Mach-E GT Battery Removal

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See the removal procedure for the 98.8 kWh Extended Range Battery of a 2021 Ford Mustang Mach E GT. This impressive 276 Ah battery has a nominal voltage of 347.8 Volts.
*Notice. Ford’s EV batteries are designed to be supported by a 60”x30” or larger lifting table. using a smaller lift table can cause internal battery damage.
TIMELINE:
0:00 Start
0:08 Introduction
0:50 How to lift the Mach-E for battery removal
1:55 Temporary neutral needed
2:38 The electrically actuated parking pawl
3:02 Why you must disconnect the 12 Volt battery
3:50 12 Volt battery disconnection
4:48 The under-car covers
5:35 Lifting the vehicle and draining the coolant
6:00 Two coolant hoses at the rear of the battery and four at the front.
6:25 How to disconnect the Twist II coolant connector
7:20 Examples of locked and unlocked coolant hose connections
8:08 Disconnecting the high voltage connector at the rear of the battery
9:43 Make sure the connectors are clean before removing them.
10:22 Disconnecting the four high voltage connectors at the front of the battery
14:33 What to do if the high voltage de-powering procedure fails
15:05 Positioning the OTC 1595 battery lift table*
18:54 Bolt removal and concerns
20:30 Special locking bolts
22:15 Lowering the battery and disconnecting the last cooling hose connector
26:30 repositioning the battery for cover removal
27:02 Battery crane lifting tools for swapping entire batteries
27:45 Battery weight = 600 kg (1322.8 lbs)
30:15 Removing the 64 battery cover bolts
30:47 The battery vent patch
31:52 Removing the battery cover
32:40 The battery module layout and cell configuration
33:25 MUST SEE: What gives the battery an extended range?
35:23 The battery junction block and the five contactors
37:13 The two different battery modules
38:36 The battery Energy Control module (BECM)
39:48 Video Summary
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@1Jbeats
@1Jbeats Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable. John, you are so easy to follow you make me wish I would have pursued a career in automotive work. Thank you for sharing your passion and knowledge.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks
@MrPatdeeee
@MrPatdeeee Жыл бұрын
Amen and NONE Finer! For He is a rare teacher. Which is the greatest I have ever seen and heard in my 90 yrs on this planet. Thank Jesus.
@BentheEVguy
@BentheEVguy Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. All his videos pull me like a magnet to the screen. I am so thankful I was able to attend his class
@DWESENTERPRISE
@DWESENTERPRISE Жыл бұрын
Bro is a straight beast! In a wheelchair and handling this by himself and seems super calm. Great video! I'll never do this but it's great to watch and see exactly what's all there and involved.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@MachE_VLOG
@MachE_VLOG Жыл бұрын
I love the detail that your are showing for all of us Mach-E owners. Very informative and fascinating.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! More to come
@anthonyrstrawbridge
@anthonyrstrawbridge Жыл бұрын
🙏👀✌️👍♥️
@jakeh8366
@jakeh8366 Жыл бұрын
It's like Christmas in July, almost daily uploads!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
LOL, yes
@NicholasLittlejohn
@NicholasLittlejohn Жыл бұрын
Really amazing, John. This will help a lot of people reclaim and reuse batteries from junkyards and save the landfill/encourage reuse and innovation 👏
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@EELinneman
@EELinneman Жыл бұрын
As a Mach-E GT Performance Edition owner who had his HVBJB fail, this is the level of care and expertise that I hope the dealer technicians are using with my car. Thank you for sharing these videos.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I also hope so.
@gabbymcgibson984
@gabbymcgibson984 Жыл бұрын
Gooood luck, Im having to work on mine myself, Ive had this thing in the shop longer than Ive driven it. NEVER again, im so sick of this.
@ashton9699
@ashton9699 Жыл бұрын
Thank you professor for taking your time to create these excellent videos for free to the public. This is the level of excellent knowledge and instruction that trade schools everywhere should be taking hints from, especially as the automotive technician industry moves towards needing to incorporate more in depth training regarding EVs.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@kswis
@kswis Жыл бұрын
Trying to get my 16 yr old to take a class such as this. If we got super lucky he would land in your class. These are the cars our kids will be working on when they have kids to support of their own. You truly are teaching the future. Thank you
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Maltanx
@Maltanx Жыл бұрын
Wow, three lessons in less than a week. Thank you professor! This is the only place on Internet where common people like us can learn such things. This channel is invaluable. By the way. I've had a question for very long time. When you created this channel, was it mainly for teaching your students and maybe offering them review lessons or did you already had in mind that many other people like us would be interested? Why exactly did you create this channel? I'm asking just because I can see that filming and editing is a huge work, and to me it's just amazing that a true expert like you would give to the world such extremely detailed lessons which require hours of preparation and work.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I started the channel as a place to store the videos I made for my students. I had no idea that anyone else would be interested in them. Today the videos still serve my students, but now I am also aware I have a large following from around the world.
@jakeh8366
@jakeh8366 Жыл бұрын
Your experience with this procedure almost mirrors mine when removing it for the first time. Getting the car positioned just right may as well be an act of Congress. VERY difficult, and can be made worse if you have an older lift with less arm flexibility. Some old lifts with two stage arms can't even lift these. The coolant clips are a pain, and I fear how difficult they will be to remove with some dirt and grime built up. The diagram you found from the supplier is very helpful looks like. I think the offset center of gravity is why the Ford lift table is HUGE. The lift surface is probably 4 feet by 5 feet, and the lift itself weighs something like 800 pounds. Very heavy duty, it was overbuilt to work for future larger packs in upcoming vehicles.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Jake. I do wish I had the larger lift table; the center of gravity would not be an issue.
@MilanDupal
@MilanDupal Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I can 100% understand your language and explanation. Regards from Czech Republic.
@patsplat
@patsplat Жыл бұрын
Good to see you back!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Miata822
@Miata822 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff. i really appreciate the level of detail. I've been following your videos forever (well, for years). I don't know if I have ever mentioned the wonderful example you set by doing the hard work yourself. You don't cut corners. No whining, you just do it. The example you set is meaningful. It also makes me feel guilty for putting off looking at the leaking windshield washer fluid coming from my wife's Subaru. Sending you an email on a different subject you may find interesting.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@pasad335
@pasad335 Жыл бұрын
32:20 Whoa, another human! Watching these videos often feels like watching "The Omega Man", where Professor Kelly is the only man left alive on earth.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
LOL!
@toguro1009
@toguro1009 Жыл бұрын
1,300 lb. Battery and ugly wheels. Your detailed instructions of the high voltage connectors are very good. I love this channel.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@fuzzoptic7476
@fuzzoptic7476 3 ай бұрын
Many thanks for your videos. I just purchased a Mach-E GT, and I learned so much about how these vehicles operate. Thanks again for all the technical commentary-love it!!
@user-sq2co1gq3x
@user-sq2co1gq3x Жыл бұрын
Thank you professor. Best regards from Ukraine!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto 11 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@A2an
@A2an Жыл бұрын
NO... The video isn't long enough... Always interesting, just love them 👍 Grate video and thank for your time and effort 😊
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@milanb3718
@milanb3718 Жыл бұрын
Great series of videos. You are doing a great job for those who want more about EV's. Hats off. Greetings from Croatia!
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 Ай бұрын
Beautiful video...im about to take delivery of a Mach E GT Performance and this was extremely informative
@bobbinatorrah67
@bobbinatorrah67 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these!!
@theautomotivegarage
@theautomotivegarage Жыл бұрын
Thank You Professor for all your efforts and time. I always look forward to your videos,
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. Thank you
@erikkirby1
@erikkirby1 Жыл бұрын
never too long videos with Mr. Kelly!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ridgebackpilot
@ridgebackpilot Жыл бұрын
Excellent video series! I'm learning so much about the innards of my Mustang Mach-E high voltage battery system. Keep them coming!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@taha.al-dulaimi1461
@taha.al-dulaimi1461 11 ай бұрын
Clear and helpful explanation. Thank you for your great effort, Doctor🎖.
@carlosfranchi5043
@carlosfranchi5043 Жыл бұрын
Thank God you back sir, thanks
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
So nice of you
@snarktwain644
@snarktwain644 Жыл бұрын
Thank you again Professor for another quality instructional video!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thank you
@heathwirt8919
@heathwirt8919 Жыл бұрын
Well done Professor Kelly, really enjoyed learning of this new technology.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you
@amarmangaonkar7682
@amarmangaonkar7682 Жыл бұрын
Such a interesting way to teach! I am grateful for knowledge you are imparting these are things that were never taught in my college.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@aymanwaleed5228
@aymanwaleed5228 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thank you
@454lando
@454lando Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for watching
@techiheed1845
@techiheed1845 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown. Fabulous detail as usual. thanks
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@bigwave_dave8468
@bigwave_dave8468 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks
@yankeedoodle7693
@yankeedoodle7693 Жыл бұрын
Excellent information on this.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad you think so! Thank you
@glyn1782
@glyn1782 Жыл бұрын
Now is the time I wish I had payed attention at school ( when I turned up ) excellent video John 👍
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Paul1958R
@Paul1958R Жыл бұрын
Great video - thank you! I just wish you could have repositioned the camera so that we could see better what you were doing under the vehicle.
@leonardoarandadeleon8563
@leonardoarandadeleon8563 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very good explanation! Thank you very much for the information, you are excellent teaching step by step security methods, architecture, measurement, diagnosis, reprogramming. Excellent!!! Many thanks. Greetings from Uruguay.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@timbrown9731
@timbrown9731 Жыл бұрын
John I have the same pair of gloves I use at the winery every year we have to cycle them out either get them inspected or replaced!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Keep them certified! Thanks for watching
@rboz4637
@rboz4637 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive work!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it! Thank you
@MarioDallaRiva
@MarioDallaRiva Жыл бұрын
Nope - I don’t ever think your videos ate “long enough”! Great stuff. Those coolant hose connectors look very interesting. Assuming they’re handled properly, of course. Hopefully they make that satisfying ‘click’ when positively engaged/disengaged. Ahh…
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 Those coolant connectors are very impressive!
@larryboroff2801
@larryboroff2801 Жыл бұрын
My dad used to take me into Weber state during your competitions. He seemed to greatly enjoy the University.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
That is awesome Larry, I have been here 32 years, we probably crossed paths.
@Pablo_Automotive
@Pablo_Automotive Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for another great class
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@z00h
@z00h Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always Professor
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@hybridsolutiondiagnostics
@hybridsolutiondiagnostics Жыл бұрын
Amazing professor... thanks so much for sharing this amazing info 👋😎👋😎
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@annierenard5954
@annierenard5954 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Williengeorge
@Williengeorge Жыл бұрын
Hello Professor from New Zealand. I'm not sure when we will get these cars or if at all!. We do have a Tesla dealer. Fascinating videos, may thanks for them. I do hope younger automotive mechanics follow some of this, because this is where we are heading. I have 3 Hybrid cars myself and various mechanical service people I take them to have no idea of the technology or dangers involved. Your videos are free (pretty much) and filled with priceless knowledge. Well done. Look forward to the next ones.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@mdaquibautomobile5884
@mdaquibautomobile5884 Жыл бұрын
Welcome back professor 🙂,I really miss your classes and during my diploma in automobile engineering I watch your video on Ev and In India the automobile company Focus on EV and I hope this will help me. By the way, Thanks a lot professor 🙂
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@larry8able
@larry8able Жыл бұрын
Thanks! For excellent content
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Thank you very much!
@BentheEVguy
@BentheEVguy Жыл бұрын
This is just awesome
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@powersterk
@powersterk Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate Thank you professor .👍
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
So nice of you
@MarkBarrett
@MarkBarrett Жыл бұрын
5:50 Holy crap! John Kelly works on cars in a wheelchair! Holy crap! How is it even possible?
@MarkBarrett
@MarkBarrett Жыл бұрын
Mechanics/technicians have to be contortionists to do their job. Occasionally, he will have to stand up, occasionally.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
LOL, yes
@jamesl197999
@jamesl197999 Жыл бұрын
Great information. 👍
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad you think so! Thank you
@pedroresolve
@pedroresolve Жыл бұрын
Hello. Nice explication! ✌️ from Portugal!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thank you.
@pedroresolve
@pedroresolve Жыл бұрын
@@WeberAuto of course, problem is, at same time...my english it is not perfect...but i try!
@toolbox-gua
@toolbox-gua Жыл бұрын
I've come to stick with your class. I'm not a mechanic nor close to an E vehicle, but this is fascinating.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you. See continue.weber.edu/professional/programs/evtraining/ for more information
@haseebkhan7426
@haseebkhan7426 Жыл бұрын
Great sir.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rezahashemi6861
@rezahashemi6861 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@erikwilson9498
@erikwilson9498 Жыл бұрын
My wife is probably watching Survivor or something and thinks I'm crazy for wanting to learn all I can before I get my Ford Lightning ! Being a mechanic for 30 plus years, I am absolutely loving watching your incredibly well done videos. never thought I would go electric but what I have learned from you I feel much more confident even though I'll have to keep my old suburban so I have something to fix. I sure hope some tech videos of the Ford Lightning will be coming ! Are the cels 4680's ? or a completely different type
@jeremyventurino9481
@jeremyventurino9481 Жыл бұрын
Currently, only Tesla is using 4680 cells as far as I know. Tesla has their tabless dry electrode 4680, and Panasonic is making a 5-tab wet electrode version. These Ford cells are similar to the Nissan leaf, Chevy bolt etc. But the chemistry is different.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. Enjoy your Lightning!
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
"4680" is a just a size of cylindrical cell (46 millimetres in diameter by 80 millimetres long). Most EV manufacturers do not use cylindrical cells at all - as in this vehicle, they use rectangular pouch cells that are stacked into rectangular boxes (modules).
@daveg8119
@daveg8119 Жыл бұрын
Professor Kelly Thank you! Did I miss how to drain the coolant loops? I thought I watched all the way to the end of part 2. And I'm only 25 minutes into part 3. I'd suspect coolant changes would be a maintenance item, that could be done at home with a Mitivac air vacuum filler system? As a engineer not in the automotive field, thanks for explaining the scientific detail of how and why your doing each step of the process.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Good catch. I forgot to video disconnecting the hoses at the front of the battery. Disconnecting the two battery coolant hoses at the front of the battery drains the battery coolant expansion tank. Disconnecting the two rear inverter coolant hoses at the front or rear of the battery housing drains the motor electronics coolant expansion tank. I use the Mityvac vacuum refilling system, it works well. I will demonstrate it in a future video after reinstalling the battery. Thanks for watching
@daveg8119
@daveg8119 Жыл бұрын
@@WeberAuto Thanks! I'm either going to have a Ford Lightning or Mach E soon in the garage. Great to see Ford willing to collaborate with Universities to share technical knowledge. It seems like their more willing than others to share serviceability information. Helping potentially grow what might become the independent EV technician population of the future. Allowing customers to not always have to rely on limited dealership service for repairs.
@t.f7083
@t.f7083 Жыл бұрын
Professor Kelly, does the cooling system for the drive unit and inverter have a thermostat or does the coolant pump cycle on and off to maintain proper operating temperature for these components? Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
No thermostat. The coolant pump is variable speed. Thanks for watching
@V10PDTDI
@V10PDTDI Жыл бұрын
HI John you were taking about how hard it was to position the car with the special adaptor I was thinking why don't you use 4 wheel jack dolly some are mechanical and others are hydraulic in my shop I have 2 of them but for your application you would need 4 of them I use them to lift the front end of car that are too low for me to get on my lift but for u it would be nice so you can move the car in all direction even if the car is in park plus it would lift the car a bit more so it would make it easier to put the adaptor on the body of the car plus it's nice to use those dolly if a car is broken or you want to push it against a wall to save space in the work shop or like if you have a car with a bad air suspension and the car is too low to get it on a lift especially a car.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
That is a good idea John, thank you!
@av8bvma513
@av8bvma513 Жыл бұрын
I was about to make the same comment!
@laura-ann.0726
@laura-ann.0726 Жыл бұрын
This looks very similar in design concept to the Chevy Bolt battery pack, just a little larger. I assume the Toyota BZ4X and Tesla battery packs are about the same, except Tesla use cylindrical instead of rectangular cells.
@BlindBatG34
@BlindBatG34 Жыл бұрын
Amother famtastic video professor! What is the book time on removing the battery? Would you consider this process easier than pulling the cab on a ford truck?
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I do not know the book time, but it is certainly easier than pulling the cab on a Ford truck.
@billlastname153
@billlastname153 Жыл бұрын
Very informative, looking forward to the rest of the series, do you know which contactors are sticking in the ford recall, as ford says to avoid repeated hard acceleration, and to avoid dc fast charging while waiting for the software fix. I was hoping to see a common contactor between the dc fasting charging and the battery voltage. Thanks for your time. I'm a retired fleet mechanic, and current owner of a Mach-e extended range gt
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes, I will demonstrate the contactors in action in my next video.
@NicholasLittlejohn
@NicholasLittlejohn Жыл бұрын
Sad about the recall
@billlastname153
@billlastname153 Жыл бұрын
@@NicholasLittlejohn Recalls have been part of the automotive trade for years, this one seams minor compared to some of the others. I'm sure that future production models will get better. John has shown that the replacement of the contactor module, is not that hard of a fix, and if need after warranty, I would not hesitate to do this repair my self. My wife's mach-e has been a good vehicle to this point 20 k so far, and I enjoy learning the new technology. Thanks for the reply Nicholas
@RealEngineer
@RealEngineer Жыл бұрын
Here I am, can’t even change tiers on my GT. But this wizard removes the battery like it’s nothing 😅
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Lol. Thanks for watching!
@missmichelle776
@missmichelle776 6 ай бұрын
I have had three of these cars. When I had issues (on first two cars) we visited five different Ford dealerships that (all) told me that they had NO IDEA how to work on my mach-E.
@DanOnWheels
@DanOnWheels Жыл бұрын
Professor Kelly, I hope you don’t mind me asking you a question off topic from your video. I’m a full time wheelchair user and am looking at getting a new BraunAbility side entry XT power ramp van (I transfer from my wheelchair to the van seat). But, I need to be able to pull a small trailer (Scoota Trailer, 1,000 lbs GVWR). I’m wanting to get a 2021/2022 Toyota Sienna hybrid van. The BraunAbility website states that although they don’t sell them with a tow package you can have a Toyota dealership install one once you purchase the van. My local Toyota dealer has said they will install it for me if I get the Sienna and it’s possible. However, my local mobility dealer doesn’t recommend pulling a trailer with the BraunAbility converted Toyota Sienna, but isn’t giving me a reason other than BraunAbility doesn’t sell them with it being installed. If I don’t get the Sienna my next choice would be a Chrysler Pacifica as BraunAbility does sell them with the trailer hitch installed. However, their are many reason on why I think the Sienna would be a better vehicle for me. You know the eCVT Toyota uses very well and being a fellow wheelchair user I’m hoping you are familiar with the BraunAbility side entry minivan conversions. Do you think it would be ok to pull a small trailer with the BraunAbility converted Toyota Sienna or should I look at the Pacifica?
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, I drive a 2020 Sienna van (Braunability side entry conversion). I like the Sienna because it has the tallest roof and widest opening. I also like the reliability of Toyota products. I do not know if a Toyota trailer hitch will bolt on to a converted van. You may need to get a custom hitch manufactured. Best wishes.
@b67fstb21
@b67fstb21 Ай бұрын
Professor . So if the 12V battery is disconnected...The HV system is out of order. Same with the interlock. Some remarks from a former diagnostic technician with 35yrs of experience with MB cars . That green plug disconnector .....use a padlock instead of a simple carabiner. Second , if disconnecting the minus pole of the battery ...put a plastic cap on the minus pole cause that thick cable has a "memory" and can bent back to its former position . Regards from Belgium .
@kevinmills5293
@kevinmills5293 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting tear down. I’ve read that there is a weakness in the battery that prevents more than 5 seconds at full power. Is this something you have identified during the tear down? I’d be interested to hear your view on this issue.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
The Mach-E GT has a nominal rating for the fuses of 630A (Rear Motor) and 350A (Front Motor). They are pushing the limits with a current draw of 1050 amps during full acceleration. I suspect the fuse sizes, contactor sizes, and maximum allowed current needed to be better calibrated to avoid overheating the contactors (A possible reason for the five-second power limit). I will be surprised if the junction block with contactors and fuses gets replaced due to the recall for the contactor issue.
@ExAutoAnalyst
@ExAutoAnalyst Жыл бұрын
How's the quality of the battery tray? I watched one get ripped out at Munro and the welds were awful.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
It looked fine to me. The bottom appears to be thin aluminum. There is an inspection procedure to check for damage that might damage the battery modules. Stay on pavement.
@mikemiller659
@mikemiller659 Жыл бұрын
Hi, Maybe you covered this question in earlier video, but what are you tearing into the battery? Bad cells?
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Just for fun! There are no problems
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 Жыл бұрын
Professor, I’m curious what the reasoning is for buying the particular trim of the vehicles you purchase. With the model S you have, I believe it is the highest trim (Performance dual motor). The Mach-E is the GT model. I’m just curious why the college purchase these more expensive models, vs something like the Mach-E4x or the Model S long range. I can understand wanting to get the big battery, dual motor versions, but why the performance models? Thanks for another great video!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Good question. I learned from purchasing our 2017 Bolt EV without all the options (DC Fast Charge) that limited myself from showing my students all of the latest and essential to understand technology. I will always try to purchase the fully loaded versions of these vehicle for educational purposes.
@timbrown9731
@timbrown9731 Жыл бұрын
I'm suprzed to see no lock-tight thread type sealant on the threads of the Batt bolts... you see in the automotive industry, on Subaru brake caliper setup they use a lot of the time.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
The have a locking head design.
@ahmadalkhalidy911
@ahmadalkhalidy911 5 ай бұрын
How do i know wich battery pack my Mach E has, SR or ER ?
@Maltanx
@Maltanx Жыл бұрын
Professor, I have a question. Are these batteries officially serviceable for repairs? Let's say a cell goes bad and the car tells me to contact a Ford dealership for repair. Would they change just the bad cell, the entire module or even the whole battery? And what about the contractors or the battery management module? I'm asking because I frequently hear that battery problems in electric vehicles often requires (officially) a full battery swap. But the inside of a battery is so modular that it seems fairly easy to swap just the faulty component.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Any of the 12 battery modules can be changed, same with the junction block (with contactors) and the BMS. My next video will cover those topics.
@jeremyventurino9481
@jeremyventurino9481 Жыл бұрын
Yep, there's a battery balancing procedure that may need to be performed. Unlike the Tesla packs, which are a lot less repairable. The structural battery in the new Tesla model y isn't repairable at all.
@mikemiller659
@mikemiller659 Жыл бұрын
@@WeberAuto So then its possible to change any individule cells that may be bad by removing the module & testing each cell. Thats the key to keeping a EV affordable.
@waynerussell6401
@waynerussell6401 Жыл бұрын
@@mikemiller659 Tesla are aiming to make 20 million/yr by 2030. No way to do that with traditional manufacturing and repair perceptions. Drivers in this crisis are lower cost by design and ease of manufacturing. This runs through all modern manufacturing technologies. Tesla have found modules to be redundant given the low rate of pack failures. In the third row interviews musk talked about the Roadster needing modules because of nascent battery technology and from then on it went unchallenged until the Model Y.
@z00h
@z00h Жыл бұрын
@@waynerussell6401 feed me daddy Elon
@williambasinger5859
@williambasinger5859 Жыл бұрын
Most torque to yield bolts in most applications can be used up to 5 times. Now this is never recommended to to but I bet if you read the fine print in the ford service manual it will allow more than a one time use.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback!
@Frank-pv1hp
@Frank-pv1hp Жыл бұрын
The BECM may be the biggest PITA module known to mankind to replace! Are you sure it is serviceable separately from the high voltage battery?
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Hi Frank, yes, it is serviceable seperately.
@benstouffer
@benstouffer Жыл бұрын
Can you do the same for a ford E-Transit?
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
I would like that, but from what I have seen, it is just the RWD Mach-E powertrain with a Van body on it. Thanks for the suggestion
@MarkBarrett
@MarkBarrett Жыл бұрын
6:58 I looked up the manufacturer of the connector, to disconnect it.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
It was a challenge
@rcarhouse
@rcarhouse Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@V10PDTDI
@V10PDTDI Жыл бұрын
you are my favorite EV specialist I would like to know what is your opinion on battery pack serviceability of Tesla vs Ford, VW ,Audi,Porsche, Hundai, KIA etc... especially the new 4680 cell form factor I would like you if you can make a video on this topic I think it really important when the cars are going to be older and any replacement of any component could be done even used parts like contactor BMS modules etc. but if the battery is made like Tesla you can't even repurposed batteries for solar or any other EV other than using the complete battery pack are you going to get a VW ID4 ? . the way the top cover is removed compared to the top cover of the new Tesla pack see Munro live it's one of the last video it totally a disaster I don't like it.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I like the possibility of some type of service work on the battery. Tesla may have a good thing there or not; time will tell.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
@35:23 the energy capacity rating is in kilowatt-hours, not kilowatts. Prof. Kelly knows this - it's just a slip; my comment is only to correct any confusion by viewers.
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff Жыл бұрын
Apparently Ford recently issued a recall due to possibility of contactors failing open
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Yes, they can fail open or fail closed with repeated heavy acceleration of repeated DC fast charging.
@geoffgeoff3333
@geoffgeoff3333 Жыл бұрын
Sandy Munro and Team has nothing on you, Professor!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@MarkBarrett
@MarkBarrett Жыл бұрын
How many people make it to the third episode? I wonder how far people go.
@MarkBarrett
@MarkBarrett Жыл бұрын
It's very rare or never in movies to do a 4th.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Everyone does! lol
@fabrisoto
@fabrisoto Жыл бұрын
👏🏽🌹👏🏽🌹👏🏽🌹👏🏽
@GeorgeKnighton
@GeorgeKnighton 6 ай бұрын
Aspects of this surprised me in the level of difficulty. I suppose the only excuse is that we're almost never going to have to do this.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
@30:15 Do those bolts really have 7 mm heads? That's tiny, and obscure.
@mustangecoboosthpp3869
@mustangecoboosthpp3869 Жыл бұрын
Yet so many electric vehicle backers think they are going to have quick change battery shops instead of having to charge the batteries. There is nothing quick change about it.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@waynerussell6401
@waynerussell6401 Жыл бұрын
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@jameshoffman552
@jameshoffman552 Жыл бұрын
This couldn't be more different from a Tesla battery pack, especially the structural 4680 pack that Munro is dissecting, where everything is glued together with polyurethane. Also the new Model S/X battery, which has none of the open space seen in the Ford's pack.
@Miata822
@Miata822 Жыл бұрын
This is true. Tesla packs are notoriously difficult or even impossible to service. That makes them effectivly disposable. Unfortunate. Ford by design intent made their pack easy to service. In the event of a single failed cell a pack can be replaced without replacing the whole battery. GM has gone one step further, making the pack BMS reprogrammable so that cells could be replaced with some unknown future chemistry to prolong the life of the vehicle. Tesla's disposable batteries should be cause for investors and owners to complain. It is little different from Apple's new phones where battery replacement is prohibited by the phone's software.
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 Жыл бұрын
@@Miata822 amen! On the Tesla battery, if a single 4680 cell goes bad, the entire multi-thousand dollar battery has to be scrapped and replaced. Absolutely no serviceability. Almost every other manufacturer splits the battery into smaller, serviceable modules so that just the failed module can be replaced for a far less expensive and wasteful repair. Tesla forces you to replace the entire thing.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback
@NSAwatchesME
@NSAwatchesME Жыл бұрын
wow he's gone old :)
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
I may be old, but I make up for it by being SLOW!
@anthonyrstrawbridge
@anthonyrstrawbridge Жыл бұрын
If any interested viewers are struggling at any point during this presentation comment now.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
I do not understand what you mean
@Zage55
@Zage55 Жыл бұрын
this is basically an electric golf cart with extra steps
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback
@alexio5498
@alexio5498 Жыл бұрын
From what I've seen I your videos I really got to appreciate how tesla kept thing simple to mantain and produce, this ford really is a mess in comparison
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@z00h
@z00h Жыл бұрын
"tesla kept thing simple to mantain and produce" produce maybe, but maintain?
@BobSmith-mc7uq
@BobSmith-mc7uq Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Imagine the problems in service work at the dealer with Mech./Techs. that can't find their ass with both hands on a sunny day! These systems are more complex than they need to be. Long live ICE!!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thank you! There is a need for trained quality techs. That is part of my job to teach them.
@Miata822
@Miata822 Жыл бұрын
Change a camshaft in an ICE Mustang then come back and tell me about "complex". Done? Now go change out a bunch of synchros a teenage speed-shifter burned out. Have you ever even changed a clutch? Let me know whenever you are ready to talk about the clutches in 10-speed automatics...
@BobSmith-mc7uq
@BobSmith-mc7uq Жыл бұрын
@@Miata822 Billy.. some reason you got your panties all knotted up, maybe you are a dealer oil tech? Was turning wrenches while you were shitting yellow KID! Now go back to watching Speed Racer videos with your dog. lol
@rkgsd
@rkgsd Жыл бұрын
Not a single change for 2023. Perhaps 2024 will bring significant revisions just as new battery tech and more range. Tesla still has the edge because they find ways to keep the weight down, less parts and the latest battery technology.
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@guacamoleweiner69
@guacamoleweiner69 Жыл бұрын
I'll keep my 05 5.9 Cummins
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback
@mikemiller659
@mikemiller659 Жыл бұрын
I remember when diesel fuel was Half the price of gasoline , then Oldsmobile and VW cars came on the market and the next thing..its costing More than Gas. Doesn't it cost Less to refine Diesel than gasoline? Well at least Gas has dropped in cost..in CA gas is down to 5.13 a gal. from over 6 a few weeks ago.
@TrinidadBadMon
@TrinidadBadMon Жыл бұрын
Second!
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@tylervangaalen
@tylervangaalen Жыл бұрын
If you ain’t first you’re last!
@BobSmith-mc7uq
@BobSmith-mc7uq Жыл бұрын
@@tylervangaalen Absolutely Ricky bobby!
@tracycolorado
@tracycolorado Жыл бұрын
The Joke is on us. 🇺🇸 🤣 😂 😭 💀 😳 🇺🇸
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
I do not understand
@fochdischitt3561
@fochdischitt3561 Жыл бұрын
Well, I know what car I'm not buying...
@WeberAuto
@WeberAuto Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback
@GilmerJohn
@GilmerJohn Жыл бұрын
Why? It's somewhat of a PITA to get things out but so is changing the spark plugs of your typical FWD 6 cylinder IC engine. I suspect that when these cars age, "Good Old Boys" will simply "mix & match" cells to balance out the battery and replace the bad or "weak" cells. The car will not be as good as new but still have plenty of zip but less range.
@fochdischitt3561
@fochdischitt3561 Жыл бұрын
@@GilmerJohn Yeah nobody that is going to do that. The labor costs exceed the gains. If you think replacing the plugs on a 6 cylinder is hard you never owned an easy one.
@mikemiller659
@mikemiller659 Жыл бұрын
I think its cool, Have U seen the Tesla's Plaid (weird name) Beat Every Car in a race. 0-60 in 2.3 seconds. there expensive though, $139,000...each.
@jdkrwodar
@jdkrwodar 5 ай бұрын
BEG PARDON JOHN... SUPER WRONG TABLE FOR REMOVAL OF THAT PACK... YOU WILL INEVITABLY DAMAGE THE COOLING PLATES USING AN ENGINE TABLE TO REMOVE/REPLACE A BATTERY ASSY LIKE THAT! SORRY DIDN'T READ AS IT WAS IN FULL SCREEN.... WAS BLEEDING FROM THE EYES WATCHING YOU WITH THAT TABLE.
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