Gigguk: "Imagine dating an actual tsundere that would suck" Sydsnap who has made an entire career out of being a real life tsundere: "Yea you tell them babe"

The reason Connor hasn’t gotten into vtubers is because it’s all slice of life anime.

12:04 "who is the... IronMouse on Twitch?" From barely remembering her name to becoming incredibly close friends. What a development.

Cdawgva 5 months ago: "what's the deal with Vtubers" Cdawgva March 2021: collabing with ironmouse, Hololive Indonesia Ollie simping for Connor This is what you call anime character development arc.

_"It's like choosing your favorite genocide"_ - *Token Anime Antagonist Connor*

"If Dio's voice actor became a vtuber its all over" lol funny enough, Tomokazu Sugita (Gintoki/Joseph Joestar's voice actor) fell down the rabbit hole awhile ago and made his own vtuber channel because of that. His channel name is 杉田智和/AGRSチャンネル

Connor 1 year ago: “I watched Ironmouse, she’s funny.” Connor literally today: **cosplaying Ironmouse**

Connor 6 months ago: 12:00 Connor today: streams with Iron Mouse on a regular basis

Trash Taste is basically Joey and Gigguk going over takes on anything and Connor sitting there as the "change my mind" meme. Love the content guys. Keep it up!!

I look forward to this like I look forward to an anime episode

12:06 the foreshadowing of the trash traste cinematic universe is insane

12:06 little did he know that the legendary friendship will soon be forged

Trash Taste is my favorite 3D Slice of Life anime.

Genshin impact has basically consumed my life now but am still gonna make time stamps.Not sponsored 0:17 Intro (Host: Connor/BoiofCdawgvariety) -Hololive- 1:10 The bois getting into Hololive 5:52 What is a virtual youtuber? 8:40 Appeal of Hololive 12:24 Getting into Hololive is hard 16:27 Human aspect of vtubers -Difference between Streamers and Vtubers- 20:34 Streaming is kinda exhausting 22:42 Connor wants to know the vtuber paycut 26:32-28:12 Sponsorship (Skillshare) 28:13 Profits in being a vtuber 33:45 Favourite Vtubers (34:00 Hentiman and GiggUK gushing over doggos) 36:52 Watching streamers starting out 41:27 The deep end with waifu culture 47:50 Waifu’s shouldn’t be real 54:32 Vtubers got it right 56:04-59:02 Another Sponsor (Ejanime) 59:03 Future of Vtubers -Anime they watched- 1:02:26 Garnt watched Dorohedoro 1:05:56 What was missing in Dorohedoro 1:09:52 Read the manga,peasants 1:11:34 Hype ruins the anime experience 1:14:07 Opinions on Demon Slayer 1:17:46 Thoughts on My Hero Academia 1:20:33 What could’ve made MHA great 1:24:32 Shows running for 10+ years 1:28:07-1:30:51 3rd sponsorship (ExpressVPN) -Re Zero- 1:30:51 They finally talked about Re Zero S2 1:35:31 Moneybrain simping for Rem 1:38:50 Beatriz rant -Anime and Manga talk- 1:42:33 Anime recommendations with Connor 1:45:16 They remade Detective Conan 1:47:46 Records of Ragnarok Manga 1:52:49 Eyeshield 21 Manga 1:54:31 Black people are op in Eyeshield 21 -Outro- 1:57:50 Patreon,Twitter,Subreddit 1:58:54 End Thank you for your patience,I am going back to farm primogems for Venti,Take care Big PP nation

0:17 Intro (Host: Connor/BoiofCdawgvariety) -Hololive- 1:10 The bois getting into Hololive 5:52 What is a virtual youtuber? 8:40 Appeal of Hololive 12:24 Getting into Hololive is hard 16:27 Human aspect of vtubers -Difference between Streamers and Vtubers- 20:34 Streaming is kinda exhausting 22:42 Connor wants to know the vtuber paycut 26:32-28:12 Sponsorship (Skillshare) 28:13 Profits in being a vtuber 33:45 Favourite Vtubers (34:00 Hentiman and GiggUK gushing over doggos) 36:52 Watching streamers starting out 41:27 The deep end with waifu culture 47:50 Waifu’s shouldn’t be real 54:32 Vtubers got it right 56:04-59:02 Another Sponsor (Ejanime) 59:03 Future of Vtubers -Anime they watched- 1:02:26 Garnt watched Dorohedoro 1:05:56 What was missing in Dorohedoro 1:09:52 Read the manga,peasants 1:11:34 Hype ruins the anime experience 1:14:07 Opinions on Demon Slayer 1:17:46 Thoughts on My Hero Academia 1:20:33 What could’ve made MHA great 1:24:32 Shows running for 10+ years 1:28:07-1:30:51 3rd sponsorship (ExpressVPN) -Re Zero- 1:30:51 They finally talked about Re Zero S2 1:35:31 Moneybrain simping for Rem 1:38:50 Beatriz rant -Anime and Manga talk- 1:42:33 Anime recommendations with Connor 1:45:16 They remade Detective Conan 1:47:46 Records of Ragnarok Manga 1:52:49 Eyeshield 21 Manga 1:54:31 Black people are op in Eyeshield 21 -Outro- 1:57:50 Patreon,Twitter,Subreddit 1:58:54 End

Connor 6 months ago: 12:00 ironmouse seems fun Connor now: made ironmouse a tsundere

"Just wait till Dio's voice becomes a v-tuber" This man just called love is war season 4/5

connor: " If Dio´s VA becomes a V tuber its all over, and than im gonna simp" Papa Shirogane in the distance, "moshimosh connor san, papa miyuki des"

In a few days, Bubi will be debuting. It has gone full circle.

This episode just hits different now.

The fact that Connor is slowly becoming the most sane person on this podcast is making me worry.

Have to admit, after Gigguks last video I too have fallen down the vtuber rabbit hole.

2020 Connor: " 2 hours of streaming and I start losing my energy..." 2022: " 7 hours of Pogostuck"

That thumbnail do be hittin' different now

This whole episode is just Joey and Garnt is trying to recruit Connor into the vtuber cult

"You cant simp if they dont exist" Tell that to the guys that tried to legally marry an anime character

It's so crazy to see how things have changed since this. Garnt and Joey have become semi-regular streamers. Connor is a massive streamer who, despite saying back then that he'd get tired after 2 hours of streaming, will now often go for 7, 10, 12 hours, and 2 hours is a very short stream by his standards. Hololive EN are MASSIVE. VShojo is now a thing (this was released a few months before VShojo). Connor, who'd occasionally watch Mouse and thought she was "very funny", is very close friends with her and a frequent, almost always guaranteed collaborator. All three are also acquainted or friends with many, many VTubers, who they either knew before they became VTubers, or met through friends. Also, Connor and Sydney are totally not VTubers, *wink*. Crazy stuff. Connor: "I need a VTuber who SCREAMS." Tenma Maemi, Pipkin Pippa (many more others, obviously): "Allow us to ontroduce ourselves."

I saw the title and watched like 20 mins of the podcast and then decided to do "research" and literally spent 2 whole days just watching vtubers Now I'm back and I can relate with everything.

Trash taste: Doing 2 hrs of stream is awfuly exausting. Korone: *does a 12 hr stream of an old platformer game*: No confidence!

Gigguk: 2 hours of streaming it my limit. Korone: Staff wont let me stream for more than 24 hours.

Seeing Coco in the thumbnail nowadays just hits different, man...

“Who was it? Iron mouse, yeah she’s funny” that’s some foreshadowing

If any of the Trash Taste fellas are reading this, THANK YOU for making my Fridays so much more enjoyable. I can't stop laughing at some of the discussions you bring up. The entire MHA rant was hilarious (and I say this as someone who enjoys the show), the Re:Zero bit where Connor forgets why he loves REM but is her loyal knight had me cracking up! I'm disappointed in Garnt's lack of fulfillment for Dorohedoro because I truly think it was a hidden gem of a show this year but nevertheless keep up the great work as always. Please for the love of god PLEASE when Trash Taste concludes in 8-10 years, don't suck like the final season of Game of Thrones.

Cannur in this video: what the heck is vtubing Cannur today: *is a vtuber playing Hades*

I've been on a journey of catching up on every trash taste episode and its been an experience, up to here now and hearing conner say "Who is that vtuber, Oh ironmouse, yea I think she's cool" is so goddamn funny Can't wait for the rest of the info I have from the future to pop up through this

Gigguk: "I cant stream more than 2 hours, thats my limit" Inugami Korone: "You are weak, mortal"

"My favorite vtubers are Asacoco and Nekomata Korone" - Joey 2020

Now that Connor hangs out with so many VTubers this episode hits different

12:05 THE FORESHADOWING

“It wasn’t that good” Joey you were literally one of the people who had Megalobox as anime of the year the heck

Ain’t gonna lie, that wrestling analogy was so damn accurate.

The reason why I love podcasts it's that it changes subjects so quickly, they were talking about vtubers then they started talking about anime and jesus references and then suddenly boom. PORN

It makes sense now why Connar hangs out with Ollie, she can just deafen him like Tyler One.

"if dio's voice actor becomes a vtuber" kaguya-sama manga readers: well... you see....

So we got the Re: Zero talk. Up next, explaining the Fate timeline.

I haven't seen this episode since just after the first Calli one. It's crazy to compare Connor's opinion on VTubers then with his now weekly collabs with Ironmouse.

After hearing Connor's thoughts on vtubers...TELL HIM ABOUT HOLOSTARS

Joey: Inugami Korone A few seconds later... Also Joey: Nekomata Korone Even Joey supports Okakoro unknowingly.

"I did what every good white man does: I watched the brown man do it." I almost spat out my drink

Connor in 2020: Doesn't know what a vtuber is ＣＡＮＮＵＲ in 2021: Has his own avatar, collabs with multiple vtubers and has even more reverse-simping for him

1 year ago Connor: "it's not like I'm going to simp." January 2020 Connor: " I gotta win this figure for Mouse."

KZfaq: TIME TO DEMONETIZE 3 sponsorships: Allow us to introduce ourselves

40:09 Oh hey! That's me! I'm glad Gigguk enjoys Haachama's degenerate content. I hope everyone falls even deeper into this VTuber Rabbit hole.

12:04 - Connor admits he likes Ironmouse

Grant: imagine having a real life tsundere. Connor can relate all too well to that now.

Here's an attempt at a PhD essay on why vtubers. For the record, I have no attachment to Japan's idol industry, and absolutely hate the shady elements about it. Nor did I ever fall into gacha games and waifu collecting, or simping for live streamers under any circumstance. Hell, I didn't even care for any live streamers, even if they had a KZfaq presence and I enjoyed their content. At most I'll catch what they upload later, but wouldn't go out of my way to catch their Twitch streams. And strangest of all, I don't actually like the cute girls doing cute things genre. I tolerated some Kyoani productions because of the quality, but they were never my favorites and I didn't really care for the characters and their antics. And despite all of that, I fell down this rabbit hole. Vtubers, and Hololive in particular, have so much going on beyond cute and funny antics. I started out watching Fubuki's acapella songs like her Scatman cover, and tumbled my way into Korone's orbit pretty quickly. But no matter who I find, I can't help but respect the work they put in for their characters. They've trained their voices really well, practiced a lot with their Live2D models, and put in a lot of obvious effort to play up their quirks and exaggerated personalities. I love the anonymity of it, where they've managed to keep this strict separation of offline and online lives that I've frankly missed ever since the rise of social media. It feels like going back to the good old days of hacker screen names and cyberspace, where our online personas didn't have to be built on top of our real world identities. So while we miss out on some of the human experience seeing a live streamer's real face, home, and public persona (obviously distinct from their actual selves of course), we gain something else: an abstracted ideal that both the vtuber and the audience can collaborate together on developing. To an extent, a normal streamer does the same, changing their performance to suit their audience. But to take it as far as what a vtuber does would quickly fall into an uncanny valley of parasocial relationships. It's similar to how older message boards had users who would project themselves through their posts and activities, but the distance between the user and their account allows them to give up some of that characterization to other posters (and their personas). It's a kind of collaborative and public performance where the audience isn't just a passive observer of the art but actively shaping the narrative. It reminds me of the vibrancy you see in an 'open source' community, like Touhou or Vocaloid, where the community can participate in the process in ways that a corporate packaged product doesn't allow for. And I recognize that nostalgic feeling when watching a Hololive stream. With their anime avatars and voice acting combined with cues and reactions to their chat, the girls are basically acting out an anime. But rather than watching a production piece where a team of writers, actors, artists, musicians, and directors created something static for us to consume passively, the Hololive audience are active participants playing the role of directors, background characters, and producers. We're invited to react, comment on, and even subvert the animation and voice acting of the Hololive talent. The medium, too, opens up certain possibilities that a live streamer would find really hard to pull off, such as manipulating their avatars to interact with objects and backgrounds pulled out of thin air on a whim. Like with anime itself, some things are easier to do and show with animation than with a live person on camera. There's also something to be said about their subversiveness, too. A vtuber is in some ways a rejection of the overly produced, KZfaq algorithm approved, ad-driven content. There's no obstrusive ad pitch, and no indirect acknowledgement of having to go off-site to financially support them. We see something we like, we donate, and they see it and respond. And while KZfaq and Cover Corp. take their cut, they're not intruding on this illusion, almost like the girls are live on stage and we're literally throwing money at their feet whenever we feel like it. The old way would be like if we weren't allowed to do that, and instead were told to buy some random thing during intermissions with the understanding that this 3rd party will be paying the talent. Or if we were having to make a mental note to drive down to the bank after the show and write a check for the talent. The act and the personalized validation of the act are noticeably separate, while the Hololive model essentially erases it from sight and mind. And finally, it's nice to see the concept of the idol turned on its head as the girls start swearing, screaming, and otherwise toying with their titles as they get real about their weird lives, tastes, and otaku habits. In some way, they're more idol-like than actual idols, as they can have a somewhat normal offline life and come back as their characters whenever they want. And they don't need to elevate themselves towards an obsessively unobtainable level of human perfection at all times. Their avatars are cute and expressive and essentially perfect already, meaning they get to relax and humanize the idealized anime avatar with their own personality, rather than suppress it in order to live and breath the physical perfection of a real-world idol.

"If Dio's voice actor becomes a v-tuber" So I guess Connor can't wait for Kaguya-sama season 3 / 4?

The thumbnail has now come full circle.

The moment they talked about Eyeshield 21, I had a surge of childhood nostalgia and memories coming back to me and remembering when I rushed back home after school to watch Eyeshield 21 on TV and occasionally borrowing a few E21 manga volumes at my nearby library. Good times

If the day comes that they have a Vtuber as a guest on the podcast, I will print this comment out and eat it.

“This episode of Trash Taste is brought to you by... Hololive”

It’s actually crazy how Connor starts here at the top of the rabbit hole and in recent weeks how it’s become. Garnt is like the frigging prophet in this episode. Not just Connor fell into the rabbit hole but thanks to being a streamer, anituber, voice actor and I’m guessing because he is single can actually collab with vtubers like iron mouse. Watching him for instance ghost hunt on phasmopobia with his irl anime waifu just actual peak content. There was a moment where he got pro gamer on a ghost and tells mouse who is In character but genuinely scared of the ghost to get behind him full Chad anime protagonist mode. The vtuber character, the anime waifu Rp, connors’ streaming and content instincts and chat and the game come together to prove this is kind of a unique blend of content. Connor then proceeds to bait the ghost, get killed and mouse is absolutely bricking it Runs off to the ghost hunter van as chat submits a redeem to play the jojo theme to as the background music.

Thanks to Deniz 0:17 Intro (Host: Connor/BoiofCdawgvariety) -Hololive- 1:10 The bois getting into Hololive 5:52 What is a virtual youtuber? 8:40 Appeal of Hololive 12:24 Getting into Hololive is hard 16:27 Human aspect of vtubers -Difference between Streamers and Vtubers- 20:34 Streaming is kinda exhausting 22:42 Connor wants to know the vtuber paycut 26:32-28:12 Sponsorship (Skillshare) 28:13 Profits in being a vtuber 33:45 Favourite Vtubers (34:00 Hentiman and GiggUK gushing over doggos) 36:52 Watching streamers starting out 41:27 The deep end with waifu culture 47:50 Waifu’s shouldn’t be real 54:32 Vtubers got it right 56:04-59:02 Another Sponsor (Ejanime) 59:03 Future of Vtubers -Anime they watched- 1:02:26 Garnt watched Dorohedoro 1:05:56 What was missing in Dorohedoro 1:09:52 Read the manga,peasants 1:11:34 Hype ruins the anime experience 1:14:07 Opinions on Demon Slayer 1:17:46 Thoughts on My Hero Academia 1:20:33 What could’ve made MHA great 1:24:32 Shows running for 10+ years 1:28:07-1:30:51 3rd sponsorship (ExpressVPN) -Re Zero- 1:30:51 They finally talked about Re Zero S2 1:35:31 Moneybrain simping for Rem 1:38:50 Beatriz rant -Anime and Manga talk- 1:42:33 Anime recommendations with Connor 1:45:16 They remade Detective Conan 1:47:46 Records of Ragnarok Manga 1:52:49 Eyeshield 21 Manga 1:54:31 Black people are op in Eyeshield 21 -Outro- 1:57:50 Patreon,Twitter,Subreddit 1:58:54 End

Connor has become the straight man surrounded by wackos.

No one talked about Pikamee. She is genuinely such a fun VTuber, speaking both English and Japanese in her stream, to keep both audiences updated, which makes it very accessible to those who don't speak Japanese.

5 months later connur be building his vtuber harem

After watching the newest podcasts and now going back to watch old ones and hearing all the lil bits of anime talking and the Re; Zero talk that happens in all these eps, I'll now have to go back and give this anime a shot again. Trash taste guys keep it up watching the old podcasts, there all great even if there 2 years old.

Joey and Garnt: how can u not simp over cute anime girls streaming?? Connor: lol idk Also Connor: but if these specific MEN became vtubers-

Garnt says to Milf-loving Connor; "That's why you like master piece don't you" I see, so Connor is truly a man of culture...

Listening to every podcast on Spotify got to this episode, paused my Spotify podcast to see the comments on the friendship between Connor and Mouse! It's actually insane

12:05 and that kids, is how to meet your best friend.

Here's a secret; Every single My hero episode has flashbacks.

“i did what every white man does, watch the brown man” AS A BROWN GIRL THAT HAD ME DYIN LMAO IM HOPING TO G O D HE DOESNT GET CANCELLED 😭 CUZ THAT WAS SO FUNNY

So this was the beginning of the Cdawg ironmouse saga that still continues today

16:28 This is why Korone really does it for me. When she breaks the 'yubi yubi piki piki piman' character, you see a crazy good person. She's so damn wholesome, even when she's angry or sad; in character or out of it.

I think the biggest thing that separates Vtubers from a gimmick is that character that they play/their lore. There's some vtubers that are like that, and others that are essentially just streamers but wih an anime face and I don't think the second type are the ones to really blow up. Even Melody plays a character and she was a literal cam girl. It's not like they stay in character all the time, but it's the difference between them being just a normal, boring human and a character that you can actually interact with and learn about by watching their streams. I honestly just really enjoy the character breaks because I think the VA/youtuber side of things is pretty fascinating. Hololive in particular is great at this because they prep all their vtubers with art, backstories and collabs from moment 1 so that you have all these interwoven stories happening at the same time with the backing of a huge audience already there and ready to watch. Now if only Hololive was actually decent at protecting their talent and not kissing the boots of nutters from china

Dio’s VA plays Shirogane’s dad in Love is War and in the manga he becomes a KZfaqr, so Connor may get what he wants

I have come back to thank this episode specifically for introducing me to vtubers. Thanks to this, I have found Ojou and have a steady supply of Nakirium and giggles that bring much joy.

This is the only time I don't skip the ad read because damn, it's a whole experience in this podcast

I feel like Connor might like Holostars a little better. There’s one guy Roberu who screams a lot but in a fun, entertaining way lol and then Shien Ch who starts to sound like a JoJo character when he’s raging at certain games. But either way the Holostars need more love lol

Joey : Megalo box wasn't "that" good. Also Joey : Gives Megalo box anime of the year 2018

Garnt and Joey's description of falling into the Vtuber hole is literally what happened to me. I watched one compilation video and now I'm stuck here.

In time people will see this thumbnail and ask, what Vtuber is that?

this is gonna be JoJo all over again. Conner isnt sure at first then next week he suddenly becomes the very annoying non stop vtuber meme dispenser

0 seconds in Gigguk: Who’s your best girl? Me: We don’t do that here Gigguk: Who’s your waifu? Me: No you don’t understa- Gigguk: Who?! Me: Yagoo

it makes me happy that they talked about records of ragnorak. It deserves more love

I love how excited they get during sponsor announcements

"Record of Ragnarok is just Fate combined with Baki" Ok, now I absolutely _have_ to read it.

lawl, like 70% of the Hololive members have completely thrown their character lore aside and are now just being themselves, which is great. The "lore" is still there and if asked questions about things like age and occupation they will often answer with whatever their character's story is, but other than that, majority are just being themselves. Watching them reacting to their debut streams is hilarious lol. Matsuri's especially.

I can’t believe it’s been a month since it was out xD I feel like I JUST got this notification xD DONT STOP POSTING

ever trash taste episode is the only arc i need

Falling down in the rabbit hole PEKO HA⬆️HA⬇️HA↗️HA↘️HA➡️

Timestamps: (still working on it, will finish later, have to sleep now) 0:00 Preintro 0:17 Intro 1:10 Hololive & How the boys got into Vtuber 5:52 Vtuber 101 8:47 Is it just a gimmick? 12:24 Gigguk got an email from a extreme Vtuber fan & the rabbit hole 22:44 Vtuber contracts 26:32-28:12 Ad 28:13 Vtubing as a career 31:42 Pokimane and streaming is mainstream now 33:44 Favourite vtubers? 41:26 Vtuber,Waifu and Idol culture 56:04 - 59:02 Ad 1:02:39 Dorohedoro/Beastars/Megalo Box

12:03 oh is this where it started

Connor: Nobody actually CRIES over the anime characters half of tiktok: haha no.....

Three sponsors!? The bois are moving up in the world. Damn.

I feel like Connor has to check out Holostars. It's our best chance at dragging monkey brain into the rabbit hole.

Rewatching this now really foreseen so much happening with vtuber now. The fact that both Calli & Kson been on the show as guest speak alot about the grow in the industry.

Not gonna lie, I couldn't take my eyes off of that Megumin figure the whole stream.

They should do an episode where all their girlfriends come one. Or hell have the girls host an episode. Itd be interesting.