppets of Fudge speaks it into existence.

You know, listening to the Storm Magic section made something occur to me: It seems like it might be the case that the Maormer have some sort of interaction and possibly trade relation with the people of Akavir. In particular, I would guess that they probably have some sort of kindred relationship with the Saesci, and if I'm being honest, I think that would actually go a long way to explaining the failure of the invasion by Uriel Septim V against that people's lands. The unexplained, shocking changes to the weather that the snake men of Akavir greatly benefited from could be pretty easily answered by the Saesci having learned to do so via cultural exchange with the Maormer over time. That campaign seems to have seen weather manipulation occurring in a slightly different way than the people of Pyandonea tend to use it, but that makes some sense insofar as Akavir is a place which presumably has far more land territory than the Maormer's home; thus leading to innovations the sea elves wouldn't naturally come to, themselves.

26:26 Black Mesa in Hammerfell? lol

I hope we see them in the next elder scrolls and made a playable race

This was interesting, thank you! 😊 Any chance they are related to the Tsaesci, or learned some of the serpent magic from them?

Did anyone else notice the Black Mesa sign in that Redguard village around 26:24 minutes into the movie? Thats from the Halflife game right, whats it doing in elder scrolls? 😆 I doubt its very lore friendly but funny to spot though 🙂

The sea elves are probably my favorite TES elf race besides the dark elves. I’ll enjoy this video.

Now do the Sonmer!

Oof... 27:47 mark and my immersion in the Lore being told to me is Shattered by horrible clipping on the armor over those arms 😂

The Maormer really should be playable in 6. The last time we got new playable races was the orcs and Imperials, and that was all the way back in TES 3. Making them a playable race would simply offer so many new character opportunities, as well as developers a chance to explore how NPCs would react to a PC that is wholly alien.

Hot take: The "pure falmers" are actually aldmers And the "monstrified falmers" are the real snow elves with it's adaptation rushed by the dwemers. And the wispmother is the original form of the mer, so the dwemer were actually experimenting with rushing and reverting elven evolution with the powers of tonal magic and the heart of lorkhan.

Great video, Scott. The Maomer are quite fascinating. If your theory is proven to be true (and I truly hope it is, even if just a small part of it), then it looks like the Altmer will have some serious explaining to do. We know how the Maomer feel about the Altmer, but I am curious how they feel about the other Elven races, as well as the human ones....? I would love to see more about the Maormer - both in FudgeMuppet videos and in future TES games - as a playable race. They are right up there with the Snow Elves (tied), being my favorite races in the games. The Bosmer are a very close second favorite. Thanks for doing a video on the Maomer.

If they add saling to tes 6 a saling skill would fit a sea elf race well

Can you guys do a video on how developing up works in lore? Like I understand more magic means more spells or higher spells, and high skill means better attacks with a weapon. But how does health actually work?

Maybe random thought but it would be an interesting idea to make a video on how would Skyrim look realistically according to lore. I mean actual population/scale of region/towns etc and maybe some monuments/towns/settlements not included in the game. Would probably require a lot of work but really think it would be interesting to see. In any case keep up the good work!

Is Sulan Dres part 3 coming soon?

I hope one day they can go back to making fallout and Skyrim builds again