Great video as always, definitely prefer the VFC for it's reliability. The real question is, when are you gonna design and release the ultimate GBBR with Novritsch? You know we will all buy it instantly if it's designed by you

@@FallDxvdbl I'm fighting for it every day. We need more capacities first. The bad thing is that when we do make it people will say I'm biased and I won't be allowed to have an opinion anymore just like the AAP-01 video :D

@@JosefMucha100 Hopefully you get it some day, I know you'd make the best GBBR you can, don't listen to the haters, we're all here cause we actually want to know your opinion and your expertise with GBBRs, those people are always gonna say you're biased, you can't win with them

MWS

the people complaining about you being biased are just giving their opinion so you should be able to do the same thing

Not particularly. He's spreading... a lot of misinformation.

@@ValaskaErgonomic exactly

​@@ValaskaErgonomic elaborate

And Viper Tech

I think they're just comparing between Taiwan made GBBs

100 bucks is fine... even beeing Team TM I would have bought this WE too... just for fun and to get more experience in the world of GBBRs

the WE M4 was my first GBBR

I have a new WE m4 that I just used for the first time at Fulda Gap this past weekend. There is already a lot of damage to the bolt carrier and the bolt hold open is already broken. Very poor quality metals used.

I bought one earlier this year. After about 2000 BBs thorough it, the gun won't cycle. The trigger causes a release of gas but the bolt doesn't move and the BB doesn't leave the barrel. Tried lubricating everything but no change. Any ideas? Tried it with multiple mags, didn't make a difference.

yeah I completely forgot about that one. I've tried it before and it seemed like a quite complex system. It does shoot well but I just didn't feel attracted to it mostly because it looked like a nightmare to repair. Can you expand on this please? I'm curious to hear your opinion.

Yes, the MWS is typical Japanese ‘over engineering’, meaning it’ll run like it’s designed to do for a very long time. It took TM a while to develop and release their take on a GBBR AR, and I do not think they have compromised on what their core design goals were. Yes the trigger is a little mushy, but lots of real steel triggers can be mushy, and I quickly got used to the MWS. The build quality feels Japanese, the way it operates feels Japanese, and the price feels Japanese (not too expensive, not too cheap) - it’s like the Toyota of GBBR’s. My Devilhunter modded GHK AK74 is great fun, but it doesn’t have the panel gap, paintwork, gear change or long service gap schedule of my MWS. Why would I buy a Zongshen or Hyundai when I can get the QC of Yamaha or Honda? My GHK cost about the same as my MWS, but I had to take it apart and rebuild it properly myself before I could use it. The MWS just works out of the box, and takes a licking and keeps on ticking...

​@@JosefMucha100 Not much to repair on the MWS, to be honest. The trigger box is more complex than a more traditional AR-15 style you see on other platforms, but it's rock solid reliable, which means you will never have to get in there to repair anything, and it is a huge part of why the system is gas-efficient and able to run reliably on HFC-134a and weaker gases here in Japan (which is moving away from 134a in exchange for slightly weaker gases that have several times less greenhouse effect). The parts most likely to fail are as follows: - recoil buffer (on green gas, this plastic and spring-loaded part has a tendency to break due to the increased rearward force of the bolt, realistically it should be made of a more shock-resistant nylon polymer) - bolt catch lever (not so much a failure as a timing issue caused by using stronger gas than HFC-134a in warm weather, and experienced by the TM GBB MP7 as well -- sometimes last round hold-open function doesn't work due to the faster cycling under higher pressure. This can be remedied easily in several ways such as unscrewing the buffer tube by 1 turn, which indicates the timing is off by just a smidge, alternatively by using a heavier aftermarket recoil buffer to slow down the timing or filing down the bolt catch lever -- which is spring-loaded, to reduce wear on itself and the bolt!) - hopup bucking (just wears out over time, as any bucking does, but involves disassembly of the upper receiver from the handguard and barrel to get to the hopup unit) - nozzle (as with any decent GBB gun, the nozzle is a designed failure point to preserve other parts, and disassembling the bolt in order to access the nozzle isn't too complicated -- however, I do wish TM used a slightly more durable material, but that would defeat the purpose of a designed failure point) Aluminum, Cerakoted receivers and "Made in Japan" quality help make the MWS a very excellent and reliable platform. The only two things I dislike about it is that the trigger is not as crisp as a GHK, and that whole nonsense with the popularity of the "Green Gas magazine mod" as propagated by another KZfaqr that has left people thinking that running an MWS on green gas requires a lot of work... Anyways I've ranted long enough, I can go on but maybe you should get your hands on any of the TM M4 GBBRs, and if you are planning to run it on green gas, just buy a spare buffer in advance, and be mindful under warm weather that you might want to prepare for the bolt catch issue. Feel free to DM me on IG about the MWS! Edit: about NPAS and adjustable velocity, I'm personally not a fan of adjustable systems, but Orga makes an adjustable flute valve that fits the MWS, and G&P also makes solid flute valves with varying levels of output, so you're covered if you really want to tune your MWS on the fly. I'd advise upgrading the inner barrel first since most TM M4s will have an inner barrel that is much shorter than the outer barrel, so you can make gains on the FPS just by changing inner barrels. Also, you mentioned in your video that the better trigger mech of the VFC are reliable and allow for better gas efficiency than the WE, but the TM system, being designed specifically for airsoft, is probably closer to ideal than a more faithful reproduction of an AR-15 trigger box and buffer. The "hammer" has a steel roller and gets out of the way of the bolt much faster than a regular-sized AR-15 hammer, and the lightweight plastic buffer has a secondary recoil spring that helps send the bolt forward. The faster the hammer resets and gets out of the way of the bolt, the faster your gas is cut off, after all, and the less resistance that hammer gives, the better.

@@delta-wd4gg I'm actually one of those people who don't like the MWS because the things it is better at than its competitors aren't that important to me. The shooting performance and consistency of the guns are near identical when modded to the tits with a well thought out hop and barrel set up. I have 2 newer VFC ARs and a GHK V2, all pretty heavily modded and have played with a few of my friends MWS rifles a good couple of times... the fanboyism is sort of getting old from both sides though, the MWS is a great rifle if I had no other choice personally, but I'll stick with my GHKs and VFCs....i'm cycling a Zparts steel bolt on green gas fairly easily on my HK416 as well on the stock nozzle...fast ROF Full auto...as well as the fact my SR16 has a steel bolt from the factory from VFC and it cycles quite fast too. Maybe not quite as fast as a MWS, but still consistent for a full mag dump. The VFC definitely has the most realistic (out of our mentioned entry high end airsoft brands here)FCG as well in feel design and construction to a real AR. A lot of real steel budget ARs wished it had triggers that felt that good. Your statements kind of confusing, how its not like a real AR15 with the hammer roller so it ends up being more realistic.....which old 1st gen VFC ARs had, but the FCG in those were total trash and kept breaking hence the new forged ones they been using since the 416 probably...not saying the MWS breaks for that design choice, clearly not, but I look for realism first for my collection, and most of the things you've mentioned on the MWS are why I wouldn't get it over more of the others personally. I totally agree he should check out the MWS before he makes a decision and a video like this though lol

@@Rawdawgggg you misunderstand, I'm saying a gas blowback system like the MWS which is purpose built for airsoft would have the potential to be better for gas efficiency and reliability than a real steel-style FCG, provided that sufficient R&D is done to optimize that system. I never said it was more realistic in that sense.

Its really the best. Its cheap, strong and fun

@@MrThordy bad quality control

@@MrThordy Calling GHK cheap is peak hilarity. Their AKs cost over $550 minimum and couldn't even be bothered to make the FCG steel.

G5 receiver is crap, cracks all the time. I wish they made a metal receiver

You will Need them😂

when my channel gets bigger or when I get patreon. Now I cannot justify spending so much time on a gameplay.

Agreed steel trigger box with steel hop chamber (4 me) barrel bucking and here i am 20 30k rounds still going

Did you have any problem fitting steel trigger parts? Did you change the whole box or just the parts inside?

@@WieselOnTheFrontSome gentle hand filing, the new RA tech individual parts are good to go basically , I think they revamped compared to the complete trigger box, cwi do a better trigger set tho , never in stock. I hate getting RA TECH, the one downside of WE

@@blu-onetactical7696 Yes, I think WA system realism is awesome in the trigger group, and if GHK had a carry handle receiver, Id be GHK, but they dont. I hear you can fit a Viper M16a1 upper to a GHK?? My WE base system runs good after WORK. Warning, I built my WE as a frankengun, bit by bit, it took a lot of filing and fitting to get it running right , but now I have a hand fitted GBBR, I think its as good as anything out there. But , Ive been GBBR since the OG WA M4, so I know what to do. self built WE GBBR's remind me of like Guarder 1911 kits, do not run out of teh box, but once you hand fit everything, Monster.

@@maccumhaill5534 Thank you!

Thanks! yeah I completely forgot about that one. I've tried it before and it seemed like a quite complex system. It does shoot well but I just didn't feel attracted to it mostly because it looked like a nightmare to repair. Can you expand on this please? I'm curious to hear your opinion.

@@JosefMucha100 Unfortunately I can't have an opinion yet on neither. I see that some mil-sim teams prefer TM MWS and was wondering why? So far it seems it performs a bit better in low temp conditions. I personally incline towards the VFC as it seems as a simpler system and I don't have to change a lot to a already expensive replica. For really cold weather cqb I ll just keep using my ptw if that's the case.

@@JosefMucha100 I went and saw a TM MTR to see what's all the fuss about. As soon as I opened the replica I said to myself I don't want to have anything to do with that plasticky stuff. Seemed toyish and the cherry on top was the upper and lower space. I bought a VFC Mk18 Mod 1 the next day and can't say I m sorry so far. Better quality parts with a more solid feel. Sturdy assembly, mags have zero wobble and the hop unit functions pretty well. Shooting decent at 50m.(on par with my SSP1 upgraded with ML I-key and hop wheel). Hop-up unit is adjustable in a very precise way with an allen key received in the package. Using .32g bbs and green gas. The only minuses are the stock with a huge wobble and the spring twang in the buffer tube. Since I m also a SSG24 owner I shoud be able to manage the twang and already ordered some RS Magpul furniture for externals.

Why is no one talking about this. I've wanted a 416a5 from vfc for soooo long the ultimate hop up adjustment in all gbbr right where the gas block is which makes so much sense using your support hand to quickly adjust. Wtf

Correct its a genius system works perfect

@@blu-onetactical7696 It's not, at least not the way how VFC does it - since it uses a very long plastic rod to act as a lever (which rotates inside and push the hop up arm), there's a lot of play due to empty space and elasticity of the rod itself, causing a lot of inaccuracy problems unrealistic as the standard rotary hop adjustment is since WA M4s, it is the most reliable and has the least play, and at least is reasonably easy to adjust with your finger

@@user-uv5ld3cx5tfalse news here from you it’s a steal rod in there

wouldn't recommend WE SCAR simply was an extremely old gun that has structural problems, but not much good things about VFC either

Also the We Mp5 is great. But I hear their Ak, m4 and maybe their scar to a lesser degree aren’t that superb.

I have the G36C, it's a recent aquisition so I can't say too much about it, except that it came in perfect condition from taiwangun. Works well above 12℃ which is good enough for me, I don't play in the cold. Below that performance degrades exponentially. I also have the WE MP5, that came with a lot of problems from airsoftpro, most of them related to the mags and that thing is mostly a warm weather gun. And finally I also have the WE Mk17, that has a known problem with not feeding, with a known solution. I did it from the first moment and didn't have a problem with it since. Runs even in a cold spring day, although it's power output drops and consumes a lot of green gas. I've never actually tried it with anything stronger. So as you can see my trick is that I have a lot of guns (more than I listed above, TM MP7 and a few sewing machines) and I rotate them so they wear out slowly.

iirc in a recent vid joseph replied to another comment about G36's saying he doesn't really like them, doesn't use them as a result

@@kodiakulv5148 in my opinion the we G39 series of gbbr are one of the best starter gas blow backs to start with.

@@mahadkaezan536 About the SCAR... I have mine since 2011, still working perfectly, yes it had problems (bought new "closed bolt" with gen.1 mags) but after converting to "open" bolt and gen.2 mags it was a joy to play with. Long story short WE's problem is materials... All brands have problems but when materials are crap there I s not much you can do. Not a WE fan boy, they are the only ones I can find and afford.

FG airsoft did not go bankrupt, he just wasn't interested anymore and went on doing something else.

And you can get Z-Parts steel parts which are ACTUAL steel, not the mild steel GHK uses for just the trigger. Beyond that the GHK has zamak/pot metal internals for many of the FCG. It makes no sense to buy a GHK. VFC's are interesting though.

cool, do you have any guide for that?

Watch "How to adjust power (FPS) on GHK M4 tutorial" on KZfaq kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l62lq6R4v5rJhHk.html. This is the nozzle mod, personally I got the magnetic locking npas. Though, at the end of the day as long as whatever gun works well for you is the right one to use. Your vfc looks sick!

Wgc, mlemart, also vfc will send you the Parts if you e-mail them

@@shughart2219 VFC directly? Really? Interesting... Maybe I should put their 416A5 on my wishlist.

@@shughart2219 soooo your saying i could email vfc and purchase a rifle with some spare parts🤔🤔🤔

@@blu-onetactical7696 i think so

What mods do you need to make to the GHK mag?

@@NoReason059 Owning neither a GHK nor a VFC, I could not tell you. I just know GHK mags can be modded to work in VFC, WA mage can be modded to work in GHK, and GHK mags work just fine in WA guns.

its surprising to see how many people do have problems with different models. Last time I just read a thread about someone who said that the L85 is the most reliable WE GBBR out there

We guns are so bad

I have a steel trigger box and I love it the only thing is it stays on semi until you charge it. I like the original on safe cant charge it.

Its perfect, and with the steel bolt carrier and Angel custom red nozzle, I haven't broken anything in 10k rounds, and everything looks less than 20% worn compared to 5k rounds on the stock bolt, catch, and trigger.

WE scar is the best first GBBR regarding price - performance ratio. I also started with scar and I don't regret it.

Remmber his employer is partnered with VFC.

@@ivanmonahhov2314 I mean i wouldn't buy a VFC anyway, i would've just tried to push on to get a GHK but due to the pandemic and everything i couldn't find one in europe

@@codemy666 GHK quality due to Covied took a nosedive

@@ivanmonahhov2314 I've heard so, it's really hard to start off in the GBBR community due to lack of info or just people being heavily biased...

Destroys them, the TM MWS has incredible gas efficiency and accuracy The only real problem of the MTR is that trying to take the outer barrel out is a huge pain in the ass since it's so incredibly tightly screwed onto the receiver

I don't know about M4s (because I don't like them), but for example in the Mk17 you can put some e-tape and some thread lock here and there and suddenly nothing wobbles. I also have the Apache and the G36c, those don't wobble. Maybe the mag a little bit in the Apache. And all of them have fairly convenient hop up adjustment.

@@sogerc1 its the receiver that wobbles. I tried.different things, like fitting an o ring above the pins or putting glue in the pinholes but it doenst really work. I think the metal is too soft and grinds itself over time Basically you would need a steel receiver

@@FloChris i just use a magic pin and boom no more wobble a few pmags compliments it very well👌

@@FloChris I used to have the WE 416, it did wobble but there is this "magic pin" , that's how it's called that replaces front M4 pin and the wobble is gone.

@@blu-onetactical7696 unfortunately they dont make it for the pdw. Wobble on my M16 is alright

Join the we group on Facebook

@@blu-onetactical7696 haha I also learn a lot about WE’s gun from that group. The people are so helpful.

Steel trigger should not breat as easily. I would definitely get spare nozzles as those can break if you cause a double feed.

hey, could u give a link with the locktite guy

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/map_pMuTmN2sgIk.html

I really like that as well but part availabilitie is a nightmare

@@BikeWorkz1991 part availabilitie is a nightmare but not in Japan so what I do is importing Gas Blowback parts from Japan for it

Yes Josef, please make that video. Although I doubt that holos will be on that list, they are expensiveAF. Maybe Whit M was thinking about EOTech replicas which in fact are red dots.

Probably better off either going with low budget real steel grade stuff or just go balls out and get a real aimpoint. Either way you’re not gonna be able to do a cheap optic on a GBBR. I’ve seen people try it and they always either lose zero or ruin them altogether in extreme cases. Get a quality optic for a GBBR. AEGs you can rock whatever you want, but optics for a GBBR absolutely need to be quality pieces, as to withstand recoil and stuff.

I tried once one of those ACOG shaped red dots on a WE Mk17 (Scar Heavy). After a few shots it turned off. I could turn it back on by wiggling the intensity level button, but after each shot it turned off again. Right now I use it with an LPVO made for air rifles, that seems to be able handle the recoil.

@@sogerc1 okay, I see. Yeah that could possibly handle it long term

I have heard that the aim point t1s ones are pretty good, and last a lot longer