its beyond lifting its politics sad for athletes like ilya and gabriel who were used by politicians

@@scottessery100 Yeah but you know what... let's atleast remember they even had a chance to get into the Olympics and use steroids (as they should), us Americans are tested so heavy we can't even do that!

@@TheArtofBoxing101 all countries can do it bro don't worry about that XD

Yeah it would be terrible if his career was potentially hurt! Fortunately nothing like that happened.

We need a re-run of Kazakh singlets!

@@WeightliftingHouse Unfortunately, this will not happen soon. WADA and KazNADC "did a good job". To rebuild the system of rehabilitation is not so simple. Pharmacology in Kazakhstan is not very developed, and steroids are banned. Many promising athletes are suspended for using steroids. Some left on their own as funding was cut.

Weightlifting House maybe its time to write to Klokov/winner?

it's a little different with bodybuilders because most of them are dependent on their supplement sponsorships and they are not allowed to talk about roids

Bodybuilding is not a sport, it's a beauty contest. Did you mean powerlifting?

@Лука Перковић it is not a sport brother because it does not include any performance.

Agreed. Drugs just have this big taboo, while it serves the same purpose as physio, massages, etc. Drugs dont always give you superhuman strength for a while; they let you recover faster so you can train more, build muscle faster so you can train more, etc

Mine too!!! Juice boy is back!!!

forever a cheater

@@olli77hajnal Lol they are all juicing. Ilya is the best ever!

@@n3phalem754 he got caught, many others too - you have to draw the line somewhere. Glorifying cheaters makes doping acceptable, it shouldn't be like that. Not EVERYONE is cheating, most European athletes are clean.

"most european athletes are clean" LOL

I know I felt that when he said my life is broken. He was literally moulded into a weightlifting beast from young

that's what happens when you get caught... but hope he improves drastically bc he isnt even close to being competitive now..

@@IamLEGENDkb24 believe he’s announced that he’s retired. Not sure if he would have been sent, but I don’t think he wanted to go if he wasn’t there to win. It was difficult to see him struggle with 200. A man that’s done 240+ many many times, it was just difficult

The story of Angel Genchev is similar. He got stripped of his gold medal in Seoul 1988 due to politics. Also Ivan Abadjiev got banned as a coach. Bulgarians had conquered the gold medals in, I think, all of the categories they participated in. In the movie Salto Mortale, Genchev speaks about the dirty politics behind the scene and the hurt it caused him. He is the heaviest man on earth to lift 3x his bodyweight. 67.5kg cnj 202.5kg

Do you have a link to this video?id love to watch

Just watched this and glad someone else said this

Ok, pencil neck, typing paragraphs about weightlifting online but don’t even lift. Anyways, there’s a translator sitting right next to him. If Ilya wanted help, he would ask. It’s Ilya’s interview, if he wants to do his own translating then deal with it

@@leocoyne-xk8gq*typed, typed this.

Honestly I wonder if he misunderstood the question perhaps? Cause it sounds absolutely insane lol.

@@yetanotherRjven surely he meant clean pull

It's likely that he hasn't done a basic deadlift since they were building his base at, like 12-13 years old. As Ilya said, they don't even back squat all that much, so I don't believe he'd have much reason to train for max deadlift, let alone do a max deadlift.

@@jacob_7567 there's video of it. He cleaned 250, couldn't jerk it. But he managed the jerk from the blocks, i think

no; trained with him. He doesn't deadlift because he's had a lower back injury.

It's well known that in the world elite and Olympic weightlifting all participants to a greater or lesser extent use anabolics. The difference they banned some of them and not others is found in politics. Whoever believes that legends like Naim, Pierros and many others achieved their records and legacy without PED's help is delusional and having no idea about this sport.

@@Llanos191 What of the legends from my time ? Ike Berger, Tommy Kono, Tony Garcy, Gubner (2 strength sports) from the US. Others from Europe and ASIA - Vlasov, Miyake, etc. Couldn't compete with the numbers these fellows put up today , but I surely believe they were "natural" for the most part. They were still way stronger and more athletic that the man in the street and were to be admired for their strength and skill. .

It's not only a Weightlifting problem, if they do ban all doping athletes in the Olympic games there sure will be no athletes in almost all Olympic sports. Ilya is right in that, "if you catch me, catch the other guy". The winner ends being who can avoid getting caught, not the strongest man.

@@howard264 Tony Garcy admitted to Dianabol use, Kono more or less denied it, others I don't really know about. Yuri Vlasov almost definitely, being in the Soviet system. Before 1976 anabolics weren't even banned or tested for, so there wasn't a reason to not take them unless you were scared personally of them.

Lasha was already popped. For some reason at the time he only received a minor ban. He came back stronger than ever

Gets banned and comes back stronger than ever lmfao

Money talks!!

can you blame an athlete for lying? they are losing everything, what do they have to gain by telling the truth and severing any hope that they might get an appeal or lowered punishment. because they know all their competition are using too, if they are at the highest level

There are way too many negative impacts if it is just haphazardly allowed. Still for debate.

Are you squatting for weightlifting? If it's so, you have to make effort to have your torso upright. Leaning too much forward can make your lower back rounding. You mention that your back rounds during heavy squats, it's a sign that your quads are not strong enough to handle the weight so you compensate by leaning forward- that way, you utilized your back and hamstrings more. Squat down, don't squat back. Do more front squats in the mean of time to really get the feel of being upright in the bottom position (also less back exercises). As for stretching, do spiderman lunge stretch, "russian baby maker", and towel hamstring stretch I had the same issue, especially for my bodytype- short torso and long legs. I tended to lean forward. I used to put my body-barbell weight centered on mid foot. I changed it to center more on the heels while squatting down, my squats becoming so much more upright and no more lower back rounding.

1 in case of "buttwink": don't squat deeper than your mobility allows for. if you want to squat very deep your knees have to go far enough forward and outward to allow you that kind of depth 2 in case of rounding over: don't turn it into a good morning, stay in your quads, if your back folds over on the way up, reduce weight to a point where you can keep your desired back angle. if that takes additional quad work like front squats do those aswell I don't have that problem I am not a very leggy guy I'm 6'3(191cm) but with short legs and arms, it's easy for me to stay upright. But I have a worse position for pulls because of my shorter(relative to torso) limbs ^WHat the guy above me said is pretty good

pointless. then they will just push the limits WHICH drugs they can use and how much. The whole thing will essentially not change

@@Goriaas That's like saying all McDonalds employees should not be sick when coming to work. One way or the other its gonna happen and their aint a dam thing can be done about it. Manager is short staffed and dont give a dam cuz they need to look good to the boss by making a speedy service, they turn their head when your looking a little pale. Uh oh, rules are now broken, welcome to the sports world.

this is the paradox, will always be necessary to be #1 and will never be fully tested against and caught guilty in 100% of the pool

He got caught in a game much bigger than him, you clearly can't understand what it means finding out you have the potential to win an Olympic Gold when you are a teenager with dreams.

Considering him and his whole team/competitors were also taking drugs and it’s just the norm at that level. He got popped due to a political situation. Like he said, they blame just the athletes, the problem is much deeper. If you know what I mean

A B thanks for this incredibly well thought-out and concisely articulated comment. It really added to this video’s discussion.

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