What made Addams family enjoyable was the fact that they didn’t realise they were weird. They weren’t acting like they are different from everyone, they genuinely thought they are the “normal” ones.

My headcannon is that no one knows how the parents met and they just keep making up stories about it to mess with people

The part that always throws me is when Wednesday starts to hate her father when she thought he killed someone. But she LOVES murderers, she's tried to off people herself, she literally talks about wanting to be killed on several occasions. Like did they forget who Wednesday was when writing her?

Wednesday drove me nuts. It took what could be a fun idea and did nothing about it. The school of "freaks" might as well have been full of "normies"

Honestly, Morticia killing a stalker and Gomez being the ultimate power simp by taking the blame for it does fit into traditional Addams family shenanigans. Only Gomez would proudly use the murder to hit on his wife. You know saying 'of course I had to kill him! Morticia's charms and beauty can drive any man to madness! Unfortunately he wasn’t as committed to the madness.' Type lines.

Honestly one of my biggest problems with this show is that Wednesday almost NEVER solves any elements of the mystery by herself. Hell, Eugene, who's HOSPITALIZED, figures out who the killer is long after most audiences figure it out.

My question was "Does this story need to be about the Addamses? If you swapped them out for original characters with the same personalities, would it make any real difference?" I think no. To me, it felt like they gave Tim Burton a pass at Chilling Adventures of Sabrina

What stuck me very oddly was that Morticia and Gomez were *against* Wednesday doing (attempted) murder. Light-hearted Murder and torture is *literally* what the Addams Family is about, even when they were cartoons. So the Addamses being like every other family just. Feels really wrong. Everyone was so uptight!

Another big issue with the show is the parents. In the OG material they have always been super accepting of Wednesday but in this show they just aren't? There were so many other ways to make her go to a new school that wouldn't have removed that aspect from the family. As for her being emotionless, there are ways to write a character with little or no emotions but the writers went the worst route possible.

The fact that Enid’s first wolf-out doesn’t get a full transformation sequence but the 4K RTX Gargantar from Plants Vs Zombies got a complete one was an… **interesting** decision.

ahhh, the Tim Burton effect!! having the aesthetic of being "different and quirky" and going against society's expectations and oppression but actually reinforcing the status quo

I will not accept Pugsley slander, I truly believe that with good writers you can make his character just as interesting as the rest of his family. I see him as kind of the underdog in the family and I just feel like there's something there.

That moment when you realize Goody Addams was Gomez's ancestor, not Morticia's, so why is premonition magic presented as a matrilineal power?

I really love how bad the lovestory was in this show. The incel guy screaming "you're sending mixed messages!" when Wednesday just needed a car was hilarious. BOTH Wednesday and Enid get TWO useless love interests, so you better not ship them! even though Enid is the ONLY person Wednesday shows any emotions towards.

My biggest problem with the show is how smug it feels with the monster, by episode 3 i figured out it was coffee boy but the show leaned in into Xavier so much it was really annoying.

The sheriff is the best character in the show. Complex family life, wants to solve a crime, follows Wednesday's leads even though he doesn't have to, APOLOGIZES TO GOMEZ AFTER THE TRUTH COMES OUT even though he's hated him for years, and is the only character whose flaws come from realistic trauma and not stupidity.

Jenna Ortega did a good job when she was acting as Wednesday but I hate Wednesday in the show because she's just the worst she puts down everyone says she's better than everyone and he's just all around the worst and can never not be a piece of crap to anyone and everyone she meets or knows

I HATED how they changed her character from creepy, but lovable to a fuckin pick me girl omg 😭😭 the not like other girls trope was strong in this one

My biggest issue with the show is that Wednesday always struck me as a low empathy autistic girl, and I loved her for it. She was super smart, everyone understood her, we saw that, despite her low empathy, she did in fact care about people in her own way. This show, however, completely destroyed that. In their hopes of writing “a strong female lead” they fumbled every good thing about her character and made her into a raging, unlikeable cow.

Wednesday is the definition of I’m not like other girls trope that I hate with a burning passion with my reasons. 1- it demonize femininity since it tells audience that anything feminine is shallow, dumb, and etc 2- When the original concept is that nobody should judge others based on their interest and apperence. The show does like to judge others that’s aren’t douche since they aren’t goth enough 3- Wednesday is what I hate in a protagonist who are just terrible people yet get what they want and is always in the right 4- I wish it was just a show about different people no matter their gender, race, fashion choice, and etc. with Wednesday befriending people even though she comes off distance

Tbh I felt the 1991 and 1994 were much darker then Wednesday ever got. Like 12 year old Wednesday literally burned a campground to the ground, ties a girl to a poll and attempts to burn her at the stake. Her smiling was not a good moment in the original it was unsettling to the point where she looked like she was in physical pain. The lack of Wednesday and Pugsly electrocuting, axing, shooting and just generally trying to kill each other was just upsetting. Another thing Gomez and Morticia need to touch each other more. Ik that sounds weird but that was their gig, them being abnormally overly affectionate. Tbh the love interests in Wednesday didn’t matter. Wednesday herself had the most chemistry with Enid.

the most unrealistic thing about this show is noone else wearing /wanting to wear all black.

I am agreeing with the crowd that the romance and family drama was so unnecessary and just weird to put in.

I was sad when they immediately opened the series with Wednesday arguing with her parents. The loving supportive family is immediately broken up for the sake of drama. Having some of the family pop up was neat though I don’t know how they would have gotten Pugsly into the school. Wednesday as a main character is a neat idea that everyone craves but is difficult to pull off in a believable way. I found it kind of grating halfway through the series that everyone just seemed to bend over backwards to like Wednesday. Who knows, maybe it’s just the constraints of a high school setting.

When I watched this show the first thing it came to mind was Monster High. A highschool full of monsters, calling humans "Normies". It just felt like a spin off. Another thing I didn't like was the treatment to Bianca. She was just minding her own bussiness. Never came to antogonize anybody. I mean, the first time Wednesday meet her, she was just in the fencing club, doing her thing, and Wednesday came with this edgelord actitude, being all snappy, and Bianca was like: " I don't know you, what is your problem?" Wednesday was a legit Mean-Girl.

The “outcast vs normie” conflict was…so poorly conceived and handled, and good god just let Wednesday be ace, aro, and/or sapphic. What even was that love triangle what was even the point -and if Wednesday had chemistry with anyone, it was her rival and roommate- Buuuut…not…surprised…it was so…bizarre, and not in the right way. Not with Tim Burton as the exec

It felt like an AO3 AU of Wednesday that could’ve worked imo a lot better as an original story with original characters.

I think that the show was originally written as an "antisocial teenager at a boarding school solves mystery" show, and then was quickly rewritten to be "Wednesday". That's why the fact that all the kids are supposed to be supernatural creatures barely affects the story or the characters, and why she suddenly thinks her father being a murderer is a bad thing.

The thing also is that Jenna Ortega said she didn't want most of the romantic scenes and wanted more to focus on the scary stuff, having to trim a lot of romance scenes from the script as she thought it wouldn't fit in to the show.

Jenna Ortega is genuinely the only thing keeping Wednesday somewhat likable in this show. Otherwise the character is just insufferable beyond belief... I SO agree Enid should have been the one left out! It makes sm more sense. Any 16 year old who likes the things she likes would be seen as different (I know because I was the same at her age), but on top of that she's literally in a school with exclusively people who prefer darker things 😭 Plus, Wednesday willingly befriending someone who's the opposite of her would be lovely and endearing. Instead Enid is the one putting all the effort in their friendship...it just makes me feel sorry for her :( On top of that, I really wish they'd made Enid a lesbian lol. I get she could still be bi but seems like they're not going that route. Between the sweater and the uncomfortable werewolf conversion therapy 'joke'...it would have made sense D:

Why did they had to age down Pugsley if I recall he was the oldest? Correct me if I am wrong. Because well he would’ve been the perfect one to play off of when Wednesday is solving mysteries and the two sibling could rely on their family as they learn about the school.

Is it just me or is there a pattern of shows using supernatural characters as allegories for marginalized identities, but using Black characters as the oppressors?

This hasnt premiered yet but yes, Wednesday as an adaptation really ruined a lot of established things... Sure it was cool, bur it was beyond mischaracterization for them to make one of the driving conflict be Wednesday against her family and or viewing herself as lesser and even viewing Morticia as the way she's portrayed in the show... Yeah i have too many unkind things to speak which I'm sure they will cover

it really saddens me how much the Addams family has adapted from the original concept. originally they were a family built with so much love and understanding. they were the perfect family who just so happened to enjoy macabre. that was the point. they looked scary but when you’d meet them you feel a sort of comfort. another thing I hate is how the Addams family see other people. in the Addams family values when Fester meets Debbie they’re nothing but supported. the family doesn’t care that Debbie is dressed in whites and light blue, that her hair is styled and blonde. but in the newer shows and movies they’re seen judging those who are “normal”.

I feel like this show should have been Wednesday AND Pugsley. Wednesday still could've been the leading character, but Pugsley should've been there as well. He could've been the muscle to her brains and possibly coming up with various traps to catch the killer.

The original series (from the 70s and stuff) wasn’t about magic just a really dark and happy family who love each other and are diffrent from modern family’s at the time such as how they actually love and sleep in the same bed

I loved the show But yeah it has its downs I also hated it that wednesday dislikes her mother, I really liked that they were a weird scary looking family who loved each other unconditionaly Edit: YOU KNOW WHAT It would have been awsome if she was written like Rosa from Brooklyn 99 Or similar to her

i blame burton for the problems, this series has all his hallmarks in its problems

It infuriates me how the show acts like Goody was Goody Addams' first name... Goody was a title! It was short for goodwife! Every Puritan woman was Goody Lastname!!!

Xaviers character just really annoyed me. He could have had so much potential but he felt so half-assed. When he was in jail because of Wednesday and went on that whole friends don't betray friends rant it just felt ridiculous and forced because him and Wednesday never were friends. I think it would have been so much better if he'd bothered Wednesday to let him help with the detective work because he geniunely cared about the dead guy that was his roommate and friend rather than to what get in to her pants because he's apareantly met her briefly 10 years ago. That was just so stupid. He can still be off putting and add to the mystery factor while still having a genuine motivation to help with the investigation. I'd argue it would even add some spice to the mystery if despite her distrusting Xavier at the beginning him and her formed some level of trust during the investigation only for Wednesday to slowly find reasons it could be Xavier. It would slowly sow doubt and mistrust and there'd be actual moral conflict and Xavier ending up in jail because of Wednesday would actually work as a betrayal. Also he should've given her an old phone of his (or even better found a way to send letters) to stay in contact with her because they're still detective partners as a way to show her that he forgave her. It would've been more genuine than when he bought her a brand new phone because despite literally only ever getting rejections and thrown in jail he still isn't over his weird childhood crush. It just felt stupid honestly. But yeah that's just my personal opinion.

I found the storylines and subplots were both underdeveloped and weaved together too fast. Season one should have focused on the mystery involving Gomez, and the next season should have focused on the Goody and the destruction of the school. There were too many subplots that led to nowhere and characters that weren't utilized to their highest potential.

I agree. This show is terrible. It has nothing to do with the Addams Family. It's a Monster High Clone. I dislike how they made Wednesday resent Morticia. Its so out of character. The whole point of the Addams Family is that despite being creepy they always get along. I know its a different version but that is the one thing you don't change or its not the Addams Family anymore. I also hate how Wednesday went from deadpan like she was in the 90's version to straight-up rude. There is a difference. I had trouble getting through the first 2 episodes.

it's like my favourite artist will wood said "Wednesday is not only the greatest betrayal in television history but the most maddeningly trite, disturbingly vapid, and internally confused ideological train wreck I've ever had the deeply sorrowful displeasure of allowing to pass through my corneas"

I think with the mother/daughter has been something underlining since the animated Addams Family: Wednesday has reached the stereotypical teen girl era who sees her mother has someone trying to shape her into a different version, and Wednesday doesn't like it. We the audience know that Mortica wants Wednesday to be the best version of herself, but Wednesday might see that as a different intention (she even thinks Thing is there solely for the fact to spy and keep taps on her). It's definitely an odd underlining plot line for an Addams movie/show considering they're the imperfect perfect family

I honestly feel like the sirens character could’ve been SO much more interesting, overall this show could’ve still been the “modern” Addams family they wanted without all the “I’m not like other girls, I’m goth and hate my parents” story that just doesn’t fit Wednesday at all

One thing that definitely amused me about Wednesday was how hard Wednesday went with her theories no matter how little evidence she had. Once she was suspicious of someone, she would have extremely little subtlety or attempt at further investigation, she would literally just go up to them and start accusing them of stuff. Across the series she accuses several people of murder to their face and half the time she's wrong.

I definitely lost interest in the show super fast. Truthfully the only reason to watch it is to enjoy all the actors because they are all very quirky and I think suit their roles well but the writers are terrible

The love triangle in this show was a mess, Wednesday had no chemistry with either of those boys

I have so many problems with this show. My main point is that the creators just don't understand Wedsday as a character nor the Addams familys values. - she should have been happy to hear that someone died - the Addams family is WEIRD and mystical, not outright MAGICAL. And it was special because they all are like that and they are the only ones like that. no other magical beings - WHERE IS HER BABY BROTHER - what happened to Morticias character??? - the love triangle makes zero sense. also coffee shop guy had no idea who she was when they first met so that whole thing makes no sense so in my headcannon he actually liked her. The original wednesday would love to be in a relationship with a murdering monster who cares for her. - still love triangle: the long haired guy has zero synergy with Wednesday, I hate him and the actor who played him who allegedly SAed and helped SA and rape multiple high school girls with his friends.

i thought wednesday was a good show, but a bad Addams family adaptation. It missed the point of the family but i thought the mystery was ok. i hated the love triangle until it ended with coffee boy having been trying to manipulate her, and while enid herself was boring and one-note, i thought her relationship with wednesday was sweet. their hug was very cute.

Im glad im not alone in my “Mehhh” for the Wednesday series. I heard the Actor for Wednesday change or improvised some scene or lines because Originally there was A lot of out-of-character Moments Written for Wednesday. If this is changed then originally must have been even messier.

I actually think the concept of not fitting in with people who you only share a label with is a really good concept and supports free thinking. It’s like expecting gay people to like any other gay person just because they’re gay. Also, I think it’s a stretch to consider Wednesday an incel. Certain lines are cringe and something she’d never say, true, but for the most part, the people who she “hurts” only feel that way because they expect her to act in a neurotypical way. Not to suggest neurodivergent people are always in the right, but events like Enid getting mad at Wednesday for endangering her life (even though she chooses to follow her knowing what she’s doing) is just painful to watch, since people do in fact act that way. I personally find saying random niceties to strangers and the thought of expecting people you just met to accept you from the get go as unnecessary and perplexing concepts. You just set yourself up for failure expecting the unexpectable. All in all, the show has a weak storyline and plot, only remedied by Jenna Ortega’s portrayal of Wednesday and the amazing OST of the show.

For me, like you said, the school for outcasts didn't "behave" like the "outcasts". Those students still make the Addams looks like outcasts and Wednesday should have blended in. It would be an interesting dynamic to see how character who enjoyed being unique behaved when they put in the environment where they were the norm. That could be a good plot but I doubt the writers wants to write things that original. Also, the principle seems "weak" in the way that make me questions how did she handled the students with special abilities. And I do dislike the romance subplot that seems to be there because it is a must for American TV show. In many ways, Adult Wednesday Addams by Melissa Hunter did a much better job of staying true to her characters more than this high budget Netflix series.

I'm genuinely interested in what they have to say because as of right now I've only heard great things from people I trust so sing a different opinion will be very interesting I personally have only seen the first couple episodes but I loved it when I have time I'm going to watch more but not every show is for every person so this will be interesting to see their take on it

i remember reading a headline saying that Jenna Ortega hated the romance in 'Wednesday,' because it didn't fit the character at all. Honestly, i agree with that. The romance was really unnecessary. As well, they tried a bit too hard with the "Riverdale seemed to be popular, so let's try that method here" thing. Too much being tried all at the same time. I still love Wednesday though. Addams Family forever 🖤🖤🖤

I had a lot of issues but one was how she managed to carry the addams name after all that time when goody was (as far as we know) identifying a girl so that would mean her name would most likley go to her spouse so theres almost no way to keep that name ESPECIALLY after all that time so either theres some inbreeding or the writers were lazy as hell, its just something that really bugs me everything I see it.

Love to see a show where a character with a thematic parallel to being disabled (werewolf who can't transform) ends their arc by just doing the thing they couldn't do before. Very cool.

We ignore the fact that before Wednesday has her "visions" she technically was a normal kid, just a bit kooky and gothic, she literally isn't weird at all except for being allergic to colour, which means she never would've been admitted to nevermore as technically she is a "normie".

The Principal was revealed as a shapeshifter much earlier on in the series. She was the one who became the telekinetic kid and made it seem like he was alive and leaving the school. Right after the scene you showed where 'he' goes into the toilet stall and comes out as an older guy, we see that older guy then become the Principal.

My issues with the show were many. The family was always shown to be close-knit, and Wednesday always wanted to be like her mother. The fun of the show and movies were the odd family contrasting with the "normal" people who lived rigid lives while the Addams were free. The contrast between the two worlds is where the fun came from. Wednesday, anti-social spends the entire movie being anti-social and hateful, somehow ended up in a love triangle with people also shipping her with rainbow werewolf. She should have been portrayed as ace. Christina Ricci should not have been the villain. It was too obvious she was going to be cause she was OG best Wednesday. Jenna Ortega was a good Wednesday; the entire rest of the family did not feel like the Addams. Why was Wednesday who started the entire show attempting to murder someone so upset and shocked about her father possibly murdering someone? The show was all over the place, the motivations of the characters were all over the place, and so much didn't make any sense.

I remember an interview or one of those celebrity clips where even Jenna wasn't into the love triangle thing with Wednesday, Xavier, and Tyler as she saw Wednesday as someone who wouldn't pay much attention to romance.

Uuuh I'm exited for this! Personally I really liked the show - except for morticia. But I assumed she's dislikable bc we see it kind of from wednesday's pov and they're not seeing eye to eye atm. Otherwise I like that they did something totally different than addams family while still keeping so many loving details (the snapping twice, the roses..). But it is totally a teeny high school series now, with dumb teeny romances and everything. Which I personally enjoy, but it's definitely not for everyone.

I have 4 big issues with the show. One of them was brought up in the video, that there's too much focus on the family drama. Part of the appeal of the Addams family is how much they love each other. Even now, ESPECIALLY, we rarely get TEEN stories where the characters get along with their parents if they are in the story, to begin with, or conscious of anything their kid is doing. It would've been so refreshing to see a loving daughter and mother relationship. The other is that the love interests suck. Xavier could explode and I wouldn't care, and I completely forgot about Tyler until the twist. And Enid...For frick's sake, I'm sorry other queer viewers of the show, but I can't get behind it. I personally would rather live in a reality where Wednesday is gonna have NO LOVE INTEREST WHAT SO EVER, but if she must have one, I don't want them to be some normie who gets a little hairy sometimes. Wednesday is one of the few characters I wouldn't care to see put in an opposites scenario because part of the appeals of her and the other Addams is how strange they are! If Wednesday is going to have a love interest, they have to be a worthy Addams! a demon, a murderer, a shaman, something spooky, and if they do present "normally," gosh darn it, they better be a Debbie! Part of the reason why Wednesday feels so dislikable is that she barely faces consequences for her actions, and then we she does, people turn back on her, like Enid. Why? Let her be alone. People actively trying to stop her purely because they hate her could've been a conflict all on its own. I wish they could've made it more camp, so that her actions don't have to be taken as seriously or that her actions were done in such a way that they didn't cause direct physical harm to people, and they could've done that! She goes to school with werewolves and crap, they should be able to go through more than the average person. Lastly, the general concept of her going to a school of outcasts is just uninteresting. The Addams characters are alluring because they're abnormal in a normal, inoffensive society. So her coming and being outcasted felt off. If they had to go that route, it'd actually be more interesting if she were different because she was TOO NORMAL and had a great relationship with her family. That would've been more interesting and would've provided some genuine commentary on infighting in minority groups. As it stands now, it's a bad idea that was explored almost shallowly. All that being said, I still enjoyed it. I loved Jeena Ortega, the aesthetic is on point, and when season 2 comes around, I'll watch it.

I think Jenna Ortega did a good job trying to fight to make Wednesday the character the character we know and love but also a new take. I think i remember someone saying that she talked to Christina Ricci about her portrayal of Wednesday from the movies but not sure if true. But its quite clear the writing was truly doing her dirty along with the rest of the Addams Family. And GIVE ME THE ARO/ACE/QUEER WEDNESDAY WE KNOW SHE PROBABLY IS DAMMIT. Her and Enid hooking up is the only couple i see genuine chemistry for and love. ETA: the ONLY good chemistry scene between Tyler and Wednesday (gag) is when he set up a "movie date" for her and said it was a "horror" movie. When it was actually Legally Blonde (awesome movie btw). It was cute that he knew she would be horrified by all the pink and whatnot but also maybe the whole "going against stereotype" message in the movie would be something she'd be interested in.

Okay, but like I still need to know. Why are her powers from her mother but the person who is her guide is Goodie ADAMS

The biggest problem with this show is that they forgot to keep the key features of this family that made the odd. The lack of Pugsly and Wednesday trying to kill each other was unsettling

The whole subplot of Gomez being accused of murder made NO sense. In the Barry Sonnenfield movies, it was already implied that Gomez was a murderer (acquitted) and it was a running joke!

Wednesday is the definition of "not like other girls". Trying to be obnoxiously unique

What I find funny is that Wednesday is supposed to love things like death and tragedy and yet she goes out of her way to do the complete opposite and avoid all of that from happening.

I think the biggest and most simplest sign that the writing for this show was not all that good and pretty basic at times is the scene in which they specifically have the doctor guy say he’s going to retire in a few days before he dies which the audience immediately knows mean that people will think it was a suicide with someone saying something along the lines of “But he wouldn’t do this, he was going to retire in a few days” and then literally has the sheriff outright state it. Like, I wouldn’t be mad if they still did the cliche but this is essentially just as if someone wrote a footnote of “Retire in three days, put more description” and then forgot about it resulting in nothing being done.

Best thing that came from Wednesday was when Will Wood wrote a huge ass community post with no punctuation about how much he loathed Wednesday

What bothered me most was when she still accused Xavier even after the DNA test on the claw and Xavier's bloody cloth proved that Xavier wasn't the monster but she just ignored that.

I tried watching the first 3 episodes, but I couldn’t stay engaged. Wednesday as a character felt so mean and unlivable inside of mysterious and an outcast. Although I’m not really into gothic stuff so that’s probably why it wasn’t interesting for me.

I dislike how they made Wednesday into a murder mystery heroine, it doesn’t feel very true to her character. Sure making her interested in that sort of thing would be a fine character trait, but falls flat completely as a main story plot line. Personally I would’ve loved to have seen her go through different class subjects, yknow, actually related to a school setting, and how she interacts with that. Would make more sense for her to excel in engineering, but only in death traps and torture devices lol. The monster school aspect is especially disappointing as they do nothing interesting with it. Would’ve been more to do with a ‘normie’ (hate that btw) high school setting, albeit contrived.

they had to hospitalize bee boy for most of the show because they know he would dominate the show if they didn't. also the only antagonist not shown in any sympathetic light being the black girl was not great

4:10 YES THANK YOU, EXACTLY I felt so weird about this show, cause I REALLY tried to enjoy after hearing how amazing it is but I just couldn’t. It was annoying me most of the time. It was okay at best to me, so hearing all the praises around was a weird feeling. It felt like I just couldn’t see what other see, tbh.

The Addams family is really supposed to be the “crazy” family that loves eachother at the end to the point of torture sometimes 😭

I enjoyed Wednesday, other than the romance stuff which they've promised to eliminate from season 2. I'd be very into q narrative that starts away from the Addams family as we know it and grows into a stronger family bond and learning to find friends and junk. But you generally have pretty good takes, so I'm eager to hear why you'd dislike it so much and if it bpils down to the pointless romcom stuff.

The problem with many stories lately is that they have good concepts but do not follow up on them..!

I fully think Wednesday was a monster high script that go passed over so they just attached Addams family to it instead and just tried their best to make it make sense

personally, if i could change the way the story is written, i think i would make Enid the protagonist with Wednesday being a deuteragonist. it makes sense because in a school of gloomy weirdos, Enid is the only one who's bright and spunky, and you can do a ton with her character type. meanwhile, Wednesday can retain her usual gothic chic murderous vibe without making it too obnoxious because you don't always see her. now, this is still a Wednesday show. however, think of Hannibal, where the show is about Will Graham but also a lot about Hannibal Lecter. Wednesday could make a very intriguing potential killer to a murder mystery, which Wednesday could entertain as and flirt with. Enid may even think Wednesday could be the actual killer and becomes Wednesday's foil. eventually befriending her, and together they find out the REAL killer. idk. Wednesday the show has so much potential and they kinda wasted it away. on a more conspiratorial note, i feel like the plot and setting of Wednesday was made for an original series, but was scrapped and reworked as an adaptation once Netflix/Tim Burton got the rights to the franchise.

This show completely missed what the Addams family is about.

To me the most convincing crush Wednesday might have is on Eugene, the most emotion and feelings she showed was when he was involved and hes the most similar to the other guy the character was shown to like in addams family values, other then that the show annoyed me with its murder is great/how could you kill someone whiplash

I saw someone on tiktok saying Wednesday was like them as an aro ace lesbian tricking herself into thinking she likes a boy just because she knows that he likes her. And I think that's exactly why the romance felt so uncomfortable. I've been there before too, where I got in a relationship cause he liked me so much. Idk it makes me feel better about the uneasy awkward feelings I had while watching to think about it like that. And I think Wednesday could definitely be an aro ace lesbian if the showmakers weren't so concerned with having all the beats of a typical highschool drama which I guess has to involve falling in love.

Guys haven’t you noticed Wednesday is actually Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way??

The whole show is, as most netflix originals, there to appeal to aesthetics. That's why there's such a visual focus on colour and lack there of. It's eye candy, tasty and pretty, but empty in substance. I strongly believe that this is Tim's response to ppl calling him racist for not casting anyone darker than a sheet of paper. The drama behind the scenes sounds fabricated to sell the story/hype up the project through negative coverage. Everything about the show feels manicured for the new age... I find it depressing considering the Adams Family origins

Some of my gripes with the show was mainly the love triangle cuz that shit baffled even me as much as it did Wednesday herself, fr got a ginger ass mf coming over here to gaslight her into thinking they had an unspoken thing. Like wut? 👀 Unspoken? More like unseen, no sparks.

Wednesday sucks for me because… I can’t follow Wednesday Addams. She doesn’t feel like a character you’d see in a main role, which is why she’s great in the Addams movies, because she’s kind of one note. Also it reminded me of Riverdale, and you don’t want to remind me of Riverdale.

The literal idea of Wednesday wanting to stop a mass genocide at her school is low key kind of laughable when you stop to realize that she's an Addams. Death and destruction are literally they're whole thing, she shouldn't be trying solve a mystery to save Nevermore she should be trying to solve it to find this evil guy and take notes but soon realizes that she actually does care about the people at Nevermore and sees it's truly worth fighting for. The Gomez episode was stupid too like Wednesday would be ecstatic to know her dad committed 1st degree but disappointed in finding out that's not what really happened. The love triangle thing was so awfully boring too like Enid is right there. I seriously will never understand why and how this show got as popular as it did I thought it was okay but never expected it to gain this kind of traction. Jenna Ortega and the rest did great given the material they had to work with so I give em respect but Wednesday is not Wednesday I'm sorry.

31:45 When Wednesday and Enith huged, shouldn't Wednesday have an alergic reaction to her pink coat? Since she's allergic to colour? When they first mention that Wednesday is allergic to colour, I thought that was a joke, but no; She apperantly actually IS realy allergic to color! (But wait... Shouldn't that mean that she shouldn't be wearing black, since it absorbes colour but instead should be wearing all white, since it reflects all colour?)

Honestly, first few episodes had so much potential. The atmosphere was so neat. But then I lost interest in the plot so much I forgot about the show until today. I've always wondered what happened in the end after I dropped it and I'm glad I got to find out through this video instead of having to rewatch it.

I feel like a big problem with the most modern iterations of the Addams family is that the Addamses are depicted as *hating* the *mainstream* instead of taking *joy* in the macabre. And those are two different things. Additionally, a problem I've seen in a LOT of "reboot" media is that... the movies just have nothing to do with the characters they're using. Rewriting it with original characters would change nothing, and without that brand recognition, it would just be mediocre as hell. (Wednesday, Scoob!, Powerpuff Girls, etc) And I don't think this is the writer's fault--I know that people WANT to make original stories, but studios only pay for nostalgia bait, so you end up with writers trying to do both. The writers try writing their own story that would stand on its own, but forcing said stories on already established characters creates huge inconsistencies in character, lore, vibes, etc. that fans consistently LOATHE. For a lot of these shows, there's a general aura of the writers misunderstanding the source material and/or why fans liked it--almost like the creators weren't super into The Addams Family to begin with.

The "He dropped loot! Sweet!" made me laugh more than it should

Something weird to me is that Wednesday was a sweet, happy child who just happened to love violence and dark things, up until the movies popularized this sarcastic 'edgy' version of her. It's okay, but it lost all its novelty after they made it her only defining trait, which they'd kind of leaned into in the animated films but here it's like her only consistent personality trait.

The whole point of the Addams family was that they loved each other and had healthy communication. Every recent adaptation ENTIRELY messes it up. The musical, the animated movies, Wednesday, etc. The live action movies were amazing! The show could have been great but it definitely failed. Personally I think they could have made it better by: 1. Because being goth is a lot less "weird" than it use to be so its odd to have her be in an outcast school and be considered weird for having a darker aesthetic. 2. If they made her actually likable and kind. Wednesday has always been kind but rude when provoked.

It physically hurts that they named Wednesday's ancestor "Goody" when that was just pilgrim for "Mrs"

I feel like if you are going to give Wednesday a heterosexual love interest, Eugene was the best pick by miles. Eugene was my favorite character on this show. TEAM EUGENE!!!

there's a lot of stuff i really hated about this show. the dialogue sucked most of the time and the story was mid at best. but the thing i hate the most is that they named Wednesday's ancestor "Goody Addams." like Goody wasn't a name, it was more of a title usually used in the way we use Mrs./Ms. now. anyone who had to read The Crucible in school would know this.

I love the Addams family. I love Wednesday too, they sort of exist in different dimensions in my mind. I know it was far from perfect, but it was still a fun watch (and as a cellist, I appreciated the music). Though if you hated it, that’s valid too.

Personally I think that it is quite funny and sad that the animated movies did retain the original essence of the comics (for better or worse) while the new Netflix version seems to me more like an original story coming from Tim Burton that had the IP slapped on like a rare rebadge work. The one thing that I didn't like too much is definitively is the cast, it is good for a Burton project, but as a part of the IP it really looks a little bit messy. Also, I think that there could have been more comical things in the show, something more close to Beetlejuice than to Edward Scissorhands.